Montgomery Expanded Role This Year

[bgforever]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/21/AR2007062102056.html


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So it was Montgomery that was half baking it in year one. Had to break those ole' college habits.

[hogs86]

I think he can get the job done .Some think you must be a first round pick. Yes he is no Dave Butz but he can stuff the middle ( maybe a little faster ). I am looking forward to seeing him becoming a solid player.:)

[skins111111]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/21/AR2007062102056.html


http://web.wireimage.com/images/tnm/10152321.jpg

So it was Montgomery that was half baking it in year one. Had to break those ole' college habits.

Great artical, I know the FO really like Montgomery and Golston and they both seem to be excelling this preseason. Can't wait to see them in action.
I really like that we are developing some good young talent that can be the coner stone for years to come. I'm excited about Carter at DE also.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

I don't know. We were down right awful when Golston and Montgomery played together. With Griff's injury history, I am quite concerned about the DT. Hopefully Monty can live up to his potential.

[bgforever]

Great artical, I know the FO really like Montgomery and Golston and they both seem to be excelling this preseason. Can't wait to see them in action.
I really like that we are developing some good young talent that can be the coner stone for years to come. I'm excited about Carter at DE also.

What was interesting to me is that it was treated like a "here's something you guys didn't know" (which was on the positive side of things). I mean there was virtually no mention of this guy till now. So they were getting great vibes from this DL while we were mystified at times on what we thought was skips to do something about the line.

I am getting excited now, because like you guys said, these guys are young and fiesty, and with Grif back, Carter will only need 1.5 seconds increase to do some damage :D

[SkinsfaninNJ]

What was interesting to me is that it was treated like a "here's something you guys didn't know" (which was on the positive side of things). I mean there was virtually no mention of this guy till now. So they were getting great vibes from this DL while we were mystified at times on what we thought was skips to do something about the line.

I am getting excited now, because like you guys said, these guys are young and fiesty, and with Grif back, Carter will only need 1.5 seconds increase to do some damage :D

I have bought a lot of the offseason hype (especially centered around JC), but this one I will have to see to believe. Often in this world a person never learns what it takes to perform up to his potential.

[Battle Cat]

I don't know. We were down right awful when Golston and Montgomery played together. With Griff's injury history, I am quite concerned about the DT. Hopefully Monty can live up to his potential.
Well I don't blame those two guys for that. Two rookie defensive tackles playing beside each other are going to struggle no matter who they are to a certain extent.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

Well I don't blame those two guys for that. Two rookie defensive tackles playing beside each other are going to struggle no matter who they are to a certain extent.

Great point.

[bgforever]

I have bought a lot of the offseason hype (especially centered around JC), but this one I will have to see to believe. Often in this world a person never learns what it takes to perform up to his potential.

Understood, when one sees the historic lessons of yesteryear, but when the players clearly identifies what we ALL saw last season when he did play, it makes sense to what he's saying about being true to form. He may not be a great player, but I believe he knows he can impact that line, like Grif did in his first year with us. He may not do it as often, but a heck of lot more and when it counts this time around. Yes the wait and see is in effect,but that's got me a bit pumped!

[SkinsfaninNJ]

Understood, when one sees the historic lessons of yesteryear, but when the players clearly identifies what we ALL saw last season when he did play, it makes sense to what he's saying about being true to form. He may not be a great player, but I believe he knows he can impact that line, like Grif did in his first year with us. He may not do it as often, but a heck of lot more and when it counts this time around. Yes the wait and see is in effect,but that's got me a bit pumped!

I think my problem is I got angry at the article. This is very shortsighted I know, but I generally view most people as overachievers or underachivers, and once you become one you never change. I think living up to potential through hard work is something learned early on and if those lessons are not learned when your young, it's too late.

I've just seent it to often, even people close to me, who don't understand that the effort they are giving, while they believe it to be their best, could actually be better.

Obviously, I hope I'm wrong and Monty has learned a valuable lesson that size alone won't get it done at this level, and he is going to have to work harder than he ever has in his life at an activity that he has performed for most of his life.

[skinsfan36]

i hope the golston/monty trio live up to their expectations. i think they will from what we are hearing about their improvement this offseason

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

oh how sweet it would be for rocky, big monty and golston to all be big time contributors on defense this season. our sub 1st round draft picks would finally be of some use, lol.

[Death_Venom]

So they were getting great vibes from this DL while we were mystified at times on what we thought was skips to do something about the line.

This I can believe.....After watching a few games I had begin to think that Monty had a good deal of potential and that was why they continued to rotate these guys in & out (besides the obvious injuries to the D-Line)............Lets hope Monty will get his butt in gear and begin playing like a true REDSKIN player............

[shally]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/21/AR2007062102056.html


http://web.wireimage.com/images/tnm/10152321.jpg

So it was Montgomery that was half baking it in year one. Had to break those ole' college habits.

man ! would that be good if he lives up to his potential. having 2 guys like griff in the interior of the line would be awesome

[shally]

i hope the golston/monty trio live up to their expectations. i think they will from what we are hearing about their improvement this offseason

golston monty trio ????? i know those guys are big, but 2 guys counting as 3 ??? ( JK.....)

[SpicyMcHaggis]

I'm still trying to decide whether or not this article should make me happy...

[greatest2]

AM is the most talented D lineman on the roster? besides Grif that not saying much. Also, if he was so talented how did he fall through all the way down in the draft? work habits aren't enough to drop the guy that far in the draft. Im just playing the role of bad guy here to put some perspective. Lets not expect this guy to be a top 10 DT, but lets expect him to be above average, and durable. I HOPE IM WRONG, AND HE IS THE NEXT MARCUS STROUD, AND ALL THOSE OTHER TEAMS THAT PASSED ON HIM WILL WISH THEY DIDN'T. But i would like to see it, and im glad he can become a solid football player

[SpicyMcHaggis]

AM is the most talented D lineman on the roster? besides Grif that not saying much. Also, if he was so talented how did he fall through all the way down in the draft? work habits aren't enough to drop the guy that far in the draft. Im just playing the role of bad guy here to put some perspective. Lets not expect this guy to be a top 10 DT, but lets expect him to be above average, and durable. I HOPE IM WRONG, AND HE IS THE NEXT MARCUS STROUD, AND ALL THOSE OTHER TEAMS THAT PASSED ON HIM WILL WISH THEY DIDN'T. But i would like to see it, and im glad he can become a solid football player

Honestly, from a 5fth round pick with questionable work habits, just being an average NFL player would be fine by me.
But if I were the Skins, I would avoid comparisons with guys like Stroud. He doesn't need the added pressure.

[shally]

Honestly, from a 5fth round pick with questionable work habits, just being an average NFL player would be fine by me.
But if I were the Skins, I would avoid comparisons with guys like Stroud. He doesn't need the added pressure.

from the neck down, he is stroud... if his head is now screwed on right the sky is the limit

[SpicyMcHaggis]

from the neck down, he is stroud... if his head is now screwed on right the sky is the limit

Unfortunately there have been tons of players who from the neck down are Stroud..what remains to be seen is if the talent and the committment to be a pro-bowl player are there. So far, honestly, we have not seen that at any level. There is a reason why Stroud was the 13th overall pick and AM was a 5th rounder.
I really do hope he becomes a great player, since, as is well document, I have my doubts about our current defensive line.

[Hr fan]

Honestly, from a 5fth round pick with questionable work habits, just being an average NFL player would be fine by me.
But if I were the Skins, I would avoid comparisons with guys like Stroud. He doesn't need the added pressure.

This time of year is filled with hype, because there is nothing but rumors going on. BTW, exonerate the 'Skins comparison to Stroud - that comparison was made by Wynn who played with Stroud. This may raise the comparison one inch over hype.

[Keino]

Unfortunately there have been tons of players who from the neck down are Stroud..what remains to be seen is if the talent and the committment to be a pro-bowl player are there. So far, honestly, we have not seen that at any level. There is a reason why Stroud was the 13th overall pick and AM was a 5th rounder.
I really do hope he becomes a great player, since, as is well document, I have my doubts about our current defensive line.

This was my thought when I read the article as well. The one thing that encourages me is that this was written by JLC, who seems to be fairly objective. If it was written by Fitzgerald or one of the other team writers I would be even more skeptical.

I really hope that these 3 players that are being talked about for their improvement (Campbell, Rocky and Monty) have improved as much as we are being led to believe. If they have this team could be in very decent shape.

[Redskin4Life]

I think my problem is I got angry at the article. This is very shortsighted I know, but I generally view most people as overachievers or underachivers, and once you become one you never change. I think living up to potential through hard work is something learned early on and if those lessons are not learned when your young, it's too late.

I've just seent it to often, even people close to me, who don't understand that the effort they are giving, while they believe it to be their best, could actually be better.

Obviously, I hope I'm wrong and Monty has learned a valuable lesson that size alone won't get it done at this level, and he is going to have to work harder than he ever has in his life at an activity that he has performed for most of his life.
Wasn't Griff considered an underachiever as a Giant? People can change... hopefully Monty and Golston will impress this year.

[Redskin4Life]

AM is the most talented D lineman on the roster? besides Grif that not saying much. Also, if he was so talented how did he fall through all the way down in the draft? work habits aren't enough to drop the guy that far in the draft. Im just playing the role of bad guy here to put some perspective. Lets not expect this guy to be a top 10 DT, but lets expect him to be above average, and durable. I HOPE IM WRONG, AND HE IS THE NEXT MARCUS STROUD, AND ALL THOSE OTHER TEAMS THAT PASSED ON HIM WILL WISH THEY DIDN'T. But i would like to see it, and im glad he can become a solid football player
Wasn't Monty damaged goods as well as being an underachiever going into the draft... for some reason, I remember all of our second day picks in that draft as being really athletic guys that were hurt.

[ChiefPowhatan17]

I am glad that he is serious about being good. I really think that late round draft picks can materialize when given time.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

Wasn't Griff considered an underachiever as a Giant? People can change... hopefully Monty and Golston will impress this year.

Not exactly. His rookie year was the year the Giants went to the SB. He played in a DT rotation and was down right dominant at times and always played well. He was a solid starter after that for the Giants but was never the dominant force he was the first year until 2004 with us.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

This time of year is filled with hype, because there is nothing but rumors going on. BTW, exonerate the 'Skins comparison to Stroud - that comparison was made by Wynn who played with Stroud. This may raise the comparison one inch over hype.

Yeah, I'm sorry, I was referring to Wynn. I don't think anybody should be making those comparisons.

[culpeper]

whenever a team wins a super bowl there are always those stories about unheralded players 'stepping up'.

if we want to get there, we have a blueprint of the guys that need to do so (rocky, golston, AM, JC, llyod, wade, smoot, landry/PP/OS)

is it just me or did this cool morning air feel like a tailgate party waiting to happen!? getting the itch!

[Patrick]

This was my thought when I read the article as well. The one thing that encourages me is that this was written by JLC, who seems to be fairly objective. If it was written by Fitzgerald or one of the other team writers I would be even more skeptical.

I really hope that these 3 players that are being talked about for their improvement (Campbell, Rocky and Monty) have improved as much as we are being led to believe. If they have this team could be in very decent shape.

Yep - that's it in a nut shell. IMPROVEMENT
Campbell - No doubt and should be really evident by the first or second preseason game (depending on the amount of playing time they have him scheduled for).
Rocky - We've been fed so much about him BUT until I see him on the field as a starter I can't make any judgement.
Montgomery - Nice article but "Hype" does come to mind. He was a project when drafted in a couple of areas (work ethic and playing technique) - he had the size. Now - if he's developed into a solid backup player - that's great (and what we need). Anything more would be amazing and great for us.................. BUT I've got to see it on the field!!!!!!

[culpeper]

is it just me or did this cool morning air feel like a tailgate party waiting to happen!? getting the itch!

nobody huh? ill have my own party then! :stout:

[bgforever]

nobody huh? ill have my own party then! :stout:

(burp), you caught the vapors

[James F. Quinn]

I don't know. We were down right awful when Golston and Montgomery played together. With Griff's injury history, I am quite concerned about the DT. Hopefully Monty can live up to his potential.

Oh, that was when Montgomery didn't think the coaches were really serious.

[James F. Quinn]

the golston/monty trio

Is Montgomery THAT big?

[HanburgerBum]

It seems evident now that the Skins basically stood pat at DT because they visualize a much improved rotation of Griffin/Golston/Montgomery/(Evans, Salavea or Wynn).

Monty's underachieving habits have up to now cost him a ton of money--5th rounders don't get much of a signing bonus. But, the money can still be made. Quality DTs are among the most sought-after players in the League. A couple of good seasons will bring Monty's next signing bonus into the 10 million range. Win-win for everybody.

[bigcmr]

I liked Montgomery when he was drafted. A big guy with lots of up side. Sounds like hes been working real hard and the coaches are pushing him. I like what I read so far. Lets see what he can do on the field.

[shally]

I liked Montgomery when he was drafted. A big guy with lots of up side. Sounds like hes been working real hard and the coaches are pushing him. I like what I read so far. Lets see what he can do on the field.

the nfl has had a ton of 1 or 2 year wonders with all the talent in the world and poor work ethic.. let's see if monty can keep it going when it is for real

[Hr fan]

I have bought a lot of the offseason hype (especially centered around JC), but this one I will have to see to believe. Often in this world a person never learns what it takes to perform up to his potential.

Physical talent = potential. Ability is usually developed over a college career, not a single offseason. Potential undeveloped = underachiever. Above all is confidence that he can do it so he can play through getting beaten by far more experienced OL (paying his dues). This is a long road he is traveling from where he started. Whether he has the persistence to travel it is questionable - most in his position never make it.

[esmith1790]

Physical talent = potential. Ability is usually developed over a college career, not a single offseason. Potential undeveloped = underachiever. Above all is confidence that he can do it so he can play through getting beaten by far more experienced OL (paying his dues). This is a long road he is traveling from where he started. Whether he has the persistence to travel it is questionable - most in his position never make it.


This is a good point, can we all say that player X that is going into his second year is poise to have a break-out year, based on the fact they have some playing time from last year and another offseason to better understand the playbook and hit the weight room and increase conditioning. If the player is really working hard in the offseason most teammates will see the dedication and state " His hard work in the offseason will pay dividends in the regular season"

Not to take anything away from Montgomery but it seems all generic speak that can be used for any player.

[MONK_in_HOF]

This is a good point, can we all say that player X that is going into his second year is poise to have a break-out year, based on the fact they have some playing time from last year and another offseason to better understand the playbook and hit the weight room and increase conditioning. If the player is really working hard in the offseason most teammates will see the dedication and state " His hard work in the offseason will pay dividends in the regular season"

Not to take anything away from Montgomery but it seems all generic speak that can be used for any player.

I agree and it happens year after year. Many players are hyped on different levels, from diamond in the rough types to high round picks destined to be stars soon, and they seldom meet these lofty expectations. Every year it seems the media in DC (and I am sure elsewhere) strikes up a buzz about certain players, usually derived from a positive statement or two offered by coaches and many fans expect the player to meet the expectations.

Many of these players on the smaller end of the scale never even make the team. Two that come to mind in recent past are Clifton Smith and Jesse Lumsden. Last year I recall Rocky McIntosh receiving very high praise from Williams prior to the season and he hardly saw the field on D until the last 4 games, all the while backing up W. Holdman.

This has happened too many times in recent history for me to buy into it instead of taking the wait and see it happen on the field when it matters approach. Hopefully Mongomety will improve drastically on the field this year b/c I am pretty sure our D-line will need that.

[BurgundyNGold]

Typical offseason article. I really don't care to read them anymore. Now, articles pondering whether or not the Redskins can repeat as Superbowl champions, I can live with. ;)

[shally]

I agree and it happens year after year. Many players are hyped on different levels, from diamond in the rough types to high round picks destined to be stars soon, and they seldom meet these lofty expectations. Every year it seems the media in DC (and I am sure elsewhere) strikes up a buzz about certain players, usually derived from a positive statement or two offered by coaches and many fans expect the player to meet the expectations.

Many of these players on the smaller end of the scale never even make the team. Two that come to mind in recent past are Clifton Smith and Jesse Lumsden. Last year I recall Rocky McIntosh receiving very high praise from Williams prior to the season and he hardly saw the field on D until the last 4 games, all the while backing up W. Holdman.

This has happened too many times in recent history for me to buy into it instead of taking the wait and see it happen on the field when it matters approach. Hopefully Mongomety will improve drastically on the field this year b/c I am pretty sure our D-line will need that.

it is one thing to heap praise on the top pick, it is another to go gaga over a second day pick.. a lot of us tend to do that (myself in that number)

[MONK_in_HOF]

it is one thing to heap praise on the top pick, it is another to go gaga over a second day pick.. a lot of us tend to do that (myself in that number)

Well I think the praise or expectations are usually relative to the cost of acquisition. But regardless each off-season the media seems to over hype a handful of players as solutions to past problems, whether it be a high pick upgrading the starting unit, or an UDFA becoming a role player/contributer. Most of us being fans long starved for Skins success latch on to these hopes and all too often buy into the expectations just to be let down when the results are nowhere near expectations, myself included. Also I feel it can lead to negative fan sentiment towards these individuals when lofty, or unlikely goals aren't fulfilled.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

Typical offseason article. I really don't care to read them anymore. Now, articles pondering whether or not the Redskins can repeat as Superbowl champions, I can live with. ;)

Better than the alternative. Look at the Dolphins. The veterans think their first round pick was a joke and they have a QB that can't take one hit.

[shally]

Better than the alternative. Look at the Dolphins. The veterans think their first round pick was a joke and they have a QB that can't take one hit.

still.. their qb situation improved from last year.. we need to bring heat on green or he can pick us apart

[bgforever]

still.. their qb situation improved from last year.. we need to bring heat on green or he can pick us apart

Which is why I am optimistic, yet a tad cool to being TOO hyped this year. We have, and once again I see all the good points being made from our "'professional Redskins fan experience", we have to make absolutely certain the "quality" of play is a continuance each day, not an exception.

[James F. Quinn]

still.. their qb situation improved from last year.. we need to bring heat on green or he can pick us apart
Added note: Trent Green has an entire TC to acquaint the Dolphins with how to defense the Al Saunders system. More drama to add to the opener.

[culpeper]

it is one thing to heap praise on the top pick, it is another to go gaga over a second day pick.. a lot of us tend to do that (myself in that number)

that all depends on one word...expectations. what is our expectation for AM? certainly not to be a pro bowler. but if he can play some important minutes and contribute to the team, i say the praise is warranted.

i personally was more excited about blades than i was landry on draft day. thats not to say blades is a better player overall, but i think we got a solid player at a position of need who can contribute immediately at some capacity.

being the top pick is a curse if you ask me. keshawn for instance is a certain HOF one day, but because of his draft status, IMO hes wasnt worth the pick. there are many who lived up to thier selection and even more that have exceeded it.

its all about one word...expectations

[SkinsfaninNJ]

Added note: Trent Green has an entire TC to acquaint the Dolphins with how to defense the Al Saunders system. More drama to add to the opener.

Haven't you heard, Saunder never calls the same play twice...in the same season. No one can crack his code.:)

[BurgundyNGold]

Better than the alternative. Look at the Dolphins. The veterans think their first round pick was a joke and they have a QB that can't take one hit.
And the Dolphins are correct on both counts, lol.

[redwolf1218]

Montgomery and Golston dropped in the draft for various reasons, all well-documented, which i wont go into here, but they could have been 1st round talents otherwise...if they really apply themselves they could be really good.

it sounds like they are doing that, and they have great veteran leadership and coaching to help them, if they have the heart.

[BurgundyNGold]

Montgomery and Golston dropped in the draft for various reasons, all well-documented, which i wont go into here, but they could have been 1st round talents otherwise...if they really apply themselves they could be really good.

it sounds like they are doing that, and they have great veteran leadership and coaching to help them, if they have the heart.
They definitely did fall and I'm glad to have them. I'm not sure if they were 1st round guys, but they were almost certainly Day 1 guys that were great value picks on Day 2.

[VegasSkinsFan]

Montgomery and Golston dropped in the draft for various reasons, all well-documented, which i wont go into here, but they could have been 1st round talents otherwise...if they really apply themselves they could be really good.

it sounds like they are doing that, and they have great veteran leadership and coaching to help them, if they have the heart.

Exactly, and this year will prove them or reveal their weakness. Coaches weem high on them and this will be their chance. The great thing is we have almost all picks next year and free agency if they dont work out. As has been mentioned more than once, next years picks need to be for DE,OL and possibly CB.

[BurgundyNGold]

Exactly, and this year will prove them or reveal their weakness. Coaches weem high on them and this will be their chance. The great thing is we have almost all picks next year and free agency if they dont work out. As has been mentioned more than once, next years picks need to be for DE,OL and possibly CB.
What I like is that they have had a whole year to get used to being a professional football player and not a student-athlete trying to play at the pro level. They are almost certainly much stronger and more polished than they were a year ago at this time or even in December.

[redwolf1218]

Exactly, and this year will prove them or reveal their weakness. Coaches weem high on them and this will be their chance. The great thing is we have almost all picks next year and free agency if they dont work out. As has been mentioned more than once, next years picks need to be for DE,OL and possibly CB.

next year's picks will probably be for best available talent, no matter what, same as this year taking a strong safety, because there are no roster spots open here after free agency. this team is usually already decided upon before heading into the draft.

no new talent has a real chance anyway because they stay loyal to guys like Wynn, Thrash, Rock, Jimoh, Salavea, Daniels, Collins, Kozlowski, Holdman, and the list goes on.

they will trade away picks for that "one" guy like Campbell or Rocky, or take the best available talent like Taylor, Rogers, Landry...it's really not a bad position to be in, it just hasnt really worked out yet.

if it works you can bet everyone will copy it.

[esmith1790]

Montgomery and Golston dropped in the draft for various reasons, all well-documented, which i wont go into here, but they could have been 1st round talents otherwise...if they really apply themselves they could be really good.

it sounds like they are doing that, and they have great veteran leadership and coaching to help them, if they have the heart.

Aren't all players 1st round talent but drop for various reasons..
I could be really good at my job if i really applied myself. But as long and stay committed and work hard i have a roster spot.


It seems like generic coaches speak we hear from all staff during the offseason.

[bgforever]

Aren't all players 1st round talent but drop for various reasons..
I could be really good at my job if i really applied myself. But as long and stay committed and work hard i have a roster spot.


It seems like generic coaches speak we hear from all staff during the offseason.

Which is why some fans want off season banned

[redwolf1218]

Aren't all players 1st round talent but drop for various reasons..
I could be really good at my job if i really applied myself. But as long and stay committed and work hard i have a roster spot.


It seems like generic coaches speak we hear from all staff during the offseason.

thats because you are a cowboys fan. and you should apply yourself at work. i am the best at what i do and everyone knows it.

[esmith1790]

Which is why some fans want off season banned

I agree.

I dont know if you frequent any other boards, but we all have the same lame articles by a no name reporter out at the cowboys facitlity talking about so and so is ready for a break out year, Also everyone is trying to take credit for the Romo surge. Trying to pull up old articles and interviews saying" Romo has a blah blah blah head on his shoulders and if he hangs around and shows blah blah he can stick on the roster and maybe some day have a chance." Hey look out for so and so, i was talking to other players and his name kept coming up. or the standard, i just knew player X would make it in the NFL, he stuck with it and kept working hard and putting time in after practice and studying film.

[colkurtz]

This is a feel-good article in a quiet off-season. I liked some of the conditioning / weight-lifting changes he has made and he is trying to get his head into the game to succeed. But I want to see how he does in the pre-season. He'll be in a rotation and if he turns out to be a decent player this will have been an excellent low end draft pick.

On the other hand, if he doesn't improve the team will use some draft picks toward DE or DT next year and he could face some real competition. The DL continues to be our weakest area and our defense is tied to Griffins health.

This is Montgomery's year to prove he can play at the NFL level. He's a player to watch in TC and the pre-season.

[MikeBass]

Aren't all players 1st round talent but drop for various reasons..
I could be really good at my job if i really applied myself. But as long and stay committed and work hard i have a roster spot.


It seems like generic coaches speak we hear from all staff during the offseason.

No way,never that and this is why we have 7 rounds in the draft and rookie free agent singings. You have your best, less than best and just about there. It's a process and is why we have cuts and roster limitations.

[esmith1790]

No way,never that and this is why we have 7 rounds in the draft and rookie free agent singings. You have your best, less than best and just about there. It's a process and is why we have cuts and roster limitations.


but arent all players some what lacking in an area. a CB is 6'1 205 but runs a 4.7 if he ran a 4.3 he would most likely be a 1st based of stats or workouts.

You can go on and on, if he was taller, heavier faster more fluid.

[firehawk157]

but arent all players some what lacking in an area. a CB is 6'1 205 but runs a 4.7 if he ran a 4.3 he would most likely be a 1st based of stats or workouts.

You can go on and on, if he was taller, heavier faster more fluid.
But there are better prospects and his slow 40 time dropped him. 1st round talent is relative anyways.

[James F. Quinn]

Haven't you heard, Saunder never calls the same play twice...in the same season. No one can crack his code.:)

Trent prolly still has the code key.