Gibbs, Redskins prepared for "well researched" Free Agency

[ChiefPowhatan17]

This came across the AP wire about 40 minutes ago.

Gibbs talks about doing their homework for free agency and cap space.

Nothing really new, that we don't already know, but I thought I'd share.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=nfl&id=2784521

[CNYSkinFan]

Heard it...seen it...all before

[Redskinfan28]

"You know we kind of go through a process there to evaluate each player, trying to find a player who is super-smart and kind of, you know, fits in with our team."

-Joe Gibbs on signing every player he has signed.

[ChiefPowhatan17]

I think that it is funny that the main talent they are interested in are only players who have played for GW before. In a few more years we will have all the Buffalo Bills here.

[RedskinRyan]

i hope they actually do it this time. im not for overspending on clements. fletcher would be ideal though.

[ChiefPowhatan17]

I agree Clements is too much, I would rather keep Springs and bring in Smoot.

[skinfanjon]

This stinks to high heaven of Lenny P.

Those Champ Bailey comments are spot on, except for, ya know, the accuracy part. I guess it doesn't bear mentioning that he refused to re-sign at any price, or that we got a RB out of the deal that lead us to the playoffs two years ago. No, that would require unbiased reporting.

I know it says AP, but it sounds like Lenny P to me.

[skinfanjon]

I agree Clements is too much, I would rather keep Springs and bring in Smoot.

I'm actually starting to root for bringing in Clements, but would be okay if we don't get him. I'm hoping for the quick tandem signing of he and Fletcher as our only flashy deals. I just feel like if we don't upgrade at CB then next season wll bring more disappointment.

[MikeBass]

I think that we will get it right this time. Believe it or not, we do not need a lot of changes to become a very good football team.

[RedskinsDave]

This stinks to high heaven of Lenny P.

Those Champ Bailey comments are spot on, except for, ya know, the accuracy part. I guess it doesn't bear mentioning that he refused to re-sign at any price, or that we got a RB out of the deal that lead us to the playoffs two years ago. No, that would require unbiased reporting.

I know it says AP, but it sounds like Lenny P to me.

Typical media crap. Facts are never as important as the overall message.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

I think that it is funny that the main talent they are interested in are only players who have played for GW before. In a few more years we will have all the Buffalo Bills here.
That wouldn't be bad seeing as they won all of those Super Bowls.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

This stinks to high heaven of Lenny P.

Those Champ Bailey comments are spot on, except for, ya know, the accuracy part. I guess it doesn't bear mentioning that he refused to re-sign at any price, or that we got a RB out of the deal that lead us to the playoffs two years ago. No, that would require unbiased reporting.

I know it says AP, but it sounds like Lenny P to me.
Unfortunately though the article is probably acurate other than the Bailey stuff. We'll see how it plays out, but Fletcher probably will get a better deal than what Pierce signed, and that's not good foresight by FO.

[esmith1790]

It seems to be slanted a little in that when it talks about "Gibbs, Redskins prepare for 'well-researched' free agency"

Does that mean they werent 'well-researched' before? Like they didnt care and picked guys by somehting else then? favorite food? favorite color? or what?

is that a shot at Gibbs and Co????

[Axegrinder]

I want to see some blue collar guys,instead of the overpriced,overhyped prima donnas.

[gibbs!we!trust!]

How about Donte Stallworth to the Redskins?:lol1:

[mexskins]

I think that we will get it right this time. Believe it or not, we do not need a lot of changes to become a very good football team.

Mike

We do need CB,LB and DL line help though.

I would be excited if we sign Clements, Fletcher and draft DL.

BY the way, I guess you are alittle bit mad at Extremeskins right ?? :)

Hail from Mexico !!!

[SkinsfaninNJ]

I want to see some blue collar guys,instead of the overpriced,overhyped prima donnas.
I think Fletcher fits that mold. He may get paid handsomely with the new deal, but he fills the holes and tackles well. Sort of dirty work I would say.

[MikeBass]

Mike

We do need CB,LB and DL line help though.

I would be excited if we sign Clements, Fletcher and draft DL.

BY the way, I guess you are alittle bit mad at Extremeskins right ?? :)

Hail from Mexico !!!

I agree Mex, that we need a little help here and there but I do not think that it is as extreme as people want to make it out as. I think that our defense will be our best unit this year. We have to remember that when we had a top ten defensive unit, for those 2 seasons, that our defense did not have any superstars but the players we did have was healthy and the system was working.

I am not sweating the defense, I am more worried about our passing game with our young QB at the helm and no true possession receiver.

As far as extremeskin is concerned, I can not stand the site. T.K. is very insulting to some of his members and HE is is the one who needs moderation.

and I will just leave that as that.

Hail

[SkinsfaninNJ]

I agree Mex, that we need a little help here and there but I do not think that it is as extreme as people want to make it out as. I think that our defense will be our best unit this year. We have to remember that when we had a top ten defensive unit, for those 2 seasons, that our defense did not have any superstars but the players we did have was healthy and the system was working.

I am not sweating the defense, I am more worried about our passing game with our young QB at the helm and no true possession receiver.

As far as extremeskin is concerned, I can not stand the site. T.K. is very insulting to some of his members and HE is is the one who needs moderation.

and I will just leave that as that.

Hail
Welcome aboard here Mike. I agree on the D. You don't have to look any further than New Orleans to see how fast a team can turn around.

I think we fill holes at corner (Springs/Rogers/Smoot) and MLB with Fletcher and draft a stud for the front four. The key again for us on D will be health. If they stay healthy, that unit can be elite, if not, we lack depth to adequately compete.

[MikeBass]

Welcome aboard here Mike. I agree on the D. You don't have to look any further than New Orleans to see how fast a team can turn around.

I think we fill holes at corner (Springs/Rogers/Smoot) and MLB with Fletcher and draft a stud for the front four. The key again for us on D will be health. If they stay healthy, that unit can be elite, if not, we lack depth to adequately compete.


Thanks for the welcome Skinsfan, I do ot think that we will have back to back seasons with the injury bug just killing our team. The D actually played some good games when our corners was healthy this past season, most notably the Saints and the Panthers games.

I am looking forward to some big things happening with the team this year. The NFC is a very weak conference so I think that making the playoffs will not be too difficult.

[bergiemoore]

I agree Mex, that we need a little help here and there but I do not think that it is as extreme as people want to make it out as. I think that our defense will be our best unit this year. We have to remember that when we had a top ten defensive unit, for those 2 seasons, that our defense did not have any superstars but the players we did have was healthy and the system was working.

I am not sweating the defense, I am more worried about our passing game with our young QB at the helm and no true possession receiver.

As far as extremeskin is concerned, I can not stand the site. T.K. is very insulting to some of his members and HE is is the one who needs moderation.

and I will just leave that as that.

Hail

Welcome!

I have a feeling that this system will feature the TE as the possession receiver. I think that they're looking to the WR's to stretch the field, while giving our RBs room to run, or tossing underneath to Cooley. The prevalence of the 2 TE set also underscores our need for depth at that position. I feel that if we are able to pick up some promising talent at TE and resign Yoder, our offense will be fine.

Oh, and resign Dock, or find someone in the draft who can start this year.

[silverspring]

i wonder if that is the same research they did on players like lloyd whom everyone knew has a history of lockerroom problems. Or archuleta who clearly can't cover. The only reason we will be limited in what we do is because the last three years have left us in cap hell and with no draft picks. Frankly I am sick of hearing this vague bs talk, please just start doing things right and leave it at that.

[bergiemoore]

i wonder if that is the same research they did on players like lloyd whom everyone knew has a history of lockerroom problems. Or archuleta who clearly can't cover. The only reason we will be limited in what we do is because the last three years have left us in cap hell and with no draft picks. Frankly I am sick of hearing this vague bs talk, please just start doing things right and leave it at that.

Maybe this has something to do with the other rumor about the FO house cleaning, and is not just more Gibbspeak.

[silverspring]

Maybe this has something to do with the other rumor about the FO house cleaning, and is not just more Gibbspeak.

Ever single year we do some kind of reorganization that is suppose to fix everything and then the next year we just do it again. It is aggravating because everyone knows that what we really need is a GM.

I just hope that we still have our 2008 draft picks come next week.

[skinfan43]

How about Donte Stallworth to the Redskins?:lol1:
Only if it's for Brandon Lloyd...we ain't gonna waste any $$ at WR unless we get salary relief at that position first, IMO...best we can hope for at this point seems to be :
1)Moss and Campbell have a killer offseason working together.
2)Ditto for Randle El.
3)Lloyd bounces back in '07.(only a very specific $$ scenario would have us cut him IMO)
4)Espy gets a good look, along w/a UDRookie or two.
5)Thrash continues to be a good WR in certain situations and shows the younger wideouts how to block. (also a plus that he excels on ST's)

That's about it for our receiving corps, unless we've got something :crazy: up our sleeve...

[frankez99]

I'm looking forward to a Smoot-Fletcher arrival.

And I bet there will be a odd-ball signing that none of us saw coming!

[MikeBass]

Welcome!

I have a feeling that this system will feature the TE as the possession receiver. I think that they're looking to the WR's to stretch the field, while giving our RBs room to run, or tossing underneath to Cooley. The prevalence of the 2 TE set also underscores our need for depth at that position. I feel that if we are able to pick up some promising talent at TE and resign Yoder, our offense will be fine.

Oh, and resign Dock, or find someone in the draft who can start this year.

Thanks,

Your point it well taken and while I do love Cooley as our TE, I would, also, like for Campbell to have more, short yardage, options in certain situations and for the team to not be so predictable in their passing attack. Right now it is either Cooley, Moss or the dump off to one of the backs. Defenses can adjust to that kind of passing game too easily and the results will be similar to the game this past season when our wide outs were held to 2 receptions for 27 yards, I think that Cooley got like 70 yards in that game but still our pass offense was terrible. I think that we will make the right adjustments though, whatever they may be and the offense will be a pretty good one but I think that the defense will shine in this coming season.

[skinfan43]

Thanks,

Your point it well taken and while I do love Cooley as our TE, I would, also, like for Campbell to have more, short yardage, options in certain situations and for the team to not be so predictable in their passing attack. Right now it is either Cooley, Moss or the dump off to one of the backs. Defenses can adjust to that kind of passing game too easily and the results will be similar to the game this past season when our wide outs were held to 2 receptions for 27 yards, I think that Cooley got like 70 yards in that game but still our pass offense was terrible. I think that we will make the right adjustments though, whatever they may be and the offense will be a pretty good one but I think that the defense will shine in this coming season.
Getting a healthy Portis back, along with a breakout past season for Betts, should make for many more quality opportunities (especially playaction) for all of our wideouts (especially Moss, IMO).
Notice I said should, by the way;)

[NCskinsfanatic]

Getting a healthy Portis back, along with a breakout past season for Betts, should make for many more quality opportunities (especially playaction) for all of our wideouts (especially Moss, IMO).
Notice I said should, by the way;)
Hopefully we'll still be able to run on the left side when it's all said and done...:banghead: .

[ChiefPowhatan17]

This post just set me off into positive SKINS mode. So, I to trust that Gibbs will handle tonight and make sure we do the right things and sign the right guys. I do like the idea of the Fletcher-Smoot-E.Johnson arrival. Maybe wishful thinking.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

It would have been much more entertaining to read an article in which Gibbs said that "we did absolutely no homework or prepared in any way for free agency or the draft. We're just gonna go ahead and sign some random guys here and there..probably based on whether they have funny names."
I would have loved to see the reaction to that statement...I haven't read the article, but by the title, I really doubt it contains something that is not completely obvious.

[redskin_rich]

It seems to be slanted a little in that when it talks about "Gibbs, Redskins prepare for 'well-researched' free agency"

Does that mean they werent 'well-researched' before? Like they didnt care and picked guys by somehting else then? favorite food? favorite color? or what?

is that a shot at Gibbs and Co????
The "well researched" part came directly out of Gibbs mouth, so what do you think? If anything, maybe Gibbs made a point to stress that after last year's mess with Lloyd and Arch.

[ChiefPowhatan17]

I am sure they turned over every stone to make sure they get the right guy for the Redskins. They already feel like they know London Fletcher. I just don't know about over paying for Clements. I like getting back Smoot. We need to cultivate more young players.

[NCskinsfanatic]

I think Fletcher and Smoot will be the most expensive additions and I don't think they will be outrageous, the rest will be for depth and situational packages. We will trade down if we can acquire a 2nd in the scenario...just my 2 cents.

[skinsfan36]

it should be a smart offseason if sign two guys that will know are defense the minute they are signed and a leader and a well liked former teamate,smoot and fletcher. i think we look at a replacement for dock then,a blocking te(minimual loss if bust see fauria)a few high motored dlinemen should be on our radar.

[BurgundyNGold]

Heard it...seen it...all before
Seriously. I'd be more interested if he said, "We all had three different persectives on who to get. I wanted the best player. Dan wanted the guy with the most market appeal. And, as he reminded me 34 times over 6 hours, Vinny like cheese".

[esmith1790]

The "well researched" part came directly out of Gibbs mouth, so what do you think? If anything, maybe Gibbs made a point to stress that after last year's mess with Lloyd and Arch.

I stand corrected. cant believe that i didnt catch it. It's good to see that Gibbs is somewhat stating that they didnt do 100% last year and this year by concentrating on fewer players they can maximize their efforts.

We all knew of Lloyds issues on and off the field stuff, it has been posted here in threads numerous times and how the FO didnt catch that is a mystery to me.

[BurgundyNGold]

And just to supplement my earlier sardonic remarks, I'm wondering exactly how this year's "well researched" FA session differ from last year's "well researched" FA effort?

[HAWGZHEAD]

And just to supplement my earlier sardonic remarks, I'm wondering exactly how this year's "well researched" FA session differ from last year's "well researched" FA effort?You mean the well researched effort that included noone knowing about Lloyd's attitude problems lol.

[BurgundyNGold]

You mean the well researched effort that included noone knowing about Lloyd's attitude problems lol.
Actually, I was referring to the one that resulted in not noticing that Archuleta couldn't cover a lazy cadaver, but, yeah, that'd work too, lol.

[akhhorus]

Actually, I was referring to the one that resulted in not noticing that Archuleta couldn't cover a lazy cadaver, but, yeah, that'd work too, lol.

Don't worry, Gibbs fired that Chicken with Lupus who failed to use google.

[HAWGZHEAD]

Don't worry, Gibbs fired that Chicken with Lupus who failed to use google.What a mental image lol.

[akhhorus]

What a mental image lol.

pp-PLUCK-KK *cough*(or whatever you do when you have lupus).

[HAWGZHEAD]

pp-PLUCK-KK *cough*(or whatever you do when you have lupus).It is actually a really bad case of chicken pox so it is double the funny!

[akhhorus]

It is actually a really bad case of chicken pox so it is double the funny!

And if they had just gotten him a ride to the Doctor's/Vet's, we would have found out about Arch's inability to cover a 3 Toed Sloth with Leprosy or Lloyd's Reverse Gandhism.

[HAWGZHEAD]

It is actually a really bad case of chicken pox so it is double the funny!oops I should have said "like" a really bad case of chicken pox.


And if they had just gotten him a ride to the Doctor's/Vet's, we would have found out about Arch's inability to cover a 3 Toed Sloth with Leprosy or Lloyd's Reverse Gandhism.
:lol1:

[BIGSEF3]

Actually, I was referring to the one that resulted in not noticing that Archuleta couldn't cover a lazy cadaver, but, yeah, that'd work too, lol.

haha, we really need to start an "archuletta couldnt cover...." thead. i think there have probably been more jokes at his expense than any redskin in recent memory

[mexskins]

I agree Mex, that we need a little help here and there but I do not think that it is as extreme as people want to make it out as. I think that our defense will be our best unit this year. We have to remember that when we had a top ten defensive unit, for those 2 seasons, that our defense did not have any superstars but the players we did have was healthy and the system was working.

I am not sweating the defense, I am more worried about our passing game with our young QB at the helm and no true possession receiver.

As far as extremeskin is concerned, I can not stand the site. T.K. is very insulting to some of his members and HE is is the one who needs moderation.

and I will just leave that as that.

Hail

Welcome Mike. This is a wonderful site with great fans and mods.

LIke I said on my previous post, I would be thankful if we endup with a MLB, a CB and some DL Help.

I agree about the offense. I dreamed that we addressed all our needs on the defense via FA and we ended up selecting the standout WR on the draft. I was dreaming though :(

[BurgundyNGold]

haha, we really need to start an "archuletta couldnt cover...." thead. i think there have probably been more jokes at his expense than any redskin in recent memory
Speaking of jokes, I don't think he could cover Milton Berle either. ;)

[santanadasavior]

Welcome Mike. This is a wonderful site with great fans and mods.

LIke I said on my previous post, I would be thankful if we endup with a MLB, a CB and some DL Help.

I agree about the offense. I dreamed that we addressed all our needs on the defense via FA and we ended up selecting the standout WR on the draft. I was dreaming though :(

I dreamt that we had some draft picks.

[BluCollarGuy]

Thanks,

Your point it well taken and while I do love Cooley as our TE, I would, also, like for Campbell to have more, short yardage, options in certain situations and for the team to not be so predictable in their passing attack. Right now it is either Cooley, Moss or the dump off to one of the backs. Defenses can adjust to that kind of passing game too easily and the results will be similar to the game this past season when our wide outs were held to 2 receptions for 27 yards, I think that Cooley got like 70 yards in that game but still our pass offense was terrible. I think that we will make the right adjustments though, whatever they may be and the offense will be a pretty good one but I think that the defense will shine in this coming season.
I'm also new here, so don't run me out if I ramble at first.

Keep in mind that Randel El came on pretty strong after Loyyd was sat down.

I also think this team is a lot closer than most people think, I would trade down in the draft and collect another pick or 2. A pass rush end can be found later in the draft, and one of the top 2 or 3 LBs or DB(my wish list: Willis or Landry) with what we end up with in the 1st rnd.

Fletcher would be a good pick up, he's probably got 3 more years left, Clements will cost too much, Smoot doesn't have enough left, unless he's VERY cheap, don't bother.

Between a healthy Springs(for 3/4 of the season, that's all we can expect) and PP back, another shot from the many undrafted FAs, we'll find help at corner.

Hail Skins!

[RedskinRyan]

Between a healthy Springs(for 3/4 of the season, that's all we can expect) and PP back, another shot from the many undrafted FAs, we'll find help at corner.

Hail Skins!

it's getting tiresome to every year try to count on some undrafted rookie free agent to come in and be a star. it'd be nice to have the draft picks and hope we find a nice mid-round gem instead.

time is running out on the team that gibbs has built. contracts are starting to pick up, and who knows who will restructure and who wont. plus we need to worry about extensions for cooley and taylor(who im not even sure i want to sign on a big contract he hasnt proven he's worth). i really hope this is a smart, conservative offseason.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

IIRC, we did our homework last offseason and failed the cumulative test. :(

[MikeBass]

I'm also new here, so don't run me out if I ramble at first.

Keep in mind that Randel El came on pretty strong after Loyyd was sat down.

I also think this team is a lot closer than most people think, I would trade down in the draft and collect another pick or 2. A pass rush end can be found later in the draft, and one of the top 2 or 3 LBs or DB(my wish list: Willis or Landry) with what we end up with in the 1st rnd.

Fletcher would be a good pick up, he's probably got 3 more years left, Clements will cost too much, Smoot doesn't have enough left, unless he's VERY cheap, don't bother.

Between a healthy Springs(for 3/4 of the season, that's all we can expect) and PP back, another shot from the many undrafted FAs, we'll find help at corner.

Hail Skins!

Randle El is, definitely, a good #3/gadget receiver but I do not think that he compliment Moss, very well, as a #2.

As far as the draft is concerned, I think that we will get a better feel on what we are going to do in the draft after the FA signing period is complete but I, honestly, believe that we are going to be drafting more for depth this season rather than finding that one guy who is going to crack the starting line-up.

Our D works better when we are aggresive up front and we become more aggresive when we can depend on our play from the corner position. I think that that position will be addressed in the next day or two and that alone will bring us back toward the middle of the pack defensively. I think that the MLB position will be adressed also via free agency. I really have no clue as to what the FO is going to do about a D-lineman but if the guys coming out is as good as the people are saying that they are on these forums, that may be the one position that we aquire, through this years draft, that may start eventually this coming season but I do not think that he will even start at the beginning of the season.

[urobm]

Randle El is, definitely, a good #3/gadget receiver but I do not think that he compliment Moss, very well, as a #2 in the coming weeks.

As far as the draft is concerned, I think that we will get a better feel on what we are going to do in the draft after the FA signing period is complete but I, honestly, believe that we are going to be drafting more for depth this season rather than finding that one guy who is going to crack the starting line-up.

Our D works better when we are aggresive up front and we become more aggresive when we can depend on our play from the corner position. I think that that position will be addressed in the next day or two and that alone will bring us back toward the middle of the pack defensively. I think that the MLB position will be adressed also via free agency. I really have no clue as to what the FO is going to do about a D-lineman but if the guys coming out is as good as the people are saying that they are on these forums, that may be the one position that we aquire, through this years draft, that may start eventually this coming season but I do not think that he will even start at the beginning of the season.



As far as a compliment to Moss, how about Mike Williams when he is released by detroit.

[RedskinRyan]

As far as the draft is concerned, I think that we will get a better feel on what we are going to do in the draft after the FA signing period is complete but I, honestly, believe that we are going to be drafting more for depth this season rather than finding that one guy who is going to crack the starting line-up.


you dont draft for depth at #6, you're looking for a superstar. what happens in FA will dictate our draft. london fletcher is practically already a redskin, so i think willis is out of the question. i think we'll also pursue corners like smoot and hood, not particularly them though. and then use our 1st rounder on dline.

[MikeBass]

you dont draft for depth at #6, you're looking for a superstar. what happens in FA will dictate our draft. london fletcher is practically already a redskin, so i think willis is out of the question. i think we'll also pursue corners like smoot and hood, not particularly them though. and then use our 1st rounder on dline.

No you do not draft for depth at #6 but you do with second and third round picks if you trade that #6, which is just as big of a possibilty, if not more of one, than using that 1 pick and, basically, taking yourself out of the draft after using it.

But like I stated earlier if these guys are as good as people on these boards are saying that they are, maybe using the pick will be worth it. I just do not think that we will use our one pick on a D-lineman when none are blowing the scouts minds this year.

[MikeBass]

As far as a compliment to Moss, how about Mike Williams when he is released by detroit.


I know that this will not be a popular post but I would love to see that happen.

[RedskinRyan]

I know that this will not be a popular post but I would love to see that happen.

it would be interesting. but i dont think it will pan out. although this is the last chance he has to prove he wants to play in the NFL. for his sake, i hope he gets his body in great condition and aims to excel.

[SkinsFan4Life2003]

*refuses to get excited about anything in the offseason*

[SkinsfaninNJ]

As far as a compliment to Moss, how about Mike Williams when he is released by detroit.
I say no to Mike Williams only because people have questioned his heart and committment to football. We don't need a guy like that around.

As far as ARE at the end of the last season, I agree he is not a typical #2, but the fact that he got a chance to play more and click with JC is very encouraging. That type of experience will only make him a better #3. Don't be surprised to see him put up big numbers (maybe bigger than Lloyd) next year.

[betterczechyourself]

"You know we kind of go through a process there to evaluate each player, trying to find a player who is super-smart and kind of, you know, fits in with our team."

-Joe Gibbs on signing every player he has signed.

LOL

This stinks to high heaven of Lenny P.

Those Champ Bailey comments are spot on, except for, ya know, the accuracy part. I guess it doesn't bear mentioning that he refused to re-sign at any price, or that we got a RB out of the deal that lead us to the playoffs two years ago. No, that would require unbiased reporting.

I know it says AP, but it sounds like Lenny P to me.


I love how Lenny P is so bad that any time a bad and/or factually incorrect article surfaces everyone immediately thinks of him.

Oh, and resign Dock, or find someone in the draft who can start this year.

I'm all for re-signing Dock at a reasonable price (even overpaying him a little than what we know he is worth), but not to the tune of $40 mil. After watching the combine and reading up on this years crop of guards, there look to be a number of starting-caliber guards that could go anywhere from low first to mid 4th. If we can trade down, or somehow aquire more picks in the middle rounds, then we should pounce on one of these guys. We need to start thinking about aquiring young talent for the line anyway.


Also, I gotta say, I always had conflicting feelings about Smoot. Sure, his play was pretty good, but the way he ran his mouth you'd have thought he was a hall of famer. Most of the time I wished he would just shut up and play. He's almost always hurt, and while I admire the fact that he plays through pain, he doesn't have the upper body strength to be a force in run support to begin with, let alone after the injuries build up. Plus, the whole love boat thing doesn't seem to mesh with the coaching staffs philosophy on character. That being said, they did bring Sellers back after a DUI during his time with cleveland. If smoot is committed to being a better, more humble person and player, then I could see them bringing him in. I've always thought that, ideally, smoot is a nickle back. If we do bring him in, I hope that is the case.

[smoak]

I'd like to give a very warm welcome to MikeBass and BluCollarGuy!!

I hope you both stick around and I am looking forward to seeing your POV. Feel free to PM and owner or mod, and there is a thread on guidelines if you have any questions.... Most importantly, have a blast! This quite a fun group!

[BluCollarGuy]

I'd like to give a very warm welcome to MikeBass and BluCollarGuy!!

I hope you both stick around and I am looking forward to seeing your POV. Feel free to PM and owner or mod, and there is a thread on guidelines if you have any questions.... Most importantly, have a blast! This quite a fun group!
Appreciate the welcome, I hope to stick around as well.

Hail Skins!

[American Soldier]

So far so good financially for the Redskins brass.They even jammed the Cowboys by running up the demand on Davis. Something tells me that the Redskins really had no intentions on signing Davis. The fact that Dock got paid the way he did in Buff only solidified my belief that Davis' visit was a smoke screen. Davis was a higher tier guard than Dock to me so it made no sense. It's wonderful to know that the Cowgirls didn't see through it. I mean even a caveman could see through that.

Anyway the Redskins are looking decent because there's no real rush on trying to fill the guard spot. I'm sure they've got their eyes on one anyway. One other thing....I'm sure each team keeps an eye on other teams cap situation because every detail of your opponent should be (especially divisional teams). With that being said, I think the Redskins slammed Dallas on this - again. In a few years (maybe even next - maybe sooner) we'll see the affects of the Davis signing.

[Miller Time]

I agree Clements is too much, I would rather keep Springs and bring in Smoot.

Yeah, somehow if we had paid to pick up Clements, Smoot would have gone to N.Y. New Orleans, or San Fran and had better production for $2,000,000 per yr. ala Walt Harris.

[shally]

I say no to Mike Williams only because people have questioned his heart and committment to football. We don't need a guy like that around.

As far as ARE at the end of the last season, I agree he is not a typical #2, but the fact that he got a chance to play more and click with JC is very encouraging. That type of experience will only make him a better #3. Don't be surprised to see him put up big numbers (maybe bigger than Lloyd) next year.

i think if detroit picks up both mcdonald and curtis from st louis, the williams will be gone for certain.

i would pass on him

[shally]

So far so good financially for the Redskins brass.They even jammed the Cowboys by running up the demand on Davis. Something tells me that the Redskins really had no intentions on signing Davis. The fact that Dock got paid the way he did in Buff only solidified my belief that Davis' visit was a smoke screen. Davis was a higher tier guard than Dock to me so it made no sense. It's wonderful to know that the Cowgirls didn't see through it. I mean even a caveman could see through that.

Anyway the Redskins are looking decent because there's no real rush on trying to fill the guard spot. I'm sure they've got their eyes on one anyway. One other thing....I'm sure each team keeps an eye on other teams cap situation because every detail of your opponent should be (especially divisional teams). With that being said, I think the Redskins slammed Dallas on this - again. In a few years (maybe even next - maybe sooner) we'll see the affects of the Davis signing.

i agree that davis is likely to be a 1 or 2 year roster player for dallas.. and then the cap hit will come.

[MikeBass]

I say no to Mike Williams only because people have questioned his heart and committment to football. We don't need a guy like that around.

As far as ARE at the end of the last season, I agree he is not a typical #2, but the fact that he got a chance to play more and click with JC is very encouraging. That type of experience will only make him a better #3. Don't be surprised to see him put up big numbers (maybe bigger than Lloyd) next year.

I have to disagree with ARE putting up big numbers. This will be his 6th season and I do not think that he is going to, all of sudden, start tearing up the league. I think that what you see is what you get regarding him. I think that 400 maybe 500 yards his his max but he is good at what he offers but we should not have expected any more than what he is built for.

I think that he is doing well for a college QB turned receiver but I, also, think that we are going to have to except that he will never be a solid #2.

[shally]

i think all the "well researched" concepts went out the window with the dockery signing..

the paradigm has definitely shifted this free agency period, although there are some teams holding the line

[joethefan]

i think all the "well researched" concepts went out the window with the dockery signing..

the paradigm has definitely shifted this free agency period, although there are some teams holding the line

no I think it went out the door when they say they did all this research on Taylor....thank GOD he got his act straight....cause at one point, he was showing pac man how to be a jackall....