Akh's Fantasy Baseball

[akhhorus]

Limited number of spots, less stat categories than last year(and no more stupid ones like holds), on yahoo, autopick draft, people who have played in my leagues before get first preference on spots. Also: serious players only please, don't give up by the all star break. PM me for details.

[FanFromArizona]

Im registered...."bravesresurgence".

ill post when my selections are in order.

[PGiddy18]

i'll attempt it again

[csquared]

Let me know

[FanFromArizona]

LMAO. Stephen Drew ranked ahead of JD Drew.

[akhhorus]

How many people would be interested in a live draft?

[smoot]

How many people would be interested in a live draft?
i definitely would

[akhhorus]

i definitely would

Ok, a couple others let me know that they would prefer that, so the draft will be on March 3rd at 4.00 pm.

[csquared]

Sounds good to me.

[FanFromArizona]

Ok, a couple others let me know that they would prefer that, so the draft will be on March 3rd at 4.00 pm.

that's a Saturday, and I am assuming that is Eastern Coast Time?

For the record, how many teams will be in the league and how many players does each team draft?

[akhhorus]

that's a Saturday, and I am assuming that is Eastern Coast Time?

For the record, how many teams will be in the league and how many players does each team draft?

Yeah, 1pm your time. There's a max of 16 teams in the league and its 16 starting players with about 4-5 players on the bench.

[FanFromArizona]

Yeah, 1pm your time. There's a max of 16 teams in the league and its 16 starting players with about 4-5 players on the bench.

Actually, Arizona does not do the DST thing, so we are 2 hours behind right now(until everyone else springs ahead and we don't). I was just trying to calculate how many selections I need to enter with: 256.

(16 teams x 16 players means I need to have 256 possibilities).

[FanFromArizona]

When will you let us know the draft rankings? (As in, who gets the first pick, all the way down to the 16th pick)

[patriots_afc_champs]

Lets all hope for a great season and no injuries.lol. it would mess up our chances

[akhhorus]

When will you let us know the draft rankings? (As in, who gets the first pick, all the way down to the 16th pick)

We won't know until the draft opens up.

[CNYSkinFan]

I would like SOME pitching this year. I was an average offensive team last year but ranked dead last in every pitching category.

[akhhorus]

Ok, turns out I can determine draft order, so I have some thoughts on the subject:

I could....
A-do nothing and keep it completely random
B-do a random draw
C-Do a random draw and not tell y'all
D-Do a draw based on my total whims(my personal favorite) and thinking about telling y'all later about it

Thoughts(lol)?

[FanFromArizona]

Ok, turns out I can determine draft order, so I have some thoughts on the subject:

I could....
A-do nothing and keep it completely random
B-do a random draw
C-Do a random draw and not tell y'all
D-Do a draw based on my total whims(my personal favorite) and thinking about telling y'all later about it

Thoughts(lol)?

"The voice of the people has been said to be the voice of God; and, however generally this maxim has been quoted and believed, it is not true to fact. The people are turbulent and changing, they seldom judge or determine right. "

-Alexander Hamilton.

[FanFromArizona]

Ok, turns out I can determine draft order, so I have some thoughts on the subject:

I could....
A-do nothing and keep it completely random
B-do a random draw
C-Do a random draw and not tell y'all
D-Do a draw based on my total whims(my personal favorite) and thinking about telling y'all later about it

Thoughts(lol)?

Is the verdict in?

[danny's stogie]

Is the verdict in?

As defending champ I've determined that I get to choose which pick I get, the verdict is in.

Anyways, who else is in the league? I see akh, myself, FFA, csquared, CNY, smoot, PGiddy, Carmike, skinfanjon. That leaves 2 unknowns.

Also, I encourage everyone to show up for the draft. It was a lot of fun trash talking and shooting the breeze on yahoo for a few hours last year.

[akhhorus]

As defending champ I've determined that I get to choose which pick I get, the verdict is in.

Anyways, who else is in the league? I see akh, myself, FFA, csquared, CNY, smoot, PGiddy, Carmike, skinfanjon. That leaves 2 unknowns.

Also, I encourage everyone to show up for the draft. It was a lot of fun trash talking and shooting the breeze on yahoo for a few hours last year.

Alibabba is one and FFA's son is the other.

I'm still thinking about what to do about the draft. I'm sure you'll find out on friday. Maybe.

[danny's stogie]

Oh poo, FFA how old is your son? Do I need to change my team name from the sheep farmers to something more appropriate?

No matter what you decide, akh, it would be great to have advance notice so I can plan accordingly.

[akhhorus]

Oh poo, FFA how old is your son? Do I need to change my team name from the sheep farmers to something more appropriate?

No matter what you decide, akh, it would be great to have advance notice so I can plan accordingly.

I'll decide Friday afternoon at the latest.

[FanFromArizona]

Alibabba is one and FFA's son is the other.

I'm still thinking about what to do about the draft. I'm sure you'll find out on friday. Maybe.

My son dropped out. Decided there was too much work and effort needed to be successful.

[FanFromArizona]

Oh poo, FFA how old is your son? Do I need to change my team name from the sheep farmers to something more appropriate?

No matter what you decide, akh, it would be great to have advance notice so I can plan accordingly.

Yeah, go ahead and change it to Luv2BLast. Let the smack talk begin! :sfight:

My son withdrew, so keep any name you like.

[FanFromArizona]

I'll decide Friday afternoon at the latest.

Will check when I get home. How many teams are allowed? We are currently at 11.

[akhhorus]

Will check when I get home. How many teams are allowed? We are currently at 11.

16

[danny's stogie]

So 14 players now, man up folks and announce your team.

And a reminder to everyone: SHOW UP TO THE DRAFT!!

[smoot]

So 14 players now, man up folks and announce your team.

And a reminder to everyone: SHOW UP TO THE DRAFT!!
theres a good chance i wont be able to be active for the draft (spring break in myrtle beach :Pickle: ), but i'll certaintly try

[BurgundyNGold]

theres a good chance i wont be able to be active for the draft (spring break in myrtle beach :Pickle: ), but i'll certaintly try
I don't think Akh likes to hear about other men trying to sex up his SC, lol.

[smoot]

I don't think Akh likes to hear about other men trying to sex up his SC, lol.
well.......according to some newer posters recently, akh is a she ;)

[akhhorus]

well.......according to some newer posters recently, akh is a she ;)

?? This is why they should lock membership lol.

[redskin_rich]

Freaks of Science is my team.

[CarMike]

CalLuke here

[CarMike]

OMT, i'll be available for the live draft akh

[akhhorus]

Out of sheer whimsy, I set the draft order:
1. Schrute
2. Smoot
3. CalLuke
4. Bozangelos S
5. Disgruntled
6. bravesresurg
7. Akh-Bots
8. Freaks of Sc
9. Skinfanjon
10. Cubbies
11. Broken Bats
12. Billy Ripken
13. CNYSkinFan
14. Peter Gammons

We might have one more player, if so, then I'll redo it.

[danny's stogie]

Also folks, a reminder to set your draft order on yahoo if you don't plan on making the draft.

I apologize to akh for trying to take over his league.

[AliBabba]

Also folks, a reminder to set your draft order on yahoo if you don't plan on making the draft.

I apologize to akh for trying to take over his league.

What time is that by the way?

[akhhorus]

What time is that by the way?

4pm tomorrow.

[danny's stogie]

What time is that by the way?

4EST, correct?

But you need to go into yahoo and test your system's compatability with the draft program before then.

[FanFromArizona]

Out of sheer whimsy, I set the draft order:
1. Schrute
2. Smoot
3. CalLuke
4. Bozangelos S
5. Disgruntled
6. bravesresurg
7. Akh-Bots
8. Freaks of Sc
9. Skinfanjon
10. Cubbies
11. Broken Bats
12. Billy Ripken
13. CNYSkinFan
14. Peter Gammons

We might have one more player, if so, then I'll redo it.

LOL, I always seem to get the slot 6. Hopefully it'll be a winner.

[akhhorus]

LOL, I always seem to get the slot 6. Hopefully it'll be a winner.

I can swap you into spot 10 if you want?

[FanFromArizona]

I can swap you into spot 10 if you want?

Let me respond with an emphatic NO!

I was just posting that every draft I participate in I have always gotten the sixth position. Must be karma.

[danny's stogie]

LOL, I always seem to get the slot 6. Hopefully it'll be a winner.

I'd trade my 1st and 2nd rounders for yours.

[csquared]

Will the draft order go down then back up and so on? I got me #11

[danny's stogie]

Will the draft order go down then back up and so on? I got me #11

It's a snake order.

[FanFromArizona]

I'd trade my 1st and 2nd rounders for yours.

I am actually eyeing a player at that spot. Hopefully he will still be there when it's my turn.

[danny's stogie]

I am actually eyeing a player at that spot. Hopefully he will still be there when it's my turn.

I'll probably take him at 4 if you don't want to trade.

[csquared]

FFA Sammy Sosa will be there when you pick 6. Sorry to let your secret out.

[FanFromArizona]

FFA Sammy Sosa will be there when you pick 6. Sorry to let your secret out.

Im going with the ghost of Thurman Munson actually. Argh, the secret is out.

[danny's stogie]

FFA Sammy Sosa will be there when you pick 6. Sorry to let your secret out.

He'd be a good pick too at 6 if he's been hooked up with the HGH during his retirement.

[akhhorus]

Hmm...maybe I should re-do the draft order to keep things interesting.

[csquared]

AKH i agree as long as i move up :lol1:

[FanFromArizona]

I'll probably take him at 4 if you don't want to trade.

We'll find out in 2 hours, won't we?

[danny's stogie]

Hmm...maybe I should re-do the draft order to keep things interesting.

Please don't make me redo my draft board.


You might want to add holds as category though because of how deep this league is. There's nothing but middle relief in the latter stages of this draft.

[akhhorus]

Please don't make me redo my draft board.


You might want to add holds as category though because of how deep this league is. There's nothing but middle relief in the latter stages of this draft.

Thats why I kept appearances.

And I might change up the draft order...we'll see.

[FanFromArizona]

Hmm...maybe I should re-do the draft order to keep things interesting.

you'll have to whip out that devil's avatar if you do.:rpunch:

[danny's stogie]

Good god, I can't believe I'm sitting here ranking Jay Payton and Jason Marquis. Cap this league at 14. 322 is low enough, 390 players drafted is insane.

[akhhorus]

Good god, I can't believe I'm sitting here ranking Jay Payton and Jason Marquis. Cap this league at 14. 322 is low enough, 390 players drafted is insane.

Personally, I'm leaving it up to how much Guinness is in my system :lol1:

[danny's stogie]

Personally, I'm leaving it up to how much Guinness is in my system :lol1:

You drink beer now?

[csquared]

Yea AKH beer?? Beer is for sissy's isnt it?? :lol1:

[akhhorus]

You drink beer now?

I don't consider guinness a beer.

Yea AKH beer?? Beer is for sissy's isnt it??

Yep. Still is.

[danny's stogie]

I don't consider guinness a beer.



Yep. Still is.

When you go back to school you skip the Crystal and go to the Busch Light. No shame in cheep beer when you go from post-collegiate income to grad student income.

[csquared]

Im gonna have to get me some crown to sip on while im drafting. So if you notice me taking longer or drafting Ronnie Belliard as my starting 2nd baseman you will know why. :lol1:

[csquared]

When you go back to school you skip the Crystal and go to the Busch Light. No shame in cheep beer when you go from post-collegiate income to grad student income.
I actually like Busch Light. Id take that over almost any other domestic beer.

[danny's stogie]

I actually like Busch Light. Id take that over almost any other domestic beer.

Honestly, it's not just the taste with Busch Light, it's how easily it goes down. It's gotta be at least 95% water so it's the only beer that actually hydrates you.

[akhhorus]

When you go back to school you skip the Crystal and go to the Busch Light. No shame in cheep beer when you go from post-collegiate income to grad student income.

If becky caught me drinking that, it would be dead akh walking. Pass. I like breathing.

[csquared]

I take that back. Id rather have Sam Adams Cherry Wheat over any beer. Busch Light is cheap, tastes good, goes down easy.

[FanFromArizona]

Honestly, it's not just the taste with Busch Light, it's how easily it goes down. It's gotta be at least 95% water so it's the only beer that actually hydrates you.


Give me my Budweiser, Pacifico and JD and I'm good to go.

[danny's stogie]

I take that back. Id rather have Sam Adams Cherry Wheat over any beer. Busch Light is cheap, tastes good, goes down easy.

Cherry Wheat :garcia:

[akhhorus]

Cherry Wheat :garcia:

Only with a soy milk chaser lmao.

[csquared]

:lol1: On tap its even better.

[danny's stogie]

:lol1: On tap its even better.

The soy milk or the fruit beer?

[csquared]

Fruit beer. Under an hour to go.

[FanFromArizona]

Draft is open for entry. Im grabbing my lunch and getting ready to RUMBLE!

[danny's stogie]

Fun draft guys. Dustin got his pitching. Smoot made an appearance from his home at motel 6. Akh still drafts players 4 rounds too high. Didn't get my boy, but got a close second.

[danny's stogie]

I have several closers and I see that a lot of teams don't have any. I'm willing to make deals.

[akhhorus]

Fun draft guys. Dustin got his pitching. Smoot made an appearance from his home at motel 6. Akh still drafts players 4 rounds too high. Didn't get my boy, but got a close second.

Who? Cuddyer? Verlander? My flyers worked out rather well last year.

[danny's stogie]

Who? Cuddyer? Verlander? My flyers worked out rather well last year.

Cuddyer, but I'm just messing with you and king felix.

[CNYSkinFan]

Sorry for bailing part of the way through guys....I actually had a dog emergency...had a stray dog show up in our yard to play with ours. No collar and no ids, very young like 6 months old. It is very cold out here in Syracuse. This is very odd, we are doing the normal steps of reporting a found dog, this dog has to have a home, very polite and very healthy. I bet it broke off a chain somewhere. It is neutered as well so someone has to be caring for it.

[redskin_rich]

I enjoyed my short time in the draft with you foul-mouthed bastards, lol.
Don't worry, just because I am clueless on the talent of the players doesn't mean I will neglect my responsibility to my team and this league at all during the course of the season. Anyone here who has been in any fantasy leagues with me knows that I am not a quitter and always do my best to be competitive.
Besides, this gives me a reason to follow baseball this year.

[skinfanjon]

I enjoyed my short time in the draft with you foul-mouthed bastards, lol.
Don't worry, just because I am clueless on the talent of the players doesn't mean I will neglect my responsibility to my team and this league at all during the course of the season. Anyone here who has been in any fantasy leagues with me knows that I am not a quitter and always do my best to be competitive.
Besides, this gives me a reason to follow baseball this year.

Ditto that Rich! I know very little about baseball, but I'm looking forward to playing all the same. From what some are saying, compatent free agents are scarce, so I hope my draft was good. I had to work so I was unfortuntely unable to attend.

[danny's stogie]

It'll be a great way to get back in the game. On lazy summer afternoons I'd have stattracker going and mlbtv and I'd switch around to watch all of my players. At one point late in the season I had my starting rotation throwing one a night so I always had a game to follow.

[FanFromArizona]

I enjoyed my short time in the draft with you foul-mouthed bastards, lol.Don't worry, just because I am clueless on the talent of the players doesn't mean I will neglect my responsibility to my team and this league at all during the course of the season. Anyone here who has been in any fantasy leagues with me knows that I am not a quitter and always do my best to be competitive.
Besides, this gives me a reason to follow baseball this year.


Let the trash talking commence. The fun thing about participating is that you develop a bond with your players and opponents alike.

[danny's stogie]

Let the trash talking commence. The fun thing about participating is that you develop a bond with your players and opponents alike.

Actually, after looking over my roster -- now, don't get me wrong, I love the team I drafted -- I don't have many players worth watching on a regular basis. My top players are on the Marlins, Nats, Brewers, I have good players from the ChiSox and Twins, but that's it.

[csquared]

I may have to look at trading power for pitching. I have a true National league team.

[akhhorus]

I may have to look at trading power for pitching. I have a true National league team.

Willing to part with Mag Ordonez, interested in Harden. Make me an offer.

[csquared]

Willing to part with Mag Ordonez, interested in Harden. Make me an offer.
I cant take Mags. Im talking big power. Nobody on my team hit 30 hr's last year. I mean i see Wright hitting over 30 this year. Jacobs also should hit 30 and Bonds should hit 30 if healthy. I need me a 40-50 hr guy if i can swing it.

[akhhorus]

I cant take Mags. Im talking big power. Nobody on my team hit 30 hr's last year. I mean i see Wright hitting over 30 this year. Jacobs also should hit 30 and Bonds should hit 30 if healthy. I need me a 40-50 hr guy if i can swing it.

Willing to discuss Ryan Howard. But it will cost you.

[danny's stogie]

Konerko and Thome are available, but I'd want bats in return. Make an offer.

[csquared]

CNY i sent you a trade. Nothing big at all. Swapping bench players.

[danny's stogie]

Don't do it Dustin.

[danny's stogie]

csquared, fun doing business with you, but don't expect to get 40 homeruns for 50 cents to the dollar. An average of 10 players have hit 40 homers the last two seasons, 9 in 05 and 11 in 06. We might be able to get something done if you propose realistic trade offers like the first one I made. Until then, WHO WANTS LYLE OVERBAY?!?!

[danny's stogie]

Damn, Broken Bats, I was watching him.

[csquared]

I hear ya but i felt i was giving up too much and not getting enough in return. The last offer you sent would work if the OF you put in there was replaced with somebody else. At this point im happy with my team. Emil Brown is a quality OF and Wiggington will fit nice because he plays a bunch of different positions. Im still open to trades though so if anyone has offers im willing to listen.

[danny's stogie]

I hear ya but i felt i was giving up too much and not getting enough in return. The last offer you sent would work if the OF you put in there was replaced with somebody else. At this point im happy with my team. Emil Brown is a quality OF and Wiggington will fit nice because he plays a bunch of different positions. Im still open to trades though so if anyone has offers im willing to listen.

Rios instead of Markakis?

But good god man, Brad Penny for a starting OF, you had to have been joking.

[csquared]

Rios instead of Markakis?

But good god man, Brad Penny for a starting OF, you had to have been joking.
Penny had 16 wins last year. More than any of your pitchers. And now with Schmidt there he will be like 2nd or 3rd in the rotation. Meaning he should get 16 wins again this year facing 2nd or 3rd starters from the opposing teams.

[danny's stogie]

Penny had 16 wins last year. More than any of your pitchers. And now with Schmidt there he will be like 2nd or 3rd in the rotation. Meaning he should get 16 wins again this year facing 2nd or 3rd starters from the opposing teams.

With a 1.4 whip and 4.3 ERA in the craptacular NL. If he gets 16 wins again I'd be shocked.

[danny's stogie]

My trade with FFA went down, Dice-K for Jenks. I still have 5 closers left though. If anyone wants one go ahead and contact me.

[FanFromArizona]

My trade with FFA went down, Dice-K for Jenks. I still have 5 closers left though. If anyone wants one go ahead and contact me.

Piniero is looking a little shaky, his hold on the closer role is questionable at best.

[danny's stogie]

Piniero is looking a little shaky, his hold on the closer role is questionable at best.

I have more faith in Piniero to get his act together. Timlin is cooked, imo.

[skinfanjon]

I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure my team sucks. This will probably be a looooong season. BTW, Nathan and Wagner are both available to anyone who needs a reliever, but I gotta get something valuable in return.

[akhhorus]

I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure my team sucks. This will probably be a looooong season. BTW, Nathan and Wagner are both available to anyone who needs a reliever, but I gotta get something valuable in return.

I actually think you have a good team, but its dependent on Harang and Helton carrying it. I made you an offer.

[danny's stogie]

I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure my team sucks. This will probably be a looooong season. BTW, Nathan and Wagner are both available to anyone who needs a reliever, but I gotta get something valuable in return.

I don't think your team is that bad. You've got some pretty good bats, but a lot depends on how Abreau holds up, if Chavez and Helton can bounce back, and if Lee, who's notoriously lazy, doesn't use his big contract as an excuse to slack off.

Anyways, I sent you a trade offer.

[remaxjon]

wow my team sucks. I need some power if anyone is interested. Everyone is on the block.

[danny's stogie]

wow my team sucks. I need some power if anyone is interested. Everyone is on the block.

Thome and Konerko are available for the right price, and per usual, everyone is available. Make me an offer.

[danny's stogie]

Let the Chipper Jones injury roller coaster begin again: he sprained his ankle yesterday. Dustin, let me know if you want some hitting.

[smoot]

alright, im loving my team but i could use a few things....

looking to add a Closer and and Catcher, i've got plenty of depth at outfield that i'd be willing to pawn off to get one of those two, feel free to shoot me a trade

[FanFromArizona]

CC Sabathia for Tankersley and Izzy? OUCH! :shakes head: A proven pitcher for 2 relief pitchers with injury issues? Big risk in my book. Shoulder soreness in Tanks and Izzy returning back from injury? Tanks is COMPETING for the closers position.
And rumors are that Benitez is on his way to Florida, and his replacement in SF? None other than who DS picked up today,
Brian Wilson. http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/5290/news

That trade is going to hurt you smoot. Who is your third starting pitcher?
Now you have 2 starting pitchers(Clemons might not be coming back), and a plethora of relief pitching.

And you just strengthened the defending champ, who is mopping up on relief pitchers.

And whatever happened to the 3 day rule Akh?

[akhhorus]

CC Sabathia for Tankersley and Izzy? OUCH! :shakes head: A proven pitcher for 2 relief pitchers with injury issues? Big risk in my book. Shoulder soreness in Tanks and Izzy returning back from injury? Tanks is COMPETING for the closers position.

Sabathia is a risk also. Its a fair deal, risk for risk.

That trade is going to hurt you smoot. Who is your third starting pitcher?
Now you have 2 starting pitchers(Clemons might not be coming back), and a plethora of relief pitching.

And you just strengthened the defending champ, who is mopping up on relief pitchers.

No, Smoot gave up Sabathia for Tank and Izzy. Sheep boy cut into his relievers because he basically had to with his SPs before this deal.

And whatever happened to the 3 day rule Akh?

I don't remember any such rule. Ive always had final say over deals.

[FanFromArizona]

Sabathia is a risk also. Its a fair deal, risk for risk.



No, Smoot gave up Sabathia for Tank and Izzy. Sheep boy cut into his relievers because he basically had to with his SPs before this deal.



I don't remember any such rule. Ive always had final say over deals.

I thought there was a review period where a trade could be discussed.
Per http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/baseball/rules/brules-17.html,

"If the offer is accepted, the entire league will be notified and managers/commissioners can review the deal. In a Public League, an objection of four or more managers within two days will veto the trade. In a Custom League, either the league managers or the commissioner have veto power for the length of time chosen during configuration.".....

EDIT: Nevermind. Trade Review Setting is Commissioner only.

I think Sheep Boy "fleeced" Smoot on this deal...but I guess time will tell.
I don't see CC with as much risk as the other 2. (and relief pitching was not really a need for smoot).

[akhhorus]

I thought there was a review period where a trade could be discussed.
Per http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/baseball/rules/brules-17.html,

"If the offer is accepted, the entire league will be notified and managers/commissioners can review the deal. In a Public League, an objection of four or more managers within two days will veto the trade. In a Custom League, either the league managers or the commissioner have veto power for the length of time chosen during configuration.".....

EDIT: Nevermind. Trade Review Setting is Commissioner only.

I think Sheep Boy "fleeced" Smoot on this deal...but I guess time will tell.
I don't see CC with as much risk as the other 2. (and relief pitching was not really a need for smoot).

Yes it was for Smoot. Putz was his only closer and he has arm probs(along with a poor team). Sabathia is an okay starter, but nothing special.

[danny's stogie]

CC Sabathia for Tankersley and Izzy? OUCH! :shakes head: A proven pitcher for 2 relief pitchers with injury issues? Big risk in my book. Shoulder soreness in Tanks and Izzy returning back from injury? Tanks is COMPETING for the closers position.
And rumors are that Benitez is on his way to Florida, and his replacement in SF? None other than who DS picked up today,
Brian Wilson. http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/5290/news

That trade is going to hurt you smoot. Who is your third starting pitcher?
Now you have 2 starting pitchers(Clemons might not be coming back), and a plethora of relief pitching.

And you just strengthened the defending champ, who is mopping up on relief pitchers.

And whatever happened to the 3 day rule Akh?

It's a risk for me too. I gave up a potential total of 60 saves in this deal.

Benitez is rumored to go to Boston, Fla, with Seattle as the current favorite. If Benitez doesn't go to Fla Tanks WILL be the closer. He's far and away better than Nolansco and Gregg, and Lindstrom is a huge question mark. I don't think I've seen a single report out there that has anyone but Tank as the closer that isn't simply trying to stir the pot about him coming back from injury.

As for Izzy, yeah he's coming back from hip surgery, but there isn't a chance in hell he loses the job unless he gets injured again. There is no one in St. Louis capable of taking over for him now that Wainwright is in the rotation. And the St. Louis SP is even more suspect than their bullpen so why would they move Wainwright to the back end?

And how is my picking up Wilson supposed to have any bearing on this trade? I didn't have benetiz.

As for strengthening the defending champ, no one here makes deals if they don't feel it strengthens their own team as well. Putz might be down for the count leaving Smoot with no closers at all so you're looking through blinders if you don't understand how both sides benefit from this deal.

But then again this is typical of fantasy leagues, pass judgment about other deals rather than being pro-active about improving a person's own team.

[danny's stogie]

I think Sheep Boy "fleeced" Smoot on this deal...but I guess time will tell.
I don't see CC with as much risk as the other 2. (and relief pitching was not really a need for smoot).

What? You don't see CC as having risk? The guy is perpetually 40 pounds overweight and has struggled with injury throughout his career. If he didn't have these huge red flags he'd be ranked much higher and no way would someone like smoot even consider this deal.

That said, I had him last year and he was a royal pain in the arse until mid-season. I happen to like him a lot though so I was willing to put up with it.

[danny's stogie]

That trade is going to hurt you smoot. Who is your third starting pitcher?
Now you have 2 starting pitchers(Clemons might not be coming back), and a plethora of relief pitching.



As for this part, it's not this trade that hurt his pitching, it's the fact that he wasn't carrying enough starters or closers to begin with. Before the trade he had 3.5 starters (Clemens being the half), 1 closer, and 2 middle relief pitchers. Now he has 2.5 starters, Putz, Izzy, and Tank, and 2 relievers that have zero chance of closing unless Street and Jones get injured. Now at least he has more useful pitchers and can pick up a few starters off of waivers. So if anything this trade helped him get closer to an acceptable number of useful pitchers.

[smoot]

there red flags going for every player involved in this trade, however, it was really an attempt to shore up weaknesses for both teams. i was quite happy with my starters, i'll be estatic when clemens signs with a team...but my bullpen was atrocious. putz was my only closer and there a chance he may lose his job.

due to this trade, i've solidified a glaring weakess, leaving few needs to be adressed.

Meanwhile......i am now looking to add a decent pitcher to fill sabathia's role and a decent, starting caliber catcher. Freaks of Science, i sent you a trade offer (not a real one though, i sent it so i could message your team, but im interested in either of your catchers.

[smoot]

As for this part, it's not this trade that hurt his pitching, it's the fact that he wasn't carrying enough starters or closers to begin with. Before the trade he had 3.5 starters (Clemens being the half), 1 closer, and 2 middle relief pitchers. Now he has 2.5 starters, Putz, Izzy, and Tank, and 2 relievers that have zero chance of closing unless Street and Jones get injured. Now at least he has more useful pitchers and can pick up a few starters off of waivers. So if anything this trade helped him get closer to an acceptable number of useful pitchers.

bingo, i made the same kind of moves in our basketball league, and its worked of beautifully. im not doing anything blind, theres a plan in motion

[FanFromArizona]

Let me start by saying that if *I* was the owner of CC I would not have agreed to the trade.

But since I was not the owner, I will go on record as saying that if the two players agreed to do the trade because they believed it would help themselves out, then all the power to them.

Please don't let my opinions get in the way of making trades. If each player thought it was fair and each was willing to click on the "Accept Trade" button, then that is their right.

[danny's stogie]

Let me start by saying that if *I* was the owner of CC I would not have agreed to the trade.

But since I was not the owner, I will go on record as saying that if the two players agreed to do the trade because they believed it would help themselves out, then all the power to them.

Please don't let my opinions get in the way of making trades. If each player thought it was fair and each was willing to click on the "Accept Trade" button, then that is their right.

Thanks FFA. And let me start by saying that if I had Dice-K and someone offered me Jenks I wouldn't have made that deal, but it without a doubt makes sense for both parties involved and each of us probably thought we were getting the better end of the deal or else we wouldn't have made it.

Also, for those people who are new to this league, akh has before canceled deals out of protection to those involved. There is some level of subjectivity to this, but it beats the heck out of league voted vetoes that do nothing, but play the whole balance of power thing. Thanks for the soap box, I will now relinquish my commish title. :D

[PGiddy18]

I need pitching.... all offers will be considered.

[danny's stogie]

lol, FFA. Is Linebrink a preemptive strike? :D

[FanFromArizona]

lol, FFA. Is Linebrink a preemptive strike? :D


Nah, just "being pro-active about improving a person's own team" as you put it. :)

[danny's stogie]

Nah, just "being pro-active about improving a person's own team" as you put it. :)

Isn't a preemptive strike in essence being pro-active and what not?

[FanFromArizona]

Isn't a preemptive strike in essence being pro-active and what not?

Bill Clinton: Can you define the word "is"....it depends on the context of the word.

Is the glass half full or half empty?!?

Is pre-emptive meaning pro-active? Although the meaning is the same, it's spelled differently. So why not get rid of one word and save some dictionaries?!?

LMAO.

Off to work I go, I owe, HI HO HI HO HI HO.

[danny's stogie]

Bill Clinton: Can you define the word "is"....it depends on the context of the word.

Is the glass half full or half empty?!?

Is pre-emptive meaning pro-active? Although the meaning is the same, it's spelled differently. So why not get rid of one word and save some dictionaries?!?

LMAO.

Off to work I go, I owe, HI HO HI HO HI HO.

I don't know what not to like about this post. Comedy with a tinge of lunacy. The boy with the thorn in his side, behind the hatred there lies, a murderous desire.

[FanFromArizona]

lol, FFA. Is Linebrink a preemptive strike? :D

Actually it gives me balance in the pitching ranks on the RP side, with Papelbon and Wainwright being able to swing both ways { SP or RP} after week 3. Until then, I can just slot them in the P spot when I wish to use them.

[danny's stogie]

Actually it gives me balance in the pitching ranks on the RP side, with Papelbon and Wainwright being able to swing both ways { SP or RP} after week 3. Until then, I can just slot them in the P spot when I wish to use them.

Truthfully, I have no clue why you had El Duque on your team in the first place so simply dropping him is a good move. I lmao when you tried to get Jenks with him. But man, Paps and Wainwright aren't closers. They'll both be good mid-tier starters, but what they are not is closers.

[danny's stogie]

Putz is getting an MRI. I'd expect Benitez to be wearing a Mariners jersey by the middle of next week.

[FanFromArizona]

Putz is getting an MRI. I'd expect Benitez to be wearing a Mariners jersey by the middle of next week.

you want to talk about the walking wounded with smooty's players.....:cry:

[danny's stogie]

you want to talk about the walking wounded with smooty's players.....:cry:

Izzy looks good to go by all accounts.

[akhhorus]

you want to talk about the walking wounded with smooty's players.....:cry:

Do we have 5 months of you whining about this trade to look forward to?

[danny's stogie]

Do we have 5 months of you whining about this trade to look forward to?

No, he's happy, he finally picked up a potential closer before I could, lol. :D

[smoot]

should putz be healthy, all reports seem to indicate that he will be the closer with benitez as a set up man

[danny's stogie]

If anyone wants to laugh at Peter King he took part of an SI mock draft.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/fantasy/baseball.draft07/

Seriously the most retarded draft I've ever seen.

Here is PK's draft:

1 5 5 Peter King Grady Sizemore OF CLE
2 8 20 Peter King David Ortiz DH BOS
3 5 29 Peter King Ichiro Suzuki OF SEA
4 8 44 Peter King B.J. Ryan P TOR
5 5 53 Peter King Daisuke Matsuzaka P BOS
6 8 68 Peter King Felipe Lopez SS WAS
7 5 77 Peter King Chris Young P SD
8 8 92 Peter King Bronson Arroyo P CIN
9 5 101 Peter King Julio Lugo 2B/SS BOS
10 8 116 Peter King Chad Cordero P WAS
11 5 125 Peter King Akinori Iwamura 3B TB
12 8 140 Peter King Chris Young OF ARI
13 5 149 Peter King Akinori Otsuka P TEX
14 8 164 Peter King Ronnie Paulino C PIT
15 5 173 Peter King Nomar Garciaparra 1B LAD
16 8 188 Peter King Kei Igawa P NYY
17 5 197 Peter King Craig Biggio 2B HOU
18 8 212 Peter King Adrian Beltre 3B SEA
19 5 221 Peter King Chris Duncan OF STL
20 8 236 Peter King Jeff Francis P COL
21 5 245 Peter King Moises Alou OF NYM
22 8 260 Peter King Phil Hughes P NYY
23 5 269 Peter King Rod Barajas C PHI

I'm surprised he didn't draft Hideo Nomo too.

[csquared]

Thanks for the offers guys BUT, The only way i get rid of Pierre is if the deal brings me back a big time power hitter. Not saying Pierre straight up for power but the deal would have to involve me getting a big time power hitter.

[danny's stogie]

Thanks for the offers guys BUT, The only way i get rid of Pierre is if the deal brings me back a big time power hitter. Not saying Pierre straight up for power but the deal would have to involve me getting a big time power hitter.

Hey, I tried to get you big time power for Pierre, then you tried to get half my offensive studs for Brad Penny. So are you serious about trying to make a trade or not?

[csquared]

Hey, I tried to get you big time power for Pierre, then you tried to get half my offensive studs for Brad Penny. So are you serious about trying to make a trade or not?
I know what you offered me. Im not talking about your offers. I got a few other offers yesterday and today.

[danny's stogie]

I know what you offered me. Im not talking about your offers. I got a few other offers yesterday and today.

I understand what you're saying, I'm just pointing out that when you actually were offered serious power you still balked at the deal, confusing that's all.

[csquared]

I understand what you're saying, I'm just pointing out that when you actually were offered serious power you still balked at the deal, confusing that's all.
Ok Serious power is a bit of an overstatement. You offered Zimmerman and Thome for Wright and Pierre. Now taking Zimmerman for Wright lowers my power numbers. Also Wright actually gets some SB too. So i lose that as well. Not saying Zimmerman stinks but Wright is the top 3rb in the league. And if not top he is top 2. I will give you the power argument for Pierre and Thome. But losing Pierre takes away 50-70 SB this year. Tack that on to the 20-25 Wright could get me thats a loss of anywhere from 70-100 SB. Ok Zimmerman stole 11 bases last year so losing 60-90 SB and only adding maybe 30-40 homers max isnt worth it. So you did in fact did offer me some power but you and i both know what you looked at were the SB. The best offer i have had for power was AKH but i was too trigger shy to pull the trigger.

[danny's stogie]

Ok Serious power is a bit of an overstatement. You offered Zimmerman and Thome for Wright and Pierre. Now taking Zimmerman for Wright lowers my power numbers. Also Wright actually gets some SB too. So i lose that as well. Not saying Zimmerman stinks but Wright is the top 3rb in the league. And if not top he is top 2. I will give you the power argument for Pierre and Thome. But losing Pierre takes away 50-70 SB this year. Tack that on to the 20-25 Wright could get me thats a loss of anywhere from 70-100 SB. Ok Zimmerman stole 11 bases last year so losing 60-90 SB and only adding maybe 30-40 homers max isnt worth it. So you did in fact did offer me some power but you and i both know what you looked at were the SB. The best offer i have had for power was AKH but i was too trigger shy to pull the trigger.

If you want to get power you do realize that you have to give something up in return. No one's going to give you Sorianno for Pierre so that your steals aren't effected. But I'm good for steals, and so no, that wasn't what I was looking at. What I was looking at is that Pierre, despite being completely one-dimensional, was the only hitter of yours that comes close to returning equal value for Thome and Zimmerman.

[csquared]

If you want to get power you do realize that you have to give something up in return. No one's going to give you Sorianno for Pierre so that your steals aren't effected. But I'm good for steals, and so no, that wasn't what I was looking at. What I was looking at is that Pierre, despite being completely one-dimensional, was the only hitter of yours that comes close to returning equal value for Thome and Zimmerman.
But put yourself in my shoes. Would you take that trade ? Losing 60-90 steals just to pick up 30 hr's? Now if i had Jose Reyes along with Pierre id probably do it. But i dont. So thats why i tried to add a 3rd player (Rios). And i put an offer out with Penny. You didnt want Penny thats fine. No biggie. But i mean i had an offer Pierre for Helton. I also got Pierre for Ibanez. Those were the offers i was talking about earlier.

[csquared]

Also Pierre is a bit more than one dimensional. Over 200 hits 13 triples and 55 SB is nice.

[danny's stogie]

But put yourself in my shoes. Would you take that trade ? Losing 60-90 steals just to pick up 30 hr's? Now if i had Jose Reyes along with Pierre id probably do it. But i dont. So thats why i tried to add a 3rd player (Rios). And i put an offer out with Penny. You didnt want Penny thats fine. No biggie. But i mean i had an offer Pierre for Helton. I also got Pierre for Ibanez. Those were the offers i was talking about earlier.

If I had your team I personally would have done the offer that included Markakis. Your hitting is extremely thin and Pierre, while he helps in steals is a serious drag on most other categories.

Adding Rios for Penny was an insult. Thome, Zimmerman, Rios for Wright, Pierre, Penny would be highway robbery for you. Rios alone hits as many homeruns and has as many steals as Wright does.

[csquared]

If I had your team I personally would have done the offer that included Markakis. Your hitting is extremely thin and Pierre, while he helps in steals is a serious drag on most other categories.

Adding Rios for Penny was an insult. Thome, Zimmerman, Rios for Wright, Pierre, Penny would be highway robbery for you. Rios alone hits as many homeruns and has as many steals as Wright does.
Rios doesnt hit anywhere near the same amount of HR that Wright does. They both have been in the league 3 years and both have played in about 385 games and Rios has hit 28 hr and Wright has 67. And i would say Wright is more likely to hit more for the rest of his career than Rios. Markakis is an unknown at this point. He could be a star. He could be a bum.

[danny's stogie]

Rios doesnt hit anywhere near the same amount of HR that Wright does. They both have been in the league 3 years and both have played in about 385 games and Rios has hit 28 hr and Wright has 67. And i would say Wright is more likely to hit more for the rest of his career than Rios. Markakis is an unknown at this point. He could be a star. He could be a bum.

Rios, through the all-star break, 270 ABs and 15 HRs.

Wright, through the all-star break, 339 ABs and 20 HRs.


Rios is right neck and neck with Wright until he got a staph infection. Wright simply didn't have any power after the break whereas Rios actually had a legitimate excuse.

But continue to think that getting roughly 90 HRs in exchange for 26, a one-dimensional SB threat, and a C level pitcher isn't an insulting offer. :rolleyes:

Edit: as for Markakis, yeah, he's still a relative unknown. That's why he was drafted where he was, but what I am supposed to do, throw in Crawford too because he isn't an unknown? Why don't I just throw in my whole team while I'm at it so that you can add a little power.

[csquared]

Rios, through the all-star break, 270 ABs and 15 HRs.

Wright, through the all-star break, 339 ABs and 20 HRs.


Rios is right neck and neck with Wright until he got a staph infection. Wright simply didn't have any power after the break whereas Rios actually had a legitimate excuse.

But continue to think that getting roughly 90 HRs in exchange for 26, a one-dimensional SB threat, and a C level pitcher isn't an insulting offer.

Sorry you felt that was insulting.It obviously wasnt meant to be. Ill give you my thinking.......You feel Penny is a C level pitcher. I was looking at it as a pitcher who had 16 wins last year. Like i said before that was more than any of your pitchers had. You feel he wont even get 10. No biggie. You feel Pierre is a one dimensional threat. .300 200+ hits 10+ triples and 50+ stolen bases. In my eyes thats a bit more than one dimesional.Im guessing you still do. No biggie. And Wright i think we both agree is a top tier 3rd baseman.
Ok Now the other side.. Thome in my eyes wont hit more than 35 hr this year. He is getting older(as i type this i look at his last game where he hit 2 HR:) ).Just think he is probably on the downside of his career. Zimmerman i love. Probably my favorite player in the majors now. I would have no problem with him. Yea his numbers are a little lower than Wrights but i could live with it just because im such a fan(The biggest fantasy mistake ever) . Markakis like i said before is an unknown. He could be a bust or he could be a star. But not even a mid tier fantasy outfielder right now. Rios i figured will bat .310 hit 15 HR and steal 20-30 bases. A solid player. Nothing spectacular but should have better numbers than Markakis. So thats my thinking. The thing holding me back is Thome and Markakis. Like i said Zimmerman is one i actually wanted to draft but you picked him up. Trust me im not out to rip anyone off. FFA wants to give me 2 guys for Pierre. Im not going to take it because they are just guys im not comfortable having on my fantasy team(injury concerns is past years). So im definitely down for making trades. Hope this cleared up my side for ya. :awesomewo

[danny's stogie]

Sorry you felt that was insulting.It obviously wasnt meant to be. Ill give you my thinking.......You feel Penny is a C level pitcher. I was looking at it as a pitcher who had 16 wins last year. Like i said before that was more than any of your pitchers had. You feel he wont even get 10. No biggie. You feel Pierre is a one dimensional threat. .300 200+ hits 10+ triples and 50+ stolen bases. In my eyes thats a bit more than one dimesional.Im guessing you still do. No biggie. And Wright i think we both agree is a top tier 3rd baseman.
Ok Now the other side.. Thome in my eyes wont hit more than 35 hr this year. He is getting older(as i type this i look at his last game where he hit 2 HR:) ).Just think he is probably on the downside of his career. Zimmerman i love. Probably my favorite player in the majors now. I would have no problem with him. Yea his numbers are a little lower than Wrights but i could live with it just because im such a fan(The biggest fantasy mistake ever) . Markakis like i said before is an unknown. He could be a bust or he could be a star. But not even a mid tier fantasy outfielder right now. Rios i figured will bat .310 hit 15 HR and steal 20-30 bases. A solid player. Nothing spectacular but should have better numbers than Markakis. So thats my thinking. The thing holding me back is Thome and Markakis. Like i said Zimmerman is one i actually wanted to draft but you picked him up. Trust me im not out to rip anyone off. FFA wants to give me 2 guys for Pierre. Im not going to take it because they are just guys im not comfortable having on my fantasy team(injury concerns is past years). So im definitely down for making trades. Hope this cleared up my side for ya. :awesomewo

Alright, I still think it's an insulting offer.

You can't count on wins from year to year. I'd be amazed if Penny has 16 wins again. His ratios aren't very good and win/losses always even out in the end.

The problem with Pierre is that he kills you in multiple categories. While everyone else has outfielders hitting HRs and getting RBIs, he's about as good as an empty spot in those categories. The runs are decent (not nearly enough to compensate for the loss in other categories), the SBs are fantastic, and while the BA doesn't hurt, it isn't enough to boost your team.

A healthy Thome is a lock for around 40 HRs, 100 runs, and 110 RBIs. If he plays 150 games he's a 45 HR, 120 RBI player and those are numbers that would put him right behind Ortiz and Howard. He appears healthy, nothing to indicate he isn't, he's a bigtime slugger then imo.

Wright isn't enough of an upgrade over Zimmerman to merit selling the house for him.

Rios is the type of player that wins leagues, he contributes in every category. If he plays like he did before the staph infection he's a top 20 pick. But of course he doesn't go in the first couple of rounds because there is no certainty about how he progresses.

Send me another offer if you want to revive talks.

[akhhorus]

ok, there is a trade involving the Commissioner. Stogie and I agreed to the following trade:

Sheep boy gets:
Mark Teahen & Ryan Howard

Akh gets:
Ryan Zimmerman and Paul Konerko

Since immediately allowing this deal would be unfair, if you have a serious objection to this deal(and you need to articulate your complaints, not just say you think it sucks), please pm me here.

at 10.26 EDT tomorrow, the trade will be approved if there are no complaints.

[smoot]

its definitely an interesting one...no objection, but im not sure if i would do it if i were akh. i guess it all depends on zimmerman's continued development

[danny's stogie]

its definitely an interesting one...no objection, but im not sure if i would do it if i were akh. i guess it all depends on zimmerman's continued development

Maybe, that's a lot of guaranteed production you get out of Konerko plus Zimmerman.

[danny's stogie]

Tavarez is the closer:

Julian Tavarez-R- Red Sox Mar. 21 - 9:36 am et


The Boston Herald reports that Mike Timlin beginning the season on the disabled list increases Julian Tavarez's odds of serving as Boston's closer for at least the first week.

[FanFromArizona]

ok, there is a trade involving the Commissioner. Stogie and I agreed to the following trade:

Sheep boy gets:
Mark Teahen & Ryan Howard

Akh gets:
Ryan Zimmerman and Paul Konerko

Since immediately allowing this deal would be unfair, if you have a serious objection to this deal(and you need to articulate your complaints, not just say you think it sucks), please pm me here.

at 10.26 EDT tomorrow, the trade will be approved if there are no complaints.

going, going, SOLD!

[FanFromArizona]

Tavarez is the closer:

building yourself a nice team there, are you like the defending champ or something? :rolleyes:

[danny's stogie]

building yourself a nice team there, are you like the defending champ or something? :rolleyes:

I like baseball, therefore I put in the work.

[FanFromArizona]

I like baseball, therefore I put in the work.

it shows, your team will definitely be competitive.

[akhhorus]

building yourself a nice team there, are you like the defending champ or something? :rolleyes:

He got a bit more power and 3bs in our deal, but I gained in more categories(hits, runs, RBIs, 2bs). If Teahen(or the Royals' protection of Teahen) struggles or Howard regresses/gets hurt, sheep boy got sheared, and not in the good way.

[danny's stogie]

it shows, your team will definitely be competitive.

I have as good a shot as anyone, lots of stuff will happen between now and october.

[FanFromArizona]

He got a bit more power and 3bs in our deal, but I gained in more categories(hits, runs, RBIs, 2bs). If Teahen(or the Royals' protection of Teahen) struggles or Howard regresses/gets hurt, sheep boy got sheared, and not in the good way.

I had no objections to the trade, both sides gained.

[danny's stogie]

He got a bit more power and 3bs in our deal, but I gained in more categories(hits, runs, RBIs, 2bs). If Teahen(or the Royals' protection of Teahen) struggles or Howard regresses/gets hurt, sheep boy got sheared, and not in the good way.

Basically. The only real constant in this deal is Konerko who's basically a 35-40, 110 lock. Howard is an unbelievable bat and if he comes even close to last year's totals it's a good deal for me, but he is still a young player and we never know. Good thing it's a contract year for him. :D

[danny's stogie]

More trades, the commish gets RP Brian Wilson, the sheepspooner gets RP Jonathan Broxton.

[skinfanjon]

Just traded Zito for Fuentes....my starting pitching is starting to look a bit better, I think. Still not top notch, but with my two closers I think its a decent staff. If I get desperate later, I can always move either Wagner or Nathan for another starter.

[FanFromArizona]

Quite a bit of traffic the past few days.

I'm getting excited as we get closer to the Opener.

[danny's stogie]

Quite a bit of traffic the past few days.

I'm getting excited as we get closer to the Opener.

I still can't believe that a trade went by and I wasn't involved.

[FanFromArizona]

I still can't believe that a trade went by and I wasn't involved.

LOL.

I am not sure which nickname we should give you:

1. Sheep Boy (and someone pray tell me where this nickname originated from!)
2. Stat Man
3. TradeMeisteroni

:lol1:

[smoot]

still looking for a catcher...if anybody is interested in working out a trade contact me

[danny's stogie]

LOL.

I am not sure which nickname we should give you:

1. Sheep Boy (and someone pray tell me where this nickname originated from!)
2. Stat Man
3. TradeMeisteroni

:lol1:

I don't really remember where the name came from. It has to do with me living in Montana and people thinking a Montanan's mistress is a sheep. I'm sure someone else remembers what thread this started in.

[skinfanjon]

Hey Cubbies.....why didn't you go for that trade offer? If anything I felt I was giving up too much?

BTW, is it possible to get a list going of what everyones team name is? I only know about 1/2 the owners HR screename. I've played an enire fantasy NBA season and I still don't know who one or two people are. Anyway we can form a list?

[csquared]

Broken Bats here

[AliBabba]

schrute

[danny's stogie]

Schrute - alibabba
CNY
skinfanjon
Peter Gammons - SkinsASchamps
Billy Ripken's Balls - remaxjon
Freaks of Science - redskinsrich
CalLuke - Carmike
Bozangelos Sheepsters - danny's stogie
Disgruntled Bat Boys - Pgiddy
bravesresurgence -FanFromArizona
Broken Bats - csquared
Smoot - Smoot
Cubbies - ???
Temple of the Blonde - akhhorus

[FanFromArizona]

Tavarez is the closer:

Update:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring2007/news/story?id=2808345


Julian Tavarez will take over as Boston's fifth starter behind an impressive staff

[danny's stogie]

Update:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring2007/news/story?id=2808345

Leaves you pretty thin at SP.

[FanFromArizona]

Leaves you pretty thin at SP.

Actually, if anything, it makes me more balanced:

SP: Brandon Webb, Rich Hill, Anthony Reyes, Adam Wainwright(need 3 starts), and Freddy Garcia

RP: Papelbon, Torres, Jenks, MacDougal, and Linebrink

[danny's stogie]

Actually, if anything, it makes me more balanced:

SP: Brandon Webb, Rich Hill, Anthony Reyes, Adam Wainwright(need 3 starts), and Freddy Garcia

RP: Papelbon, Torres, Jenks, MacDougal, and Linebrink

I've heard bad stuff about Garcia, that his stuff has deteriorated and that the only reason he's keeping his job in the rotation over Leiber is because of the contract they just gave him. I like Wainwright and Webb, like Reyes as a 5th starter, but I think Hill might be a bit overblown.

[FanFromArizona]

I've heard bad stuff about Garcia, that his stuff has deteriorated and that the only reason he's keeping his job in the rotation over Leiber is because of the contract they just gave him. I like Wainwright and Webb, like Reyes as a 5th starter, but I think Hill might be a bit overblown.


Reyes is actually projected as the #2 starter on the depth charts (according to Yahoo) and has had a stellar spring training[0.56 ERA]. Time will tell which Reyes shows up (last season's regular, World Series Game 1 starter/This spring training), my opinion and hopes are the latter.

Depth chart: http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/teams/stl/depthchart

[danny's stogie]

Reyes is actually projected as the #2 starter on the depth charts (according to Yahoo) and has had a stellar spring training[0.56 ERA]. Time will tell which Reyes shows up (last season's regular, World Series Game 1 starter/This spring training), my opinion and hopes are the latter.

Depth chart: http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/teams/stl/depthchart

LOL, 5th starter for a fantasy team, not a real team.

[danny's stogie]

Injury news for several folks:

Furcal had a bad ankle sprain.

Figgins fractured a finger bone.

Mauer has a stress reaction in his leg. Sounds like I'll be ok, physical therapy and a couple of weeks off. Might miss a few of the first games of the season though. It might even turn into a good thing for Mauer owners if the Twins decide just to DH him a while.

[danny's stogie]

Injury news for several folks:

Furcal had a bad ankle sprain.

Figgins fractured a finger bone.

Mauer has a stress reaction in his leg. Sounds like I'll be ok, physical therapy and a couple of weeks off. Might miss a few of the first games of the season though. It might even turn into a good thing for Mauer owners if the Twins decide just to DH him a while.

The Minneapolis Star-Tribune says Mauer needs to rest this weekend, but should be ready for opening day. I lucked out on this one.

[FanFromArizona]

Injury news for several folks:

Furcal had a bad ankle sprain.

Figgins fractured a finger bone.

Mauer has a stress reaction in his leg. Sounds like I'll be ok, physical therapy and a couple of weeks off. Might miss a few of the first games of the season though. It might even turn into a good thing for Mauer owners if the Twins decide just to DH him a while.


Angels: Figgins out 5-6 weeks


Angels third baseman Chone Figgins will be out five-to-six weeks after breaking two fingers on his right hand. Figgins sustained the fractures to his index and middle fingers when a ground ball went off the hand in a game Wednesday, according to the Associated Press.

[danny's stogie]

Angels: Figgins out 5-6 weeks


Angels third baseman Chone Figgins will be out five-to-six weeks after breaking two fingers on his right hand. Figgins sustained the fractures to his index and middle fingers when a ground ball went off the hand in a game Wednesday, according to the Associated Press.

Injuries are going to play a big role in our league. With 14 people there are thin pickin's on the waiver wire.

[AliBabba]

Injuries are going to play a big role in our league. With 14 people there are thin pickin's on the waiver wire.
that's my fave part ... get your one year wonders and breakouts while the gettin is good

[FanFromArizona]

that's my fave part ... get your one year wonders and breakouts while the gettin is good

yeah. hopefully the bug either hits early in the year or not at all.

[danny's stogie]

yeah. hopefully the bug either hits early in the year or not at all.

It's gonna hit, it always does, and half the breakouts we expect won't happen, half the players we thought were locks to produce big numbers won't, and a whole bunch of players we never thought were good will put up good numbers.

[AliBabba]

It's gonna hit, it always does, and half the breakouts we expect won't happen, half the players we thought were locks to produce big numbers won't, and a whole bunch of players we never thought were good will put up good numbers.
yep, and half the league will end up dropping a guy at some point that could have put them over the top

[FanFromArizona]

It's gonna hit, it always does, and half the breakouts we expect won't happen, half the players we thought were locks to produce big numbers won't, and a whole bunch of players we never thought were good will put up good numbers.

it's funny how susceptibility to injury becomes a decision-making factor.
Knowing when the risk is worth taking a gamble and when to take the risk....makes decisions more interesting to say the least.

[danny's stogie]

it's funny how susceptibility to injury becomes a decision-making factor.
Knowing when the risk is worth taking a gamble and when to take the risk....makes decisions more interesting to say the least.

I think out of my top 10 picks last year I only got good numbers out of one or two.

Gotta love McCann, Verlander, Weaver, Otsaku, Rios, Hawpe, and I'm sure there were a few more I'm missing that I picked up early in the season to replace my injured roster.

[FanFromArizona]

I think out of my top 10 picks last year I only got good numbers out of one or two.

Gotta love McCann, Verlander, Weaver, Otsaku, Rios, Hawpe, and I'm sure there were a few more I'm missing that I picked up early in the season to replace my injured roster.

Yeah, the ability to adjust to injury becomes important, and that is where the value of multi-postional-eligible players comes from, and being able to adjust the roster to move players around becomes key.

[danny's stogie]

Yeah, the ability to adjust to injury becomes important, and that is where the value of multi-postional-eligible players comes from, and being able to adjust the roster to move players around becomes key.

Meh, it wasn't multi-position eligible players that helped me, it was that I identified good players in the later rounds of my draft and picked up really, really good players off of waivers before they became hot commodities. Usually multi-position players are that for a reason, because they aren't good enough to hold down a job at one position.

[FanFromArizona]

Akh's players seem to keep taking a hit.....first Figgins, and now Wang

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070323&content_id=1856153&vkey=spt2007news&fext=.jsp

But I'm sure the Commish will be fine using his benchplayers.

[SkinsASchamps]

Peter Gammons here. No idea if I have a good team or not. I know very little about baseball these days.

[danny's stogie]

Peter Gammons here. No idea if I have a good team or not. I know very little about baseball these days.

Your team is pretty good, definitely some big holes though. You aren't going to do very well in the speed categories, if you want some help, let me know and I'll see what I can do for you.

[SkinsASchamps]

Your team is pretty good, definitely some big holes though. You aren't going to do very well in the speed categories, if you want some help, let me know and I'll see what I can do for you.

Thanks. I know a couple of the names like my 3B and Vlad but otherwise Im in the dark. When did Robbie Alomar Retire lol? I need to pay more attention. How does scoring work in our league? Do we get a point for a HR/RBI/k/ I dont know what else or is it based on avgs or what? I dont understand it honestly. Thanks.

[danny's stogie]

Thanks. I know a couple of the names like my 3B and Vlad but otherwise Im in the dark. When did Robbie Alomar Retire lol? I need to pay more attention. How does scoring work in our league? Do we get a point for a HR/RBI/k/ I dont know what else or is it based on avgs or what? I dont understand it honestly. Thanks.

You compile statistics in all the listed categories and get points for how your team ranks. For example, if you lead the league in steals you get 14 points, if you're last in steals you get 1.

If you're interested in acquiring steals I have plenty, you can make me a trade offer.

[SkinsASchamps]

You compile statistics in all the listed categories and get points for how your team ranks. For example, if you lead the league in steals you get 14 points, if you're last in steals you get 1.

If you're interested in acquiring steals I have plenty, you can make me a trade offer.

ok thanks. I think Im going to leave my team be for the time being but maybe in a couple of weeks after I see how it is going.

[danny's stogie]

ok thanks. I think Im going to leave my team be for the time being but maybe in a couple of weeks after I see how it is going.

I might send you one anyways, lol. There's some good potential for mutually beneficial swappage between our two clubs.

[FanFromArizona]

I might send you one anyways, lol. There's some good potential for mutually beneficial swappage between our two clubs.

And remember, if it's unfair, the "silent majority" will always protest. :rolleyes:

[danny's stogie]

And remember, if it's unfair, the "silent majority" will always protest. :rolleyes:

did you really have that much of a problem with the Broxton/Wilson trade? Sheez man, give it a rest.

[smoot]

New Deal Finalized Between Danny's Stogie and Myself

To DS:
Johan Santana
Joel Zumaya
Michael Barrett

To Smoot:
Joe Mauer
Bronson Arroyo
Boof Bonser

[danny's stogie]

New Deal Finalized Between Danny's Stogie and Myself

To DS:
Johan Santana
Joel Zumaya
Michael Barrett

To Smoot:
Joe Mauer
Bronson Arroyo
Boof Bonser

What can I say man, I'm a provider. You need something and I'll hook it up.

[smoot]

What can I say man, I'm a provider. You need something and I'll hook it up.
always a pleasure doing business with you

[danny's stogie]

always a pleasure doing business with you

Likewise.

[danny's stogie]

yep, and half the league will end up dropping a guy at some point that could have put them over the top

I just recalled that I dropped Dye early last year. I drafted him late and had him pegged for a rebound year, but I got annoyed with his early season injuries and thought he was the same old Dye.

Anyways, the season's starting soon and I'm pumped to get this thing on the road.

[akhhorus]

Memorandum
From: Akh The Commish
To: The rest of the league.
Re: Trades

Just an FYI, but I will use my judgment in determining whether to approve trades. However, if I feel a trade is unfair, I will get in touch with you so you can explain why you think this deal is fair. If both sides make a persuasive case, I will strongly take that into consideration when deciding about your proposed deal. I strenuously suggest that you run a trade proposal by me via PM when negotiations get serious to prevent any problems.

Also, any player may file an objection with the Commissioner's office about an accepted trade. I will hear anyone out on your opinions on a trade. I suggest you set your league notification via email of pending events to active if you want to make sure you can get a warning of pending moves.

-Akh

PS have a nice day

[AliBabba]

I just recalled that I dropped Dye early last year. I drafted him late and had him pegged for a rebound year, but I got annoyed with his early season injuries and thought he was the same old Dye.

Anyways, the season's starting soon and I'm pumped to get this thing on the road.
yeh me too, I may pull the string on a trade beforehand, but I am trying to avoid "dropping Dye" or dropping/trading anyone that may have a good year, just for the sake of making a move.

That said, FFA I owe you a trade offer.

[danny's stogie]

Akh, I think you, as commish, are the only one that receives notification about pending trades for other league members. For us littles, the pending trades get broadcast at the top of our roster page. But setting email notification is important nonetheless. This way you can see when people send you trade offers without having to check your roster page to find out.

[remaxjon]

I need a ss or 2nd baseman

I have 4 closers so if someone needs a closer let me know

[danny's stogie]

I need a ss or 2nd baseman

I have 4 closers so if someone needs a closer let me know

Lol, everyone besides FFA needs a 2nd baseman.

I only see 3 closers, who is your 4th?

[remaxjon]

Lol, everyone besides FFA needs a 2nd baseman.

I only see 3 closers, who is your 4th?


Hermanson is going to close for the Reds

picked him up today

[danny's stogie]

Hermanson is going to close for the Reds

picked him up today

Good old trusty broken back. I'd be somewhat interested in Fuentes, make me an offer.

[remaxjon]

Good old trusty broken back. I'd be somewhat interested in Fuentes, make me an offer.


don't know which team you are

[danny's stogie]

I posted a list of team names with their HR names.

http://hailredskins.com/vbforum/showpost.php?p=932618&postcount=170

[remaxjon]

I posted a list of team names with their HR names.

http://hailredskins.com/vbforum/showpost.php?p=932618&postcount=170


I would love to get Hanley but I don't know if I have enough to give up for him. If you see something you want let me know

[danny's stogie]

I would love to get Hanley but I don't know if I have enough to give up for him. If you see something you want let me know

Yeah, well, it would take a bit more than Fuentes to get Hanley. I've let you know you know what I want, it's in your corner now, but if you don't see anything that's fine, I'm not really pressed with wants right now.

[smoot]

Lol, everyone besides FFA needs a 2nd baseman.

I only see 3 closers, who is your 4th?

hey now, i like my second baseman

[FanFromArizona]

Lol, everyone besides FFA needs a 2nd baseman.

I only see 3 closers, who is your 4th?

I would just like to let everyone know that Utley is unavailable for trade. I will not part with him under any circumstance.

If anyone is looking for SS or RP help, I am willing to consider an offer.

[FanFromArizona]

hey now, i like my second baseman

you have an excellent 2nd baseman in brian roberts.

[FanFromArizona]

point of matter, how many DL spots can we have? I thought it was one....checking "Cubbies" team out I see the answer is at least four.

[danny's stogie]

I would just like to let everyone know that Utley is unavailable for trade. I will not part with him under any circumstance.

If anyone is looking for SS or RP help, I am willing to consider an offer.

Oh, I guess you missed the Howard, Crawford for Utley, Linebrink trade I sent you.

SS help?

[FanFromArizona]

Oh, I guess you missed the Howard, Crawford for Utley, Linebrink trade I sent you.

SS help?


Restated: I am willing to trade away one of my SS (Young or Hall) if someone is interested and needs a SS.

[danny's stogie]

Restated: I am willing to trade away one of my SS (Young or Hall) if someone is interested and needs a SS.

But who do you have backing them up?

[FanFromArizona]

But who do you have backing them up?

A 3b would have to be included in the trade.

[danny's stogie]

A 3b would have to be included in the trade.

Meh.


Lol at the Cubbies. I wouldn't think that Encarnacion or Mulder meritted a roster spot even if it is just for the DL.

[FanFromArizona]

Meh.


Lol at the Cubbies. I wouldn't think that Encarnacion or Mulder meritted a roster spot even if it is just for the DL.

Have we ever figured out who Cubbies is?

(and I was thinking that Cubbies might pick up my DL special in Hampton, lol).

[danny's stogie]

Have we ever figured out who Cubbies is?

(and I was thinking that Cubbies might pick up my DL special in Hampton, lol).

No, at one point I knew, but now I forget who it is.


...and let it be known that unlike FFA, all my players are available, no one is off limits, heck, you can have 'em all if you want.

[FanFromArizona]

No, at one point I knew, but now I forget who it is.


...and let it be known that unlike FFA, all my players are available, no one is off limits, heck, you can have 'em all if you want.

for me, 21 of 22 are. :)

[danny's stogie]

for me, 21 of 22 are. :)

Yeah, I'm sure if ali offered you Pujols you'd decline.

[skinfanjon]

point of matter, how many DL spots can we have? I thought it was one....checking "Cubbies" team out I see the answer is at least four.

DL spots? Can someone elaborate on this please?

[danny's stogie]

Hey jon, sucks about Rogers, those are the breaks man, it's going to happen to all of us at some point. But you can make an offer for one of my SPs if you're feeling thin.

[FanFromArizona]

DL spots? Can someone elaborate on this please?

Be happy to:

If a player has the DL letters attached with him, you can hold on to the player and not have it count against your roster.
So as, an example, if you look at my team, I have 24 players listed. Freddy Garcia has the DL letter attached to his name, so by my changing his status (I have the option of selecting either SP, P, BN and DL), by selecting the DL option, I retain my rights to him, but I free up a roster spot for me to pick up a replacement (I chose Kip Wells).

I however, can only keep Freddy Garcia on the DL for as long as the red DL appear to the right of his name. When those letters are removed by Yahoo(aka he officially goes back to pitching), I have to make a choice as to who I need to drop to get my team back into the 23 roster player compliance.


In short, you can keep players on your team who are on the DL without having to drop the player/send him to waivers, and you will be able to add a temporary player during the DL's absence.

My question was how many players can be on the DL at any time? I thought it was 1, but in looking at Cubbies team, it looks like you can have at least 4.

[skinfanjon]

Be happy to:

If a player has the DL letters attached with him, you can hold on to the player and not have it count against your roster.
So as, an example, if you look at my team, I have 24 players listed. Freddy Garcia has the DL letter attached to his name, so by my changing his status (I have the option of selecting either SP, P, BN and DL), by selecting the DL option, I retain my rights to him, but I free up a roster spot for me to pick up a replacement (I chose Kip Wells).

I however, can only keep Freddy Garcia on the DL for as long as the red DL appear to the right of his name. When those letters are removed by Yahoo(aka he officially goes back to pitching), I have to make a choice as to who I need to drop to get my team back into the 23 roster player compliance.


My question was how many players can be on the DL at any time? I thought it was 1, but in looking at Cubbies team, it looks like you can have at least 4.

Thanks man. I didn't realize that was an option on the click and drag, I just thought it was bench or start. Otherwise, I would not have dropped Pedro. Oh well.

I looked at the settings for the league and you are allowed 4 DL spots.

[FanFromArizona]

The season is finally upon us. Let's get ready to RUMBLE!

[AliBabba]

The season is finally upon us. Let's get ready to RUMBLE!
Who's gonna be this year's (next few weeks) Chris Shelton? or Papelbon?

[csquared]

Hermanson is going to close for the Reds

picked him up today
Oops i guess your fantasy info supplier got this wrong pretty wrong
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2821347

[danny's stogie]

Uh oh, sounds like we've got ourselves a case of CBC in Cinny.

[csquared]

Uh oh, sounds like we've got ourselves a case of CBC in Cinny.
Well they could use Weathers or Stanton. I believe both have closed before in their careers.

[danny's stogie]

Well they could use Weathers or Stanton. I believe both have closed before in their careers.

I believe that both have also sucked donkey before too. But a team doesn't need a good closer if they don't plan on having a lead in the 9th very often.

[AliBabba]

I believe that both have also sucked donkey before too. But a team doesn't need a good closer if they don't plan on having a lead in the 9th very often.

:lol1: They definitely both suck, but I was waiting to see if I needed to handcuff the two together, its done for now and I expect to get 1/2 the production of a decent closer from the 2 of them

[danny's stogie]

:lol1: They definitely both suck, but I was waiting to see if I needed to handcuff the two together, its done for now and I expect to get 1/2 the production of a decent closer from the 2 of them

I can think of worse ways to tie up two roster spots.

[danny's stogie]

Damn, the league has barely started and my boys already have two SBs. If anyone wants to trade for steals I'm flush.

[csquared]

Damn, the league has barely started and my boys already have two SBs. If anyone wants to trade for steals I'm flush.
Well Hanley just got his 2nd so you have what 3 now. At this rate Hanley will have 324 this year.

[AliBabba]

Well Hanley just got his 2nd so you have what 3 now. At this rate Hanley will have 324 this year.
i'm sure he will pick up the pace

[danny's stogie]

i'm sure he will pick up the pace

He's a baller. I wonder how badly the Sox would want him back?

[AliBabba]

He's a baller. I wonder how badly the Sox would want him back?
are you kidding, Lugo is a baller

[danny's stogie]

are you kidding, Lugo is a baller

Combine Lugo's ability to ball with Beckett's ability to watch the ball fly over his head and you've got yourself a typical stupid move by Theo.

[danny's stogie]

Ron Washington can go do something to a sheep. What the heck is he doing batting Kinsler 9th with bums like Catalano 2nd, Sosa 5th, Blalock 6th?

[akhhorus]

There's a trade involving the commissioner's office. Same rules as before, if you have a problem with this deal, please pm me here in the next 24 hours(8.42 pm EST wednesday) with your complaint.

The deal:
Skinsaschamps gets:
Kevin Youkilis and Jason Jennings
for
Anibal Sanchez and Chris Burke

[FanFromArizona]

Gotta laugh at the leader in saves after 3 games: (Salomon Torres with 3).

[FanFromArizona]

Is there a way to find out the rankings in each of the 16 categories?

Like, which team has the most amount of (insert category here) and where do I rank in that category?

[AliBabba]

Is there a way to find out the rankings in each of the 16 categories?

Like, which team has the most amount of (insert category here) and where do I rank in that category?

yes, on the homepage click the "Full Standings" link in the upper right hand corner of the Standings box

[FanFromArizona]

yes, on the homepage click the "Full Standings" link in the upper right hand corner of the Standings box

thanks.