Prioleau ACL update

[danny's stogie]

Redskins | Prioleau's return still uncertain
Wed, 17 Jan 2007 21:51:25 -0800

Gary Fitzgerald, of Redskins.com, reports Washington Redskins S Pierson Prioleau (knee) is unsure when he will be able to return to the practice fields this spring. Prioleau suffered a torn ACL in his right knee on the opening kickoff of the team's Week 1 game. "It's tough to say. I could be ready for the off-season workouts. It'll be up to the trainers as to how much they allow me to do. The smart thing to do is just work my way back into it until it's ready to go," Prioleau said. He said he can feel the strength returning in his knee as he starts to jog again. He hopes he will be back to full strength for the start of OTAs in May and June, as well as the June minicamp.

It might be time to either coach Arch up or to find another safety. It sounds like he'll be back for mincamp, but with the long recovery process who knows if he'll be full speed this season.

[Red Bear]

seeing as how he got hurt in week 1 i think he had a lot of time to recover for the 2007 season that guys who get hurt later in the season dont have

[SpicyMcHaggis]

It might be time to either coach Arch up or to find another safety. It sounds like he'll be back for mincamp, but with the long recovery process who knows if he'll be full speed this season.
Well, one thing is for sure..seeing the disaster that his injury apparently caused, it would be extremely dumb to not have a backup plan in case he is not 100% healthy next season.

[shally]

It might be time to either coach Arch up or to find another safety. It sounds like he'll be back for mincamp, but with the long recovery process who knows if he'll be full speed this season.

cautionary tale for those who think that recovery from acl surgery is routine and under 1 year..

hopefully he willbe okay eventually, but when that will be is uncertain

[smoak]

We really missed him last season and I hope he returns 100%!

[shally]

It might be time to either coach Arch up or to find another safety. It sounds like he'll be back for mincamp, but with the long recovery process who knows if he'll be full speed this season.


yup.. we better have a plan B for 2007

[danny's stogie]

Well, one thing is for sure..seeing the disaster that his injury apparently caused, it would be extremely dumb to not have a backup plan in case he is not 100% healthy next season.

Well, the first disaster was not recognizing that Arch can't cover, but yeah, they missed him badly. I don't think we'd be cooing about Clark if PP played last year.

[shally]

We really missed him last season and I hope he returns 100%!


the best guess is that he should be okay--eventually.. the timing is what is unknown

[shally]

Well, the first disaster was not recognizing that Arch can't cover, but yeah, they missed him badly. I don't think we'd be cooing about Clark if PP played last year.


which makes rod woodson's return in the same season even more amazing.
he wasnt the same player until the following year, but still, to even get that much return is off the charts

[danny's stogie]

the best guess is that he should be okay--eventually.. the timing is what is unknown

Shally, I know it's a world of difference having a 300 pound Olineman tear an ACL and have reduced lateral mobility because of it, but do you think it will affect PP the same way for the rest of his career?

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Well, the first disaster was not recognizing that Arch can't cover, but yeah, they missed him badly. I don't think we'd be cooing about Clark if PP played last year.
Well, the scouting department only had 72 games (+ playoffs) worth of game tape on him, so it's understandable that he was kind of a mistery...

[shally]

Shally, I know it's a world of difference having a 300 pound Olineman tear an ACL and have reduced lateral mobility because of it, but do you think it will affect PP the same way for the rest of his career?

cannot say with certainty because i have zero inside information.. but.. others at safety have made it back fully so my guess is that he should be okay..even cromartie came back as a corner from this injury and he looked okay this past week.. so the answer is, in most cases, expect a full recovery.

the question is whether it is next year or by 2008.. it took "edge" a full year past his recovery date to return to pre injury level

[SkinsfaninNJ]

Spicey and Shally have the right idea. If he comes back, great, but let's have a plan B so that his coming back is only gravy.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Spicey and Shally have the right idea. If he comes back, great, but let's have a plan B so that his coming back is only gravy.
That is almost always the case. ;)

[danny's stogie]

cannot say with certainty because i have zero inside information.. but.. others at safety have made it back fully so my guess is that he should be okay..even cromartie came back as a corner from this injury and he looked okay this past week.. so the answer is, in most cases, expect a full recovery.

the question is whether it is next year or by 2008.. it took "edge" a full year past his recovery date to return to pre injury level

Cromartie looks fantastic physically. If he continues to work on his technique he could eventual make the media stop their deion sandersfying of Champ.

[danny's stogie]

Spicey and Shally have the right idea. If he comes back, great, but let's have a plan B so that his coming back is only gravy.

Hey, my idea first!!!!!!

[shally]

Cromartie looks fantastic physically. If he continues to work on his technique he could eventual make the media stop their deion sandersfying of Champ.

man, i liked him last year...nothing he has done this year has made me think any less of him.. he went earlier than i thought he would, but in retrospect, it was where he deserved to go.

he should be a great one..

[shally]

Hey, my idea first!!!!!!


yup.. you get credit for the first comment on this concept..

[skinsfan36]

i think a good plan b would be going after mike doss in free agency.pp then can still be great dime back like he was in 05.

[RedskinRyan]

i think a good plan b would be going after mike doss in free agency.pp then can still be great dime back like he was in 05.

doss will probably command more money than we are willing to shell out for a player of his caliber, but is also smaller than the typical size that williams likes his secondary.

[redskin_rich]

A plan B..?

Brilliant!!!
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/9988/brilliantvq6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[shally]

i think a good plan b would be going after mike doss in free agency.pp then can still be great dime back like he was in 05.

does he not have some off field issues ?

[SkinsfaninNJ]

I also think Doss will be too expensive. There has to be someone out there that has speed and can actually make a tackle at a reasonable price.

[AliBabba]

yep ... http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/8517232/rss

[shally]

yep ... http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/8517232/rss

sounds like he would be just a perfect compliment for taylor.. perhaps doss can advise him on proper ways to line up in formation and appropiate firearms selections:rolleyes:

[CarMike]

His injury effected the Redskins more than any other player this year, IMO. It changed just about everything we had to do on defense.

[BIGSEF3]

i agree. AA may have had a great year if he had been able to have been used the way GW wanted. If we have to cut AA in the offseason, Prioleau's injury has that much more long-term financial impact.

On the flip-side....
in hindsight, and under the assumption we wouldnt have made the playoffs anyway, the Portis injury turned out to be a blessing in disguise. We got to see what Betts could do and were able to sign him to an extension for next year. I imagine Saunders is salivating at what he can do with a healthy portis AND Betts on the field at the same time.

[shally]

His injury effected the Redskins more than any other player this year, IMO. It changed just about everything we had to do on defense.


you are right.. you think they will let him play ST's next year ?
and do we still want taylor on coverage teams as well ?

[danny's stogie]

A plan B..?

Brilliant!!!
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/9988/brilliantvq6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Well, technically, Arch was plan A. Plan B was Prioleau. Plan C was find some dude off the street and play cover 2.

[shally]

Well, technically, Arch was plan A. Plan B was Prioleau. Plan C was find some dude off the street and play cover 2.
C... vincent

D... fox...

[The_Sonny_Of_Sammy]

The Redskins were lucky that the secondary stepped in and up and didn't miss a beat after his injury.:doh:

[redwolf1218]

i hope he comes back strong, but i really hope they draft a strong safety. i've been advocating that for years to no avail.

at certain positions, there will be a run of draft picks. once a premium DE is taken, several will follow. same with D tackles, corners, receivers, linebackers, etc...

but who drafts a strong safety? we dont have many picks, but later in the draft, there should be some good guys at a few unheralded positions, like strong safety, and possibly guard and center.

i'd love to see them take a great strong safety to pair up with Taylor down the road. i'm not sure if Fox, Arch, Doughty, or Vincent is the answer. Doughty and Fox are okay as backups, Vincent is good but over the hill and brittle, and Arch should probably be playing linebacker.

[shally]

i hope he comes back strong, but i really hope they draft a strong safety. i've been advocating that for years to no avail.

at certain positions, there will be a run of draft picks. once a premium DE is taken, several will follow. same with D tackles, corners, receivers, linebackers, etc...

but who drafts a strong safety? we dont have many picks, but later in the draft, there should be some good guys at a few unheralded positions, like strong safety, and possibly guard and center.

i'd love to see them take a great strong safety to pair up with Taylor down the road. i'm not sure if Fox, Arch, Doughty, or Vincent is the answer. Doughty and Fox are okay as backups, Vincent is good but over the hill and brittle, and Arch should probably be playing linebacker.

we do not know what we have in doughty-- other than he seems to play good special teams.. hopefully he gets a chance to make progress and become a defensive player as well this year..

[ChiefPowhatan17]

We desperately need Pierson back on the field.

[RedskinRyan]

we do not know what we have in doughty-- other than he seems to play good special teams.. hopefully he gets a chance to make progress and become a defensive player as well this year..

i dunno much about him, but talk around here makes me think of him as a poor man's adam arculeta, which doesnt help him much. he didnt exactly shine in preseason either. but lets see what year 2 is like for him.

[meloveskinslongtime]

acls are tough to get over .... i had mine operated on in may and it still feels weird. granted i didnt get anywhere near the treatment that he got, or put in as much work in rehab. its still a tricky surgery to get over. ur entire leg as to go through so much rehab. the doctor's said that the quads take a long time (depending on each individual) to get over ... sometimes going on 18 months. hopefully he wont have that problem.

i think he will be fine but we should be looking at some quality depth regardless

[redwolf1218]

everyone says it's the 2nd year back after an injury like this, when a player can return to top form. at least Prioleau's injury happened in the first game to allow him a lot of recovery time.

http://www.couchscout.com/skin.htm

according to that site, where the guy compiles the latest height, weight and 40 times as accurately as he can keep up with it, Fox and Doughty are the slowest of the defensive backs.

on a side note, Holdman is conspicuously slow as well.

Prioleau is small, but he has good speed and he knows the system well.