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greatest2
12-27-2006, 04:05 PM
Free agents i find interesting, and worth looking at.

Deon Grant FS, maybe a good fit next to taylor. only 27.

napoleon harris MLB, we do need a mike linebacker. Only 27. hasn't had a great year, but is rangy, and since the vikes re-sgned henderson, he might be available.

Omar Stoutmire Safety, played here before. can plug the hole til a young guy picks it up.

Phillip Buchanon CB, not as great as people thought he would be. Could be a solid number 3 here?

Nate Clements CB, we all know about him

Asante Samuel CB, i think we either sign him OR clements. Guy is only 25, and has developed his coverage skills, and can continue to develop. has gotten beat a couple times, but has also made his fair share of plays.

Jared Allen DE, he is a Restricted free agent so it will take some money to get him. he is only 24, has 8 sacks and 70plus tackles, on KC's defense nuff said

Justin Smith DE, 70 plus tackles, 7 sacks on Cinci defense. 27 years old as well.

Bryan Thomas DE, 70 plus tackles, 8.5 sacks on jets defense, also 27

Fred Smoot CB, ok so he isn't a free agent, but it looks like it is a serious possibility, especially with that rookie taking his place in the starting line-up and him just suffering from a broken jaw. he can be a number 3 guy, and he knows the system pretty well. i think he would want to come here, be like a coming home, and i know as a fan at the stadium, i would welcome him home with open arms and smooooooooooooooooooooooooooot cry's:lol1:

I just looked at defense, and at positions of need, Safety/corner/ mike linebacker. i think washington is still good at outside linebacker as well as Rocky, but lemar can't hold up in the middle. We need a number 1 corner, and a number 3 or 4 corner. At safety we need someone as well. the key with safety is how is reed dougherty coming along, maybe he can pick it up there so we don't have to spend big money, and we can just plug the whole. these are just some of the few i found interesting, what do you guys think? who do we make a run at? who will be here? who do you want here? what kinda salary you think they get? how will this impact the draft?

akhhorus
12-27-2006, 04:16 PM
Free agents i find interesting, and worth looking at.

Deon Grant FS, maybe a good fit next to taylor. only 27.

another slow safety, pass.

napoleon harris MLB, we do need a mike linebacker. Only 27. hasn't had a great year, but is rangy, and since the vikes re-sgned henderson, he might be available.

Doesn't do a whole lot for me. He's supposed to be cut and that doesn't say much about him.

Omar Stoutmire Safety, played here before. can plug the hole til a young guy picks it up.

Pass. he's a depth guy, but nothing special. He's another slower safety.

Phillip Buchanon CB, not as great as people thought he would be. Could be a solid number 3 here?

He's a returner, nothing more. Kenny Wright laughs at his coverage abilities.

Nate Clements CB, we all know about him

I would make a major run at him. Durable, knows the Williams system and is a top CB in the NFL. Expect competition for him.

Asante Samuel CB, i think we either sign him OR clements. Guy is only 25, and has developed his coverage skills, and can continue to develop. has gotten beat a couple times, but has also made his fair share of plays.

I like Samuel, BUT I am wary of him. He's only decided to take the next step into being a very good player in his contract year.

Jared Allen DE, he is a Restricted free agent so it will take some money to get him. he is only 24, has 8 sacks and 70plus tackles, on KC's defense nuff said

Major league headcase and the Chiefs aren't letting him go for anything less than a 1st.

Justin Smith DE, 70 plus tackles, 7 sacks on Cinci defense. 27 years old as well.

I wouldn't mind him, but I wouldn't pay him a whole lot either.

Bryan Thomas DE, 70 plus tackles, 8.5 sacks on jets defense, also 27

Already resigned with the Jets

Fred Smoot CB, ok so he isn't a free agent, but it looks like it is a serious possibility, especially with that rookie taking his place in the starting line-up and him just suffering from a broken jaw. he can be a number 3 guy, and he knows the system pretty well. i think he would want to come here, be like a coming home, and i know as a fan at the stadium, i would welcome him home with open arms and smooooooooooooooooooooooooooot cry's:lol1:

Pass for anything except a cheap incentive laden deal. Smoot has totally fallen apart and needs to prove he can regain his old form before I would give him anything more than a few million.

I just looked at defense, and at positions of need, Safety/corner/ mike linebacker. i think washington is still good at outside linebacker as well as Rocky, but lemar can't hold up in the middle. We need a number 1 corner, and a number 3 or 4 corner. At safety we need someone as well. the key with safety is how is reed dougherty coming along, maybe he can pick it up there so we don't have to spend big money, and we can just plug the whole. these are just some of the few i found interesting, what do you guys think? who do we make a run at? who will be here? who do you want here? what kinda salary you think they get? how will this impact the draft?

We need a MLB, a CB and a cover safety who can get Taylor lined up. The CB won't be cheap, the MLB might be in the draft and a cover safety who can do that isn't named Doughty. Jay Bellamy might be worth a look in free agency, but for MLB I have a radical idea: sign Michael Lewis and have him play there. He's been moved from SS to OLB/ILB for the Eagles and he could be intriguing there for us.

greatest2
12-27-2006, 04:21 PM
michael lewis, really? you don't think he is to small to play Mike on all three downs. he would be great in coverage for mike, but on run downs??? i don't think that would work, but maybe:rolleyes:

skinfan43
12-27-2006, 04:21 PM
Here's who I'd like to see us take a serious look at, and I'll leave the $$ numbers up to our cap guru, Eric Shaffer;):

MLB - Fletcher. (or Adalius Thomas, perhaps?)
Safety - not sure, but Springs might be moved there, we are getting Prioleau back (HUGE, imo), and have Vincent or Arch/Doughty/Fox for depth if all of this happens, plus save cap room if Springs restructures (which he'd obviously have to for this scenario to occur, which I think it can and will, especially since nobody will probably offer Springs what we could give him in a restructured deal, he's older and definitely damaged goods but still plays very well when healthy.)
Corner - I like Clements, but Samuel would be good too. Need better nickle options than Jenny Wrong and Ahdontknowhowtoplaycorner Jimoh, plus draft one.
Defensive End - Justin Smith plus draft one.
How about D-Tackle? Golston has played well for a sixth-rounder, but I'd LOVE another playmaker like Griffin there next season, let Golston and Montgomery develop fo another year. Sadly, Big Joe looks useless anymore. Anyone know who's available at DT?

akhhorus
12-27-2006, 04:24 PM
michael lewis, really? you don't think he is to small to play Mike on all three downs. he would be great in coverage for mike, but on run downs??? i don't think that would work, but maybe:rolleyes:

He's 1 inch and 10 lbs lighter than Marshall. He could bulk up a bit and still be effective. I would take him off the field on passing downs, but if the DTs can clog the middle, he could be fine at MLB.

greatest2
12-27-2006, 04:27 PM
but marshall to begin with is undersized and that causes him problems, he gets beat up alot for that size, and our DTs aren't great at keeping guys of the linebackers. also i don't know many teams that take there Mike out on 3rd downs or passing plays?? so yea, like you said it would be a radical idea, and it could make GW a geniius or idiot, depending how it would work out.

DT's cost alot of money, and we have more glaring holes to fill currently, and not to mention any cap hit we take from whoever we cut (arch maybe, or not) who knows

skinfan43
12-27-2006, 04:28 PM
...for MLB I have a radical idea: sign Michael Lewis and have him play there. He's been moved from SS to OLB/ILB for the Eagles and he could be intriguing there for us.
Ok, but (for the same kind of Safety-position-swap the Eagles did) why not just play Rocky at MLB and get our money's worth out of Archuleta at WLB? Arch would play closer to the line and he tackles exceptionally well.

greatest2
12-27-2006, 04:30 PM
Ok, but (for the same knid of Safety-position-swap the Eagles did) why not just play Rocky at MLB and get our money's worth out of Archuleta at WLB? Arch would play closer to the line and he tackles exceptionally well.

thats a good idea. how big is rocky? can he handle the punishment? is he smart enough? he has had a year under this defense. Arch. will he play with passion and a chip on his shoulder? is he big enough to play at that WLB without getting taken to the cleaners like good old HOldman..

both you guys ideas are very interesting, and i hope they would work out if GW tried them. he could be a genius if it did. and the idiot of washington if it didn't

Redskin4Life
12-27-2006, 04:31 PM
If Reed is coming along, I don't think we'll go after a safety. We'll probably make due with the guys already on the team and cut Arch this year or next.

Clements and Smoot are my picks for FA.

DE and Oline help in the draft.

If we don't cut Arch and GW changes systems, I can see us using a 2 LB system with Arch as a rover (LB/S) in the middle. Corners on the edges (Rogers, Clements, Smoot) and two safeties (Springs, PP and Taylor) middle deep. On three WR sets, Taylor plays centerfield and Springs/PP move up as CBs. TEs would be covered by OLB.

Arch would be a safety playing closer to the line, what he's suited to doing. You'll have Springs/Prileaux, Rogers and Clements on the field at the same time. Taylor would only be responsible for half of the field when he's not blitzing. OLBs could blitz while rover would rotate into either's zone duties or blitz. Middle's covered with two safeties playing the field deep and one playing the middle. Speed kills in this format. Only issue would be run stopping up the middle.... but on obvious run situs Taylor could cheat to the line while Springs/Prileaux would play the "field".

Then we wouldn't need a MLB per se.

akhhorus
12-27-2006, 04:35 PM
but marshall to begin with is undersized and that causes him problems, he gets beat up alot for that size, and our DTs aren't great at keeping guys of the linebackers. also i don't know many teams that take there Mike out on 3rd downs or passing plays?? so yea, like you said it would be a radical idea, and it could make GW a geniius or idiot, depending how it would work out.

DT's cost alot of money, and we have more glaring holes to fill currently, and not to mention any cap hit we take from whoever we cut (arch maybe, or not) who knows

No, Marshall's problem is that he has no speed. He's certainly big enough to play MLB in the NFL, he just has no ability to break up a play in the backfield(he doesn't have to make the play, just break up the flow of the play and take out the blockers). And its totally on scheme on who gets pulled on 3rd downs. Williams likes to play a 3-3-5 and keep his MLB on the field.

Ok, but (for the same kind of Safety-position-swap the Eagles did) why not just play Rocky at MLB and get our money's worth out of Archuleta at WLB? Arch would play closer to the line and he tackles exceptionally well.

I don't think Rocky has the experience yet to play MLB. He has the physical tools for it, and Arch might be an interesting WLB. But neither have played those potential positions. Lewis has played MLB(spelling Trotter) and WLB for the Eagles. I would rather dump Arch and get Lewis, but thats just me.

akhhorus
12-27-2006, 04:37 PM
If Reed is coming along, I don't think we'll go after a safety. We'll probably make due with the guys already on the team and cut Arch this year or next.

Can someone explain when Reed Doughty became even a remotely serviceable player at all? He's a special teamer right now and has looked bad in limited play on defense. Maybe we should wait for him to show..i don't know...SOMETHING..on the defense before thinking he's a potential player for us at Safety.

Redskin4Life
12-27-2006, 04:39 PM
Can someone explain when Reed Doughty became even a remotely serviceable player at all? He's a special teamer right now and has looked bad in limited play on defense. Maybe we should wait for him to show..i don't know...SOMETHING..on the defense before thinking he's a potential player for us at Safety.
I was just answering the point made in the first post about Reed coming along. I don't know if another offseason would be enough for him to understand this system better or he's going to be a Teamer for life.

I'm not assuming that he's the answer... I'm just saying that if he is, then we'll move on with the Arch experiment and find someone else.

akhhorus
12-27-2006, 04:43 PM
I was just answering the point made in the first post about Reed coming along. I don't know if another offseason would be enough for him to understand this system better or he's going to be a Teamer for life.

I'm not assuming that he's the answer... I'm just saying that if he is, then we'll move on with the Arch experiment and find someone else.

I wasn't necessarily directing that towards you. I've seen a few references towards him recently and was befuddled at the sudden interest in him.

Ibleedburgundy
12-27-2006, 04:43 PM
That seems like a good route to get Clements and Smoot and draft D line if possible.

Another way would be to sign Briggs to play MLB and Smoot, keep Springs and draft D-line.

Something tells me Smoot isn't coming back. Gregg's ego is too big for that.

Ibleedburgundy
12-27-2006, 04:45 PM
Can someone explain when Reed Doughty became even a remotely serviceable player at all? He's a special teamer right now and has looked bad in limited play on defense. Maybe we should wait for him to show..i don't know...SOMETHING..on the defense before thinking he's a potential player for us at Safety.

Nope, I'm pretty sure all he has done is make that one good special teams hit.

akhhorus
12-27-2006, 04:46 PM
That seems like a good route to get Clements and Smoot and draft D line if possible.

Another way would be to sign Briggs to play MLB and Smoot, keep Springs and draft D-line.

Something tells me Smoot isn't coming back. Gregg's ego is too big for that.

I'm wary of Briggs. He has a ton of talent around him in Chicago and might be a system player. I think Smoot could come back, but he won't get a big deal from us. Having him come back wouldn't be Williams admitting to a "mistake" because Smoot's time in Minny has been so bad(on and off the field) and the Skins did better without him in 2005.

Redskin4Life
12-27-2006, 04:49 PM
I wasn't necessarily directing that towards you. I've seen a few references towards him recently and was befuddled at the sudden interest in him.
I guess for me I'm curious about the fact that he's been on the active roster this whole time. I know he's playing teams but so is another rook on the roster... Rocky. So I'm wondering if maybe he's not as bad as we think he must be to not get in on gameday... maybe he's just not getting it as well as some of the vets. Or it could just be that... the coaching staff likes to play vets over rooks at all times. Then again it's not like the starters in the secondary seem to understand GW's system...

Redskin4Life
12-27-2006, 04:50 PM
I think Smoot could come back, but he won't get a big deal from us. Having him come back wouldn't be Williams admitting to a "mistake" because Smoot's time in Minny has been so bad(on and off the field) and the Skins did better without him in 2005.
Not to mention the fact that it would be more of a compliment of GW's genius if Smoot comes back to '04 form...

X-Factor58
12-27-2006, 04:52 PM
can't we just sign a MLB? what i mean by this is wouldn't it be way less of a risk than teaching a WLB or SLB the mike spot? i know it seems like a small transition but it is more than one would think.

Ibleedburgundy
12-27-2006, 04:54 PM
I'm wary of Briggs. He has a ton of talent around him in Chicago and might be a system player. I think Smoot could come back, but he won't get a big deal from us. Having him come back wouldn't be Williams admitting to a "mistake" because Smoot's time in Minny has been so bad(on and off the field) and the Skins did better without him in 2005.

The other half of the equation is Smoot's ego. Obviously a little bruised, but that's a heaping gulp of pride to swallow.

As for Briggs, yeah he's srrounded by great players but he pulls his weight from what I've seen.

chrisbcbu
12-27-2006, 05:09 PM
The 2 guys i would target are:

Asante Samuel - Still learning in the NFL and is only 25. Can be a good addition.

Lamar Fletcher - 3rd in the NFL in tackling and is truely a MLB. Also played in GWs system.

Would love to get but probably too expensive is Nate Clements. If we were to get both Nate Clements and Smoot, then we could try and move Springs to Safety. That would be one sick secondary! (Taylor, Springs, Rogers, Clements)

skinsfan36
12-27-2006, 05:23 PM
ok heres my list of guys to look at/sign/consider
first off resign dock,and pucillo,and offer wade althoough he may want to start and could for arizona or be oaklands best lineman

de chris kelsay buffalo-young promising defensive end
de dewayne white tampa bay-guy tb really likes and will probably keep due to simeon rice probably on his way out,if not take a look at him
de justin smith cincy-if he is not resigned call him at 12:01 he is great vs the run and has 7 or 8 sacks this season

dt terdell sands oakland-rotational player who does not start for oakland because they have a good dline,good run stopper
dt hollis thomas new orleans-veteran player having a good year but is it because hes in a walk year,at the least an upgrade over joe s.

mlb london fletcher bills-has 130+ tackles i believe and used to play for gw in buffalo,huge upgrade over marshall
mlb kawika mitchell chiefs-mitchell really has had a good year and the chiefs are really trying to keep him apparently
mlb napolean harris viks-mlb in viks record breaking run stopping unit

cb nate clements bills-we all know we better call him at 12:01 am
cb jamar fletcher lions-yeah your laughing but he was gws number one choice to replace walt harris but he went to det to start,look at for nickel only
cb nick harper colts-very good corner someone you dont hear his name much though
cb jason david colts- would be great nickel back
cb roderick hood-did well filling in for sheppard this year,very good nickel,teamer at worst
cb asante samuel new england-another great option at #1 but will probably be kept in new england
cb smoot if released for nickel

s-ken hamlin seattle- a hard hitter whos good in coverage
s-kevin kaesvalelin cincy-young safety with upside
s-jay bellamy new orleans-good option who is young

skinfan43
12-27-2006, 05:28 PM
Ok, how about this one, as long as we're getting creative:

1) Sean Taylor is a tackling machine, and a mean dude on the field, goes 6'2 and 235, knows our system and GW loves him...ladies and gentlemen, our new MLB.
2) Sign Clements, move Springs to Free Safety, sign Deion Grant or plug in PP or Vincent at SS, and get Justin Smith or Adalius Thomas for DE.
3) Draft a DE and CB w/first two picks.
4) Pick up a good, taller possession receiver (who is out there?) and cut Lloyd.
5) Use the rest of the players we already have and pray for some '05 moxy to come back to our defense!

greatest2
12-27-2006, 05:45 PM
Ok, how about this one, as long as we're getting creative:

1) Sean Taylor is a tackling machine, and a mean dude on the field, goes 6'2 and 235, knows our system and GW loves him...ladies and gentlemen, our new MLB.
2) Sign Clements, move Springs to Free Safety, sign Deion Grant or plug in PP or Vincent at SS, and get Justin Smith or Adalius Thomas for DE.
3) Draft a DE and CB w/first two picks.
4) Pick up a good, taller possession receiver (who is out there?) and cut Lloyd.
5) Use the rest of the players we already have and pray for some '05 moxy to come back to our defense!

i don't know about the rest of you post, but taylor at MLB is very scary for a Qb and running back to see, with as many twist and stuff gw does with his linebackers on blitzs. that is scary!:inkston:

SpicyMcHaggis
12-27-2006, 05:47 PM
Ok, how about this one, as long as we're getting creative:

1) Sean Taylor is a tackling machine, and a mean dude on the field, goes 6'2 and 235, knows our system and GW loves him...ladies and gentlemen, our new MLB.
2) Sign Clements, move Springs to Free Safety, sign Deion Grant or plug in PP or Vincent at SS, and get Justin Smith or Adalius Thomas for DE.
3) Draft a DE and CB w/first two picks.
4) Pick up a good, taller possession receiver (who is out there?) and cut Lloyd.
5) Use the rest of the players we already have and pray for some '05 moxy to come back to our defense!
One of those 2 would be a 5th rounder. We don't have our 2nd, 3rd, and 4th rounders.
And I would definitely not move Taylor to MLB. But I would love to have Adalius Thomas.

skinfan43
12-27-2006, 06:00 PM
i don't know about the rest of you post, but taylor at MLB is very scary for a Qb and running back to see, with as many twist and stuff gw does with his linebackers on blitzs. that is scary!:inkston:
Hell, if he gets 80 tackles at Safety, he'd get 160 at MLB, right? lol

JoeJacksonTaylor28
12-27-2006, 06:11 PM
Ok, how about this one, as long as we're getting creative:

1) Sean Taylor is a tackling machine, and a mean dude on the field, goes 6'2 and 235, knows our system and GW loves him...ladies and gentlemen, our new MLB.

I honestly don't think it is a good idea. I would leave ST where he is and get a true MLB, plus, he is still learning at FS, how long will it take for him to adapt at MLB?

2) Sign Clements, move Springs to Free Safety, sign Deion Grant or plug in PP or Vincent at SS, and get Justin Smith or Adalius Thomas for DE.

I like the idea of moving SS to Safety, as long as he restructures his contract.

Dolla Bill
12-27-2006, 06:21 PM
If Taylor can't get lined up in the secondary, how the heck is he going to orchestrate the entire LB corp? I like your imagination with your thinking, but I think Danny will splash and get a MLB in FA. I can see a FA signing for DB and MLB, and please trade down our 1st.

becky
12-27-2006, 06:44 PM
One of those 2 would be a 5th rounder. We don't have our 2nd, 3rd, and 4th rounders.
And I would definitely not move Taylor to MLB. But I would love to have Adalius Thomas.


I agree.. it's nice in theory, but I like Sean where he's at, he just needs to take the next step. Asking him to learn a brand new position is asking for trouble IMO. I'd love to have Thomas too, but I have a feeling Baltimore will resign him.

akhhorus
12-27-2006, 06:46 PM
I agree.. it's nice in theory, but I like Sean where he's at, he just needs to take the next step. Asking him to learn a brand new position is asking for trouble IMO. I'd love to have Thomas too, but I have a feeling Baltimore will resign him.

Agree baby on Taylor. He doesn't watch film and needs someone to tell him where to lineup, and we want him to run the defense? Thomas ain't leaving Balto either I think.

ryflan47
12-27-2006, 06:53 PM
Can someone explain when Reed Doughty became even a remotely serviceable player at all? He's a special teamer right now and has looked bad in limited play on defense. Maybe we should wait for him to show..i don't know...SOMETHING..on the defense before thinking he's a potential player for us at Safety.

Thank you. He gets burned too much.

redskin_rich
12-27-2006, 07:02 PM
Thank you. He gets burned too much.
Huh? Doughty has been in on a couple plays all season. How and when did he ever get burned? He has looked good on special teams the last couple games. He will get his chance to compete for a job next season but by no means should he be considered the automatic next Safety.

jtovb2005
12-27-2006, 07:23 PM
Huh? Doughty has been in on a couple plays all season. How and when did he ever get burned? He has looked good on special teams the last couple games. He will get his chance to compete for a job next season but by no means should he be considered the automatic next Safety.

Doughty got burned a bit in preseason if I remember right. I also seem to remember him covering on one TD in earlier in the season.

That said I don't think the story is written on him yet. Camp and preseason will be his test. Can't count on him as a starter yet.

VegasSkinsFan
12-27-2006, 10:20 PM
Forget Taylor at MLB....how about Sellers haha. Go Skins

redskin_rich
12-27-2006, 10:41 PM
I think changing around players has been part of the problem here. GW has placed his system above his players individual talents and compounded the problem with his spotty judgement for personnel. Without getting into detail, GW has been given plenty of resources every year, yet his unit has declined each year. GW has gotten our top draft pick each year since he has been here. He has received plenty of free agent acquisitions. Yet, his unit is still in need of major acquisitions at DE, MLB and CB. Every level of his unit needs either a top free agent and/or a high draft pick to fill the needs.
Meanwhile, the offense is set, only depth is needed.
I realize how hard it is to have a flawless team in this era but it seems to me that GW has been given priority, over these past 3 years, yet still seems to be going backwards.
This is it. We acquire a CB, MLB and DE through the draft and free agency, as our highest priorities. GW has to make it work, or we should let him and his ego take a walk.

greatest2
12-28-2006, 12:27 AM
I think changing around players has been part of the problem here. GW has placed his system above his players individual talents and compounded the problem with his spotty judgement for personnel. Without getting into detail, GW has been given plenty of resources every year, yet his unit has declined each year. GW has gotten our top draft pick each year since he has been here. He has received plenty of free agent acquisitions. Yet, his unit is still in need of major acquisitions at DE, MLB and CB. Every level of his unit needs either a top free agent and/or a high draft pick to fill the needs.
Meanwhile, the offense is set, only depth is needed.
I realize how hard it is to have a flawless team in this era but it seems to me that GW has been given priority, over these past 3 years, yet still seems to be going backwards.
This is it. We acquire a CB, MLB and DE through the draft and free agency, as our highest priorities. GW has to make it work, or we should let him and his ego take a walk.


all fantastic points, and i think your thinking like the skins. this is GWs tryout year, and its interesting how we give him everything he wants and he still doesn't function. you can't say the same for the offense, as they changed OCs and haven't to draft prospects (aside from JC who we trade for)

BigCountry
12-28-2006, 12:43 AM
Here's who I'd like to see us take a serious look at, and I'll leave the $$ numbers up to our cap guru, Eric Shaffer;):

MLB - Fletcher. (or Adalius Thomas, perhaps?)
Safety - not sure, but Springs might be moved there, we are getting Prioleau back (HUGE, imo), and have Vincent or Arch/Doughty/Fox for depth if all of this happens, plus save cap room if Springs restructures (which he'd obviously have to for this scenario to occur, which I think it can and will, especially since nobody will probably offer Springs what we could give him in a restructured deal, he's older and definitely damaged goods but still plays very well when healthy.)
Corner - I like Clements, but Samuel would be good too. Need better nickle options than Jenny Wrong and Ahdontknowhowtoplaycorner Jimoh, plus draft one.
Defensive End - Justin Smith plus draft one.
How about D-Tackle? Golston has played well for a sixth-rounder, but I'd LOVE another playmaker like Griffin there next season, let Golston and Montgomery develop fo another year. Sadly, Big Joe looks useless anymore. Anyone know who's available at DT?

Ian Scott from the Bears

joethefan
12-28-2006, 09:22 AM
I think changing around players has been part of the problem here. GW has placed his system above his players individual talents and compounded the problem with his spotty judgement for personnel. Without getting into detail, GW has been given plenty of resources every year, yet his unit has declined each year. GW has gotten our top draft pick each year since he has been here. He has received plenty of free agent acquisitions. Yet, his unit is still in need of major acquisitions at DE, MLB and CB. Every level of his unit needs either a top free agent and/or a high draft pick to fill the needs.
Meanwhile, the offense is set, only depth is needed.
I realize how hard it is to have a flawless team in this era but it seems to me that GW has been given priority, over these past 3 years, yet still seems to be going backwards.
This is it. We acquire a CB, MLB and DE through the draft and free agency, as our highest priorities. GW has to make it work, or we should let him and his ego take a walk.

Rich I never thought about that...al great points. If we give him another gift this year with our top pick and if he can't make anything happen, then yes I say it's time to cut our losses.....

garedskin
12-28-2006, 11:03 AM
Free agents i find interesting, and worth looking at.

Deon Grant FS, maybe a good fit next to taylor. only 27.

napoleon harris MLB, we do need a mike linebacker. Only 27. hasn't had a great year, but is rangy, and since the vikes re-sgned henderson, he might be available.

Omar Stoutmire Safety, played here before. can plug the hole til a young guy picks it up.

Phillip Buchanon CB, not as great as people thought he would be. Could be a solid number 3 here?

Nate Clements CB, we all know about him

Asante Samuel CB, i think we either sign him OR clements. Guy is only 25, and has developed his coverage skills, and can continue to develop. has gotten beat a couple times, but has also made his fair share of plays.

Jared Allen DE, he is a Restricted free agent so it will take some money to get him. he is only 24, has 8 sacks and 70plus tackles, on KC's defense nuff said

Justin Smith DE, 70 plus tackles, 7 sacks on Cinci defense. 27 years old as well.

Bryan Thomas DE, 70 plus tackles, 8.5 sacks on jets defense, also 27

Fred Smoot CB, ok so he isn't a free agent, but it looks like it is a serious possibility, especially with that rookie taking his place in the starting line-up and him just suffering from a broken jaw. he can be a number 3 guy, and he knows the system pretty well. i think he would want to come here, be like a coming home, and i know as a fan at the stadium, i would welcome him home with open arms and smooooooooooooooooooooooooooot cry's:lol1:

I just looked at defense, and at positions of need, Safety/corner/ mike linebacker. i think washington is still good at outside linebacker as well as Rocky, but lemar can't hold up in the middle. We need a number 1 corner, and a number 3 or 4 corner. At safety we need someone as well. the key with safety is how is reed dougherty coming along, maybe he can pick it up there so we don't have to spend big money, and we can just plug the whole. these are just some of the few i found interesting, what do you guys think? who do we make a run at? who will be here? who do you want here? what kinda salary you think they get? how will this impact the draft?


First thing that needs to be done is restructuring some of the huge contracts next season. Wynn,Brunell,Portis,Samuels,Springs,Jansen,Griffin ,Washington,Thomas,and Patten to name a few.
I would push hard for Nate Cements and Justin Smith in FA.
Resign Dockery,Purcillo,Wade,Molinaro,Albright,Posey,Fox, Jimoh,and Frost.
Draft MLB Patrick Willis from Ole Miss.
Draft a couple of o-linemen and a blocking Te.
Salavea and Griffin have both been playing banged up ALL year long,both the rookies got alot of playing time because of this and they have had there moments up and down.I think if they go into the season healthy they could rotate the 4 of them out.
Assuming Willis picks up the system fast enough to start right away,I think sliding Marshall over to the WLB again might make him more effective.It would also help Willis development at the MLB spot.
I know some would say why not Rocky on the WLB slot.Well he sure did not pick up the scheme fast enough to replace Holdman this entire season.He started once Washington was put on the IR.He has the physical tools but he still needs to KNOW what he has to do in each alignment.
Once he gets the mental part down I believe he would replace Marshall at the WLB.This would have Campbell,Holdman,Posey,and either Marshall/McCintosh as the backups.
Archuleta I am praying picks up this system in the off season and becomes the starter.He needs to keep his ass at Redskin Park rather than the desert of AZ to have any chance of achieving this goal.
With Pearson Prealeau coming back,Vincent,and Fox the Safety play could be good again.
This would leave Clements and Springs as the starting CBs and Rogers the nickle back.Alot of times you need to have at least 3 cbs on the field.Springs has a year or to left in those legs to play opposite of Clements.Then Rogers could roll back over once Springs cannot start any more.Jimoh is a good special teams guy and a serviceable 4th cb.
The WRs position is a huge question mark for me.
It is one thing for Randle El and Lioyd to struggle coming into a new system,but I am leaning to the so,so QB play ALL season long from both Brunell and Campbell.
I think and hope I am right that El and Lloyds productivity improves significantly once Campbell improves his all around play.
Moss has had a very pedestrian season as well.HE has had a nagging hamstring injury all year which no doubt cut into his production this season.
I believe we will have better wr play once the QB improves his.
This to me is very do able.The team would not have to splurge to fix some of the problems that plagued this team in 06.There would be some changes to the roster but not like the past 4 seasons.We need some continuity on the defensive side of the ball and better luck with the injury bug as well.:Peace:

BIGSEF3
12-28-2006, 12:21 PM
I think we'll sign Junior Seau to the largest contract ever for LB.

skinsfan36
12-28-2006, 06:15 PM
ok well i was bored so i floated to the bills forum and they talked like fletcher was going to be available and said he hoped for an extension before last year when he signed with drew rosenhaus. drew works well with snyder so that could be looking good for us.they were talking crap they were like yeah fletcher and clements will probably go to the skins but they have a worse chance of making the playoffs then we do. whatever you we have jc and they have jp so i think it looks better for us.

NCskinsfanatic
12-28-2006, 06:29 PM
Im ok with Fletcher at MLB as long as we draft one to develop too. And I'd love to have Clements. no matter who we sign I still think it's essential we trade down from the top 10 and pick up a couple of first day picks instead.

smoak
12-28-2006, 07:50 PM
I'm tired of free agency. I say we focus on keeping Dock and adding cheap role players. Clements is the tempting exception but I have a feeling he will get PAID!