Marty Schottenheimer FIRED by Chargers

[FanFromArizona]

It's being reported by ESPN News that the Chargers have just fired Marty Schottenheimer, this is the only link I can find so far:

http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl

[VegasSkinsFan]

I just saw on espn that San Diego fired Marty S. This is my first attempt to start a thread, if I am doing something wrong please let me know. Go Skins !!!!

[CarMike]

Marty is a good coach. For some reason he just can't get it done in post-season.

I'm glad dallass has already hired their coach.

Wonder where he lands. Who has Miami hired? I haven't been keeping up with the NFL since the Redskins season ended.

[akhhorus]

Piss Poor timing on this, they could have kept Phillips as a backup plan for them. Except Norval or Singletary to get a shot with them.

[FanFromArizona]

Marty and AJ Smith fought over staffing and Spanos decided to let Marty go.

[rhummer37]

The Dolphins hired the Charger's offensive coordinator.

[VegasSkinsFan]

Thanks for getting the thread up, I tried but I ended up putting it in the wrong forum area. Hopefully someone with end my thread and/or move it here. Go Skins !!!

[FanFromArizona]

Piss Poor timing on this, they could have kept Phillips as a backup plan for them. Except Norval or Singletary to get a shot with them.

HORRIBLE timing.

Who are their choices now? Welcome Mike Tice. LOL.

[hogs86]

Do you have a link ?

[VegasSkinsFan]

Please kill this thread since another thread was started in the correct forum area. Sorry for the inconvenience. Go Skins !!!!

[FanFromArizona]

It'll be interesting to see Phillips' development now, the funny thing now it could be argued that the weakest link on the SD team will be the coaching staff.

[CarMike]

The Dolphins hired the Charger's offensive coordinator.
That's right. thanks rhummer37

[whitskins]

This is pretty pathetic management, they wait so long to pull this move that not only do they miss out on every other decent candidate but they wind up letting both their coordinators go as well...

If the Skins pulled this kind of bone headed move the league would contract the franchise.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

So the Chargers will have a new HC, OC and DC for next year?

[Sonoma]

Some lucky coach will get a very solid squad.......

[Skaggsrules]

not a good day for former Redskins

[CarMike]

Thanks for getting the thread up, I tried but I ended up putting it in the wrong forum area. Hopefully someone with end my thread and/or move it here. Go Skins !!!
VSF, don't worry about it friend. I merged yours into this one.

I ask of one favor. Please post threads in the correct forum. Anything not relating to the redskins, and it pertains to the NFL, please post in this forum. :)

Thanks :awesomewo

Mike.

[FanFromArizona]

Coaching candidates:

Mike Sherman
Mike Tice
Indy QB coach
Norval
Denny Green
Ron Rivera

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Coaching candidates:

Mike Sherman
Mike Tice
Indy QB coach
Norval
Denny Green
Ron Rivera
Of that list I think it would be D. Green

[CarMike]

Some lucky coach will get a very solid squad.......
I would laugh my arse off if Parcells came out of retirement to coach the Chargers. :D

dallass fans would die.

[Santheb]

Yeah...this probably isn't a good idea.

[VegasSkinsFan]

CarMike, thanks and sorry for that. It was my 1st attempt at a new thread and wasnt sure which forum I was in, i was just trying to be up to the minute...I'll get it right the next time. GO SKINS !!!!!!

[rskinsfan10]

The genius of A.J. Smith....

[whistleandthumb]

Wow... hard to believe.

I woulda kept Marty around another season to see what would happen, but it's also hard to argue with letting him go. The guy's had 2 great shots with great teams in SD to go deep in the playoffs, and he's failed both times.

Interesting to see what the Chargers do now. How do you fire your HC, after just letting your OC and DC walk out the door?!?!? Unless they have some ace up their sleeve that we don't know about yet, I can't imagine this turning out well for SD. If I was a Chargers fan, I'd be going through the roof right now.

[akhhorus]

The Chargers board is MELTING down right now. They're all expecting Parcells.

[hail2skins]

I would laugh my arse off if Parcells came out of retirement to coach the Chargers. :D

dallass fans would die.Mike, that would be kinda funny wouldn't it. I'm sure they're contacting him as well but would he make a good fit there.

[FanFromArizona]

CarMike, thanks and sorry for that. It was my 1st attempt at a new thread and wasnt sure which forum I was in, i was just trying to be up to the minute...I'll get it right the next time. GO SKINS !!!!!!

pick the forum first, and THEN hit New Thread. Otherwise, New Thread will go to the forum you currently are in.

Hang in there, you made a beginner's mistake. No harm done.

[hail2skins]

The Chargers board is MELTING down right now. They're all expecting Parcells.Which board?

[akhhorus]

Which board?

The official chargers board.

http://forums.chargers.com/

[redskin_rich]

This was the right move to make about 4 weeks ago and a disastrous move to make now. Wow, I'm LMAO at the Chargers and Marty.

[CarMike]

Mike, that would be kinda funny wouldn't it. I'm sure they're contacting him as well but would he make a good fit there.
I could coach the Chargers to the playoffs. Probably have the same result that Marty had, but.....lol

[FanFromArizona]

The Chargers board is MELTING down right now. They're all expecting Parcells.

I wonder if Bill's contract with the Cowgirls allows for him to go to another team before 1 year is up. Didn't he leave on the basis of a certain clause in his contract? I would wonder if there would be draft pick compensation involved if he were to go to the Chargers. It could get construed as a trade for a HC (like Oakland/Tampa did for Gruden).

[akhhorus]

I could coach the Chargers to the playoffs. Probably have the same result that Marty had, but.....lol

With the talent that the Bolts have, I could coach the chargers drunk, shot full of horse tranquilizers and wrapped head to toe in duct tape and win 11 games.

[FanFromArizona]

With the talent that the Bolts have, I could coach the chargers drunk, shot full of horse tranquilizers and wrapped head to toe in duct tape and win 11 games.


Sounds like all they need is a drone to coach them.

As I said before. the weakest link on SD now is the coaching staff. I would even go further and say that the PLAYERS could probably coach themselves and produce at the same level.

[lakeskin]

Here's hoping they bring back Bobby Ross. ;)

[akhhorus]

Some highlights from the Bolts board:

"Bring us Jimmy Johnson please"

"my dad said Parcells"

"Who are we going to find to coach now...Art Shell?"

"Damn... guess our Vegas odds just slipped to 10-1."

"just (redacted-akh) my droors"

"didnt bobby ross just leave army???"

"Norm Chow
Norv Turner
Jimmy Johnson
Dr. Phil
Those are the only people that should warrant consideration as New Chargers head coach."

[shally]

I would laugh my arse off if Parcells came out of retirement to coach the Chargers. :D

dallass fans would die.

holey moley !!!

all i can think off is that he must have said or done something to tick off either spanos or smith.. the timing of it is so bad there can be no other explanation

phillips could have had 2 teams bidding for his services..

this is mind boggling.. maybe rivera gets a prime slot after all-- although again there is the 3/4 issue..

and parcells is not going to work under smith because he would have zero say on personnel.. san diego will go young with their hire..

norm chow ?
rivera ?
singletary ?
the coord at indy

[shally]

I wonder if Bill's contract with the Cowgirls allows for him to go to another team before 1 year is up. Didn't he leave on the basis of a certain clause in his contract? I would wonder if there would be draft pick compensation involved if he were to go to the Chargers. It could get construed as a trade for a HC (like Oakland/Tampa did for Gruden).

since parcells quit, i bet they girls would be owed compensation..

i do not see SD going old

maybe sherman as the only re tread

[akhhorus]

holey moley !!!

all i can think off is that he must have said or done something to tick off either spanos or smith.. the timing of it is so bad there can be no other explanation

phillips could have had 2 teams bidding for his services..

this is mind boggling.. maybe rivera gets a prime slot after all-- although again there is the 3/4 issue..

and parcells is not going to work under smith because he would have zero say on personnel.. san diego will go young with their hire..

norm chow ?
rivera ?
singletary ?
the coord at indy

Spanos' statement gives us a clue:

When I decision to move ahead with Marty Schottenheimer in mid-January, I did so with the expectation that the core of his fine coaching staff would remain intact. Unfortunately, that did not prove to be the case, and the process of dealing with these coaching changes convinced me that we simply could not move forward with such dysfunction between our head coach and general manager. In short, this entire process over the last month convinced me beyond any doubt that I had to act to change this untenable situation and create an environment where everyone at Charger Park would be pulling in the same direction and working at a championship level. I expect exactly that from our entire Charger organization in 2007."

Smells like something happened between Marty and Smith.

[shally]

With the talent that the Bolts have, I could coach the chargers drunk, shot full of horse tranquilizers and wrapped head to toe in duct tape and win 11 games.

damn straight !!! and i bet you wouldnt get bounced in the first round of the playoffs either

[akhhorus]

damn straight !!! and i bet you wouldnt get bounced in the first round of the playoffs either

Probably would after my attendants overdose me right before a critical 3rd down call in Kansas City.

[schmitty199]

No HC job's open is there?

Bad timing for the Chargers and Schottenheimer. FA is comeing up in about 3 weeks. I know it's mostly AJ Smith's call on the players but it sure cant be a good thing to possibly not have a HC's opinion when makeing a FA plan.

Hmmm wonder if Phillips hire's him as a assistant? I sure wouldnt complain with that.

[FanFromArizona]

Spanos' statement gives us a clue:



Smells like something happened between Marty and Smith.

I think this site (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9993023) sums it up succintly: "dysfunctional situation".


I have to say that I am amazed regarding the level of HATRED two people had for each other and BOTH were on the same team. Granted, Marty does not back down, but with a team as talented as SD is, you would think they should have realized that now was NOT the time to be creating the controversy they have now created.

[schmitty199]

since parcells quit, i bet they girls would be owed compensation..

i do not see SD going old

maybe sherman as the only re tread

And alot of it. :)

[shally]

Spanos' statement gives us a clue:



Smells like something happened between Marty and Smith.

darn right something happened between marty and smith.. it has been brewing for years since john butler got sick and smith was elevated.

i can just see it..

marty walks in to smiths office and says... " nanny nanny boo boo, stick your tongue in poo poo..."..... you cant fire me because now i am all you have..

and smith says..." i'll show you who is in charge.. i am going to fire you right now.."

and marty says..."go run to mommy like the little girl you are.."

and smith says...." MMMMMAAAAAAAAA... marty's sticking his tongue out at me.. fire him.. fire him.. fire him...."

and spanos says..."if you children cannot play well together someone is going to time out"

and marty says.." you cant send me to time out because, i am the oldest kid.."

and smith says..." marty says your old and ugly and smell bad.."


and spanos say..." he said WHAT ???? !!!!... you're grounded forever !!! no,
your butt is FIRED..."



or something to that effect..

[akhhorus]

And alot of it. :)

Don't believe there's trading picks/players for coaches anymore. The boys might get a cash payment from the Chargers, so Jeruh can buy a new face lift I guess or get the filter on his hottub unclogged(finally).

[shally]

No HC job's open is there?

Bad timing for the Chargers and Schottenheimer. FA is comeing up in about 3 weeks. I know it's mostly AJ Smith's call on the players but it sure cant be a good thing to possibly not have a HC's opinion when makeing a FA plan.

Hmmm wonder if Phillips hire's him as a assistant? I sure wouldnt complain with that.

then you would be guaranteed to go 8-8 forever...

[FanFromArizona]

and parcells is not going to work under smith because he would have zero say on personnel.. san diego will go young with their hire..

norm chow ?
rivera ?
singletary ?
the coord at indy


I am going to go out on a limb and make a wild prediction here regarding potential candidates for the job, two names that leap into my mind that have been trying to make a comeback in recent times:


Mooch
Dan Reeves.

Granted, both are not the youthful candidates they would be looking at, but both have coached before and could serve as a stopgap for a better class (of coaches) next year.

[schmitty199]

Don't believe there's trading picks/players for coaches anymore. The boys might get a cash payment from the Chargers, so Jeruh can buy a new face lift I guess or get the filter on his hottub unclogged(finally).


Hmm really? I thought there was talk if Dallas were to go after Cohwer they would owe the Steelers some picks. Same situation isnt it? Maybe the source on that was wrong though. Doesnt really matter because I highly doubt Parcells is coaching again. Would be a classic move by him to do so though.

If it did become a situation that is was Smith or Schottenheimer 1 had to go I see why they decided on what they did. The way Smith has been drafting it would be a crime for them to let him go.

[shally]

I am going to go out on a limb and make a wild prediction here regarding potential candidates for the job, two names that leap into my mind that have been trying to make a comeback in recent times:


Mooch
Dan Reeves.

Granted, both are not the youthful candidates they would be looking at, but both have coached before and could serve as a stopgap for a better class (of coaches) next year.

mooch is possible.. he is definitely a west coast kind of guy..

but the thing is that smith has been waiting for years now to put his own guy in.. that means someone young.. no way it is sherman, parcells, mooch,
or green or norv or martz..

how about a REAL wild card.. cowher comes riding to their rescue ??

nah... smith wants his own puppet.. they will go young

[akhhorus]

Conspiracy theory:
Pete Carroll would love to stay in SC, Sarkasian(widely assumed to be his heir apparent) turned down the Raiders gig, Signing Day in CFB has come and gone and USC landed an amazing class of talent. Carroll leaves and becomes the SD coach, Sarkasian takes the SC job(with the massive recruiting class Carroll got).

[shally]

Hmm really? I thought there was talk if Dallas were to go after Cohwer they would owe the Steelers some picks. Same situation isnt it? Maybe the source on that was wrong though. Doesnt really matter because I highly doubt Parcells is coaching again. Would be a classic move by him to do so though.

If it did become a situation that is was Smith or Schottenheimer 1 had to go I see why they decided on what they did. The way Smith has been drafting it would be a crime for them to let him go.

and it has been marty's coaching failures, not smith's personnel moves that have doomed the team in the playoffs

[shally]

Conspiracy theory:
Pete Carroll would love to stay in SC, Sarkasian(widely assumed to be his heir apparent) turned down the Raiders gig, Signing Day in CFB has come and gone and USC landed an amazing class of talent. Carroll leaves and becomes the SD coach, Sarkasian takes the SC job(with the massive recruiting class Carroll got).

or maybe sarkasian takes the job himself.. that would fit the right mold..

i am thinking that it is either chow or sarkasian when the dust settles.. both have good SC connections

[FanFromArizona]

mooch is possible.. he is definitely a west coast kind of guy..

but the thing is that smith has been waiting for years now to put his own guy in.. that means someone young.. no way it is sherman, parcells, mooch,
or green or norv or martz..

how about a REAL wild card.. cowher comes riding to their rescue ??

nah... smith wants his own puppet.. they will go young

going young would be a mistake this year. Young gun coach with young gun QB? Mistake in my mind. They would regress in an important year for the QB.

I think they should go with experienced coach this year(2-3 year contract), make the young guy the coordinator. Groom the young gun to take over in 1 or 2 years.

[akhhorus]

Hmm really? I thought there was talk if Dallas were to go after Cohwer they would owe the Steelers some picks. Same situation isnt it? Maybe the source on that was wrong though. Doesnt really matter because I highly doubt Parcells is coaching again. Would be a classic move by him to do so though.

If it did become a situation that is was Smith or Schottenheimer 1 had to go I see why they decided on what they did. The way Smith has been drafting it would be a crime for them to let him go.

I believe the NFL ended it after Gruden was sold for a couple 1sts. You can't talk to a sitting coach(or under contract coach) without permission, unless you're offering him a promotion(a gm spot along with the coach's job is one). It would be impossible for the boys to ask for compensation since they let him go as coach(the skins did give up a 3rd for Marty, but that was before the whole Gruden Debacle).

[schmitty199]

then you would be guaranteed to go 8-8 forever...

Schottenheimer as a assistant would only bring good things. Actually it may not even be as a assistant. If it were probably a 1 year deal. Maybe a consultant or something with no real commitments so he's 100 percent free to explore HC openings next offseason (for whoever dares to hire him as HC :lol1: )

[shally]

going young would be a mistake this year. Young gun coach with young gun QB? Mistake in my mind. They would regress in an important year for the QB.

I think they should go with experienced coach this year(2-3 year contract), make the young guy the coordinator. Groom the young gun to take over in 1 or 2 years.

disagree.. someone like chow would be ideal for rivers.. besides, they went old last time. they wont do it again..

the more i think of it the more i like chow to team with rivers

[schmitty199]

I believe the NFL ended it after Gruden was sold for a couple 1sts. You can't talk to a sitting coach(or under contract coach) without permission, unless you're offering him a promotion(a gm spot along with the coach's job is one). It would be impossible for the boys to ask for compensation since they let him go as coach(the skins did give up a 3rd for Marty, but that was before the whole Gruden Debacle).


Ohhh... didnt know that. If the Chargers want him and his 1 on 1 defensive philosphy they can have it. They'll be fed up with it in the 1st 3 games. It basically lines every defender up on a blocker and challenges them to beat them 1 on 1 with little creativity. Opposite of what Phillips does.

[shally]

I believe the NFL ended it after Gruden was sold for a couple 1sts. You can't talk to a sitting coach(or under contract coach) without permission, unless you're offering him a promotion(a gm spot along with the coach's job is one). It would be impossible for the boys to ask for compensation since they let him go as coach(the skins did give up a 3rd for Marty, but that was before the whole Gruden Debacle).

wouldnt stop jerruh from making a stink and asking for 3 superbowls to be in dallas plus about 18 compensatory picks

[wide_awake]

Piss Poor timing on this, they could have kept Phillips as a backup plan for them. Except Norval or Singletary to get a shot with them.
is that ryan adams in your sig?

[shally]

Schottenheimer as a assistant would only bring good things. Actually it may not even be as a assistant. If it were probably a 1 year deal. Maybe a consultant or something with no real commitments so he's 100 percent free to explore HC openings next offseason (for whoever dares to hire him as HC :lol1: )

sure, as an assistant maybe he could teach newman about his backpeddle technique.. or perhaps TO about how to catch passes..
:lol1:

[RedskinRyan]

its still possible to trade draft picks for coaches, as herm was given to KC for a 4th rounder. something changed in the rules though since oakland got 2 1sts and 2 2nd rounders for gruden, i just dunno what it is.

but absolutely dumb move by the chargers. the timing is just downright horrible. they will now pretty much have to assemble a new coaching staff in about 3 weeks before signing free agents.

[ryflan47]

shazam! cowher.... ohh cowher.. i know you're tempted

[shally]

its still possible to trade draft picks for coaches, as herm was given to KC for a 4th rounder. something changed in the rules though since oakland got 2 1sts and 2 2nd rounders for gruden, i just dunno what it is.

but absolutely dumb move by the chargers. the timing is just downright horrible. they will now pretty much have to assemble a new coaching staff in about 3 weeks before signing free agents.

something happened.. no question about it.. this was NOT a planned move

[shally]

shazam! cowher.... ohh cowher.. i know you're tempted

i do not know about cowher being tempted, but i bet spanos gives him a courtesy call anyway.. the risk is that they would still have to go through the rooney rule charade even if they had decided on cowher

[schmitty199]

its still possible to trade draft picks for coaches, as herm was given to KC for a 4th rounder. something changed in the rules though since oakland got 2 1sts and 2 2nd rounders for gruden, i just dunno what it is.

but absolutely dumb move by the chargers. the timing is just downright horrible. they will now pretty much have to assemble a new coaching staff in about 3 weeks before signing free agents.


The real question is how is Oakland so terrible when they got 2 extra 1st's and 2 extra 2nd's for a overrated coach? Shouldnt they atleast have a good talent base after that?

Bad, bad drafting..... :lol1:

[akhhorus]

its still possible to trade draft picks for coaches, as herm was given to KC for a 4th rounder. something changed in the rules though since oakland got 2 1sts and 2 2nd rounders for gruden, i just dunno what it is.

Herm was still a sitting NFL coach when they dealt him(with 2 years left on his deal with the Jets). Parcells isn't. And you can deal sitting coaches for picks, but I doubt you can for coaches sans job. That might have been the change after Gruden.

[FanFromArizona]

disagree.. someone like chow would be ideal for rivers.. besides, they went old last time. they wont do it again..

the more i think of it the more i like chow to team with rivers

It's the timing element that I think would make the hiring of a young coach wrong.

Nothing against chow, I think he could be a nice HC someday, but time will be working against a young coach at this point in the game.

Combines, free agency, draft, figure out your coaching staff, determine offense and defense, just doesn't smell like a recipe for success for a young head coach.

[shally]

The real question is how is Oakland so terrible when they got 2 extra 1st's and 2 extra 2nd's for a overrated coach? Shouldnt they atleast have a good talent base after that?

Bad, bad drafting..... :lol1:

bad coaching AND bad drafting.. a lethal combination.. the raiders will defy the parity rule and be bad for quite some time

[akhhorus]

The real question is how is Oakland so terrible when they got 2 extra 1st's and 2 extra 2nd's for a overrated coach? Shouldnt they atleast have a good talent base after that?

Bad, bad drafting..... :lol1:

"Overrated" coach who won them a super bowl. Ironically enough, beating Oakland in it.

[schmitty199]

i do not know about cowher being tempted, but i bet spanos gives him a courtesy call anyway.. the risk is that they would still have to go through the rooney rule charade even if they had decided on cowher

Cowher in SD would just be scary. Great coach with argueably the most talented team in the league?

Even scarier...... IF Belicheck were to leave NE next year and he went to SD..... ugh would it even be worth the rest of the 31 teams suiting up? Haha jk but BB would definetly be adding another SB trophy or 2...

[FanFromArizona]

shazam! cowher.... ohh cowher.. i know you're tempted

cowher to the west coast? Nah. his leaving was a family thing.

[shally]

It's the timing element that I think would make the hiring of a young coach wrong.

Nothing against chow, I think he could be a nice HC someday, but time will be working against a young coach at this point in the game.

Combines, free agency, draft, figure out your coaching staff, determine offense and defense, just doesn't smell like a recipe for success for a young head coach.

all true.. but the chargers are so solid up and down the roster that they can compensate for the learning curve.

still, mangini didnt do so bad did he ?

they have the front office in place to manage personnel anyway.. no reason not to go young when it comes down to it..

[FanFromArizona]

i do not know about cowher being tempted, but i bet spanos gives him a courtesy call anyway.. the risk is that they would still have to go through the rooney rule charade even if they had decided on cowher

I guess in a sense it's good they can give Denny Green/ Art Shell a call to get under the rule.

[shally]

cowher to the west coast? Nah. his leaving was a family thing.

i think you are right about that.. cowher really does not look like a west coast kind of guy.

chow.. sarkasian... mybe even rivera because he is latin.. that would sell really well in SC and would satisfy the rooney rule (would chow ???)

[schmitty199]

"Overrated" coach who won them a super bowl. Ironically enough, beating Oakland in it.


Everyone knows Gruden won that SB off of Dungy's team. That team was SB bound with Gruden or not. Since then his teams pretty much been a disaster.

haha yeah thats the defintion of irony in football.....

[shally]

I guess in a sense it's good they can give Denny Green/ Art Shell a call to get under the rule.

i know rivera would do it.. maybe chow ???

the indy coordinator (his name escapes me).. also ron meeks the indy def coordinator

[shally]

Everyone knows Gruden won that SB off of Dungy's team. That team was SB bound with Gruden or not. Since then his teams pretty much been a disaster.

haha yeah thats the defintion of irony in football.....

dont think that the same possible scenario is not apparent to many coaching candidates.. the expectations are sky high, but the roster is solid..

[akhhorus]

Everyone knows Gruden won that SB off of Dungy's team. That team was SB bound with Gruden or not. Since then his teams pretty much been a disaster.

haha yeah thats the defintion of irony in football.....

And Dungy couldn't do squat with that team in the playoffs. Gruden got them over the hump and changed their offense. Oh and as for Tampa being "bound for the Super Bowl", they were 9-7 the year before Gruden took over. I seriously doubt anyone picked them to win the SB. I think everyone was picking the Rams and Pats(after their SB classic).

[FanFromArizona]

all true.. but the chargers are so solid up and down the roster that they can compensate for the learning curve.

still, mangini didnt do so bad did he ?

they have the front office in place to manage personnel anyway.. no reason not to go young when it comes down to it..

Mangini was hired pretty early on. Jets had a system that was worth dismantling. Injury bug BADLY hit Jets two years ago. I was expecting an 8-8 season from Mangini, was pleasantly surprised.

Will new system be brought in or will new coach learn the system that has been left behind? You know the temptation will be to implement a system that the head coach is familiar with, but IMO that would be the biggest mistake that could be made. Experienced coach would recognize not to change the system and could probably learn the system quicker, it's probably biased thinking that way, an argument could probably be either way(young coach vs experienced coach).


From a long-term perspective I would agree they need to bring a young coach in, just the timing makes going young right now difficult to do.

[RedskinRyan]

i know rivera would do it.. maybe chow ???

the indy coordinator (his name escapes me).. also ron meeks the indy def coordinator

the OC is tom moore. i dunno why anybody would hire any defensive coaches from indy though. not until they consistenly put out a strong unit, something they have yet to do.

[FanFromArizona]

i know rivera would do it.. maybe chow ???

the indy coordinator (his name escapes me).. also ron meeks the indy def coordinator

Is Chow considered eligible to meet the requirments of the Rooney Rule?

[Fathead]

As crazy as this is, it may work out for SD. With Marty as a lame duck, finding decent cooridinators would have been really hard.




I would bet on Rivera.

[shally]

the OC is tom moore. i dunno why anybody would hire any defensive coaches from indy though. not until they consistenly put out a strong unit, something they have yet to do.

no.. he is old and white ...not the guy i am thinking of

[shally]

Is Chow considered eligible to meet the requirments of the Rooney Rule?

that is what i was asking... somehow i do not think that asian americans qualify.. i know that rivera would qualify

[FanFromArizona]

Apparently Marty inflamed the situation by asking that the Chargers hire his brother.

Team officials upset with the turnover of their coaching personnel this offseason. Marty is the scapegoat.

Personally I think this is wrong. They should have fired Marty at the time that they decided to give him a lame-duck contract. Should have kept Cam Cameron and let Marty walk.

[shally]

Apparently Marty inflamed the situation by asking that the Chargers hire his brother.

Team officials upset with the turnover of their coaching personnel this offseason. Marty is the scapegoat.

Personally I think this is wrong. They should have fired Marty at the time that they decided to give him a lame-duck contract. Should have kept Cam Cameron and let Marty walk.

this whole off season has been turmoil for the chargers.. they even told the cowboys they could not speak to 2 of their remaining coaches.. good thing or the cupboard would be totally bare

[FanFromArizona]

no.. he is old and white ...not the guy i am thinking of

QB coach: Jim Caldwell.

[shally]

QB coach: Jim Caldwell.

that's him.. thanks.. he had a solid interview with the cowboys from what i read..

also, i bet marty goes to the broadcast booth.. he looked to be happy there before he became redskin coach

[FanFromArizona]

this whole off season has been turmoil for the chargers.. they even told the cowboys they could not speak to 2 of their remaining coaches.. good thing or the cupboard would be totally bare

NFL Network reports the following as candidates:

Mooch
Mike Martz
Mike Sherman
Norval
Singletary
James Lofton

[FanFromArizona]

that's him.. thanks.. he had a solid interview with the cowboys from what i read..

also, i bet marty goes to the broadcast booth.. he looked to be happy there before he became redskin coach

I think he will want to be involved and will try to get a consultant job.
Fallback plan will be broadcasting.

And he will get paid this year as well.

[shally]

NFL Network reports the following as candidates:

Mooch
Mike Martz
Mike Sherman
Norval
Singletary
James Lofton

i cannot see any of them ending up as coach.. especially the older guys.. lofton ??? nah... singletary ? more a DC candidate at this time.. but you never knwo

[shally]

I think he will want to be involved and will try to get a consultant job.
Fallback plan will be broadcasting.

And he will get paid this year as well.

marty might have set the record for being paid NOT to coach between snyder and spanos.

i wonder if spanos gets trashed the same way snyder was ? dont bet on it...

[LATrueRedskin]

I suspect the Bears D Coordinator to get a look as well. Great timing by the Chargers. :rolleyes: This offseason is going to be crazy, I can just feel it.

[shally]

I suspect the Bears D Coordinator to get a look as well. Great timing by the Chargers. :rolleyes: This offseason is going to be crazy, I can just feel it.

the good thing is that their roster is very solid and they have fine players on both side of the ball.
plus, if need be they can trade turner and get still more picks in the draft.

they just need a coaching staff
:lol1:

[shally]

i was just thinking that after the cowboys passed on norv, he was greeted very warmly by the niners and welcomed back with even more say in things

i doubt that norv would want to risk that a second time by interviewing for the chargers spot.. my bet is that norv politely refuses

[FanFromArizona]

i was just thinking that after the cowboys passed on norv, he was greeted very warmly by the niners and welcomed back with even more say in things

i doubt that norv would want to risk that a second time by interviewing for the chargers spot.. my bet is that norv politely refuses

I would think so.

I am still thinking Mooch is the man. NFL Network reports his salary is still on Detroit's books for this year, so they could probably get Mooch on the cheap.

[silverspring]

I saw that PFT stipulated that AJ smith might be sent packing too which would make absolutely no sense to me.

So with all these coaching spots opening do you guys wonder if GW, Saunders and even our high end assistant coaches are getting phone calls?

[RedskinRyan]

I would think so.

I am still thinking Mooch is the man. NFL Network reports his salary is still on Detroit's books for this year, so they could probably get Mooch on the cheap.

everything ive been hearing though says that mooch is content on nfl network. and the only reasoning i can think of as to why norv would be a good fit for SD is because they wouldnt lose every postseason, because they'd never make it that far.

[LATrueRedskin]

the good thing is that their roster is very solid and they have fine players on both side of the ball.
plus, if need be they can trade turner and get still more picks in the draft.

they just need a coaching staff
:lol1:

WOW, I didn't even realize that the Chargers have nobody in place for head coach right now. LOL didn't these guys just go 14-2 this past year? Man, the NFL is harsh.

[FanFromArizona]

everything ive been hearing though says that mooch is content on nfl network.


but with a shot to be the coach in SAN DIEGO? I think he would consider this job.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

Anybody would be a fool not to consider the job.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

I guess it made sense to get rid of Marty now with a lot of the staff turning over. This clears up the discontent between GM and coach and gives the team a chance to start fresh. Granted, it's not what SD needed right now.

[FanFromArizona]

Anybody would be a fool not to consider the job.

hopefully "anybody" is anybody but our own coaches.

[LATrueRedskin]

hopefully "anybody" is anybody but our own coaches.

That's a good point. The coaching vacancy is so late, that they could start looking at the lesser-tier assistant coaches out there, including Al Saunders or Gregg Williams.

[joethefan]

old Marty Marr......maybe he can hoopk up with his old assits who now have a coaching job....

[FanFromArizona]

That's a good point. The coaching vacancy is so late, that they could start looking at the lesser-tier assistant coaches out there, including Al Saunders or Gregg Williams.

would just be a transferrance of the problem from San Diego to us.
I don't think they would go after GW, (his comments about his family liking the DC area), but Saunders going out there? Possibly. He could even consider it after being snubbed last year for HC opportunities.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

That's a good point. The coaching vacancy is so late, that they could start looking at the lesser-tier assistant coaches out there, including Al Saunders or Gregg Williams.
I could find no link for this on the net, but there was a poll of players in SI two weeks ago about assistant coaches who should be head coaches. Both GW and AS were in the top 5. The poll was conducted before the season. Is one bad season enough to keep these two from becoming candidates?

[FanFromArizona]

I could find no link for this on the net, but there was a poll of players in SI two weeks ago about assistant coaches who should be head coaches. Both GW and AS were in the top 5. The poll was conducted before the season. Is one bad season enough to keep these two from becoming candidates?

As I said previously, GW family situation is going to keep him in DC. Furthermore, he will be stained by last year's tarnishment.

Saunders on the other hand.....I could see as a possibility. Not sure where he stands on wanting to try another time at a HC position.

[LATrueRedskin]

I could find no link for this on the net, but there was a poll of players in SI two weeks ago about assistant coaches who should be head coaches. Both GW and AS were in the top 5. The poll was conducted before the season. Is one bad season enough to keep these two from becoming candidates?

As crazy as the NFL is, I'd say a bad season definately affects their chances of becoming head coaches. I'd say Al Saunders has more of a chance to become a head coach right now, because our offense picked up the slack as the season went on. Gregg Williams had one of the worst defenses last year, one in which his players underperformed greatly. Plus, the ESPN article was a pretty negative aspect on the season, and exposed the way the players view him and the way he does things, whether they were true or not.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

As crazy as the NFL is, I'd say a bad season definately affects their chances of becoming head coaches. I'd say Al Saunders has more of a chance to become a head coach right now, because our offense picked up the slack as the season went on. Gregg Williams had one of the worst defenses last year, one in which his players underperformed greatly. Plus, the ESPN article was a pretty negative aspect on the season, and exposed the way the players view him and the way he does things, whether they were true or not.
I hope so, because I believe both men will prove last season was a fluke next year.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

old Marty Marr......maybe he can hoopk up with his old assits who now have a coaching job....
I was thinking about that. Aren't the Dolphins looking for a front office type or GM? Maybe he could be in the front office with Cam as HC.

[LATrueRedskin]

I hope so, because I believe both men will prove last season was a fluke next year.

I think so, too.

[Ibleedburgundy]

The next coach will be walking into huge expectations.

[joethefan]

I think so, too.


I heard someone on the radio on the way to work tonight saying that this may be a perfect situation for Parcells...LOL

[LATrueRedskin]

I heard someone on the radio on the way to work tonight saying that this may be a perfect situation for Parcells...LOL

Yeah it really is. Bill Cowher might even come back for a situation like this. This is probably the best situation a coach can walk into. They went 14-2 last year! Unbelievable.

[joethefan]

maybe the ole ball coach will come back.....say "Welp Hue Were gonna make another run at it or sumthiin like gat".....LOL

[shally]

would just be a transferrance of the problem from San Diego to us.
I don't think they would go after GW, (his comments about his family liking the DC area), but Saunders going out there? Possibly. He could even consider it after being snubbed last year for HC opportunities.

saunders has already been head coach of the bolts... that wont happen

[shally]

I heard someone on the radio on the way to work tonight saying that this may be a perfect situation for Parcells...LOL

not under smith..

parcells might surface as a GM somewhere.. but not as HC

[FanFromArizona]

saunders has already been head coach of the bolts... that wont happen

when was that?

[shally]

I was thinking about that. Aren't the Dolphins looking for a front office type or GM? Maybe he could be in the front office with Cam as HC.

marty has NO business being in charge of personnel.. that was the first thing john butler told him when he became HC of the chargers.. coaching only

[shally]

when was that?
1986-88

he replaced don coryell who was fired mid season.. al was receivers coach, then interim coach. then head coach until 88

[FanFromArizona]

1986-88

he replaced don coryell who was fired mid season.. al was receivers coach, then interim coach. then head coach until 88

wow, back in the days of the flood basically......

making me feel young, are ya?

[shally]

wow, back in the days of the flood basically......

making me feel young, are ya?

you are young...

[FanFromArizona]

you are young...

about to get old once again....:cry:

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

LOL at the impeccable timing of marty's firing. its not like the pick of available HC's was all that great a month ago, now its even worse. the SD job is a very attractive one, thats the only thing they have going for them right now.

[shally]

LOL at the impeccable timing of marty's firing. its not like the pick of available HC's was all that great a month ago, now its even worse. the SD job is a very attractive one, thats the only thing they have going for them right now.

agreed.. other than the sky high expectations, this is a great team overall

[SpicyMcHaggis]

It's a shame that they let Wade Phillips go before firing Marty..had they not they could have replaced Marty with the only coach out there with less playoff success than him..oh well..
:lol1:

[joethefan]

It's a shame that they let Wade Phillips go before firing Marty..had they not they could have replaced Marty with the only coach out there with less playoff success than him..oh well..
:lol1:
I can't wait to hear the speech....

"THERE's A GLEEM MEN...THERE'S A GLEEM!!!!!

On the other side of the door with Denny....who got crowned..

[Keino]

Piss Poor timing on this, they could have kept Phillips as a backup plan for them. Except Norval or Singletary to get a shot with them.

Apparently, the exodous of Cameron and Phillips is what led to this decision. The smart thing would've been to fire marty and retain Cameron, but by committing to Marty, they essentially opened the door for their assistants to bolt.

[S.Taylor36]

You gotta figure they are going to go after Pete Carroll. If he interviewed with Miami ealier you have to figure he'd definatley be open to interview with the Chargers and remaining in California. He has all the offense weapons any new coach could ever want.

[CNYSkinFan]

This was the right move to make about 4 weeks ago and a disastrous move to make now. Wow, I'm LMAO at the Chargers and Marty.
Exactly right. This means they miss out on all thre premium coordinators and college coaches.

As for Parcells he is still under contract at Dallas. neither him nor Cowher can be considered for at least a year.

[shally]

You gotta figure they are going to go after Pete Carroll. If he interviewed with Miami ealier you have to figure he'd definatley be open to interview with the Chargers and remaining in California. He has all the offense weapons any new coach could ever want.

maybe.. depends what carroll's asking price is...

[shally]

Exactly right. This means they miss out on all thre premium coordinators and college coaches.

As for Parcells he is still under contract at Dallas. neither him nor Cowher can be considered for at least a year.

i do not believe that ALL the qualified coaches are gone.. that is panic thinking and it leads to the selection of retreads like green or mooch or whatever.

there are guys out there who would make wonderful coaches. the SD front office needs to take a deep breath and go about this in an orderly fashion.
they have a plum.. guys will be lining up in droves. after all, there are only 32 of these jobs in the whole world, and 31 of them are filled right now.

[redskin_rich]

i do not believe that ALL the qualified coaches are gone.. that is panic thinking and it leads to the selection of retreads like green or mooch or whatever.

there are guys out there who would make wonderful coaches. the SD front office needs to take a deep breath and go about this in an orderly fashion.
they have a plum.. guys will be lining up in droves. after all, there are only 32 of these jobs in the whole world, and 31 of them are filled right now.
Sure, there are plenty of qualified coaches but going through the interview and whittling processes, as well as building a staff once the hire is made, will take weeks. Free agency starts in a couple of weeks and the draft is only a month in a half after that. That is a lot of time crunching and no matter what, the new coach will be playing catch up for a while.
Luckily, this is a very good team that is loaded with talent, so they don't have a lot of holes to fill but the flip side is that this team is expected to contend for a Championship and has to make the playoffs at the very least. They have to make sure they hire the right guy, the window doesn't stay open long in this era.

[CNYSkinFan]

You gotta knoW Al Saunders wished the offense really hummed last year or GW wished the defense was not so pathetic.

[RedskinRyan]

You gotta knoW Al Saunders wished the offense really hummed last year or GW wished the defense was not so pathetic.

hey dale lindsay is available

[CNYSkinFan]

hey dale lindsay is available
He can hire his mustache as offensive coordinator

[shally]

Sure, there are plenty of qualified coaches but going through the interview and whittling processes, as well as building a staff once the hire is made, will take weeks. Free agency starts in a couple of weeks and the draft is only a month in a half after that. That is a lot of time crunching and no matter what, the new coach will be playing catch up for a while.
Luckily, this is a very good team that is loaded with talent, so they don't have a lot of holes to fill but the flip side is that this team is expected to contend for a Championship and has to make the playoffs at the very least. They have to make sure they hire the right guy, the window doesn't stay open long in this era.

at this point in the off season i think it would be far more destructive if a team lost it's GM/personnel man.. free agency and draft is their department first and foremost on most teams..

not a good situation in SD, i agree.. but spanos made the correct choice by keeping smith and dumping marty if one had to go.. and from what is leaking out, it sounds as if this situatin should have been corrected a long time ago.. that is the flaw in the management

[BurgundyNGold]

Coaching candidates:

Mike Sherman
Mike Tice
Indy QB coach
Norval
Denny Green
Ron Rivera
You can cross Ron Rivera off of that list. The Bolts are built to be a 3-4 (a very good one) and Rivera runs a 4-3. They're not changing personnel and they likely can't play Merriman at DE. Frankly, I was surprised that so many thought Rivera might go to Dallass when they had the exact same situation with Ware.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

You can cross Ron Rivera off of that list. The Bolts are built to be a 3-4 (a very good one) and Rivera runs a 4-3. They're not changing personnel and they likely can't play Merriman at DE. Frankly, I was surprised that so many thought Rivera might go to Dallass when they had the exact same situation with Ware.
The only reason I thought it might work is because Rivera kept saying switching to a 3-4 would be no big deal to him, but maybe it's not as easy as he makes it out to be.

[hail2skins]

I say they should hire Al Saunders.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

I say they should hire Al Saunders.
You don't want him back? I think this offense could be great next year with him.

[remaxjon]

NFL Network reports the following as candidates:

Mooch
Mike Martz
Mike Sherman
Norval
Singletary
James Lofton


I heard Mort say June Jones would also be a candidate which I would love to see because he would bring Glanville with him and Glanville always made me laugh. Lets go June

[redskin_rich]

I heard Mort say June Jones would also be a candidate which I would love to see because he would bring Glanville with him and Glanville always made me laugh. Lets go June
June Jones??? Bring in a Run-N-Shoot specialist on a team that's best offensive players are it's RB and TE? That would be hilarious.

[BurgundyNGold]

June Jones??? Bring in a Run-N-Shoot specialist on a team that's best offensive players are it's RB and TE? That would be hilarious.
That would be competitive suicide. When you have LT and Antonio Gates you don't need much of a passing game and you can go 14-2. ;)

[SpicyMcHaggis]

I say they should hire Al Saunders.
By "say" do you mean "hope"?

[BurgundyNGold]

The only reason I thought it might work is because Rivera kept saying switching to a 3-4 would be no big deal to him, but maybe it's not as easy as he makes it out to be.
His reputation was built on a 4-3 defense running the Tampa 2 zone. I don't see how changing to a 3-4 would be "no big deal". He could play Cover 2, but the LB alignments would make it difficult if not impossible to run the Tampa 2. Running a 3-4 would be uncharted waters at best.

[remaxjon]

That would be competitive suicide. When you have LT and Antonio Gates you don't need much of a passing game and you can go 14-2. ;)


I think Gates could work in a run and shoot system for that matter I think he would be good in any system and LT would be fine. If I remember correctly a guy named Barry Sanders was in a run and shoot and he had a decent career and Glanville leaving Elvis tickets every game and saying things like do you know what NFL stands for Not for long if you keep making calls like that. This would almost be as good as Norv going back to the cowboys would have been.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

I think Gates could work in a run and shoot system for that matter I think he would be good in any system and LT would be fine. If I remember correctly a guy named Barry Sanders was in a run and shoot and he had a decent career and Glanville leaving Elvis tickets every game and saying things like do you know what NFL stands for Not for long if you keep making calls like that. This would almost be as good as Norv going back to the cowboys would have been.
The use the run and shoot absolutely does not mean that the team never runs the ball..there are many examples of that. The problem is that the run and shoot is incompatable with a strong defense.

[hail2skins]

By "say" do you mean "hope"?:Partyup: yes

[SpicyMcHaggis]

:Partyup: yes
Lol..yeah, I kinda imagined that...

[redskin_rich]

I think Gates could work in a run and shoot system for that matter I think he would be good in any system and LT would be fine. If I remember correctly a guy named Barry Sanders was in a run and shoot and he had a decent career and Glanville leaving Elvis tickets every game and saying things like do you know what NFL stands for Not for long if you keep making calls like that. This would almost be as good as Norv going back to the cowboys would have been.
One problem for Gates, the run-n-shoot doesn't use a TE. It could be altered to make Gates one of the 4 WR's but that wouldn't be the best use of Gates.
LT has been a great RB with a FB plowing the way for him. Why mess with that and make LT a RB that runs nothing but draws?
Also, June Jones worked under Glanville, why would Glanville come back after all these years to be an assistant?

[BurgundyNGold]

One problem for Gates, the run-n-shoot doesn't use a TE. It could be altered to make Gates one of the 4 WR's but that wouldn't be the best use of Gates.
LT has been a great RB with a FB plowing the way for him. Why mess with that and make LT a RB that runs nothing but draws?
Also, June Jones worked under Glanville, why would Glanville come back after all these years to be an assistant?
Exactly correct on your first 2 points. Also, the Bolts are built around a power running game. The linemen are all maulers and they have two of, if not the best TE and FB in the league. Them going to a Run-N-Shoot 15-20 years after it's heyday is sheer folly. I'm not even going to entertain this anymore.

[Canuck]

One problem for Gates, the run-n-shoot doesn't use a TE. It could be altered to make Gates one of the 4 WR's but that wouldn't be the best use of Gates.
LT has been a great RB with a FB plowing the way for him. Why mess with that and make LT a RB that runs nothing but draws?
Also, June Jones worked under Glanville, why would Glanville come back after all these years to be an assistant?

Glanville is currently June Jones' DC in Hawaii.

[redskin_rich]

Glanville is currently June Jones' DC in Hawaii.
Wow, I had no idea. I guess the man needs to work...

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Glanville is currently June Jones' DC in Hawaii.
They have a DC at Hawaii?? Is he as important as the runningbacks coach?

[remaxjon]

They have a DC at Hawaii?? Is he as important as the runningbacks coach?


I just did a quick google search and Glanville has made a huge difference in Hawaii.

2005 gave up 35.7 points a game without Glanville

2006 with Glanville 24.1

I know I'm reaching but this would be great. June and an updated version of the run and shoot with Glanville acting like a clown on the sideline.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

I just did a quick google search and Glanville has made a huge difference in Hawaii.

2005 gave up 35.7 points a game without Glanville

2006 with Glanville 24.1

I know I'm reaching but this would be great. June and an updated version of the run and shoot with Glanville acting like a clown on the sideline.
Hey, not bad!!

[shally]

Glanville is currently June Jones' DC in Hawaii.

waiting for elvis still ??

[The Game]

The SD radio is reporting it might be mariucci,ted cortell, norv and maybe a dark horse rex ryan.

[chrisbcbu]

i wouldnt be suprised if SD tried to lure Pete Carroll. This would be his best chance for the NFL, and he wouldnt have to do that much rebuilding. The players are already set.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

The SD radio is reporting it might be mariucci,ted cortell, norv and maybe a dark horse rex ryan.
None of those candidates inspire much confidence. Although Rex Ryan would be interesting. SD made a major mistake waiting so long to pull the trigger.

[CNYSkinFan]

i wouldnt be suprised if SD tried to lure Pete Carroll. This would be his best chance for the NFL, and he wouldnt have to do that much rebuilding. The players are already set.
That seems logical but Pete Carroll wants complete control (for some reason) and SD got rid of a guy for wanting complete control. Carroll will be better off waiting for the NY giants spot to open up or SF.

[The Game]

That seems logical but Pete Carroll wants complete control (for some reason) and SD got rid of a guy for wanting complete control. Carroll will be better off waiting for the NY giants spot to open up or SF.


carrol made it clear hes staying at SC during recruiting. AJ smith is an al davis/jerry jones type GM but arrogant so what ever coach is hired it will be done by him and he will hire and appoint the staff. I dont no if you guys no this but AJ smith ran off rodney harrison,seau and donnie edwards and was said to be a jerk to alot of FAs agents. The final blow the double XX radio is reporting was Aj smith wanted ted cortell to be the DC and marty wanted his brother and they faught over it and marty got fired. Im thinking ted cortell may be there new HC especially since he runs a 3-4, aj smith and spanos said that the new coach will need to run a 3-4.

[Canuck]

carrol made it clear hes staying at SC during recruiting. AJ smith is an al davis/jerry jones type GM but arrogant so what ever coach is hired it will be done by him and he will hire and appoint the staff. I dont no if you guys no this but AJ smith ran off rodney harrison,seau and donnie edwards and was said to be a jerk to alot of FAs agents. The final blow the double XX radio is reporting was Aj smith wanted ted cortell to be the DC and marty wanted his brother and they faught over it and marty got fired. Im thinking ted cortell may be there new HC especially since he runs a 3-4, aj smith and spanos said that the new coach will need to run a 3-4.

If the part in bold is true then this rules out Pete Carrol. Carrol's defensive philophy is more of a 4-3 style.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

carrol made it clear hes staying at SC during recruiting. AJ smith is an al davis/jerry jones type GM but arrogant so what ever coach is hired it will be done by him and he will hire and appoint the staff. I dont no if you guys no this but AJ smith ran off rodney harrison,seau and donnie edwards and was said to be a jerk to alot of FAs agents. The final blow the double XX radio is reporting was Aj smith wanted ted cortell to be the DC and marty wanted his brother and they faught over it and marty got fired. Im thinking ted cortell may be there new HC especially since he runs a 3-4, aj smith and spanos said that the new coach will need to run a 3-4.
Peter King commented on Kurt Shott becoming the DC for Marty, and that being the final straw. Mary was always good at nepotism.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/peter_king/02/13/marty/index.html

[skinsfan36]

this is a good decision but they waited to long but they are the most talented team in football so the job could appeal to some that werent interested in any other jobs(college coaches)

[shally]

If the part in bold is true then this rules out Pete Carrol. Carrol's defensive philophy is more of a 4-3 style.

good point.. but i do not seriously think that carroll will be in the running

[shally]

Peter King commented on Kurt Shott becoming the DC for Marty, and that being the final straw. Mary was always good at nepotism.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/peter_king/02/13/marty/index.html

well.. that is one vote i might give to marty.. i am not a big fan of cottrell..

[skinsfan36]

apparently a few names being tossed around are mike singletary,norv turner. id like to see singletary get that job

[WarEagle]

good point.. but i do not seriously think that carroll will be in the running

Pete Carroll is a great college coach. He didn't do so well with the Patriots, but he was hampered by QB Drew Bledsoe. I can see him moving to SD if he has personal challenge issues. "With a competent QB, I can win a Super Bowl..." kinda thing.

[The Game]

Pete Carroll is a great college coach. He didn't do so well with the Patriots, but he was hampered by QB Drew Bledsoe. I can see him moving to SD if he has personal challenge issues. "With a competent QB, I can win a Super Bowl..." kinda thing.


Chargers | Carroll not an option
Tue, 13 Feb 2007 14:26:41 -0800

ESPN's John Clayton reports USC head coach Pete Carroll is not a candidate for the San Diego Chargers' vacant head coach position.



carrol will not go there.

I think ted cortell,jim halslett or norv is going to get that job.
Pete likes a 4-3 defense also.

[shally]

Pete Carroll is a great college coach. He didn't do so well with the Patriots, but he was hampered by QB Drew Bledsoe. I can see him moving to SD if he has personal challenge issues. "With a competent QB, I can win a Super Bowl..." kinda thing.

not unless they give him control, plus the keys to the vault.. smith is going young, not a coach who has the chops to tell him NO again..
that is why norv aint coming there.

singletary is a big reach but has character.

i still think that they opt for sarkasian or chow inthe end

[HanburgerBum]

WOW, I didn't even realize that the Chargers have nobody in place for head coach right now. LOL didn't these guys just go 14-2 this past year? Man, the NFL is harsh.


While I would normally agree that going 14-2 should get a coach an extension rather than shown the door, Marty is an exception. He is a good regularly season coach, as evidenced by his 18 playoff teams. But, he has proven that he can't win in the playoffs. Eighteen chances and not a single appearance in the championship game.

His 5-13 playoff record is by any standard dismal. And, it is not just a matter of bad luck or circumstances. I believe two things characterize his coaching style that make him unsuccessful in postseason.

1) Marty's close to the vest, mistake-free football works well in regular season, since he will play a lot of mediocre and bad teams then. But, in the playoffs, there are usually no bad teams. It takes boldness and creativity to advance in the playoffs.

2) Marty doesn't think well on his feet. His coaching and time management in the last 7-8 minutes of the NE playoff game (probably the last one in his career) was beneath high school level. The absurd challenge after the interception/fumble wasted a timeout. And, then, with still at least one timeout left, Marty allowed NE to run the clock down from 1:50 to 1:10 before kicking what proved to be the winning FG. And, what cost the Chargers to lose? They ran out of time at the end and had to try a 54 yard FG instead of getting closer.

While the timing of Marty's firing may leave something to be desired, getting rid of him before wasting another season in playoff futility is nevertheless the smart thing to do. There are still plenty of qualified coaches out there who can win the SB with the present SD roster. Parcells, Cowher, Carroll come to mind (Jimmy Johnson would be the one I would go after). Even a young unknown head coach can win it all. SD doesn't necessarily need a great coach, they just need someone who won't get in the way. Remember, Barry Switzer won the SB with the Cowboys!

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not unless they give him control, plus the keys to the vault.. smith is going young, not a coach who has the chops to tell him NO again..
that is why norv aint coming there.

singletary is a big reach but has character.

i still think that they opt for sarkasian or chow inthe end

shows how much I know... what a lame-azz choice