Need Help Finding a Dog Breeder

[ryflan47]

My family is looking to buy a Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Retriever, (another common name is Tollers). We're having trouble finding a breeder in the New Jersey area. I've tried some breeder searches. Does anyone know of a breeder nearby NJ? Any and all help is appreciated.

[smoak]

Just did a Google search:

http://www.pupcity.com/puppies-for-sale/nova-scotia-duck-tolling-retriever.asp

My guess is that you may need to expand your geographical search a bit b/c there doesn't seem to be much.... Good luck though.

[redskin_rich]

How's this-
http://www.pupcity.com/puppies-for-sale/view.asp?adid=23629

Edit- Smoak beat me by mere seconds. Google is your friend, Ryan.

[ryflan47]

Thanks, but you have to pay to register for those two.

[supersix]

Try this location http://www.k9web.com/dog-faqs/kennel-clubs/AKC.html

[dj_stouty]

Depends on how much $ you are willing to invest...but my best friend flew in a breeder/dog for their last dog. (They got an Entlebucher,which is a small Swiss Mountain dog) Sometimes the breeder you want isn't close to home.

Good luck.

[ryflan47]

Depends on how much $ you are willing to invest...but my best friend flew in a breeder/dog for their last dog. (They got an Entlebucher,which is a small Swiss Mountain dog) Sometimes the breeder you want isn't close to home.

Good luck.

Was the dog good, or was it not as advertised. That's what we're mostly afraid of.

[hail2skins]

Yeah, I had a friend who wanted a Bichuan Freese (sp???). She found a breeder in New York. The breeder had very specific directions for her. She could drive to get him because it was too long. She had to fly to get him. She learned a lot about the place she bought her first one from. He was sick all the time and finally passed away. She found out the place where she got the first one doesn't do a good job. The one she has now is very healthy and I'll be hanging with him at the end of April.

[whistleandthumb]

There are plenty of wonderful pets down at your local SPCA that would make lovely companions, and love you as unconditionally as any high-priced pure breed dog. A lot of the times, you can find perfect pure breed dogs at the SPCA. You'll not only have a wonderful pet, but you'll also be taking in a homeless animal, and often times, saving its life. Just something to consider.

[shally]

that is a noble and wonderful thought you have posted.. and you are right most of the time.
we have adopted one cat after another his way and never had a problem. cats are more resilient

dogs can be different. especially larger dogs. they can have what only seems to be "flashbacks" to their prior abused life-- if they had one.. i have known of a couple of people who had dogs turn on them randomly due to a random triggering event.. one had a child neighbor bitten and the dog had to be put to sleep because of it.

also, our son had his face bitten by a relative's doberman when he was 5 (our son, not the dog).. my wife saw the event and she swears that gabe did nothing to provoke the dog.. he had to have plastic surgery on his face.. because we love the relative and she lives alone in a bad neighborhood, we did not press the issue, but our son is never allowed near that dog. he was a rescued dog as well.

finally, my son in law has a rescued greyhound that is the most neurotic, obnoxious dog who ever lived.. he opens the fridge when they are away and devours food, despite a childproof lock.. totally incorrigible.

so be carefull what you are letting yourself in for...

[BurgundyNGold]

I know a sheep breeder in Montana. Does that help, lol?

[whistleandthumb]

Shally - -

There are always going to be the horror stories, but I think that goes with any type of dog, regardless of its background.

I've had 2 close friends who purchased pure breed dogs, one a dalmation and the other a German Shepherd, and both were terrors. They bit, attacked, and were just generally horrible animals. Both were euthanized before the age of 3. My in-laws have the cutest pure breed Cairn Terrior, but she is the worst dog - often biting people and destroying things in the house.

I've adopted 2 dogs from the SPCA in my life, and while somewhat biased, they are absolutely the best 2 dogs I've ever seen. They are the most loving, gentle, and docile creatures, and the next dog I get will also be adopted.

Anyway, I hear your point, but I think it goes both ways. Though, I will say, I think how the owners of the dog treat and teach the dog what is right/wrong plays a large role.

[shally]

Shally - -

There are always going to be the horror stories, but I think that goes with any type of dog, regardless of its background.

I've had 2 close friends who purchased pure breed dogs, one a dalmation and the other a German Shepherd, and both were terrors. They bit, attacked, and were just generally horrible animals. Both were euthanized before the age of 3. My in-laws have the cutest pure breed Cairn Terrior, but she is the worst dog - often biting people and destroying things in the house.

I've adopted 2 dogs from the SPCA in my life, and while somewhat biased, they are absolutely the best 2 dogs I've ever seen. They are the most loving, gentle, and docile creatures, and the next dog I get will also be adopted.

Anyway, I hear your point, but I think it goes both ways. Though, I will say, I think how the owners of the dog treat and teach the dog what is right/wrong plays a large role.

back to the old nature vs nurture arguement..

i guess what i am saying is validating your argument. that the way the owners treat the dog impacts it's behavior for the rest of it's life-- with some exceptions.. and it is exactly that concern i have in getting an adult dog from the spca.. you simply do not know what the prior owner did to the dog-- unless you get a pup.. if the dog was abused by it's former owner, who knows what you can undo with gentle and patient treatment ? that is the circumstance that i would be worried about

on the other hand, i totally agree that no purebreed is a sure thing either. with breeders looking to make money you can get poor quality animals.. even with a reputatble breeder you can sometimes get a strange dog.

i remember a dog my parents got when i was a boy. they bought a bedlington terrier from a highly reputable breeder. paid a small fortune for the dog. what the breeder told my parents was that he was concerned about over breeding and in-breeding inthe US and so he bred his dogs to a line from europe to "freshen" up the gene pool.. what we got was some kind of strange wild throwback that was simply untrainable. what finally caused my parents to give away the dog or return him to the breeder (it was a very long time ago, so i am unsure of what they did, but the dog was valuable enough that he wasnt put to sleep) was that he began to see babies as prey and tried to attack a couple of infants in strollers while out on walks. needless to say my mom was horrified and the dog was removed from our household before a tragedy occurred.. so as you say, purebreeeds are no guarantee

i wish you well in your future dog adventures.. we are raising a boxer pup who is now 4 months and looks to be a sweetheart. hopefully she will turn out to be as good a dog as our last boxer.. but as for me, i recognize that i am first and foremost a cat lover.. always will be. even though i do most of the dog training, my constant loves will be the menagerie of stray cats we have adopted.. always room for one more..

[csquared]

Shally thats the exact reason i never buy(adopt) an adult dog. Only puppies for me. Yes they are more work, but with a small child the dog needs to be trained well. Getting an adult dog specially from the SPCA is a huge unknown. My mom adopted a mini doberman about 2 years ago. The dog doesnt stop barking. No lie he will bark for 3 hours straight if im over visiting my mom. He also tears up anything he gets his paws on. He has destroyed 4 cell phones and bit everyone atleast 3 times. He is very lucky i havent broke his neck by now. So i have first hand experience with with it all. My boxer i bought from a breeder 2.5 years ago and he is trained real well. Never has bit a soul. Barks only when somebody knocks on the door. When its bath time he jumps into the tub and sits so he can be cleaned. So in my opinion stay away from spca.

[CNYSkinFan]

Watch out for any breeders from PA. I am sure there are some very good breeders there, but PA is a big Puppy Mill state. Many so called breeders there are glorified Puppy Miulls and the health of the dogs are questionable.

We went to a breeder for our Lab and also found a stray a year later we took in. Both are big parts of our family and I would have a had time justifying ($$ wise) going to a breeder again in the future, but if you want a specific breed that is your only hope.

[RedskinsDave]

Most bad dogs are a result of something their owner did or did not do.

[CNYSkinFan]

Most bad dogs are a result of something their owner did or did not do.
True but puppys that stay an extended tim in a puppy mill need extra special care when they are young to help them adjust.

That being said dogs are one of the more resilient creatures i have ever seen. it really takes ALOT for them not to be able to be rehabilitated and be a loving pet once again. They are truly one of the most amazing creatures in the animal kingdom.

[shally]

Most bad dogs are a result of something their owner did or did not do.

which might explain some of the bad behavior on this site......

[bwparker]

Damn, Shally, with all those horror stories. I'm suprised you still consider owning a dog.

[RedskinsDave]

Here's a dog who breeds:

http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/070819/070219_britney_vlrg_6a.widec.jpg

[ryflan47]

Here's a dog who breeds:

http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/070819/070219_britney_vlrg_6a.widec.jpg

If she's a dog does that mean we can call her a bi....

[ryflan47]

I wanna name my dog BAUER

[shally]

Damn, Shally, with all those horror stories. I'm suprised you still consider owning a dog.

we had a great result with our first boxer

both of them were raised from pups


that is the only way we would have a dog, so we have remained consistent in our position.. bsides with all the cats around to train the pup each time, we were guaranteed to have a good dog.. LOL

[smoak]

Most bad dogs are a result of something their owner did or did not do.

Agreed. Same goes with young children.

[shally]

Agreed. Same goes with young children.


"..... some are born bad... some achieve badness.... and some have badness thrust upon them.....