Snyder named "Unsportsman of the Year" - Pretty nasty piece

[wewantdallas]

Does not paint a pretty picture of our owner. What else is new?

link (http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/display.php?id=347&navCenterTop)

[akhhorus]

Scary true sentence: Adam Archuleta is the highest-paid safety in NFL history

Is Ed Reed going to have to hold a presser to put this myth to bed finally?

And imo, a useless article. This is the same publication that went through all the draft picks Gibbs has made and whined about who he should have taken. Clearly, they have an agenda.

[smoak]

I get tired of the same recycled garbage. Snyder was a problem years ago, but there is not evidence that he is now. The ticket and parking prices are a simple matter of the law of supply and demand. The prices are going up b/c people are still flocking to the games. If we stop going (or buying parking from him) in mass numbers, the prices would adjust.

[Dolla Bill]

The last comment was rediculous. Talk about a trash an organization article.

[StogieHog]

Consider the source it came from. The Washington City Paper is not exactly the most prestigious rag out there. They will write anything to make some news.

[CarMike]

I like the fact they are to cowardly to give an email link to let them know what people think of their garbage. I'm sure they probably have one but i'm not about to waste my time on that rag of a newspaper.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Whatever....send them their invitation to the "haters ball" already!

[akhhorus]

I like the fact they are to cowardly to give an email link to let them know what people think of their garbage. I'm sure they probably have one but i'm not about to waste my time on that rag of a newspaper.


Oh, they do:
link to the purveyor of this d-baggery (http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/dmckenna@washcp.com)

[akhhorus]

Whatever....send them their invitation to the "haters ball" already!

http://www.hayzeus.net/images/silky_johnson1.jpg

What can I say about that article hasn't been said about Afghanistan. It looks bombed out and depleted. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to change the water in Lenny P's momma's dish.

[garedskin]

When I came to this line I had to stop reading this B/S.

“The Redskins are seriously mismanaged,” says Kevin A. Hassett, director of economic policy studies at American Enterprise Institute (AEI).

Okay I have been reading for the last 5 years or so that the Redskins are the most valuable sporting team in America.They are the only Billion dollar Franchise in the USA.Maybe the whole world.I am no economist expert but that clowns so called comment is straight up b/s.
Now the team has not produced on the field,but from the business end of it today the Redskins are a huge cash cow.
Like it or not Snyder KNOWS that Redskins fans will pay alot of money on this team.He is cashing in on this...........and now he is supposedly mismanaging this team on the financial end of it.:lol1: Crap once Snyder figures this out he is going to be making even more money.
This is just pure b/s in its worst form.The guy is just trying to sell papers/magz.:Peace:

[CNYSkinFan]

I can be critical of the organization at times but this article is baseless, shameless, and even worse of all poorly written.

It's a shamockery

[BurgundyNGold]

What did Tony K do that warrants being brought up in this article?

[Dept_of_Defense]

Is Ed Reed going to have to hold a presser to put this myth to bed finally?

And imo, a useless article. This is the same publication that went through all the draft picks Gibbs has made and whined about who he should have taken. Clearly, they have an agenda.
How come you keep saying that Ed Reed is the highest paid safety? If that's true wouldn't one of these articles mention that Archuleta is the 2nd highest paid safety in the league? They've never even mentioned Reed. I've heard ESPN, CNN, WP, AP, etc, etc. all say that Archuleta signed the richest contract for a safety in NFL History. Could they all be wrong?

[HAWGZHEAD]

http://www.hayzeus.net/images/silky_johnson1.jpg

What can I say about that article hasn't been said about Afghanistan. It looks bombed out and depleted. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to change the water in Lenny P's momma's dish.LOL, Pure gold akh!!

[akhhorus]

How come you keep saying that Ed Reed is the highest paid safety? If that's true wouldn't one of these articles mention that Archuleta is the 2nd highest paid safety in the league? They've never even mentioned Reed. I've heard ESPN, CNN, WP, AP, etc, etc. all say that Archuleta signed the richest contract for a safety in NFL History. Could they all be wrong?

Arch signed a 6-7 year 30 million dollar deal with 10 million guaranteed, at the time it was the richest contract for a safety. Within a few weeks, Reed agreed to(and then signed in June) a 6 year 40 million dollar extension with 15-18 million guaranteed. Reed makes more than Arch and his contract is worth more. Why they keep saying that is because of two reasons: 1-they're idiots who don't bother to check their facts or 2-they just like throwing that in as a dig at the Skins.

[redwolf1218]

How come you keep saying that Ed Reed is the highest paid safety? If that's true wouldn't one of these articles mention that Archuleta is the 2nd highest paid safety in the league? They've never even mentioned Reed. I've heard ESPN, CNN, WP, AP, etc, etc. all say that Archuleta signed the richest contract for a safety in NFL History. Could they all be wrong?
http://redskins.scout.com/3/salary_cap_chart.html

Arch hasnt made hardly any money yet.

[akhhorus]

http://redskins.scout.com/3/salary_cap_chart.html

Arch hasnt made hardly any money yet.

And 20 million of his entire contract is base salary in 2009-2012. No way he sees any of that either.

[redwolf1218]

And 20 million of his entire contract is base salary in 2009-2012. No way he sees any of that either.
yes, it looks like it was basically designed as a 3 year deal. the first 3 years are pretty modest.

[NCskinsfanatic]

http://www.hayzeus.net/images/silky_johnson1.jpg

What can I say about that article hasn't been said about Afghanistan. It looks bombed out and depleted. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to change the water in Lenny P's momma's dish.

Exactly akh, exactly...lmao.

[CarMike]

Arch signed a 6-7 year 30 million dollar deal with 10 million guaranteed, at the time it was the richest contract for a safety. Within a few weeks, Reed agreed to(and then signed in June) a 6 year 40 million dollar extension with 15-18 million guaranteed. Reed makes more than Arch and his contract is worth more. Why they keep saying that is because of two reasons: 1-they're idiots who don't bother to check their facts or 2-they just like throwing that in as a dig at the Skins.
Thank you for setting the record straight!

[danny's stogie]

This is pure bs. How about sportsman of the year for being a key player in getting over the owner's meeting, CBA impasse when he happened to be one of the owners who lost out the most in the deal.

[RedskinsDave]

Nothing was untrue in the article but it did seem like they were nitpicking. I do agree that he has ruined this franchise and chances are we are years away from fixing it.

The whole Six Flags stuff was bunk.

[Red Bear]

Thank you for setting the record straight!

actually its not straight. the difference is arch signed the highest FREE AGENT contract for a safety, while reeds was just an extension. altho you still have to fault the papers for not mentioning the free agent part

[akhhorus]

actually its not straight. the difference is arch signed the highest FREE AGENT contract for a safety, while reeds was just an extension. altho you still have to fault the papers for not mentioning the free agent part

Its semantic quibbling. Everyone implies that Arch is the highest paid safety in the NFL's history. Not once have I seen Arch's contract described as "the richest free agent contract ever", just as the "richest contract given to a safety".

[Biggie]

And 20 million of his entire contract is base salary in 2009-2012. No way he sees any of that either.

Which means he's basically on a three-year, $11 million deal. Not exactly a bank-breaker.

[silverspring]

this is just plain crap. Although it is unfortunate it is kind of hard to fault snyder for pricing and his marketing efforts when you take into account we are one of the top grossing teams in the league. And are the fans really complaining that we get the redskins radio coverage, the better website and generally more media about our team? And this guy can rip his player spending all he wants but he should at least point out how snyder has slowly handed control over to real football people while still leaving the purse strings open. It is a work in progress, but I would rather have snyder because he is willing to do whatever it takes and clearly he is learning and improving every year. There are plenty of owners out there hamstringing their team by simply refusing to spend money. I think snyder is going to be around for a while and I think his management will continue to get better and I can't fathom him ever closing the purse strings.
Simply one sided crap.

[Biggie]

this is just plain crap. Although it is unfortunate it is kind of hard to fault snyder for pricing and his marketing efforts when you take into account we are one of the top grossing teams in the league. And are the fans really complaining that we get the redskins radio coverage, the better website and generally more media about our team? And this guy can rip his player spending all he wants but he should at least point out how snyder has slowly handed control over to real football people while still leaving the purse strings open. It is a work in progress, but I would rather have snyder because he is willing to do whatever it takes and clearly he is learning and improving every year. There are plenty of owners out there hamstringing their team by simply refusing to spend money. I think snyder is going to be around for a while and I think his management will continue to get better and I can't fathom him ever closing the purse strings.
Simply one sided crap.

I'll give you everything except the radio coverage. Reception on those stations is just terrible at times.

[Itoolu]

I get tired of the same recycled garbage. Snyder was a problem years ago, but there is not evidence that he is now. The ticket and parking prices are a simple matter of the law of supply and demand. The prices are going up b/c people are still flocking to the games. If we stop going (or buying parking from him) in mass numbers, the prices would adjust.
Sorry but I dont see this as being true as I am a die hard Orioles fan and the crowds are getting smaller at a record pace and payroll is only marginally increased but ticket, and as we all know food and beer prices cont. to raise every year. I know baseball isnt football and Angelos isnt Snyder but I dont think supply and demand apply to owners unless your talking about % of the increase then maybe.

[Agrawog]

You know i will complain and criticize the team and Snyder as much as anyone but the problem with that article is that it completely lacks evidence or depth. There are lots of charges but no details.

Mis-run? How? Why? Evidence of this? Even the assumption that everyone has the same amount of money to spend is wrong. Some owners try to make money on their teams and revenues vary widely and so does payroll. It just seems like a very superficial piece. Lazy, actually.

[dukeuch]

this is just plain crap. Although it is unfortunate it is kind of hard to fault snyder for pricing and his marketing efforts when you take into account we are one of the top grossing teams in the league. And are the fans really complaining that we get the redskins radio coverage, the better website and generally more media about our team? And this guy can rip his player spending all he wants but he should at least point out how snyder has slowly handed control over to real football people while still leaving the purse strings open. It is a work in progress, but I would rather have snyder because he is willing to do whatever it takes and clearly he is learning and improving every year. There are plenty of owners out there hamstringing their team by simply refusing to spend money. I think snyder is going to be around for a while and I think his management will continue to get better and I can't fathom him ever closing the purse strings.
Simply one sided crap.

Well, I think this "work in progress" stuff is crap. The team is worse than when he took over many years ago, two winning seasons in eight years (and one of them was befreo Snyder had time to cause any damage) and a record this year every bit as good as Spurrier's worst. Where is the progress?

Snyder's a tool.

[RedskinsDave]

Well, I think this "work in progress" stuff is crap. The team is worse than when he took over many years ago, two winning seasons in eight years (and one of them was befreo Snyder had time to cause any damage) and a record this year every bit as good as Spurrier's worst. Where is the progress?

Snyder's a tool.

Careful, even though all evidence points to the fact that all things are being done Snyder's way despite him not being the front man, Gibbs gets the blame for the way things are.

[akhhorus]

Careful, even though all evidence points to the fact that all things are being done Snyder's way despite him not being the front man, Gibbs gets the blame for the way things are.

Agreed, we can't have it both ways. Either its Gibbs or Snyder. You can claim that Gibbs was handed a franchise in shambles when he came in here, but only 4 starters remain who Gibbs didn't bring in(Samuels, Dock, Randy Thomas, Jansen).

And I would like to point out that Snyder's 7 years as owner have been more successful than the previous 7 years under the Cookes.

[dukeuch]

Careful, even though all evidence points to the fact that all things are being done Snyder's way despite him not being the front man, Gibbs gets the blame for the way things are.

Agreed. There is plenty of blame to go around.

[dukeuch]

Agreed, we can't have it both ways. Either its Gibbs or Snyder. You can claim that Gibbs was handed a franchise in shambles when he came in here, but only 4 starters remain who Gibbs didn't bring in(Samuels, Dock, Randy Thomas, Jansen).

And I would like to point out that Snyder's 7 years as owner have been more successful than the previous 7 years under the Cookes.

Yeah, by like one or two games. Big deal.

[akhhorus]

Yeah, by like one or two games. Big deal.

And 2 more playoff appearances, and only 1 more division title...no real difference I guess :rolleyes:

[Farmer Ted]

I like to point out to Broncos fans, that since Elway retired, the Skins have won twice as many playoff games as the Donkeys have. It's true.

[dukeuch]

And 2 more playoff appearances, and only 1 more division title...no real difference I guess :rolleyes:

Hmmm, how do you figure? Snyder's been owner since the 1999 season right? That's eight seasons; 1999 - 2006. So giving him credit for the division title in 1999 and one playoff win (which he had absolutely NOTHING to do with, not there long enough to screw anything up) the 'Skins have had two winning seasons, one division title, and two playoff wins. In the eight seasons prior (1991 -1998) the 'Skins had four winning seasons, a division title, a conference title, and only one more Super Bowl, and four playoff wins. If you see no difference...:rolleyes:

[akhhorus]

Hmmm, how do you figure? Snyder's been owner since the 1999 season right? That's eight seasons; 1999 - 2006. So giving him credit for the division title in 1999 and one playoff win (which he had absolutely NOTHING to do with, not there long enough to screw anything up) the 'Skins have had two winning seasons, one division title, and two playoff wins. In the eight seasons prior (1991 -1998) the 'Skins had four winning seasons, a division title, a conference title, and only one more Super Bowl, and four playoff wins. If you see no difference...:rolleyes:

I was counting 1992-1998 and 1999-2005. But if you want to skew things to make you feel better, whatever. Anyway you slice it, the Snyder years have been better than after Gibbs left the first time. Our expectations have been much higher for some reason.

[dukeuch]

I was counting 1992-1998 and 1999-2005. But if you want to skew things to make you feel better, whatever. Anyway you slice it, the Snyder years have been better than after Gibbs left the first time. Our expectations have been much higher for some reason.

How is it skewing things to compare the exact number of seasons the 'Skins have been under Snyder's control to the same number of years prior to his ownership? How is it appropriate to ignore the most recent, and perhaps worst, season of his tenure?

[akhhorus]

How is it skewing things to compare the exact number of seasons the 'Skins have been under Snyder's control to the same number of years prior to his ownership? How is it appropriate to ignore the most recent, and perhaps worst, season of his tenure?

I still count this season as going on, beginning of next year, it would be appropriate.

[wewantdallas]

I do give Snyder some credit for that 1999 year, simply because he told Norv Turner that if he didn't get it done, he was out. I think that lit a fire under Norv a bit. Snyder had intimated that he didn't want Norv, but he got the team too late to fire him.

What really troubles me about Snyder now, though, is that I thought for SURE he would've learned from the 2000 debacle with all the free agents. But apparently not. And he seems to have infected Gibbs with the same disease. Someone needs to perform an exorcism at Redskins Park and banish the Quick Fix Demon once and for all.

[shally]

Does not paint a pretty picture of our owner. What else is new?

link (http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/display.php?id=347&navCenterTop)

trash... people with an agenda

[shally]

I do give Snyder some credit for that 1999 year, simply because he told Norv Turner that if he didn't get it done, he was out. I think that lit a fire under Norv a bit. Snyder had intimated that he didn't want Norv, but he got the team too late to fire him.

What really troubles me about Snyder now, though, is that I thought for SURE he would've learned from the 2000 debacle with all the free agents. But apparently not. And he seems to have infected Gibbs with the same disease. Someone needs to perform an exorcism at Redskins Park and banish the Quick Fix Demon once and for all.

no... gibbs is of the same mind as snyder when it comes to free agents..
in that sense they are completely on the same page.. the only difference is that gibbs cares about character ( did no one check out lloyd ???) and snyder does not as long as the player produces...

[wewantdallas]

the only difference is that gibbs cares about character ( did no one check out lloyd ???) and snyder does not as long as the player produces...

I agree Gibbs cares more about character than Snyder, but I think he let way too much slide in that department this offseason. Personally, I think it's because of his age and his desire to get the team turned around fast. He took some chances that he shouldn't have. He decided to go for that trip down the "quick path" instead of building more slowly. He let too many good "no-names" go and gave up too much of our future building blocks for players that didn't work out at all.

This team needs to learn once and for all this offseason: you have to build from WITHIN the locker room before you start building from outside of it. Meaning you have to nurture that chemistry and carefully add to it when necessary, not blow up something good when you've got a great nucleus of a team, like they had last year.

Maybe all the offensive changes will end up paying dividends much quicker. I like how the offense has been working the last few weeks. But defensively, I see no light whatsoever at the end of that tunnel.

[shally]

I agree Gibbs cares more about character than Snyder, but I think he let way too much slide in that department this offseason. Personally, I think it's because of his age and his desire to get the team turned around fast. He took some chances that he shouldn't have. He decided to go for that trip down the "quick path" instead of building more slowly. He let too many good "no-names" go and gave up too much of our future building blocks for players that didn't work out at all.

This team needs to learn once and for all this offseason: you have to build from WITHIN the locker room before you start building from outside of it. Meaning you have to nurture that chemistry and carefully add to it when necessary, not blow up something good when you've got a great nucleus of a team, like they had last year.

Maybe all the offensive changes will end up paying dividends much quicker. I like how the offense has been working the last few weeks. But defensively, I see no light whatsoever at the end of that tunnel.

we need to get younger and more athletic on defense for certain.. also, note that other than JC, our top picks the past 3 years have all been on defense...

[dukeuch]

I still count this season as going on, beginning of next year, it would be appropriate.

Well, I'm just counting W/L's over the same number of seasons. I guarantee the 'Skins will not win any more games under Snyder's "leadership" between now and thr start of next season.