Arch opens up...

[LATrueRedskin]

Arch being cut is a given. Two reasons make this 100% certain. he has not played a defensive down and he lashed out and called the front office, aka Gibbs, a liar. Fate sealed. And we wll eat it. Which, please people remember this, this makes a Lloyd trade release nearly impossible for cap purposes.

I was listening to the post-game radio show and Joe Jacoby's co-anchor (his name escapes me right now) had a chat with Arculeta's agent, and Arch's agent suspects that we'll keep Archuleta for at least another season because it's too expensive to cut him. Take that for what it's worth. Looks like we'll have to take yet another cap hit.

[The Game]

I was listening to the post-game radio show and Joe Jacoby's co-anchor (his name escapes me right now) had a chat with Arculeta's agent, and Arch's agent suspects that we'll keep Archuleta for at least another season because it's too expensive to cut him. Take that for what it's worth. Looks like we'll have to take yet another cap hit.


if thats the case I think the raiders may trade a 3rd to you guys for him seeing as we have two of them. rob ryan was saying he was looking for a guy who can play on the LOS seeing as we have a good covering safety in mike huff already.
do you think you would trade him for a third?

[Skinz4lyfe]

I agree that we might end up having to keep Arch as well for cap reasons. The only way we'll be able to release him is if he "gives" money back ala Lavar last off-season. We simply cannot afford it and to upgrade on defense, which we so sorely need.

[LATrueRedskin]

if thats the case I think the raiders may trade a 3rd to you guys for him seeing as we have two of them. rob ryan was saying he was looking for a guy who can play on the LOS seeing as we have a good covering safety in mike huff already.
do you think you would trade him for a third?

Absolutely. He's absolutely worthless to Gregg Williams. He'd rather have Vernon Fox, Troy Vincent, and a guy named Reed Dougty whiff when attempting to tackle Tiki Barber instead of putting in Adam Archuleta. We'd probably trade him for a 6th rounder if we could alleviate ourselves of his contract.

[The Game]

Absolutely. He's absolutely worthless to Gregg Williams. He'd rather have Vernon Fox, Troy Vincent, and a guy named Reed Dougty whiff when attempting to tackle Tiki Barber instead of putting in Adam Archuleta. We'd probably trade him for a 6th rounder if we could alleviate ourselves of his contract.


LOL im expecting them to try and go after arch if free becuse the raiders who are in a RB heavy confrence need a SS to play 8 in the box seeing as we play alot of man he would be perfct in the raiders scheme. Id love for the raiders to get arch.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

Absolutely. He's absolutely worthless to Gregg Williams. He'd rather have Vernon Fox, Troy Vincent, and a guy named Reed Dougty whiff when attempting to tackle Tiki Barber instead of putting in Adam Archuleta. We'd probably trade him for a 6th rounder if we could alleviate ourselves of his contract.
thats pretty sad, lol. the guy doesnt even sniff the field unless there is a punter or kicker on it.

[redskin_rich]

Arch did play tonight at the end. I don't know why they put him out there but the Giants were obviously going to run the ball. As it was, he didn't get involved in the play, it was on the other side and he was playing deep. That was the only sighting I noticed.

[LATrueRedskin]

Arch did play tonight at the end. I don't know why they put him out there but the Giants were obviously going to run the ball. As it was, he didn't get involved in the play, it was on the other side and he was playing deep. That was the only sighting I noticed.

Yeah I saw him in on a play. I think he was in because Jimoh went down with an injury and we were playing some kind of dime defense.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

Arch did play tonight at the end. I don't know why they put him out there but the Giants were obviously going to run the ball. As it was, he didn't get involved in the play, it was on the other side and he was playing deep. That was the only sighting I noticed.
i believe he was on the field during that crucial 3rd down play where a pass was broken up and then kenny wright was called for holding. the rest of the drive is something i'd rather forget........:banghead:

[The Game]

id be willing to give a third for him or another team would whos in a heavy run confrence. whoever gets him though definatly would have to restrcture him.

[redskin_rich]

i believe he was on the field during that crucial 3rd down play where a pass was broken up and then kenny wright was called for holding. the rest of the drive is something i'd rather forget........:banghead:
Obviously I have already started to forget the game, since I can't remember what happened on the play, just that Arch was on the field.
The defense was bad but the officials were worse.

[OCSkinzFan]

LOL im expecting them to try and go after arch if free becuse the raiders who are in a RB heavy confrence need a SS to play 8 in the box seeing as we play alot of man he would be perfct in the raiders scheme. Id love for the raiders to get arch.
The Redskins should have kept 8 in the box tonight!

[BurgundyNGold]

i think Lemar Marshall has quietly battled injuries. unfortunately that might be a recurring theme because he's so undersized for the position. taking on guards and fullbacks to get to the play is going to wear him down.

Rogers needs to catch those picks he's always dropping to get respect.

you're right about Taylor, he misses Clark badly. bad move letting him go.

coaching changes: too many cooks in the kitchen. weed it out. the clokc is running down while 4 or 5 different guys discuss what to do next.
I'm guessing this is your opinion because he as very LOUDLY sucked since Week 1 when he was (still) healthy.

[HAWGZHEAD]

I'm guessing this is your opinion because he as very LOUDLY sucked since Week 1 when he was (still) healthy.:lol1:

[danny's stogie]

I'm guessing this is your opinion because he as very LOUDLY sucked since Week 1 when he was (still) healthy.

He had surgery in the offseason and by all accounts, both he and MW had been battling injuries all season. What's truly sad is that they don't have the confidence in anyone else to give these guys a few weeks off to get healthy.

[redwolf1218]

I'm guessing this is your opinion because he as very LOUDLY sucked since Week 1 when he was (still) healthy.
of course it's my opinion, but it's based on the fact that he had off-season shoulder surgery, so he probably was just as bad off or worse in week one, health-wise.

[Mizzin44]

My 4 year old could cover recievers better than him. It might also help if would actually make a tackle from time to time. Don't let the door hit you in the @^%!

[dukeuch]

My 4 year old could cover recievers better than him. It might also help if would actually make a tackle from time to time. Don't let the door hit you in the @^%!


Assuming you are talking about Archuleta; can't make tackles from the bench, and who the hell ever said he was a cover guy anyway? Waht did we think, if we paid him a lot he would acquire different skills?

Another failure of our ability to match a player's skills to our needs.

[hail2skins]

This is unbelievable. Arch was watched on film, interviewed and wooed in to coming here by this coaching staff. He doesn't produce and you defend the coaching staff. Priceless.
Arch was a rookie in this defense. He's suppose to make mistakes!! Six games in this defense - Six.
By the way, nothing I said earlier was irrevalant. If you weren't so blind in thinking, you'd see this organization has no respect of person when it comes to blowing 2 to 3 years of every player that comes here touted as a playmaker. They're so set in their system that they don't recognize that all playmakers make plays based on instinct more so than some "system" or over-coaching. Sometimes those instincts create turnovers - sometimes not. Sometimes you just gotta let 'em play. This coaching staff will always have these problems because they bring in players that have excelled in this league only to come here and be told a different way to play the game. If this coaching staff wants to coach, start drafting players out of college and not established free agents. Coaching is 90% psychology. This team drives players insane as evident on the field.

I am a fairweather fan. Heck, bad weather will alway loom over this organization until they get their preverbial heads out of their butts and stop playing these mind games with players. If Arch was playing a game to get paid now, cause a rift to create his release next year to eventually play for Lovie the following year than more power to him for a good power move ($$$). Play one year for the Redskins, get released with guaranteed money and go play for an upcoming winner in the Bears. Not bad. The problem is I don't think that was the case. The bigger problem is that it is what will happen and the Redskins again will be the laughing stock of the NFL.

Go Redskins.:banghead:That instinct you speak of can get you in trouble. Defenses are based on schemes. If you have a bunch of players just out there playing on instinct alone you're in trouble. Just like having a bunch of soldiers out there on instinct alone can get you in trouble. You need a training/coaching as well. This is a team sport and not an individual sport. You have 10 other people to rely on and depend on. Sometimes, a CB forces the receiver to the inside where the safety is helping. That's part of the scheme and not instinct. The CB is trusting the safety to be there based on the scheme, not instinct.

It like drawing a military plan, all parts have to their part or it fails.

[Mizzin44]

Didn't see this posted...
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=ApvWRMAiZlV8lCmwaBlxM5U5nYcB?slug=ap-redskins-archuleta&prov=ap&type=lgns

Love your Title for this thread, ad first I thought you were talking about his defence...:lol1:

[Skins7ny]

The one thing you can credit the FO for doing is not letting contracts kill the skins for very long. They take the hit and move on quickly.

I understand that the smorgasbord on the Titanic was really high-quality, too. Gotta give them credit for that!!

if thats the case I think the raiders may trade a 3rd to you guys for him seeing as we have two of them. rob ryan was saying he was looking for a guy who can play on the LOS seeing as we have a good covering safety in mike huff already.
do you think you would trade him for a third?

If we could get Al Davis to give us a 3rd for Archuleta, I will personally pay for an entire collection of new jogging suits for the old man! There is no way on earth any team is going to give us a high draft pick for Archuleta. The only team stupid enough to do something like that is us.

[akhhorus]

I understand that the smorgasbord on the Titanic was really high-quality, too. Gotta give them credit for that!!

(crickets). Heaven forbid the skins should do anything you like.

[shally]

as it stands now, it looks like gibbs was hinting that arch might return in his presser today...