Kiffin to take the Raiders job [Archive] - hailRedskins.com Fan Board

akhhorus

01-22-2007, 07:44 PM

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And the honor guard buries young Kiffin's career.

LATrueRedskin

01-22-2007, 07:46 PM

What are the Raiders doing?

RedskinRyan

01-22-2007, 07:47 PM

What are the Raiders doing?

? what is kiffin doing?

rskinsfan10

01-22-2007, 07:51 PM

I'm surprised that they didn't go after Monte personally.

LadyNRedskinsfan

01-22-2007, 07:55 PM

death by desperation.......

PyroGenic

01-22-2007, 07:59 PM

wow... nobody really wanted that job...

Lavar703

01-22-2007, 07:59 PM

? what is kiffin doing?

My thoughts exactly

lakeskin

01-22-2007, 09:31 PM

A lot of USC fans will be happy to see him go. He drew alot of criticism this year for his inept and inconsitent playcalling.

rskinsfan10

01-22-2007, 09:42 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2739645

ryflan47

01-22-2007, 09:44 PM

Time to embarrass the family name.

SkinsASchamps

01-22-2007, 09:49 PM

31 years old. Al davis is brilliant. :rolleyes:

danny's stogie

01-22-2007, 10:01 PM

I'm pretty sure I was invited to his bar mitzvah last year.

LATrueRedskin

01-22-2007, 10:03 PM

He's 31 years old? Wow. I don't see any veteran player playing hard for this guy. Randy Moss is 30 years old.

schmitty199

01-22-2007, 10:06 PM

God have mercy on him...

LATrueRedskin

01-22-2007, 10:11 PM

I just saw that 7 players on the Raiders are older than Kiffin. Wow. There are 16 Redskins on the roster that are older than Kiffin.

CNYSkinFan

01-22-2007, 11:12 PM

Ok all these guys are becoming HCs at young 30s and I am older then most now....WTH. I am starting to feel old and I can't even imagine what Shally is feeling.

SkinsfaninNJ

01-22-2007, 11:20 PM

This guy has about as good a resume as our newly promoted LB coach.

shally

01-22-2007, 11:27 PM

He's 31 years old? Wow. I don't see any veteran player playing hard for this guy. Randy Moss is 30 years old.

randy will be playing elsewhere next year.. along with quite a few others.. the purge will begin shortly..

shally

01-22-2007, 11:28 PM

Ok all these guys are becoming HCs at young 30s and I am older then most now....WTH. I am starting to feel old and I can't even imagine what Shally is feeling.

shally is starting to feel like the raiders are a solid bet to become the nfl's first 0-16 team next season

The Game

01-23-2007, 01:44 AM

This is a great hire on the raiders part seeing as he to me was the better of the two that we offerd the job too. Id take kiffin over all the retreads out there and most on the market.

PyroGenic

01-23-2007, 01:51 AM

This is a great hire on the raiders part seeing as he to me was the better of the two that we offerd the job too. Id take kiffin over all the retreads out there and most on the market.

you really think he's ready to become the HC of an NFL team?

shally

01-23-2007, 01:55 AM

This is a great hire on the raiders part seeing as he to me was the better of the two that we offerd the job too. Id take kiffin over all the retreads out there and most on the market.

not even close to being in the league with guys like russ grimm, ron rivera, ron meeks (he will be next years hot def coordinator), jason garrett

if you wanted a fresh face, those were the guys al should have looked at. this is in the class of the todd marinovich pick.. a head scratchingly bad selection..

0-16, baby, 0-16....

SpicyMcHaggis

01-23-2007, 02:09 AM

God have mercy on him...
Too late for that..

shally

01-23-2007, 02:31 AM

Too late for that..

not much joy in the black hole tonight

now, all they have to do is trade away their draft to get vick

The Game

01-23-2007, 03:38 AM

not even close to being in the league with guys like russ grimm, ron rivera, ron meeks (he will be next years hot def coordinator), jason garrett

if you wanted a fresh face, those were the guys al should have looked at. this is in the class of the todd marinovich pick.. a head scratchingly bad selection..

0-16, baby, 0-16....

LOL pleasee.....our defense is damn good and ryan signd another extension all we needed was offense. with kiffin we will have that the guy studys with gruden,chow and carrol all the time. Davis has a really good knack for finding young talented coaches as well. The raiders will not trade there pick for vick its a stupid false rumor.

csquared

01-23-2007, 05:45 AM

LOL pleasee.....our defense is damn good and ryan signd another extension all we needed was offense. with kiffin we will have that the guy studys with gruden,chow and carrol all the time. Davis has a really good knack for finding young talented coaches as well. The raiders will not trade there pick for vick its a stupid false rumor.
Yea all 3 of those guys are offensive minds. :rolleyes: None of the 3 has done anything in the NFL. Gruden won a Super Bowl with Dungies players. Look what he has done to the Bucs now. This is just another reason why the Raiders are the laughingstock of the league. Game you gonna buy your #7 Vick jersey??

smoak

01-23-2007, 06:48 AM

With the way they treated Art Shell, I hope that franchise is doomed to 50 years of failure.

WarEagle

01-23-2007, 07:29 AM

I wish I got more Oakland games here. This should be fun to watch!
I guess Mike Shula turned 'em down.

hail2skins

01-23-2007, 07:33 AM

He's 31 years old? Wow. I don't see any veteran player playing hard for this guy. Randy Moss is 30 years old.Then they should be cut.

fent

01-23-2007, 08:00 AM

LOL pleasee.....our defense is damn good and ryan signd another extension all we needed was offense. with kiffin we will have that the guy studys with gruden,chow and carrol all the time. Davis has a really good knack for finding young talented coaches as well. The raiders will not trade there pick for vick its a stupid false rumor.

so...you're okay with going into the season with a HC that a week ago was nothing more than an OC candidate? the guy has NO NFL experience and no HC history at any level. if you're happy with this hiring, the bar has been set lower than i thought out in Oakland.

RedskinsDave

01-23-2007, 08:18 AM

so...you're okay with going into the season with a HC that a week ago was nothing more than an OC candidate? the guy has NO NFL experience and no HC history at any level. if you're happy with this hiring, the bar has been set lower than i thought out in Oakland.

Dude, he was an offensive quality control coach for the Jags. He is overqualified for the Raiders job.

RedskinsDave

01-23-2007, 08:20 AM

RedskinRyan

01-23-2007, 08:37 AM

Name ONE.

madden, gruden, mike shanahan(hit or miss considering his tenure in oak)

RedskinsDave

01-23-2007, 08:41 AM

madden, gruden, mike shanahan(hit or miss considering his tenure in oak)

Maybe he gets credit for Madden. Gruden isn't any good and Shanahan was elsewhere and then got fired quickly by the grim reaper.

fent

01-23-2007, 08:42 AM

madden, gruden, mike shanahan(hit or miss considering his tenure in oak)

3 out of 11 (prior to Kiffin) isn't exactly stellar. some of the other names he's hired.

Art Shell (58-55 overall), Mike White (15-17), Joe Bugel (4-12), Bill Callahan (17-18), Norv Turner (9-23). Hell...even Shanahan was only 8-12 while he was there.

the only decent coaches he's ever hired have been Madden and Flores (and he was only 15 games over .500 for his coaching career).

CNYSkinFan

01-23-2007, 08:43 AM

Dude, he was an offensive quality control coach for the Jags. He is overqualified for the Raiders job.
You are obviously discounting the many HCs that made their way from glorified tape eidtor to the HC....oh wait that's right that has never happened before.

Maybe WWD should have applied for the job.

fent

01-23-2007, 08:44 AM

Maybe WWD should have applied for the job.

no one wants that lack of job security.

dj_stouty

01-23-2007, 08:54 AM

Whoa, Whoa, Whoa....we are talking about Monte's kid? I thought they hired Monte...lol.

fent

01-23-2007, 08:55 AM

Whoa, Whoa, Whoa....we are talking about Monte's kid? I thought they hired Monte...lol.

monte has too much respect built up in the league to take that job.

The Game

01-23-2007, 10:46 AM

Name ONE.

Of the young coaches madden( Great coach),shannhan( Gave him his first job when no one else even new of him),gruden(won a SB and made the raiders good for a while), Tried to hire mangini when no one else thought of him and tried to hire sean paeyton when no one else was condering him.

RedskinsDave

01-23-2007, 10:49 AM

csquared

01-23-2007, 10:50 AM

Of the young coaches madden( Great coach),shannhan( Gave him his first job when no one else even new of him),gruden(won a SB and made the raiders good for a while), Tried to hire mangini when no one else thought of him and tried to hire sean paeyton when no one else was condering him.
We all know you arent the sharpest tool in the shed but, last time i checked Peyton or as you say paeyton and Mangini are both coaches. So obviously somebody else thought they were worthy too. Wonder why nobody wants to go to Oakland?

SpicyMcHaggis

01-23-2007, 11:11 AM

Awesome. I tried to date Jessica Beil. By your standards, I am a player.
Way to GO Dave!!! Lol....

SkinsfaninNJ

01-23-2007, 11:24 AM

With a new coach comes new hope. I get that. I even agree that Raiders have had some success in hiring a young unknown, but when guys turn down interviews and another young unknown turns down the job and you have to hire as HC the guy you were going to hire as OC, there has to be some concern. Even the most optimistic fan has to acknowledge some disappointment with the selection.

lakeskin

01-23-2007, 11:38 AM

monte has too much respect built up in the league to take that job.

Or any other head coaching job, apperently.

HAWGZHEAD

01-30-2007, 04:26 PM

Apparently Moss and Kiffin are off to a bad start. Moss with an attitude problem, pffft, no way.

Raiders | Moss and Kiffin reportedly start off on the wrong foot
Mon, 29 Jan 2007 18:40:39 -0800

Jerry McDonald, of ANG Newspapers, reports Oakland Raiders head coach Lane Kiffin and WR Randy Moss are not starting the year off on good terms. Kiffin reportedly had trouble reaching Moss by phone. When Kiffin finally made contact with him, Moss told Kiffin in profane terms he was not interested in talking. A source at the Senior Bowl confirmed the conversation was a topic of discussion among coaches, scouts and personnel.
SOURCE (http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl)

NCskinsfanatic

01-30-2007, 05:11 PM

Apparently Moss and Kiffin are off to a bad start. Moss with an attitude problem, pffft, no way.

SOURCE (http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl)
So where's randy and/or Porter getting shipped and for what, Al should blow that team up and get rid of the malcontents, i know they're the Raiders but c'mon!

SkinsfaninNJ

01-30-2007, 05:13 PM

What Moss did cannot be defended, but you have to think he must be wondering who the hell is Lane Kiffin and why is he calling me.

SpicyMcHaggis

01-30-2007, 05:17 PM

What Moss did cannot be defended, but you have to think he must be wondering who the hell is Lane Kiffin and why is he calling me.
:lol1:

shally

01-30-2007, 05:50 PM

What Moss did cannot be defended, but you have to think he must be wondering who the hell is Lane Kiffin and why is he calling me.

that is so toxic that if davis does not do something to support his HC, the entire team will be lost and out of control.. it does not matter if they go 0-16 next year, they need to cut their losses and start from scratch with team players

WarEagle

01-30-2007, 08:28 PM

that is so toxic that if davis does not do something to support his HC, the entire team will be lost and out of control.. it does not matter if they go 0-16 next year, they need to cut their losses and start from scratch with team players

I wonder if there is a scenario where the NFL owners association can intervene in the affairs of a clearly failing and dysfunctional franchise.

akhhorus

01-30-2007, 08:34 PM

I wonder if there is a scenario where the NFL owners association can intervene in the affairs of a clearly failing and dysfunctional franchise.

They did that with the Giants in the 70s. The Mara brothers were running the midgets into the ground so badly that Rozelle stepped in and forced them to hire George Young to run the entire franchise.

WarEagle

01-30-2007, 10:22 PM

They did that with the Giants in the 70s. The Mara brothers were running the midgets into the ground so badly that Rozelle stepped in and forced them to hire George Young to run the entire franchise.

I always thought the NFL had an "intervention clause" somewhere (whether formal or informal) - thanks for the example. Rozelle had stones. This could be a real test for the new commissioner over the next couple of years.

RedskinRyan

01-30-2007, 11:23 PM

I wonder if there is a scenario where the NFL owners association can intervene in the affairs of a clearly failing and dysfunctional franchise.

so clearly they've been to superbowl within the last five years or something like that. its bad right now, but give it a little longer before throwing in the towel on them.

LATrueRedskin

01-30-2007, 11:28 PM

And you thought Art Shell had no control over these players. Wait'll you get a load of this guy.

shally

01-30-2007, 11:48 PM

They did that with the Giants in the 70s. The Mara brothers were running the midgets into the ground so badly that Rozelle stepped in and forced them to hire George Young to run the entire franchise.

the giants have some sense of history.. al davis, lives to sue the league.
as long as he is running things, the league will simply get out of the way and let him committ nfl suicide

shally

01-30-2007, 11:49 PM

And you thought Art Shell had no control over these players. Wait'll you get a load of this guy.

ownership/front office has to step in or it will be a travesty

WarEagle

01-31-2007, 12:07 AM

the giants have some sense of history.. al davis, lives to sue the league.
as long as he is running things, the league will simply get out of the way and let him committ nfl suicide

Al Davis looks about ready for the cryogenics lab. Then again, he's looked that way for 20 years.

SkinsfaninNJ

01-31-2007, 10:12 AM

I wonder if there is a scenario where the NFL owners association can intervene in the affairs of a clearly failing and dysfunctional franchise.
Another example from decades ago was how the Skins used to give away players to the Giants. The owners believed the most essential part of a successful leage was to have a good team in NY. They actually gave a back-up QB to Sammy Baugh one year who went on to have a really good career.

I'm trying to find more specifics of this on the internet (so far nothing). I remember reading it in the flip a day Redskins calendar from last year.

Farmer Ted

01-31-2007, 10:16 AM

Al Davis looks about ready for the cryogenics lab. Then again, he's looked that way for 20 years.

Hey now! You shouldn't say stuff like that when you're quoting Shally.