Skins Lady's First Ever Mock Draft

[skins lady]

This is the first time I've ever done one of these, they aren't easy things to do. I might make a second round or I might not.
Round 1
1. Oakland Raiders (Brady Quinn)
The Raiders are in desperate need of a QB. Brady Quinn might be the best QB in this year’s draft.
2. Detroit Lions (Jamarcus Russell)
Though John Kitna had a great season, the best of his career, he’s pretty old (34) and it might be time for a QB of the future in Detroit.
3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Calvin Johnson)
The Bucs’ star receiver is Joey Galloway who’s 35 years old. The other Bucs WR’s haven’t performed well. Gradkowski needs someone else to throw the ball to.
4. Cleveland Browns (Adrian Peterson)
Reuben Droughns has only had 2 seasons which he has had over 1000 rushing yards. This year he only put up 758 rushing yards in 14 games.
5. Arizona Cardinals (Joe Thomas)
The Cards have some great talent on offense but they can’t seem to get their running game going. They need a good run-blocker and Thomas is a great one.
6. Washington Redskins (Alan Branch)
The Skins didn’t get any pressure on the QB this year and Andre Carter only started to perform like we thought he would at the end of the season. They need a good run-stopper who can clog up the holes. Look for the Skins to draft Alan Branch or trade down for some more picks in the draft.
7. Minnesota Vikings (Dwayne Jarrett)
Jarrett proved himself in the Rose Bowl and therefore moved up in the draft. The Vikes can let a guy like this slip. Their best receiver this year was Travis Taylor who had a low 651 receiving yards this year.
8. Houston Texans (Sam Baker)
Carr needs to stop getting sacked and have some time to throw the football.
9. Miami Dolphins (Gaines Adams)
This is a steal at #9. The Dolphins starting DL is very old and has an average age of over 30.
10. Atlanta Falcons (Reggie Nelson)
Atlanta needs some secondary help.
11. San Francisco 49ers (Darrelle Revis)
Besides the great Walt Harris, the 49ers don’t really have a good CB.
12. Buffalo Bills (Brian Brohm)
J.P. Losman improved from last year but still wasn’t good enough to show that he can be a great QB.
13. St. Louis Rams (Quentin Moses)
The Rams also had some trouble getting pressure on the QB this year.
14. Carolina Panthers (Laron Landry)
Just what the Panthers are looking for, a young, hard-hitting safety.
15. Green Bay Packers (Marshawn Lynch)
It’s time for the Pack to find Ahman’s replacement.
16. Pittsburgh Steelers (Leon Hall)
Considered overrated by many and that’s why he drops to a #16 pick. The Steelers need to get some CB’s that can cover well.
17. Jacksonville Jaguars (Marcus McCauley)
The Jags need to improve their secondary.
18. Cincinnati Bengals (Quinn Pitcock)
The Bengals need to upgrade their DL to get more pressure on QB’s.
19. Tennessee Titans (Ted Ginn, Jr.)
Drew Bennett is a UFA this year and the Titans really don’t have any great WRs.
20. New York Giants (Jake Long)
The Giants might want to trade up for a good RB or trade down to get an average RB like Kenny Irons. In the first round, I can see them taking an OL to help protect Eli Manning.
21. Denver Broncos (Demarcus Tyler)
With the tragic loss of Darrent Williams, the Broncos might want to go with a CB here but there are none worth it at this pick. Therefore, I think they will take the best defensive player on the board. IMO, that would be Tyler.
22. New England (Michael Griffin)
Harrison was injured this season and is 34 years old; it’s time to find his replacement.
23. Dallas Cowboys (Justin Blalock)
Another steal late in the draft for the Cowboys. He’s one of the best guards in the draft.
24. Kansas City Chiefs (Amobe Okoye)
The Chiefs will probably go with OL or DL with this pick. Okoye is a great DT out of Louisville.
25. New Orleans Saints (Paul Posluszny)
The Saints were going to pick A.J. Hawk last year; they get a second chance this year with Posluszny.
26. Philadelphia Eagles (Patrick Willis)
A good LB that could do well for the Eagles. Willis is a steal at #26
27. New York Jets (Ray McDonald)
A great DE from Florida who will help the Jets get more pressure on QB’s.
28. New England Patriots (Jeff Simardzija)
This of course is if Simardzija commits to football. If not, then you might see them draft Sidney Rice.
29. Indianapolis Colts (Buster Davis)
Their replacement for Cato June if he doesn’t resign.
30. Baltimore Ravens (Levi Brown)
Brown is a great tackle from Penn State. He's someone the Ravens could use.
31. Chicago Bears (Zach Miller)
The Bears don’t really need to improve their defense much so I see them going with the offense in the first round. They will probably take a TE and if Olsen doesn’t declare, then they’ll take Zach Miller.
32. San Diego Chargers (Sidney Rice)
McCardell turns 37 on the January 6 and only had 437 receiving yards this season and Eric Parker is not a great WR either. The Chargers need to draft a WR.

Round 2
1. Oakland Raiders (Michael Bush)
Lamont Jordan isn’t doing anything for the Raiders.
2. Detroit Lions (Dwayne Bowe)
Detroit needs a #2 WR.
3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Victor Abiamiri)
With Simeon Rice likely to be gone, the Bucs need to find his replacement.
4. Cleveland Browns (Troy Smith)
Charley Frye had 10 TD’s and 17 INTs, that’s not very good. Besides, how could they pass on this hometown QB?
5. Arizona Cardinals (Rufus Alexander)
Alexander’s status climbed with his bowl performance. The Cardinals startings 2 OLBs didn’t have any INTs this year.
6. New York Jets (Kenny Irons)
They have some average RB’s but not one went over 1000 rushing yards this year. They are very lucky that they got our #2 pick.
7. Minnesota Vikings (Joe Staley)
Staley is a great tackle who could help strengthen the OL.
8. Houston Texans (Brian Leonard)
The Texans’ starting FB had 6 receptions for 61 yards and 0 rushing yards. Leonard could help that.
9. Miami Dolphins (Aaron Ross)
The Dolphins could definitely use some secondary help. Only two of there CB’s managed to get a pick this year.
10. Atlanta Falcons (Craig Davis)
The Falcons could use a WR that can catch.
11. San Francisco 49ers (Adam Carriker)
Carriker is a total monster DT from Nebraska. He’s 6’6”, 295 lbs.
12. Buffalo Bills (Lawrence Timmons)
Timmons is a great OLB from Florida State and the Bills really need an OLB.
13. St. Louis Rams (Arron Sears)
The Rams really need some OL help and Sears can play both OT and OG.
14. Carolina Panthers (Greg Olsen)
Olsen is a big steal this late and the Panthers really need a TE. Gaines, their starting TE, only had 146 receiving yards.
15. Pittsburgh Steelers (Lamarr Woodley)
The Steelers don’t have good starting DE’s. I don’t even no either of their names. Woodley is a good pick here and many mock drafts had him going earlier.
16. Green Bay Packers (Eric Weddle)
The Packers had some trouble in the secondary this season and they need a safety.
17. New York Giants (Tony Hunt)
They need an RB to take the place of Tiki. I’m still not convinced that Jacobs can be a starting RB.
18. Jacksonville Jaguars (Drew Stanton)
If Leftwich leaves, it’s almost a certainty that the Jags will take a QB in the draft.
19. Cincinnati Bengals (Antoine Cason)
The Bengals will probably go with a CB here and if Cason declares then he might be the choice.
20. Tennessee Titans (Charles Johnson)
The Titans desperately need a DE. They’re lucky that there are so many in the draft.
21. Seattle Seahawks (Brandon Meriweather)
The Seahawks could sure use some secondary help since their CB’s keep on getting injured.
22. Dallas Cowboys (Ryan Kalil)
Best Center on the board and many Cowboys fans want him too. They’ve been disappointed with Gurode.
23. Kansas City Chiefs (Josh Beekman)
Some OL help would be nice for the Chiefs.
24. Denver Broncos (Fred Bennett)
Hoping and wishing that he will be their replacement for Darrent Williams…he’s a hard one to replace.
25. New Orleans Saints (Ben Grubbs)
Grubbs will help open some holes for Reggie Bush.
26. Philadelphia Eagles (Aaron Rouse)
The Eagles find their replacement for Michael Lewis.
27. New York Jets (Jason Hill)
Hill is a strong, big WR who can get open.
28. New England Patriots (Daymeion Hughes)
If the Pats don’t resign Asante Samuels, then they really need to get another CB.
29. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Tim Crowder)
With the Bucs passing on Gaines Adams and taking Johnson as their first pick, they will need to take a DE now.
30. Baltimore Ravens (Trent Edwards)
With McNair approaching 34 years of age and Boller sucking every year, they’ll need to draft a QB just incase.
31. Chicago Bears (Earl Everett)
Hunter Hillenmeyer isn’t anything special, they need another OLB.
32. San Diego Chargers (John Wendling)
The Chargers don’t have any big glaring holes to fill so they might want to strengthen their secondary.

[akhhorus]

Good mock, but Long is staying in school and Sidney Rice almost certainly is also.

[skins lady]

Thanks and I didn't know that. I might edit it later on when the draft order is certain and the JRs declare.

Edit: I really like Alan Branch but I really like what Jarrett did yesterday too. I wish we could just pickup a DT in FA and draft Jarrett.

[akhhorus]

Thanks and I didn't know that. I might edit it later on when the draft order is certain and the JRs declare.

Edit: I really like Alan Branch but I really like what Jarrett did yesterday too. I wish we could just pickup a DT in FA and draft Jarrett.

Hmm..Only if we dumped Lloyd for something good and we address the defensive needs in FA, but I would still use that pick on a defender. Branch should be the priority, he's game changer at DT who will command double teams. Then Willis, then Hall, then one of the DEs IMO.

[skins lady]

The problem is that we really don't have a true #2 receiver. We can address all the other needs in FA because there are more great defensive players this year that are FAs. There aren't any #2 receivers though. If only we had never traded up for McIntosh and kept our 2nd rounder because then we could get Steve Smith. Shoulda Coulda Woulda...

[akhhorus]

The problem is that we really don't have a true #2 receiver. We can address all the other needs in FA because there are more great defensive players this year that are FAs. There aren't any #2 receivers though. If only we had never traded up for McIntosh and kept our 2nd rounder because then we could get Steve Smith. Shoulda Coulda Woulda...

Well, we need a Y WR-a bigger possession WR. Deyon Williams out of UVA will be there late in the draft, he's 6-3 200 and runs a 4.55. I have Smith as a 3-4th rounder right now.

[skins lady]

Well, we need a Y WR-a bigger possession WR. Deyon Williams out of UVA will be there late in the draft, he's 6-3 200 and runs a 4.55. I have Smith as a 3-4th rounder right now.
Do you think there is any possibility that we trade down to get a different DT (there are many good ones in the draft) and another 1st day pick?

[akhhorus]

Do you think there is any possibility that we trade down to get a different DT (there are many good ones in the draft) and another 1st day pick?

Sure, but unless the offer is huge, it will be hard to get the skins off of Branch. Maybe if Rice and Samardjia aren't in the draft and New England wants Jarret or Johnson badly enough to part with their 1sts and something else.

[CarMike]

Nice.

One quick question. why does everyone think we need another DT? I thought it was clear that we needed a young quick DE.

Care to explain yoselves? :)

[akhhorus]

Nice.

One quick question. why does everyone think we need another DT? I thought it was clear that we needed a young quick DE.

Care to explain yoselves? :)

Another DT isn't the top priority, but Branch would probably have more of a positive effect than Adams or Moses.

[fent]

Nice.

One quick question. why does everyone think we need another DT? I thought it was clear that we needed a young quick DE.

Care to explain yoselves? :)

if we sit at 6 and Branch is there, there isn't value for one of the DEs. And if we're honest with ourselves, Griffin isn't going to be around many more seasons. With the number of young DEs in FA this year, we can address that there and get a beast to clog the middle with Golston for the next 10 seasons.

[skins lady]

Nice.

One quick question. why does everyone think we need another DT? I thought it was clear that we needed a young quick DE.

Care to explain yoselves? :)
Golston isn't much more than a #2 DT at best. Griffin is getting old and only had 1 sack last year. Andre Carter was great at the end of the season, but Daniels was terrible all season. The reason we probably won't draft a DE though is because there are so many great DE's on the FA market including names like Dwight Freeney, Jared Allen (RFA), and Justin Smith. It would probably be a better bet to go with a DE in free agency and a DT in the draft.

[CarMike]

Now thats service! :D

I agree. You guys gave me yet another question.

Where was Merriman rated coming out of college? I know he went like #10 or something. But don't you guys think that a couple of those teams that passed on him wish they had drafted him? [without the 'roids ofcourse]

[skins lady]

Now thats service! :D

I agree. You guys gave me yet another question.

Where was Merriman rated coming out of college? I know he went like #10 or something. But don't you guys think that a couple of those teams that passed on him wish they had drafted him? [without the 'roids ofcourse]
A lot of mock drafts had him going around 10-15.

[The Game]

I like the pick of brady. It will come down to brady, calvin or adrian peterson.

[CarMike]

A lot of mock drafts had him going around 10-15.
Alright. My point being is that if you need a DE at #6, and one is there, why not draft him even if he wasn't projected to go that high? I know Arizona has done this before and it didn't pan out. Now that I think about it, I don't think our FO would get it right either...

[skins lady]

Yeah, I was considering going with Calvin in the 1st and taking a QB like Troy Smith in the 2nd. It all comes down to whether or not Moss is released.
Alright. My point being is that if you need a DE at #6, and one is there, why not draft him even if he wasn't projected to go that high? I know Arizona has done this before and it didn't pan out. Now that I think about it, I don't think our FO would get it right either...
We need a DT just as bad as we need a DT. If I had to choose between Branch and Adams than I would choose Branch.

[akhhorus]

Now thats service! :D

I agree. You guys gave me yet another question.

Where was Merriman rated coming out of college? I know he went like #10 or something. But don't you guys think that a couple of those teams that passed on him wish they had drafted him? [without the 'roids ofcourse]

Merriman was rated as a top DE, but he did mysteriously jump from 250-275 lbs in the 2 months before the draft.

[akhhorus]

Alright. My point being is that if you need a DE at #6, and one is there, why not draft him even if he wasn't projected to go that high? I know Arizona has done this before and it didn't pan out. Now that I think about it, I don't think our FO would get it right either...

There's no DE in this draft who has shown they are remotely worthy of a top 6 pick. Adams and Moses have major questions about them.

I like the pick of brady. It will come down to brady, calvin or adrian peterson.

If they don't take Quinn, the Raiders should be demoted to NFL Europe. Calvin Johnson makes sense...if Randy Moss, Curry and Porter all die in a bus crash. Adrian Peterson will be useless if they have the same basic Oline(and before you say you'll sign FA Olinemen, Arizona and Buffalo needs Olinemen too and they have over 38 million in cap room each, and there isn't that many quality Olinemen out there in FA).

[MWballer]

Good Mock!!

I think Rueben Droughns and J. Harrison(who they jus drafted las year) get another year in CLE and I think Crennel is eyeing Branch hope not but Branch would fit as an anchor on his DLine...For our sake hopefully not but it does make a lot of sense.

JP Losman will most likely get another shot in Buffalo he showed some potential this season!!

[skins lady]

Thanks for all the feedback guys, I'm currently making the second round and it will be done by the end of the week hopefully.

[oldskinfan]

Don't know much about Jamarcus Russell and have not seen him play, but is this guy that good to take #2?

[akhhorus]

Don't know much about Jamarcus Russell and have not seen him play, but is this guy that good to take #2?

Watch him tonight in the Sugar Bowl going against Brady Quinn. If he has a great game and Quinn is subpar, Russel might leapfrog him to the #1 spot.

[skins lady]

Just finished Round 2, it was a little easier than the first round.
Round 2
1. Oakland Raiders (Michael Bush)
Lamont Jordan isn’t doing anything for the Raiders.
2. Detroit Lions (Dwayne Bowe)
Detroit needs a #2 WR.
3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Victor Abiamiri)
With Simeon Rice likely to be gone, the Bucs need to find his replacement.
4. Cleveland Browns (Troy Smith)
Charley Frye had 10 TD’s and 17 INTs, that’s not very good. Besides, how could they pass on this hometown QB?
5. Arizona Cardinals (Rufus Alexander)
Alexander’s status climbed with his bowl performance. The Cardinals startings 2 OLBs didn’t have any INTs this year.
6. New York Jets (Kenny Irons)
They have some average RB’s but not one went over 1000 rushing yards this year. They are very lucky that they got our #2 pick.
7. Minnesota Vikings (Joe Staley)
Staley is a great tackle who could help strengthen the OL.
8. Houston Texans (Brian Leonard)
The Texans’ starting FB had 6 receptions for 61 yards and 0 rushing yards. Leonard could help that.
9. Miami Dolphins (Aaron Ross)
The Dolphins could definitely use some secondary help. Only two of there CB’s managed to get a pick this year.
10. Atlanta Falcons (Craig Davis)
The Falcons could use a WR that can catch.
11. San Francisco 49ers (Adam Carriker)
Carriker is a total monster DT from Nebraska. He’s 6’6”, 295 lbs.
12. Buffalo Bills (Lawrence Timmons)
Timmons is a great OLB from Florida State and the Bills really need an OLB.
13. St. Louis Rams (Arron Sears)
The Rams really need some OL help and Sears can play both OT and OG.
14. Carolina Panthers (Greg Olsen)
Olsen is a big steal this late and the Panthers really need a TE. Gaines, their starting TE, only had 146 receiving yards.
15. Pittsburgh Steelers (Lamarr Woodley)
The Steelers don’t have good starting DE’s. I don’t even no either of their names. Woodley is a good pick here and many mock drafts had him going earlier.
16. Green Bay Packers (Eric Weddle)
The Packers had some trouble in the secondary this season and they need a safety.
17. New York Giants (Tony Hunt)
They need an RB to take the place of Tiki. I’m still not convinced that Jacobs can be a starting RB.
18. Jacksonville Jaguars (Drew Stanton)
If Leftwich leaves, it’s almost a certainty that the Jags will take a QB in the draft.
19. Cincinnati Bengals (Antoine Cason)
The Bengals will probably go with a CB here and if Cason declares then he might be the choice.
20. Tennessee Titans (Charles Johnson)
The Titans desperately need a DE. They’re lucky that there are so many in the draft.
21. Seattle Seahawks (Brandon Meriweather)
The Seahawks could sure use some secondary help since their CB’s keep on getting injured.
22. Dallas Cowboys (Ryan Kalil)
Best Center on the board and many Cowboys fans want him too. They’ve been disappointed with Gurode.
23. Kansas City Chiefs (Josh Beekman)
Some OL help would be nice for the Chiefs.
24. Denver Broncos (Fred Bennett)
Hoping and wishing that he will be their replacement for Darrent Williams…he’s a hard one to replace.
25. New Orleans Saints (Ben Grubbs)
Grubbs will help open some holes for Reggie Bush.
26. Philadelphia Eagles (Aaron Rouse)
The Eagles find their replacement for Michael Lewis.
27. New York Jets (Jason Hill)
Hill is a strong, big WR who can get open.
28. New England Patriots (Daymeion Hughes)
If the Pats don’t resign Asante Samuels, then they really need to get another CB.
29. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Tim Crowder)
With the Bucs passing on Gaines Adams and taking Johnson as their first pick, they will need to take a DE now.
30. Baltimore Ravens (Trent Edwards)
With McNair approaching 34 years of age and Boller sucking every year, they’ll need to draft a QB just incase.
31. Chicago Bears (Earl Everett)
Hunter Hillenmeyer isn’t anything special, they need another OLB.
32. San Diego Chargers (John Wendling)
The Chargers don’t have any big glaring holes to fill so they might want to strengthen their secondary.

[akhhorus]

Pretty good 2nd round, just have some issues with these.

Just finished Round 2, it was a little easier than the first round.
Round 2
1. Oakland Raiders (Michael Bush)
Lamont Jordan isn’t doing anything for the Raiders.

Agreed, they might go after a new RB, and as BAD as the Raiders are up and down as a franchise--they won't pass on an Olineman unless they sign 4 new ones in free agency.

2. Detroit Lions (Dwayne Bowe)
Detroit needs a #2 WR.

If they lose Furrey in free agency. He was a 1000 yard WR this season. They need a RB more than a WR.

15. Pittsburgh Steelers (Lamarr Woodley)
The Steelers don’t have good starting DE’s. I don’t even no either of their names. Woodley is a good pick here and many mock drafts had him going earlier.

Smith and Kiesel and they think a lot of both apparently. Especially Smith. Woodley would be a steal here, but he's a 3-4 LB and they are full at that position imo. Carriker would be a better fit in the 3-4 IMO

18. Jacksonville Jaguars (Drew Stanton)
If Leftwich leaves, it’s almost a certainty that the Jags will take a QB in the draft.

Maybe. They like Garrard and Grey. Del Rio is on thin ice and doesn't want to be trying to break in a rookie QB and try and save his job also.

21. Seattle Seahawks (Brandon Meriweather)
The Seahawks could sure use some secondary help since their CB’s keep on getting injured.

When healthy than are loaded at Cb, and Merriweather is a FS.

25. New Orleans Saints (Ben Grubbs)
Grubbs will help open some holes for Reggie Bush.

They have a great Oline and need defensive help in the worse way.

26. Philadelphia Eagles (Aaron Rouse)
The Eagles find their replacement for Michael Lewis.

Possible, but they benched Lewis half the time at SS for Considine. Rouse is good value here, but LB and DT(since Bunkley couldn't suck enough) are targets.

27. New York Jets (Jason Hill)
Hill is a strong, big WR who can get open.

Also possible, but they need CB and Oline help. TE would be another place to go here.

[skins lady]

Pretty good 2nd round, just have some issues with these.



Agreed, they might go after a new RB, and as BAD as the Raiders are up and down as a franchise--they won't pass on an Olineman unless they sign 4 new ones in free agency.



If they lose Furrey in free agency. He was a 1000 yard WR this season. They need a RB more than a WR.



Smith and Kiesel and they think a lot of both apparently. Especially Smith. Woodley would be a steal here, but he's a 3-4 LB and they are full at that position imo. Carriker would be a better fit in the 3-4 IMO



Maybe. They like Garrard and Grey. Del Rio is on thin ice and doesn't want to be trying to break in a rookie QB and try and save his job also.



When healthy than are loaded at Cb, and Merriweather is a FS.



They have a great Oline and need defensive help in the worse way.



Possible, but they benched Lewis half the time at SS for Considine. Rouse is good value here, but LB and DT(since Bunkley couldn't suck enough) are targets.



Also possible, but they need CB and Oline help. TE would be another place to go here.
Thanks for the post. I don't think there are any OL that would be worth the Raiders pick.
I was assuming that Furrey is lost in FA.
You're right about Pitt, Carriker would probably be a better fit.
What happens if neither QB plays well in Jacksonville? I think they draft a QB here just incase Garrard and Grey are bums.
Yes, the Seahawks are loaded at CB but when they are all injured, their safeties don't play well either.
Agree with you on Philly, they'll definately go defense either way.
I think the Jets will fix their CB needs during FA.

[akhhorus]

Thanks for the post. I don't think there are any OL that would be worth the Raiders pick.
I was assuming that Furrey is lost in FA.
You're right about Pitt, Carriker would probably be a better fit.
What happens if neither QB plays well in Jacksonville? I think they draft a QB here just incase Garrard and Grey are bums.
Yes, the Seahawks are loaded at CB but when they are all injured, their safeties don't play well either.
Agree with you on Philly, they'll definately go defense either way.
I think the Jets will fix their CB needs during FA.

In order:
-Staley, Harris or Sears would be good fits for them. Maybe Josh Beekman.
-Then thats a big possibility.
-Yeah. They need secondary help too.
-I could see them signing a vet like Brad Johnson instead of a rookie.
-I could see them moving Herndon to FS if Hamlin leaves. Or dangling Boulware for a more traditional FS.
-Yep.
-Possible, but there isn't much in FA that would constitute an upgrade over Dyson and Miller.

[FanFromArizona]

if we sit at 6 and Branch is there, there isn't value for one of the DEs. And if we're honest with ourselves, Griffin isn't going to be around many more seasons. With the number of young DEs in FA this year, we can address that there and get a beast to clog the middle with Golston for the next 10 seasons.


Allright, I think this post is the springboard I will use to ask this question:

When do we need to find Griffin's replacement? This draft or next?

I agree, if we are sitting at #6, to go after Branch.

However, is our need greater for a DT or DE this year if we are NOT sitting at #6?

I'll throw this out to see what everyone offers.

And the second question, which DLine would you prefer to see:

A. Carter, Golston, Griffin, <drafted DE> + another pick

-or-

B. Carter, Branch, Griffin, Daniels/FA signing

I think most people here seem to want letter B. I personally would like to see A.
And please remember the beast DE signing and the cap ramifications, given that, who should we target and sign.

[skins lady]

Allright, I think this post is the springboard I will use to ask this question:

When do we need to find Griffin's replacement? This draft or next?

I agree, if we are sitting at #6, to go after Branch.

However, is our need greater for a DT or DE this year if we are NOT sitting at #6?

I'll throw this out to see what everyone offers.

And the second question, which DLine would you prefer to see:

A. Carter, Golston, Griffin, <drafted DE> + another pick

-or-

B. Carter, Branch, Griffin, Daniels/FA signing

I think most people here seem to want letter B. I personally would like to see A.
And please remember the beast DE signing and the cap ramifications, given that, who should we target and sign.
I would take B with the assumption that we go out and get a DE off the market. Dwight Freeney will probably cost too much but there are many other good DE's on the market.

[oldskinfan]

Watch him tonight in the Sugar Bowl going against Brady Quinn. If he has a great game and Quinn is subpar, Russel might leapfrog him to the #1 spot.

Boy Akh, you weren't kidding. Did not realize he was 6' 6" and 260 lbs - and pretty darn mobile at that.

I think he seems like a poor man's Vince Young. If he were to come out, I'd have to say it's almost a toss-up between him and Brady Quinn as the 1st QB. Sort of like who would you rather have, Leinart, or Young?

One question about J.R. apparently is until recently he has been very inconsistent, and he did chuck it up for grabs on a few throws last night... but what an arm!

I hope he *does* come out cuz' that's likely one more offensive player drafter before we get to #6 and gives us a better shot at best available defensive player.

[danny's stogie]

Boy Akh, you weren't kidding. Did not realize he was 6' 6" and 260 lbs - and pretty darn mobile at that.

I think he seems like a poor man's Vince Young. If he were to come out, I'd have to say it's almost a toss-up between him and Brady Quinn as the 1st QB. Sort of like who would you rather have, Leinart, or Young?

One question about J.R. apparently is until recently he has been very inconsistent, and he did chuck it up for grabs on a few throws last night... but what an arm!

I hope he *does* come out cuz' that's likely one more offensive player drafter before we get to #6 and gives us a better shot at best available defensive player.

A poor man's VY? In the long run I'd much rather have Russell. He's young and raw, but he throws a much better ball.

I think in the end Russell goes #1. He's too sexy a player for Al Davis to pass on. Quinn is too solid and steady and I think by the time of the draft he'll be nit-picked so much that no one will remember how talented and prepared he is i.e, get Leinharted.

[akhhorus]

Boy Akh, you weren't kidding. Did not realize he was 6' 6" and 260 lbs - and pretty darn mobile at that.

I think he seems like a poor man's Vince Young. If he were to come out, I'd have to say it's almost a toss-up between him and Brady Quinn as the 1st QB. Sort of like who would you rather have, Leinart, or Young?

One question about J.R. apparently is until recently he has been very inconsistent, and he did chuck it up for grabs on a few throws last night... but what an arm!

I hope he *does* come out cuz' that's likely one more offensive player drafter before we get to #6 and gives us a better shot at best available defensive player.

Russell is LIGHT YEARS ahead of Young as a QB. Campbell might be a good comparison for Russell.

[Meatsnack]

It's funny about Russell, though. He has had some pretty medicre games but when I watch him I am always blown away by his arm. I wonder how much of the facsination with Russell s just the natural tendency to marvel at the guy's physical gift for chucking the rock. I agree that he more polished as a final product than Young and has a better grasp of QB play. I worry, though, that Russell's accuracy has never been very good. As a GM I would be too afraid of that to take him in the top 10. But then, as conservative as I am about QB's I really like Brohm over Russell. In fact, I like Brohm as the #1 Qb in this draft but I am looney in lots of ways. ;)

[3644Skins]

Russell is LIGHT YEARS ahead of Young as a QB. Campbell might be a good comparison for Russell.


Not to change the subject but did Vince Young do anything to change your mind about him this season? You were pretty harsh on him before he got drafted.

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It's funny about Russell, though. He has had some pretty medicre games but when I watch him I am always blown away by his arm. I wonder how much of the facsination with Russell s just the natural tendency to marvel at the guy's physical gift for chucking the rock. I agree that he more polished as a final product than Young and has a better grasp of QB play. I worry, though, that Russell's accuracy has never been very good. As a GM I would be too afraid of that to take him in the top 10. But then, as conservative as I am about QB's I really like Brohm over Russell. In fact, I like Brohm as the #1 Qb in this draft but I am looney in lots of ways. ;)

Russell is very accurate. He has a 69 percent completion percentage best for 5th in the nation and a 168.1 rating good for third. That was against mostly the SEC. Not quite Army and Navy, but still pretty good. Its hard not to be impressed with Russell because of his size and arm strength. He'll really shine in the individual workouts.

I like Troy Smith myself but apperently he's only 4 feet tall, so that might scare some GM's away.

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Not to change the subject but did Vince Young do anything to change your mind about him this season? You were pretty harsh on him before he got drafted.

i can answer this in his absence. it's a resounding no for both of us. go read the discussion on the Offensive ROY and you'll see ;)

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Not to change the subject but did Vince Young do anything to change your mind about him this season? You were pretty harsh on him before he got drafted.

Nope. He's still the same flawed QB, he's still the same immature jerk(read the Tennessean article on him) and he did nothing to disprove what I said about him. I grant that he looked good in 2 games(2nd houston and Buffalo), but whenever he's played a good defense(jacksonville, Dallas, Philly, New England), he looks like total crap. And before you point out the Giants game, he got bailed out by two things: a horrendous personal foul which bailed out Tenn on 4th down and Kiwi's brain fart. If he stops running and starts working on his passing(and knowing he still has tons to learn in the NFL), he has the ability to be a good Qb. However, I think he'll go the Vick route and think he has the NFL figured out and not have to work on things.

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i can answer this in his absence. it's a resounding no for both of us. go read the discussion on the Offensive ROY and you'll see ;)


Okay, I'll check it out, thanks...can't wait to read why.

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Nope. He's still the same flawed QB, he's still the same immature jerk(read the Tennessean article on him) and he did nothing to disprove what I said about him. I grant that he looked good in 2 games(2nd houston and Buffalo), but whenever he's played a good defense(jacksonville, Dallas, Philly, New England), he looks like total crap. And before you point out the Giants game, he got bailed out by two things: a horrendous personal foul which bailed out Tenn on 4th down and Kiwi's brain fart. If he stops running and starts working on his passing(and knowing he still has tons to learn in the NFL), he has the ability to be a good Qb. However, I think he'll go the Vick route and think he has the NFL figured out and not have to work on things.

Oh I wouldn't have used the Giants game anyway, I was just wondering. I thought maybe his win/loss record might have have swayed you into his corner or something. One thing I don't like is how they're already touting him as the next big thing, yeah they won but his numbers and play weren't the main reason, I would say the running of Travis Henry helped just as much if not more.

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Oh I wouldn't have used the Giants game anyway, I was just wondering. I thought maybe his win/loss record might have have swayed you into his corner or something. One thing I don't like is how they're already touting him as the next big thing, yeah they won but his numbers and play weren't the main reason, I would say the running of Travis Henry helped just as much if not more.

The wins would be evidence if he was the reason they did win. You can make that case for the Buffalo and 2nd houston games. But for the rest of them, i don't think you can--in fact i would say that they won despite Young in some of them. Henry was amazing this year and was the real reason they did well. I have a feeling that Young will look at his highlight reel and say to himself: "i got this league figured out, why should I spend 8 hours a day doing film work and practicing". And he'll crash and burn as a player as defenses figure him out.

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Russell is very accurate. He has a 69 percent completion percentage best for 5th in the nation and a 168.1 rating good for third. That was against mostly the SEC. Not quite Army and Navy, but still pretty good. Its hard not to be impressed with Russell because of his size and arm strength. He'll really shine in the individual workouts.

I like Troy Smith myself but apperently he's only 4 feet tall, so that might scare some GM's away.
Holy cow. You're right. I never noticed how he had progressed in his three years at LSU. He had one down game this year below 60% and the rest were very good to amazing. I guess my impression, formed over years of SEC watching and being a Tide fan, was way out of whack on him. A guy who can throw 85 yards and completes 70% of his passes? TD/Int ration of 28/8? Eek. How does the Notre Dame kid come off the board ahead of Russell?