OFFICIAL BRIGGS POLL

[PennSkinsFan]

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[AliBabba]

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Our 6th for Briggs and 31 is fine with me. If we can hold off till draft day and nothing else, better, comes along I say pull the trigger. If the decision cannot wait till draft day and must be made now -- do it but don't give up anything but the 6th pick.

[CNYSkinFan]

I would only favor a trade for Briggs if a third round draft pick is sent over by Chicago as well. Since that is not an option I rather not trade for him at all.

I believe Draft Day will present the best opportunity for trade down scenarios and if not perhaps Chicago will be desperate enough by then to throw in the third to make the deal happen.

[tbfoster1]

Do not trade for Briggs at all.

[redskin_rich]

Not at all. I don't care what the deal is.
Regardless of how talented Briggs is, this team needs to get away from the 'buy high, sell low' mentality.
We have the most expensive coaching staff in the league. They need to coach up Rocky to be another Briggs.

[dj_stouty]

I've been on the fence, but if a gun was put to my head, I'd so NO TRADE.

I'd rather stand pat at #6 or trade down to the middle of the first round.

[PennSkinsFan]

No trade!

[MONK_in_HOF]

I am in the no trade camp.

I want them to hold the 6 pick, and hopefully they will be able to trade down once if not twice and acquire additional draft picks. I am all for the rumored trade with ATL. Trade back the 6 pick for the 8 and 75.

If Chi wants to sweeten the pot and throw in another pick I would be all for the trade. Don't see that happening though.

[Red Bear]

with all thats gone on and chicago taking forever to prepare a counter offer, i say to hell with it and dont make the trade at all. the whole briggs situation is brung on by chicago being cheap, plain and simple, nothing more than cheapness.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

I could live with option A, but if I absolutely had to choose, I would say No Trade, and invest our asset (the #6 pick) on defense, either by picking a d-lineman or by trading down...

[Redskinfan28]

no trade

[NamVet4]

No trade for Briggs. What is Briggs without Urlacher? Would he have had the same results? Does our Beloved Team have an "Urlacher" to pair with Briggs? Is our current D- line equivalent, or near equivalent, to the Bears?
Hold the pick!
Hold the pick!
(At least until draft day!)

[warpaint]

no trade at all

[skins111111]

no trade-----Lamar and Rocky will do fine especially with a YOUNG STUD DL man in front of them....look at next year and the years after....Rocky will be a stud and so will Gains Adams or Alan Branch----I hope I hope I hope

[WRSK1NS]

I am in favor of the trade, he is a proven player and we can probably find good or better value with the 31st pick.

[danny's stogie]

Trade. 2 players are better than one.

[AliBabba]

Trade. 2 players are better than one.
yep.

since they (CHI) are drawing this out, I say let it sit until draft day and when they haven't gotten any better offers, and if we haven't either, we can do the trade then.

I don't understand how some of you would rather draft someone at #6 and not have Briggs. I would take Briggs and a kid drafted at 31 over just one player selected at six every single day of the week.

Now trading down, I am ALL FOR, but it takes two to tango and if that doesn't happen this move will improve our team.... seems plain and simple to me.

[helimech24]

yep.

since they (CHI) are drawing this out, I say let it sit until draft day and when they haven't gotten any better offers, and if we haven't either, we can do the trade then.I agree with you!

I don't understand how some of you would rather draft someone at #6 and not have Briggs. I would take Briggs and a kid drafted at 31 over just one player selected at six every single day of the week.
Because we don't need another linebacker in our already crowded corps. We have Lemar, London, Rocky, and Marcus already. Why add another? What we need is defensive linemen that will make an impact right away like our #6 will fetch.

Now trading down, I am ALL FOR, but it takes two to tango and if that doesn't happen this move will improve our team.... seems plain and simple to me.But so will just using our #6 pick if no one wants to trade down.

[dj_stouty]

Because we don't need another linebacker in our already crowded corps. We have Lemar, London, Rocky, and Marcus already. Why add another? What we need is defensive linemen that will make an impact right away like our #6 will fetch.

About 1,000 posts ago in the other thread, someone mentioned that the Skins haven't used a 1st rounder on a D-lineman since Kenard Lang in '97. Maybe its time to switch things up and grab a stud d-lineman early in the round.

[CarMike]

I think we should be given an extra draft pick and Briggs. I'm tired of getting screwed with draft picks. It's time for others to get screwed every now and then.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

Not at all. I don't care what the deal is.
Regardless of how talented Briggs is, this team needs to get away from the 'buy high, sell low' mentality.
We have the most expensive coaching staff in the league. They need to coach up Rocky to be another Briggs.
Brillant. No trade.

[AliBabba]

I agree with you!
They are the one's that are in trouble here, not us, let's see Danny's negotiation/biz skills put to good use.

Because we don't need another linebacker in our already crowded corps. We have Lemar, London, Rocky, and Marcus already. Why add another? What we need is defensive linemen that will make an impact right away like our #6 will fetch.
I agree that we do not "need" another LB. This is not just another LB, its LB, Lance Briggs, a stud, an impact player that ANY defense can use. We can get a very talented defensive lineman at #31. The difference b/t a DL chosen at 6 as opposed to one chosen at 31 does not even come close to making up Lance Brigg's value.

But so will just using our #6 pick if no one wants to trade down.
Using our #6 on one DL when we could have one DL and Briggs seems INSANE to me.

Clearly everyone knows that we need DL help, but it seems that the FO is willing to do anything but draft a DL with that pick. They are willing to trade up for CJ, down for Briggs, or any other number of rumors out there, but they don't seem to interested in any of the DL. That should tell us that maybe our scouts don't think any of these guys are worth a pick that high or the contract value they would demand.

About 1,000 posts ago in the other thread, someone mentioned that the Skins haven't used a 1st rounder on a D-lineman since Kenard Lang in '97. Maybe its time to switch things up and grab a stud d-lineman early in the round.
Since 31st is still, although barely, a first rounder this would signify a change or improvement to recent history.

[WinnpegSkinsFan]

No trade.

However I am willing to concede that using our #6 on an impact Dlineman is riskier than Briggs & #31.
I would prefer to trade down from #6 for another 1st day pick but that isn't always easy to do.

[SkinsASchamps]

I hope we dont trade. Please keep our draft pick and get a stud rookie.

[bwparker]

As usual the result I want isn't up there. But if Gibbs and co. want Briggs I'm fine with the offer we sent their way, but the counter-offer is ridiculous. No way on that.

[BurgundyNGold]

Do not trade for Briggs at all. Take the 6th, trade down a few times and try to address multiple needs.

[shally]

option A only because it never hurts to add playmakers

[Redskin4Life]

Option E... none of the above. I just want to see what would happen with the guys we got. And I'd like to see us get the windfall of draft picks instead of Chicago...

[Ibleedburgundy]

I said option A. Giving up McIntosh would really bother me seeing as how much we gave up for him and he hasn't even hardly played yet.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Our 6th for Briggs and 31 is fine with me. If we can hold off till draft day and nothing else, better, comes along I say pull the trigger. If the decision cannot wait till draft day and must be made now -- do it but don't give up anything but the 6th pick.
My sentiments exactly...

[GolfFreak]

Do not trade for Briggs at all.

Ditto ... I could live with the 1st choice, but I'd rather them not trade for Briggs. He won't be on the field enough to make it worth it IMO.

[bergiemoore]

I'd like to see the trade happen, but only on draft day, and only if we have not gotten any fair value offers from other teams for our #6. Trading down for multiple day one picks would be my first choice, but this is a close second.

[bergiemoore]

Ditto ... I could live with the 1st choice, but I'd rather them not trade for Briggs. He won't be on the field enough to make it worth it IMO.

You really think that we would trade for Briggs and then not play him? The man is a beast in coverage and run support.

[smoak]

My first choice is "no trade" , but I voted for "Favor Briggs and 31st for Redskins 6th pick" b/c I am not opposed to it. Getting a Pro Bowl player for simply swapping to the bottom of the first round is great value IMO. I just prefer to swap down and acquire picks.

[3Taylor6]

the only way i would favor any of these trades is if we got briggs, 31st and the bears 2nd rounder for our 6th and rocky...that atleast wouldnt make all the picks that went into rocky completely pointless

[flave1969]

I am not convinced that 6th is a good position for us in the draft. I am not convinced by either Branch, Anderson or Adams at that position.

I would love Okoye to be our pick but I am not convinced 6th will be a guaranteed trade down position either. I know Landry is a hot prospect and Atlanta may like to jump up but I am not so sure they will.

So it leaves me with this question how are we going to maximise this draft and the fact is Briggs would maximise this draft for us. We would still have 31 and I am not unhappy with the level of DL talent at that pick. As long as we pick up a DL at 31 I am happy with option 1.

[bergiemoore]

Clayton from ESPN is reporting that option A is the Skin's final offer: LINK (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2823964)

[frankez99]

MEMORANDUM FOR: Redskins

FROM: frankez99

SUBJECT: Briggs Trade

1. No

2. Please address any questions to frankez99 at DSN 453-xxxx.



frankez99
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[MWballer]

I am in no way in favor of Briggs and the second to last pick of the first round for the 6th pick. We could get more by trading down. If we make this play I want a 2nd(because we gave up ours this year for McIntosh), 3rd(since were giving up the sixth pick in the draft)

If we could pull something like this off I'd be happy then we take Brandon Merriweather(prolly didn't spell it right) and a couple DT with the 2nd and 3rd.

[firehawk157]

Clayton from ESPN is reporting that option A is the Skin's final offer: LINK (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2823964)

Great! I'm not over-enthused about the trade, but it's nice to see us say this is what we want and we're not doing anything else. Maybe somebody more informed then myself can tell me if Washington has lost a step (back injury), what would be the chances of seeing him play as DE? I know he played it in college.

[firehawk157]

I am in no way in favor of Briggs and the second to last pick of the first round for the 6th pick. We could get more by trading down. If we make this play I want a 2nd(because we gave up ours this year for McIntosh), 3rd(since were giving up the sixth pick in the draft)

If we could pull something like this off I'd be happy then we take Brandon Merriweather(prolly didn't spell it right) and a couple DT with the 2nd and 3rd.

I really don't see too much of a difference between a 5th or 6th round DT and a 3rd round DT. On top of that, don't we also need a DE?

[GolfFreak]

You really think that we would trade for Briggs and then not play him? The man is a beast in coverage and run support.

One of them has to sit, would you rather not play Washington or Fletcher? We'll have three stud LBs, but how often will all three be on the field together?

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

i dont like this trade at all. just say no, 'skins FO!

[Skaggsrules]

Not for it

[CNYSkinFan]

I find it funny 2/3 of hr is against this...I thought I was in a minority.

[bergiemoore]

One of them has to sit, would you rather not play Washington or Fletcher? We'll have three stud LBs, but how often will all three be on the field together?

Play 3 LBs unless it is an obvious passing situation, and even then, unless the offense brings in 4 wide-outs, that LB corps should be able to handle it. Remember that this guy comes from a Cover 2 scheme, and is great in space. All three LBs would be on the field for at least 2 out of 3 downs.

[redskin_rich]

I find it funny 2/3 of hr is against this...I thought I was in a minority.
The minority that are for this trade have been more vocal.

[hail2skins]

I say no trade. Yes, Briggs has played well but is that because of the system he is in? Can he do it without having Urlacher in the middle? Would we use him the right way? I say trade down and get some defensive linemen in here. Yeah, we want out LB's making tackles but if they are that means they're already 5 or 6 yards downfield.

[firehawk157]

I find it funny 2/3 of hr is against this...I thought I was in a minority.

I voted against, but I'm in the wait and see category. I think it COULD be a good trade (provided we don't give anyone up) but at this point, I'm a bit antsy about giving up our #6.

[firehawk157]

I say no trade. Yes, Briggs has played well but is that because of the system he is in? Can he do it without having Urlacher in the middle? Would we use him the right way? I say trade down and get some defensive linemen in here. Yeah, we want out LB's making tackles but if they are that means they're already 5 or 6 yards downfield.

Better then Sean Taylor have to make all the tackles 5-6 yards downfield...

[bergiemoore]

I say no trade. Yes, Briggs has played well but is that because of the system he is in? Can he do it without having Urlacher in the middle? Would we use him the right way? I say trade down and get some defensive linemen in here. Yeah, we want out LB's making tackles but if they are that means they're already 5 or 6 yards downfield.

It could also mean that the LB's are filling the gaps and stopping the run. I think that on most teams, the LBs lead in tackling.

Sean Taylor led the Skins in tackling. Which is worse?

[SkinsfaninNJ]

I find it funny 2/3 of hr is against this...I thought I was in a minority.
Along the same lines, who are the 2 Bears fans that favor sending a pick and Marshall instead of jjust a pick.

[CNYSkinFan]

Along the same lines, who are the 2 Bears fans that favor sending a pick and Marshall instead of jjust a pick.
Which is why i favor public polls, so we can flog people.

[dogfight6]

We do not need a linebacker.We need to trade down and get D-Line help and a guard. Why is everyname player always going to the Skins. Why haven"t the press said we are trading #6, Moss, Portis and Campbell for Randy Moss? GOD I WISH THE SEASON WOULD START.

[dj_stouty]

Why are we still voting/discussing this?

Several sources say this trade is dead in the water.

[Carmelo]

I voted against the trade. I'd rather we beef up our line than add another linebacker at this point. In all cases, I'd rather wait until draft day before trading away our pick.

[LATrueRedskin]

I was OK with the trade, and OK without it. It didn't really matter to me, as long as we didn't give up anything more than what was proposed.

[BIGSEF3]

i am scratching my head as to why 2 people selected the option to have marshall thrown in the deal.... given the options (and assuming a person was in favor of the trade), why would anyone be in favor of giving up a player, when there was an option to keep him? thats like saying you would rather pay $10 dollars for a hamburger than pay $7.

[The Iceman]

I say no Briggs at all. Maybe we should be trading this pick with Indianapolis for Freeney, or to aquire a guy like Hovan. Why linebacker? Let's work on D-Line.

[jtovb2005]

No.

We need a lineman that can make an impact first rushing the passer and playing decently vs the run.

[skinsfan36]

i voted against the trade we can pick up an extra draft pick by trdaing down then get dline in the 1st and guard of the future in the 3rd

[rskinsfan10]

I am in favor of the trade, he is a proven player and we can probably find good or better value with the 31st pick.My sentiments.

[Patrick]

68% are against a trade so far .................. me too UNLESS the deal is for:
Swapping 1st round draft picks + Briggs AND Chicago's second and thrid for Rocky.
Otherwise walk away from the table and start doing your research on who to draft! ........... or at least start talking to Atlanta about trading picks.

[smoak]

68% are against a trade so far .................. me too UNLESS the deal is for:
Swapping 1st round draft picks + Briggs AND Chicago's second and thrid for Rocky.
Otherwise walk away from the table and start doing your research on who to draft! ........... or at least start talking to Atlanta about trading picks.

Unless Atlanta thinks Minnesota is taking Landry (which is possible), I don't think they trade up. Just my thought, but Landry seems to be a great fit in Atlanta... We'll see though.

[bwparker]

Unless Atlanta thinks Minnesota is taking Landry (which is possible), I don't think they trade up. Just my thought, but Landry seems to be a great fit in Atlanta... We'll see though.
Atlanta may want to trade up to stop US from taking Landry too. We do have a "hole" now that AA is gone and everybody knows how much we love to draft DBs

[dukeuch]

If Chicago really wants to trade Briggs, they are going to get a better deal than what we put on the table. Exchanging first round picks for a Pro-Bowl LB (and maybe we also wanted a second or third rounder too?). C'mon, that was fantasy.

[ChiefPowhatan17]

I would rather have our #6 pick and keep Marshall and Rocky. Look Rocky is going to develop into a really good player, everything that he showed last year looked really promising. He was on the ball carrier on ever special teams play. He has the speed to make an impact and he has great instincts.
Now with Lemar Marshall, here is a guy who knows our system inside and out, he can play all three Linebacker positions and has good hands. Yes he was undersized in the middle, but now we have London Fletcher. Keep Lemar.
Finally, use our #6 pick to get either an impact D-lineman or more picks.

Briggs wants 36 million and like 20 some guaranteed, too much, we need to keep our cap down so we can pay for our draft picks. Briggs is disgruntle and greedy, we don't need him in our locker room. Plus how is he going to do with out Urlacher next to him in a different system.

With the guys we have, we know we have some good guys, with Briggs he might not fit.

[DUCKIN_TACKLERS]

I put in that i favor the Briggs trade cause its the only thing that I will not blow my top over. I wouldnt call that favor, its more like acceptance but id be okay with it.

[firehawk157]

New poll idea! Let's predict the next trade rumor that ALMOST gets done for our #6...

[Biggie]

I think it's a dumb idea and I really hope it doesn't go through.

EDIT: Never mind. Just saw it fell through.

[OCSkinzFan]

New poll idea! Let's predict the next trade rumor that ALMOST gets done for our #6...
It's not a rumor if the teams try to make a deal.:rolleyes:

[OCSkinzFan]

I think it's a dumb idea and I really hope it doesn't go through.

EDIT: Never mind. Just saw it fell through.
According to Larry Mayer, as of April 4 the Bears are still negotiating with the Redskins.

Read it Here (http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?STORY_ID=3253)

[bgforever]

According to Larry Mayer, as of April 4 the Bears are still negotiating with the Redskins.

Read it Here (http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?STORY_ID=3253)

by now its reported NO DICE from the Skins to Bears on current counteroffer.

Skins refuse to add Rocky in the mix with #6 for #31 and Briggs.

[urobm]

No trade for Briggs period. No need for him, he will carry a huge salary, and their are much more pressing needs.

[Skinreds]

We dont need anymore linebackers....i hope we can trade down but not toooo far, i say we trade down get a 2nd or 3rd. Then if we dont trade down too far pick up Amobi, because he is so young and has only room for improvement.

[BluCollarGuy]

I say no trade. Yes, Briggs has played well but is that because of the system he is in? Can he do it without having Urlacher in the middle? Would we use him the right way? I say trade down and get some defensive linemen in here. Yeah, we want out LB's making tackles but if they are that means they're already 5 or 6 yards downfield.
Has it occured to you that Urlacher is as good as he is because Briggs is on the outside? Doing a little research, I think Briggs is a better lb than Urlacher, and that's why Chicago won't let him go just yet, they need him for this SB run.

Originally Posted by AliBabba
Our 6th for Briggs and 31 is fine with me. If we can hold off till draft day and nothing else, better, comes along I say pull the trigger. If the decision cannot wait till draft day and must be made now -- do it but don't give up anything but the 6th pick.
THis is EXACTLY how I see it because 2 impact players are better than one. Don't give up ANY more.

Straigt and simple.

[skins111111]

its over and we didn't get him---------(thank god)-----all hail Gains Adams

[urobm]

its over and we didn't get him---------(thank god)-----all hail Gains Adams


I second the first part, but i would prefer all hail to Jaamal Anderson.

[redskin2117]

Not at all. I don't care what the deal is.
Regardless of how talented Briggs is, this team needs to get away from the 'buy high, sell low' mentality.
We have the most expensive coaching staff in the league. They need to coach up Rocky to be another Briggs.



Couldn't be said better than this!!!!

[hail2skins]

Has it occured to you that Urlacher is as good as he is because Briggs is on the outside? Doing a little research, I think Briggs is a better lb than Urlacher, and that's why Chicago won't let him go just yet, they need him for this SB run.

You mention research but don't say what it is. I believe most folks would take Urlacher over Briggs any day of the week. So, why won't Chicago give him a long-term deal for what he's worth if they want to make a SB run?

[greatest2]

Has it occured to you that Urlacher is as good as he is because Briggs is on the outside? Doing a little research, I think Briggs is a better lb than Urlacher, and that's why Chicago won't let him go just yet, they need him for this SB run.


interesting idea, can you show us the research that proves briggs is a better backer then urlacher. Usually the middle guy leads the group because he puts them in position and funnels runners out of the middle. You present an interesting idea, but before i put briggs ahead or urlacher i would like to see your research

[redskin_rich]

Has it occured to you that Urlacher is as good as he is because Briggs is on the outside? Doing a little research, I think Briggs is a better lb than Urlacher, and that's why Chicago won't let him go just yet, they need him for this SB run.

Not trying to pile on here but seriously, you should either show us what you researched or at least give an explanation, when making a comment like that.

Urlacher was the defensive MVP of the league in '05 and is arguably the best LB in the league. As a matter of fact, Briggs himself has said this.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/9148817
"He's the best linebacker in the league," said Briggs, who plays next to Urlacher and had a breakout season himself. "He's making it happen all day, every day."

[urobm]

Not trying to pile on here but seriously, you should either show us what you researched or at least give an explanation, when making a comment like that.

Urlacher was the defensive MVP of the league in '05 and is arguably the best LB in the league. As a matter of fact, Briggs himself has said this.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/9148817


Yes, briggs is a very good LB, but not nearly in the class of an Urlacher. I think both of them made the other guys job easier. When it all comes down to it though Urlacher is a top 3 MLB in the league and has the production and consistency to prove it.

[NFCEAST]

If Washington gives up anything the 6th only. Would almost be better to just keep the pick. Find something needed there as well.

[skinsfan36]

someone on warpath said they heard on the radio the redskins wont answer the bears phone calls now. so this trade is definetly dead for now

[James F. Quinn]

someone on warpath said they heard on the radio the redskins wont answer the bears phone calls now. so this trade is definetly dead for now

I kinda doubt the Skins won't take any team's calls. It's part of the job of the FO.

Who knows, maybe they'd be offering us their entire DL for mark brunell?:rolleyes:

[firehawk157]

I kinda doubt the Skins won't take any team's calls. It's part of the job of the FO.

Who knows, maybe they'd be offering us their entire DL for mark brunell?:rolleyes:

I'd even throw in Todd Collins for that deal.