question about first and second year players

[jsarno]

ok guys, I frequently join fantasy football leagues, and this year I am entering in a strange one that requires 6 (total) "youth players" at any position. A "Youth player" is any player that is a rookie this year, or just finished his rookie season last year.
These are the positions I need to fill.
QB
RB
WR
TE
K

DL
LB
DB

Out of those positions, I'm assuming there will be no 1st or 2nd year player as a kicker. So I need to knw who everyone thinks will be the best picks for "youth players". This is a keeper league, and I will be allowed to keep 63.5% of the players from year to year. HOWEVER, after the youth player finishes his second season, he will no longer be considered a youth player, and I will need to get another youth player to fill in the madatory 6 positions. (which makes rookies valuable since they can qualify for 2 years).
So, who do you guys think will do the best this year as far as "youth players" are concerned.
(there are no wrong answers)

[Green-Is-Good]

I do not know how much the players cost, but I'll give it a try.

At QB, Chris Simms
At RB, Lee Suggs
At WR, Jabar Gaffney
At DL, Rashad Moore
At LB, Boss Bailey
At DB, Dennis Weathersby

[jsarno]

Gotta admit, I know all those names, but not very familiar with who drafted them.

I think Boss is a steal.

[Green-Is-Good]

Simms is a Buc
Gaffney a Texan
Moore a Seahawk
Weathersby a Bengal

I am not sure about the other two:D

[jsarno]

the only two I knew were Gaffney and Simms.

Don't you think that Rogers (lions) will be better than Gaffney? Didn't he inherit the #1 spot?

[jsarno]

is moore starting?

[Green-Is-Good]

In Seattle's D, I wouldn't be surprised. Randle and Moore. That sounds pretty good.

Rogers SHOULD be their Number 1 reciever. Too much pressure was on Az-Zahir Hakim, who is naturally a #3 reciever.

[jsarno]

Did Boss Bailey go to Detroit too? For some reason that's what my mind is trying to remember.

[DallasSux]

Boss Bailey did go to detroit i think

[JoeDaSchmoe]

Here are guys I would pick up who'll be starters this year:

QB: Harrington, Carr, Ramsey, Boller
RB: Onterrio Smith, Clinton Portis
WR: Ashley Lelie, Charles Rogers, Andre Johnson, Donte Stallworth.
TE: Shockey (it'd be nice, huh?), Daniel Graham, Jeremy Stevens, Dallas Clark
K: Jeff Reed

DL: Dwight Freeney, Julius Peppers
LB: Boss Bailey, Terrell Suggs
DB: Terrence Newman, Marcus Trufant, Mike Doss, Troy Polamalu

There are plenty of valuable bench-riders too, but these guys will score you points right now.

[jsarno]

Originally posted by JoeDaSchmoe
Here are guys I would pick up who'll be starters this year:

QB: Harrington, Carr, Ramsey, Boller
RB: Onterrio Smith, Clinton Portis
WR: Ashley Lelie, Charles Rogers, Andre Johnson, Donte Stallworth.
TE: Shockey (it'd be nice, huh?), Daniel Graham, Jeremy Stevens, Dallas Clark
K: Jeff Reed

DL: Dwight Freeney, Julius Peppers
LB: Boss Bailey, Terrell Suggs
DB: Terrence Newman, Marcus Trufant, Mike Doss, Troy Polamalu

There are plenty of valuable bench-riders too, but these guys will score you points right now.

EXCELLENT! Those will help...thanks Joe.
(isn't terrell suggs as DE?)

I thought this was Lelie's third season. He's a sleeper in most drafts! If he's a second year, I'll have to scoup him up...thanks again Joe.

[Green-Is-Good]

How could you possibly afford all that?

[jsarno]

Originally posted by Green Is Good
How could you possibly afford all that?

ALL of my fantasy football leagues are drafts. Not salary.

Baseball I have salary leagues.

[JoeDaSchmoe]

Baltimore's using Suggs as an OLB in their 3-4 scheme.

Agh, forgot McMichael, Jolley, and Teyo Johnson at tight end. Royal could be picked up, too. Actually, I'm probably still missing a couple there, but oh well.

[jsarno]

Originally posted by JoeDaSchmoe
Baltimore's using Suggs as an OLB in their 3-4 scheme.




WHy would they do that????

[jsarno]

thanks again for those picks Joe...I was doing some research, and you're right on all of them. I didn't even think of Jeff Reed as a 2nd year player.

[JoeDaSchmoe]

Originally posted by jsarno
WHy would they do that????

Because in a 3-4, one OLB always rushes the quarterback, and often the other will, too. They're more like athletic defensive ends than true linebackers. And Suggs is fast enough to drop into the flats if need be.

No problem with the picks, good luck.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Originally posted by jsarno
ok guys, I frequently join fantasy football leagues, and this year I am entering in a strange one that requires 6 (total) "youth players" at any position. A "Youth player" is any player that is a rookie this year, or just finished his rookie season last year.
These are the positions I need to fill.
QB - Ramsey
RB - Larry Johnson - Chiefs
WR - Charles Rogers - Lions
TE - Jeremy "Soundbite" Shockey - Giants
K - ?

DL - Julius "Dr." Peppers - Panthers
LB - Nick Barnett - Packers
DB - Terence "Hello" Newman - Cowboys or Quentin Jammer - Chargers

[jsarno]

I forgot about Q. Jammer being only a second year. I thought he was a third year!!
He's supposed to have a killer year this year!

Thanks robert.

Anyone else have some good ones I may have forgotten?

I have a book with all rookies, so that's not a problem. But I need advice on the second year players since the memory doesn't work as well as it used to.

[Green-Is-Good]

Originally posted by JoeDaSchmoe
Because in a 3-4, one OLB always rushes the quarterback, and often the other will, too. They're more like athletic defensive ends than true linebackers. And Suggs is fast enough to drop into the flats if need be.

No problem with the picks, good luck.

Atlanta was planning on doing that with Patrick Kerney. After Will Overstreet's injury, they moved him back to his original posision. I think Suggs would be better off at DE.

[jsarno]

Originally posted by Green Is Good
I think Suggs would be better off at DE.

I agree there!

[skinswin'emALL]

Originally posted by jsarno
I agree there!

2nd that -- he seems to get overpowerd at LB

[CarMike]

In reality, he is. Like Joe said, thats just the position title. But he does still rush from the outside. He just may not be down in the three point stance....

BTW, I read that Suggs is having a VERY hard time rushing the QB. They're saying that he's still trying to use his speed like he did in college instead of learning how to use his hands. The OLman are much quicker in the NFL so his speed doesn't help him...

[skinswin'emALL]

I've read that it's Suggs ability (or lack there of) to "turn the corner" on his rushes also, that's a major concern