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ryflan47
04-24-2007, 04:52 PM
08 Presidential election.

Vote. Discuss.

shally
04-24-2007, 05:12 PM
08 Presidential election.

Vote. Discuss.

depends who are the candidates... right now i am hoping for eugene v debs to announce his candidacy:lol1:

Keino
04-24-2007, 06:06 PM
Mitt Romney. Why? Because we should have a President named "Mitt". Letterman had me dying with that one. When asked what "Mitt" was short for, Letterman answered "Mittman". LMAO.

In all seriousness, Im voting for whoever the Dems roll out.

Fathead
04-24-2007, 06:08 PM
Undecided.

skinfanatic
04-24-2007, 07:17 PM
even though i hate her, i feel like clinton might be needed to go completely opposite of bush to help moderate national politics. however, of the choices, i like mccain.

ryflan47
04-24-2007, 07:48 PM
After seeing everything that Giuliani did with NYC and cleaning its streets, and especially how he handled 9/11, I don't see myself voting for anyone else. I've been sold on Giulani since before he decided to run, and I doubt that it's going to change unless he doesn't make it to the election.

CNYSkinFan
04-24-2007, 08:53 PM
I am voting for Hillary unless Gore gets in, and then I really will be torn. I like Obama but whetyher he is willing to say it or not he is running for #2.

redskin_rich
04-24-2007, 09:09 PM
Way too early for me. I won't have any idea until the primaries and even then it could change. I can say that I won't vote for Hillary though.

rskinsfan10
04-24-2007, 09:28 PM
Democratic ticket.

ryflan47
04-24-2007, 09:35 PM
If I had to choose a Democrat to be President, I'd chose Obama. As a matter of fact, I like Obama better than McCain. As someone who considers himself extremely conservative, I wouldn't mind voting Democrat if it was Obama on the ticket. Anybody but Hilary.

WarEagle
04-24-2007, 09:50 PM
Mitt or Rudy.

redskin_rich
04-24-2007, 09:55 PM
BTW, no option for R-Fred Thompson? I find him the most intriguing of the potential Republican candidates for many reasons.

ryflan47
04-24-2007, 10:01 PM
BTW, no option for R-Fred Thompson? I find him the most intriguing of the potential Republican candidates for many reasons.
See the last option of the poll. I thought it was Tommy Thompson?

redskin_rich
04-24-2007, 10:29 PM
See the last option of the poll. I thought it was Tommy Thompson?
There is a Fred Thompson and a Tommy Thompson. Tommy has already thrown his hat in the ring, so he is more "official" as a candidate but as a moderate, I don't have any confidence in him, he is a Bush crony.

Ibleedburgundy
04-24-2007, 10:41 PM
I'm going to vote and volunteer for Obama. CNY, he's gonna take Hillary down to chinatown!

WarEagle
04-24-2007, 11:49 PM
I'm going to vote and volunteer for Obama. CNY, he's gonna take Hillary down to chinatown!

Then you'll have to see the Democrats debate this Thursday night, live from S. Carolina. The Repubs debate on Thursday, May 3rd, at the Reagan Library.

shally
04-25-2007, 01:37 AM
I'm going to vote and volunteer for Obama. CNY, he's gonna take Hillary down to chinatown!

nah.. unfortunately, hill and bill will have obama kneecapped.. nobody stands in their way

Ibleedburgundy
04-25-2007, 06:30 AM
nah.. unfortunately, hill and bill will have obama kneecapped.. nobody stands in their way

I liken the Republican outlook on Hillary to my outlook on the Yankees. I'm bitter and I already know they are going to win, and the bitterness actually causes me to overrate them. That way I get to be more bitter. :)

smoak
04-25-2007, 06:33 AM
There needs to be an option for "none of the above". :D

Patrick
04-25-2007, 07:41 AM
The one who is committed to a “Common Sense” approach to issues that are in critical need of action or that “R” word (i.e. Health Care, Education, Military, Environment, Energy, HLS, and Crime). I realize there is no one on the list so my next point of interest would be a candidate that pushed for “Line Item Veto” and a “Flat Tax” …………. Geezzzz, guess I’m not voting for anyone.

dj_stouty
04-25-2007, 08:05 AM
I'm voting for the Republican who wins the primary.

But as far as which one prior to that? I have no clue yet.

I've personally met Rudy, so it would be cool to say I shook hands with a Presidential Candidate. But I also think Fred Thompson could really be a strong figure for the White House. Everytime I think of him, I picture him as the PI in Cape Fear. Bad to the bone and doing whatever it takes to fight crime. lol (I believe he was the character who ordered the "hospital job" on Deniro's character.)

But in all seriousness, I'll need to do more homework before I decide if McCain, Rudy or Fred get my primary vote. Too many pros/cons for each one right now.

Keino
04-25-2007, 08:46 AM
I am voting for Hillary unless Gore gets in, and then I really will be torn. I like Obama but whetyher he is willing to say it or not he is running for #2.

He has specifically said he will not participate in a ticket that has him as VP (If thats what you mean by #2). He would go back to the Senate. Sounds like JFK prior to the 60 election.

Spence
04-25-2007, 08:54 AM
I'm pretty sure Obama would accept the VP position on a Dem ticket, but I'm also pretty sure that's not what he is after. The #2 position would be his consolation prize, not his goal.

Keino
04-25-2007, 09:13 AM
I'm pretty sure Obama would accept the VP position on a Dem ticket, but I'm also pretty sure that's not what he is after. The #2 position would be his consolation prize, not his goal.

I don't think he would. I think he would go back to the Senate and then see what 2012 holds for him.

dj_stouty
04-25-2007, 09:29 AM
I don't think he would. I think he would go back to the Senate and then see what 2012 holds for him.

I agree. The guy is young and he wouldn't want to have the "VP" label hold him back...especially if he would have to run up against the current President.

CNYSkinFan
04-25-2007, 09:34 AM
I'm going to vote and volunteer for Obama. CNY, he's gonna take Hillary down to chinatown!
if by Chinatowne you mean he will accept the offer ovf VP she gives him then you will be right.

CNYSkinFan
04-25-2007, 09:36 AM
He has specifically said he will not participate in a ticket that has him as VP (If thats what you mean by #2). He would go back to the Senate. Sounds like JFK prior to the 60 election.
Edwards said that too last year...Every Candidate says that....but when they are offered the keys to the executive office and a chance to run for pres in 8 years unopposed in his/her party, it is hard to turn down.

Ibleedburgundy
04-25-2007, 09:45 AM
if by Chinatowne you mean he will accept the offer ovf VP she gives him then you will be right.

care to place a friendly wager? Perhaps a case of beer at the 2008 tailgate? According to sportsbook, Hillary is 2-to-1 and Obama is 3-to-1.

I don't know anyone who likes Hillary. Not one freakin person. She's getting by on name recognition, Republican sabateurs in polls, and $$$. Obama appeals to all sorts of people, including conservatives (makes no sense from an issues standpoint, but that is my observation).

Ibleedburgundy
04-25-2007, 09:46 AM
Then you'll have to see the Democrats debate this Thursday night, live from S. Carolina. The Repubs debate on Thursday, May 3rd, at the Reagan Library.

Thanks for the heads up. Hope C-SPAN is there.

CNYSkinFan
04-25-2007, 09:51 AM
care to place a friendly wager? Perhaps a case of beer at the 2008 tailgate? According to sportsbook, Hillary is 2-to-1 and Obama is 3-to-1.

I don't know anyone who likes Hillary. Not one freakin person. She's getting by on name recognition, Republican sabateurs in polls, and $$$. Obama appeals to all sorts of people, including conservatives (makes no sense from an issues standpoint, but that is my observation).
Wait until the debates. Hillary and Bill both excel when they are out campaigning and on tv in debates. The suffer from the caricatures the right spew about them. When they are on the trail they win people over. There is a reason Hillary is ahead in the polls my frioend. In the NE and more importantly in the midwest and pacifica coast she is not the villain she is made out to be in VA and the south.

Obama is a Rock Star, no doubt about it. But he is also short on resume. He is Howard Dean right now. The very first mistake he makes and he may very well crumble in popularity. His race is all built on promise and faith, once that is shattered everything else goes.

I LIKE obama alot. M I want him to be VP bvecause I want him to be president someday.

BTW DJ likes fred Thompson? Why is it the Republicans hate hollywood unless they run for office under the GOP banner?

Spence
04-25-2007, 09:53 AM
I don't think he would. I think he would go back to the Senate and then see what 2012 holds for him.Sean, they ALL say they won't take the #2 spot. Edwards said it in 04. Bush said it in '80. It's what they always say. They almost never mean it. Fact is, the longer you stay in the Senate, the more votes you have to defend. That's why Bob Dole never had a chance and why Joe Biden doesn't have a chance either. Get out of the Senate as fast as you can. The Senate is like a nice, warm blanket. Feels very comfy and before long, you've gone to sleep for 20 years.

Obama will take it. He'd be a fool not to and he's no fool. The ideal VP scenario for Obama would be if Gore gets in. I think Gore would almost certainly win and he would almost certainly select Obama as his VP.

But as I said, I think Obama is hoping for the top job for himself. And why not? Unless Gore gets in, I'm with Barack.

CNYSkinFan
04-25-2007, 09:58 AM
Sean, they ALL say they won't take the #2 spot. Edwards said it in 04. Bush said it in '80. It's what they always say. They almost never mean it. Fact is, the longer you stay in the Senate, the more votes you have to defend. That's why Bob Dole never had a chance and why Joe Biden doesn't have a chance either. Get out of the Senate as fast as you can. The Senate is like a nice, warm blanket. Feels very comfy and before long, you've gone to sleep for 20 years.

Obama will take it. He'd be a fool not to and he's no fool. The ideal VP scenario for Obama would be if Gore gets in. I think Gore would almost certainly win and he would almost certainly select Obama as his VP.

But as I said, I think Obama is hoping for the top job for himself. And why not? Unless Gore gets in, I'm with Barack.
I agree a Gore obama ticket is more likely to win then a clinton -obama ticket. A Clinton-Obama ticket may write off every southern state except perhaps Louisiana (Katrina resentment) and Florida (Clintons do well in S. Florida).

However you do not need the South to win. Kerry almost proved that in Ohio this last time out, and with a Democratic governor in Ohio and I think a new Sec of state there as well the problems in Ohio will not be repeated.

If the Dem candidate can make waves in the midwest then it can happen.

akhhorus
04-25-2007, 09:58 AM
"Akh in 08!"

Spence
04-25-2007, 09:59 AM
"Akh in 08!"No to Barack. Yes to Buttcrack!

Spence
04-25-2007, 10:00 AM
"Akh in 08!"He's tanned, rested, and slightly tipsy. Akh in '08!

Spence
04-25-2007, 10:02 AM
"Akh in 08!""My fellow Americans. After the last 8 years, our country needs a President who isn't afraid of a little alcohol. Or even a lot of alcohol. We've seen what a mess these teetotalers have made of things. Vote for me and you can be confident that your President won't be the only having a belt before noon. Our enemies will get a belt, too -- right in the chops!"

CNYSkinFan
04-25-2007, 10:06 AM
"Akh in 08!"
Just what we need, love poems in the State of the Union.

akhhorus
04-25-2007, 10:15 AM
"My fellow Americans. After the last 8 years, our country needs a President who isn't afraid of a little alcohol. Or even a lot of alcohol. We've seen what a mess these teetotalers have made of things. Vote for me and you can be confident that your President won't be the only having a belt before noon. Our enemies will get a belt, too -- right in the chops!"

Transcript of Press Conference follows:
David Gregory: Mr. President, I would like to ask you about your tax---Mr. President?
President Akh: zzzzzzzzzzzzz(passed out over the podium)

shally
04-25-2007, 10:15 AM
"Akh in 08!"

finally !! someone worth voting for.. where do i contribute ?

shally
04-25-2007, 10:16 AM
"My fellow Americans. After the last 8 years, our country needs a President who isn't afraid of a little alcohol. Or even a lot of alcohol. We've seen what a mess these teetotalers have made of things. Vote for me and you can be confident that your President won't be the only having a belt before noon. Our enemies will get a belt, too -- right in the chops!"

sounds like nixon...:lol1:

Spence
04-25-2007, 10:17 AM
This is pretty incredible and impressive: Obama has swiped several of Bill Clinton's top fundraisers from Hillary. Now it appears he's poaching top Republican fundraisers, as well.John Canning has impeccable Republican credentials: He was a Pioneer, one of President George W. Bush's top fundraisers. He's the head of a leveraged- buyout firm. He's the deputy board chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago.

Now he has given the maximum campaign contribution, $4,600, to Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.

Canning says he's fed up with the Republican Party. ``It's become a party that's taken Neanderthal positions on things like stem-cell research and global warming,'' Canning, who was appointed to the Fed post in 2004, said in an interview. ``I no longer find myself on the same page.''

To Canning, 62, the party once represented individual rights. Then in 2005, the Republican-led Congress intervened in an effort to keep Terri Schiavo, a brain-damaged Florida woman, alive against her husband's wishes. The move was symbolic of Republican positions on social issues that Canning says he found increasingly frustrating.

Canning is one of a number of prominent Republicans who have turned against the party. At least two other Bush Pioneers are contributing to Obama this time, and Bush's chief 2004 campaign strategist, Matthew Dowd, assailed the president's second-term performance in an April 1 New York Times interview.

Canning said he likes Obama's approach to reducing greenhouse gases, his opposition to the Iraq war and the fact that he's spent so little time in Washington.

`Strongest Candidate'

``You know when they say someone's experienced, if that means they've spent a long time in Washington, I don't know if that's a pretty good deal,'' he said. ``He's the strongest candidate in the entire field from both parties.''
...
Obama also is attracting support from Republicans who aren't prominent in business. It's hard to go to one of his events and not meet at least one Republican, either curious about the senator or already converted.

Volunteer

Until two weeks ago, Kristen Martin was a lifelong registered Republican. On April 15, she wore a blue ``Obama Volunteer'' T-shirt while working a $25-a-person fund-raising crowd in Tampa, Florida.

``One of the reasons I support him is his stance on the war in Iraq,'' said Martin, 31, a registered nurse. ``It's just kills me the way we're viewed overseas.''

David Warden, 50, spent 30 years in the Navy, retiring with the rank of master chief. At an Obama low-dollar fundraiser in Milwaukee on April 15, he blushed and said he was a lifelong Republican.

``I like his perspective, his fresh ideas,'' said Warden, who gave $25 and said he's not considering any other candidates. ``This is the first Democrat I've ever supported, let alone gave money to.''Source (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20670001&refer=politics&sid=a57JFM1OfYvY)

Spence
04-25-2007, 10:19 AM
Transcript of Press Conference follows:
David Gregory: Mr. President, I would like to ask you about your tax---Mr. President?
President Akh: zzzzzzzzzzzzz(passed out over the podium)Snore more years! Snore more years!

CNYSkinFan
04-25-2007, 10:23 AM
This is pretty incredible and impressive: Obama has swiped several of Bill Clinton's top fundraisers from Hillary. Now it appears he's poaching top Republican fundraisers, as well.Source (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20670001&refer=politics&sid=a57JFM1OfYvY)
Obama no doubt has put together an impressive campaign so far. Much better then ANYONE thought he could. It all will depend on what happens if he stumbles in the early primaries (like Dean) and if he can recover. Remember Bill Clinton came in third in NH but he was the only candidate EVER to have lost the NH primary and end up winning the presidency.

shally
04-25-2007, 10:36 AM
Obama no doubt has put together an impressive campaign so far. Much better then ANYONE thought he could. It all will depend on what happens if he stumbles in the early primaries (like Dean) and if he can recover. Remember Bill Clinton came in third in NH but he was the only candidate EVER to have lost the NH primary and end up winning the presidency.

hard to give that much importance to NH... maybe it is having a good staff in place early ? and did dean not win in NH ? winning it is not a guarantee of anything

Spence
04-25-2007, 10:37 AM
hard to give that much importance to NH... maybe it is having a good staff in place early ? and did dean not win in NH ? winning it is not a guarantee of anythingNo, Dean lost to Kerry by 10 points in New Hampshire.

shally
04-25-2007, 10:38 AM
No, Dean lost to Kerry by 10 points in New Hampshire.
thanks for the correction.. maybe winning NH is important for the perception ??

CNYSkinFan
04-25-2007, 10:58 AM
hard to give that much importance to NH... maybe it is having a good staff in place early ? and did dean not win in NH ? winning it is not a guarantee of anything
it is a question of staffing and strategy vs. popularity. Winning the early primaries is all about building a national organization to get ready for the fall campaign.

The problem is now EVERYTHING will be decided by end of Febuary as states are scrambling to move their primary dates (NY went from late March to Feb 5th). This makes NH even more important as it is the only way to really build momentum before the new Super Tuesday.

Spence
04-25-2007, 11:02 AM
thanks for the correction.. maybe winning NH is important for the perception ??That's a lot of it. New Hampshire saved Bush 1.0 in 1988 after a disastrous 3rd place finish in Iowa. [That's what got John Sununu the job as Bush's chief of staff. He was New Hampshire Governor at the time.]

On the other hand, New Hampshire went for John McCain in 2000, but it didn't help McCain win the next primary, which was in South Carolina. New Hampshire used to be incredibly important for the GOP because it was such a typical Republican state. However, as the state has moved from the red to the blue camp, I think New Hampshire isn't a good indicator of who will win the GOP primaries. Obviously, it is better to win it than to lose it, but I think winning South Carolina is more important for a GOP candidate. The craziest state in the union [a place so crazy that Akhh was considered too normal and was asked to leave], is the big prize for the GOP prez contenders. I think New Hampshire matters more for the Dems now.

Spence
04-25-2007, 11:57 AM
From McCain's speech today:
They won't accept that firemen and policemen are unable to communicate with each other in an emergency because they don't have the same radio frequency.
That's a shot at Giuliani.

CNYSkinFan
04-25-2007, 12:21 PM
From McCain's speech today:

That's a shot at Giuliani.
This one is going to get nasty nasty nasty. McCain is in the last race of his life and already is biutter about 2000. Guiliani is a nYC politician, used to nastiness... and the GOP does not want to lose the WH and risk being a long term minority party.

OCSkinzFan
04-25-2007, 03:06 PM
This is pretty incredible and impressive: Obama has swiped several of Bill Clinton's top fundraisers from Hillary. Now it appears he's poaching top Republican fundraisers, as well.Source (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20670001&refer=politics&sid=a57JFM1OfYvY)
Obama's got Moe!

shally
04-25-2007, 03:12 PM
This one is going to get nasty nasty nasty. McCain is in the last race of his life and already is biutter about 2000. Guiliani is a nYC politician, used to nastiness... and the GOP does not want to lose the WH and risk being a long term minority party.

mccain was too passive against bush.. it wont happen this time

i agree it will be very nasty if mccain is serious about a run.. and actually it may be nastier in the repub primaries than in the general election

WarEagle
04-25-2007, 08:13 PM
McCain and Jon Stewart almost took it outside on the Daily Show last night.
Jon was very fiesty and McCain didn't expect it.

When you get to the site, just scroll down to the McCain interview, part 1.
Parts 1 and 2 last 10 minutes or so in total.

http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/the_daily_show/videos/most_recent/index.jhtml