View Full Version : Dockery wants to re-sign!
chrisbcbu
12-28-2006, 01:59 AM
Washington Times (http://washingtontimes.com/sports/20061228-121826-8233r.htm)
Left guard Derrick Dockery leads Washington with 62 straight starts, but he's also the only entrenched Redskins regular whose contract is expiring.
"I think Dock will be back," left tackle Chris Samuels said. "I mess with him all the time, 'Dock, I need you back. I don't feel like learning how to play with somebody else.' "
While cornerback Champ Bailey (after the 2003 season), linebacker Antonio Pierce and cornerback Fred Smoot (both 2004) and safety Ryan Clark (2005) all left after they couldn't agree to a new contract with Washington before the end of a season, Dockery said that won't be true for him.
"I love being a Redskin," said Dockery, the top prospective free agent guard after Cincinnati's Eric Steinbach. "I want to be here. I'm going to tell my agent to do what we have to do for that to happen."
That would be welcome news to Dockery's linemates and position coach.
"Derrick has improved light years," offensive line coach Joe Bugel said. "When I first saw him on tape [in the winter of 2004], I thought he was a work in progress. He had a lot of ugly errors. He has progressed every year. He doesn't miss practice. He doesn't miss games. You can coach him hard."
Center Casey Rabach said that Dockery's game has really taken off since the bye week at midseason.
"Dock has found his stride," Rabach said. "His pad leverage and his footwork are a lot better. He's playing faster and fiercer. Any time you can keep your five guys together that's huge. An offensive line lives on its cohesiveness."
If Dockery returns, the Redskins would have the same starting quintet for a third consecutive season. It would make five straight years for Dockery, Samuels and right guard Randy Thomas.
"The hard work I put in the offseason made a difference," said Dockery, who lost 20 pounds on his 6-foot-6 frame to get down to 325. "Coach Bugel pushed me real hard and the four guys around me helped a lot, too. I feel a lot quicker, a lot better. And I have a lot more confidence in my ability. I want to be somebody my teammates can trust to get my man on every play. It's definitely my best season. I knew if I played well, the money will come."
We have heard this before, I really hope we do sign him. Our OL is starting to really gel and i think they need to stay together.
I will be really happy if this could be done before Free agency.
redskin_rich
12-28-2006, 02:01 AM
I hope we re-sign Dock, too but I don't trust any talk from either side. Get it done already.
Fathead
12-28-2006, 02:04 AM
Dock is worth resigning if we don't have to break the bank. I hope it happens.
Dept_of_Defense
12-28-2006, 02:05 AM
Continuity on the O-line has been something we haven't had. I would love for Dock to re-sign.
bigcmr
12-28-2006, 02:08 AM
I think it is a must to re-sign Dock. Constancy up front is hard to have these days in the NFL.
greatest2
12-28-2006, 02:10 AM
glad to hear, but we have heard it before.
if everybody is in agreement, why isn't it done yet, like betts?
we knew we wanted to resign him, we didn't know with betts, and betts get done faster. Get it done already FO, we need this guy for cohesion, and the line is really playin well, at a level i haven't personally seen (only 20, to young to really remember the hogs)
could be a top 3 line if we keep him, and the group stays at there level and improves a little.
LadyNRedskinsfan
12-28-2006, 02:22 AM
Continuity on the O-line has been something we haven't had. I would love for Dock to re-sign.
i agree. they are on a tear right now and it would be great to be able to depend on them next year.....EARLY next year. btw DoD, your av has me lmao.....reminds me of my dog (minus the hair).
CNYSkinFan
12-28-2006, 08:09 AM
file this in the "will only believe it when it happens drawer" Alot of Redskins at the end of the year talked about resigning only to be lured by relatively small amounts of money to the blame of both them and the FO who coulod not pony up the extra cash to keep them while overpaying free agents to replaace them.
CarMike
12-28-2006, 08:15 AM
I'll believe it when I see it in writing. I'm not going to get my hopes up again. We've been burnt way to many times by players saying they want to be a Redskin and couldn't see themselves playing anywhere else. Only to see them sign with another team when FA opens.
hail2skins
12-28-2006, 08:19 AM
It was mentioned on the radio this morning that Samuels is willing to restructure so the team could resign Dock.
CNYSkinFan
12-28-2006, 08:39 AM
It was mentioned on the radio this morning that Samuels is willing to restructure so the team could resign Dock.
Samuels has been very outspoken in wanting Dock back and that is good news for Dock, since not only is he our only pro-bowler, but serves on the line next to him.
rusty73
12-28-2006, 09:08 AM
All those fancy numbers in the running game won't mean squat if they don't keep the O-line together. It is true though, that they have to start thinking about replacing some of the gray hairs( what are these guys over 30? ha ha) sad but true. Although there always was Ray Brown a dinosaur of distinction.:rolleyes:
Keino
12-28-2006, 09:19 AM
I tend to believe him. This is stronger language than what was used by Pierce and Smoot and the fact that his teamates are willing to restructure to get him what he needs is a great sign. Dockery is a prime example of why we shouldn't be trading our 3rd round picks so quickly.
chrisbcbu
12-28-2006, 09:20 AM
All those fancy numbers in the running game won't mean squat if they don't keep the O-line together. It is true though, that they have to start thinking about replacing some of the gray hairs( what are these guys over 30? ha ha) sad but true. Although there always was Ray Brown a dinosaur of distinction.:rolleyes:
Yes we do need to start rebuilding our depth on the line. But right now, our OL is not that old, but they are putting some years on them. right now we have 2 players 30yr old, 2 at 29, 1 at 26.
joethefan
12-28-2006, 10:06 AM
Hopefully this can get done quickly...we don't need any other holes to try to plug....
redskinz#1fan
12-28-2006, 10:11 AM
I tend to believe him. This is stronger language than what was used by Pierce and Smoot and the fact that his teamates are willing to restructure to get him what he needs is a great sign. Dockery is a prime example of why we shouldn't be trading our 3rd round picks so quickly.
This is how I feel also! It deffinitely speaks volumes when the players around you are willing to do whatever it takes to keep a player on the roster. The FO will get this done................I hope!
tbfoster1
12-28-2006, 10:20 AM
I'll believe it when I see it in writing. I'm not going to get my hopes up again. We've been burnt way to many times by players saying they want to be a Redskin and couldn't see themselves playing anywhere else. Only to see them sign with another team when FA opens.
yeah, It seems when someone says "I want to be a Redskin" that they are already packing their bags. The O-line is playing as good or better than any in the league right now and i think that can carry over to next year. Re-signing Dock is key. Hopefully we have a big win over the Gints this weekend so there can be a good taste in his mouth at the seasons end...and I didn't buy his jersey recently so there is a good chance he'll stay ;)
Biggie
12-28-2006, 11:01 AM
Yes we do need to start rebuilding our depth on the line. But right now, our OL is not that old, but they are putting some years on them. right now we have 2 players 30yr old, 2 at 29, 1 at 26.
I think the most of the guys on that line have at least two more years in them, and Dockery is by far the youngest. If we're going to start building a younger o-line in a couple of years, we need Dockery to be the anchor.
LATrueRedskin
12-28-2006, 11:24 AM
It was mentioned on the radio this morning that Samuels is willing to restructure so the team could resign Dock.
That's what you like to hear. These guys are friends, it seems, and it says a lot about them if they're willing to mess with their money in order to keep one of their friends on the team. Kudos to Samuels, and everybody else that restructures for the benefit of the team.
openallnight
12-28-2006, 11:44 AM
This thread title threw me for a loop. I thought it meant Dock was resigning as in quitting football!
I hope this is true. IMO Dock has really come into his own. He looked to regress a little at the beginning of the season but, he has really come on strong as of late. Keeping this oLine in tact would be the best offseason move we could possibly make on the offensive side of the ball. (Unfortunately, I don't have similar feelings about the other side)
SpicyMcHaggis
12-28-2006, 11:48 AM
This thread title threw me for a loop. I thought it meant Dock was resigning as in quitting football!
I hope this is true. IMO Dock has really come into his own. He looked to regress a little at the beginning of the season but, he has really come on strong as of late. Keeping this oLine in tact would be the best offseason move we could possibly make on the offensive side of the ball. (Unfortunately, I don't have similar feelings about the other side)
Rotflmao...thank man, that cracked me up!
akhhorus
12-28-2006, 12:23 PM
After Smoot and Pierce saying identical things, all I have to say is: Grog believes it when Grog sees it.
GolfFreak
12-28-2006, 12:23 PM
Glad to hear he truely wants to be here, I think we need to keep the OLine in tact and this would mean bringing back the same 5 starters. I hope it gets done soon!
joethefan
12-28-2006, 12:26 PM
This thread title threw me for a loop. I thought it meant Dock was resigning as in quitting football!
I hope this is true. IMO Dock has really come into his own. He looked to regress a little at the beginning of the season but, he has really come on strong as of late. Keeping this oLine in tact would be the best offseason move we could possibly make on the offensive side of the ball. (Unfortunately, I don't have similar feelings about the other side)
LOL Now that you mention it it does look like it as well..:lol1:
BIGSEF3
12-28-2006, 12:29 PM
After Smoot and Pierce saying identical things, all I have to say is: Grog believes it when Grog sees it.
Yeah, I remember that as well. I think we can also add clark to that list. It would be absolutely moronic for a player to have his agent take that stance with a team, because basically youre saying: "Please screw me over. I'll take much less money than i deserve so that you can sign low quality free agents to record-setting contracts like you do every year."
Dock saying this is just what every player says to look good to the fans. He may want to be here for his career, but he's not going to take that stance in negotiating. If the skins try to lowball him like they did with smoot, pierce and clark, docks probably going. Hopefully our FO has learned from its mistakes and will do what it takes (within reason) to keep him here.
BostonSkins
12-28-2006, 12:29 PM
This thread title threw me for a loop. I thought it meant Dock was resigning as in quitting football!
Count me in this camp as well. Any chance we could start using a hyphen when it comes to re-signing? And no hyphen when someone is retiring.
Seriously though, this is good news as long as he wants to re-sign in good faith for a reasonable salary. The O-line showed the biggest improvement of any area this season IMO (Special teams is a close second, if not tied for first). I honestly think that the O-line is enthusiastic about blocking for a young, up and coming QB as well as (hopefully) a power running game.
The Skinsinator
12-28-2006, 12:31 PM
Good news and I hope it gets done quickly. That left side will be solidified for quite awhile after this.
BIGSEF3
12-28-2006, 12:32 PM
BTW, just heard on 980 that samuels said he would restructure to help the team resign dock. i think thats a great gesture on his part, maybe some other linemen will follow suit.
(no link obviously, but figured i would share nontheless)
Keino
12-28-2006, 12:46 PM
BTW, just heard on 980 that samuels said he would restructure to help the team resign dock. i think thats a great gesture on his part, maybe some other linemen will follow suit.
(no link obviously, but figured i would share nontheless)
You're a little late.....
http://hailredskins.com/vbforum/showpost.php?p=890941&postcount=10
garedskin
12-28-2006, 12:48 PM
We will see in due time about his loyalty to this team.
If he signs for about what Thomas did in 2003 7 years 28 million 7 million signing bonus I would be good with that.I think they changed the lenghth of prorating signing bonus of fa contracts in the new CBA as well as the rookies.I have to look that up to be 100% sure.
Anyway it would be great to resign him.Each week when I watch them on the ticket,they are saying they are becoming the best line in football today.From what I have seen from them it is not a stretch at all.I am proud of all of them.Betts and Campbell have better rewarded them nicely for the time and holes they have created for them both.:Peace:
BIGSEF3
12-28-2006, 12:50 PM
You're a little late.....
http://hailredskins.com/vbforum/showpost.php?p=890941&postcount=10
:guillo: oops
chrisbcbu
12-28-2006, 01:47 PM
After Smoot and Pierce saying identical things, all I have to say is: Grog believes it when Grog sees it.
i think the biggest difference is that Gregg Williams wont go to Gibbs and say that Dockery is replaceable.
i think Williams is the sole reason we did not re-sign Pierce and Smoot.
skinsfan36
12-28-2006, 01:50 PM
this is great news i hope we get it done quick. samuels restructuring will help alot.
Ibleedburgundy
12-28-2006, 02:32 PM
"The hard work I put in the offseason made a difference," said Dockery, who lost 20 pounds on his 6-foot-6 frame to get down to 325
:imshock: Sorry I just think it's kinda funny to hear about a guy slimming down to 325.
BIGSEF3
12-28-2006, 02:32 PM
i think the biggest difference is that Gregg Williams wont go to Gibbs and say that Dockery is replaceable.
hahahaha, that was great!
frankez99
12-28-2006, 02:38 PM
What a concept!
A transaction that actually BENEFITS the team! I must have entered the Twilight Zone.
Re-sign Dock...do whatever you have to do.
Otherwise we'll release him, and sign T.O. to a 10 year, 80 million dollar contract after Dallas gets rid of him.:rolleyes:
I can see him now, "Mr Snyder, I won't let you down!".
BIGSEF3
12-28-2006, 02:50 PM
Otherwise we'll release him, and sign T.O. to a 10 year, 80 million dollar contract after Dallas gets rid of him.:rolleyes:
I can see him now, "Mr Snyder, I won't let you down!".
The guy drops more passes than our old 50/50.
danny's stogie
12-28-2006, 02:57 PM
I tend to believe him. This is stronger language than what was used by Pierce and Smoot and the fact that his teamates are willing to restructure to get him what he needs is a great sign. Dockery is a prime example of why we shouldn't be trading our 3rd round picks so quickly.
I'm not all that fond of trading picks mid-round picks either especially given the recent returns, but I don't think Dock is a good example. He's been very good recently and had an excellent second half of last season, but could it possibly have taken any longer for him to figure it out? The main reason Dock is still around is that they didn't have anyone better to take his place. I certainly hope the Skins don't have to once again endure any player's growing pains as painful as Dock's any time soon.
That said, continuity is key for an NFL Oline.
Redskinmayhem
12-28-2006, 04:10 PM
Man Dock was a steal in the 3rd round. glad to see he's a true Redskin.Lets hope he's not blowing wind up our you know what's.
NCskinsfanatic
12-28-2006, 04:33 PM
Well if he wants to resign then when's the press conference...get it done don't just talk about it.
Dept_of_Defense
12-28-2006, 07:14 PM
i agree. they are on a tear right now and it would be great to be able to depend on them next year.....EARLY next year. btw DoD, your av has me lmao.....reminds me of my dog (minus the hair).
Isn't the wig a riot? You're the 1st to mention anything about it. I still can't keep a straight face when I look @ it.
smoak
12-28-2006, 09:00 PM
This is our biggest off season priority IMO. Lets start taking care of our own!
Redskinfan28
12-28-2006, 11:28 PM
I hope we can keep him. Our OL has been one of the few bright spots this year.
Meatsnack
12-29-2006, 12:06 AM
Dock was a medocre to bad OG for three seasons. He has been consistently inconsistent. I am glad he has finally turned the corner. In a contract year. A suspicious man might call those things related.
In any case, if Samuels thinks highly enough of him to restructure, I hope we bring him back.
Emmanouel8
12-29-2006, 12:37 AM
Our chance to seriously upgrade this line was last season with Steve Hutchinson. Unless there's a high caliber G like that available I say we need to resign Dock and keep the continuity. He's average and can play above averae at times. We should focus on offensive line depth and revamping a lot of the the defense during the offseason. CB, 2 LB's, Safety, D lineman, depth... Lot of work
redskin_rich
12-29-2006, 01:04 AM
Our chance to seriously upgrade this line was last season with Steve Hutchinson. Unless there's a high caliber G like that available I say we need to resign Dock and keep the continuity. He's average and can play above averae at times. We should focus on offensive line depth and revamping a lot of the the defense during the offseason. CB, 2 LB's, Safety, D lineman, depth... Lot of work
Why 2 LB's?
SkinsfaninNJ
12-29-2006, 01:06 AM
Dock was a medocre to bad OG for three seasons. He has been consistently inconsistent. I am glad he has finally turned the corner. In a contract year. A suspicious man might call those things related.
In any case, if Samuels thinks highly enough of him to restructure, I hope we bring him back.
I don't totally agree with this. He had a good season last year as well, while starting slow but playing lights out down the stretch. So generally speaking I think he has put together two good (not great or pro bowl or anything like that) seasons.
But he's young and I like keeping the continuity of the line. Plus, I think he has more to give then this and can go up another level.
SkinsfaninNJ
12-29-2006, 01:07 AM
Why 2 LB's?
I've seen a lot of people say this. I guess everyone is ready to give up on MW.
Emmanouel8
12-29-2006, 01:15 AM
I've seen a lot of people say this. I guess everyone is ready to give up on MW.
No way, I'd get two to upgrade one and add depth to another. Washington is a stud. People are turning their backs on Marcus! Geez...
greatest2
12-29-2006, 04:00 AM
No way, I'd get two to upgrade one and add depth to another. Washington is a stud. People are turning their backs on Marcus! Geez...
its what happens to a 5-10 team, in the nations capital. nobody is safe, nobody:devil2:
by the way, how long you been a fan, you from dallass???:lol1:
redwolf1218
12-29-2006, 10:18 AM
it always scares me when a player insists that they want to come back. once bitten twice shy. but at least he said that he has told his agent to make it work. that's the difference. the others usually say something like "i'm leaving that up to my agent and the front office and it will work out". it is encouraging to me that Dockery is supposedly telling his agent in no uncertain terms to make it work somehow.
PennSkinsFan
12-29-2006, 10:20 AM
Samules is insistent on him coming back and I think that means alot to the staff with the respect they have for Samuels. I see this deal getting done much like Betts. I am more worried about the otherside of the Line and Jansen's drop off than I am of Big Dock and samuels side.
whitskins
12-29-2006, 10:26 AM
Please resign this guy, he's young, durable, and gets better every year. The OL had some shaky moments earlier this season, but on the whole they have been great. They let up a hair over 1 sack a game, and six of those sacks came in one game (at Dallas) and four of those sacks came in one quarter!
The OL is also the main reason why this run game is unstoppable right now. They are finally being used the right way and they are dominating the opposition all game long. I want to see this all season next year and with Clinton Portis in the mix. This offense could be lethal next year if they get Portis and Jansen healthy and keep the rest of the band together. Please sign this guy and don't let another solid contributor get away.
Meatsnack
12-29-2006, 11:21 AM
I don't totally agree with this. He had a good season last year as well, while starting slow but playing lights out down the stretch. So generally speaking I think he has put together two good (not great or pro bowl or anything like that) seasons.
But he's young and I like keeping the continuity of the line. Plus, I think he has more to give then this and can go up another level.
We will have to agree to disagree about Dock's season last year. He had good games but not a good season. In fact, I have difficulty remembering him having two consistently good games in a row at any point last year. What I remember is watching Samuels lunging for Dock's man because Dock missed his responsibility, again. Dock has played well the second half of this year, consistently. Before that he had a couple of good games and some really poor ones thrown in. His improvement has corresponded with our moving to mostly zone blocking and allowing Dock to cut block - something he does ridiculously well for a man as big as he is - and pull. Hopefully we will re-sign him and he will continue to improve. But Dock for two years previous has held back the left side of our o-line.
skinsfan36
12-29-2006, 06:37 PM
i want to see this guy resigned by the nfc championship game. do not let him hit the open market!
greatest2
12-29-2006, 07:07 PM
i want to see this guy resigned by the nfc championship game. do not let him hit the open market!
i think the NFL deadline to sign players to extension and have it count against the 2006 salary cap is saturday by 6 pm. I read it in an espn article, let me see if i can find it
EDIT: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2714313
theres the link
skinsfan36
12-29-2006, 07:18 PM
then lets get it done by 4pm sat then
RedskinRyan
12-30-2006, 04:17 PM
heard it way too many times before, and when his name is inked to a new deal, then ill believe it. but i would love to have dock back.
Biggie
12-30-2006, 05:02 PM
then lets get it done by 4pm sat then
Well, we've still got an hour left. :)
chrisbcbu
12-30-2006, 05:12 PM
i think the NFL deadline to sign players to extension and have it count against the 2006 salary cap is saturday by 6 pm. I read it in an espn article, let me see if i can find it
EDIT: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2714313
theres the link
it does not have have to be done by this time. It only has to be done at this time in order to have part of it on the 2006 salary cap. Which we dont have much room to fit it in.
NCskinsfanatic
12-30-2006, 05:22 PM
I'm not holding my breath...it probably aint getting done untill the offseason.
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