View Full Version : Supreme Court to review Gitmo "detainees" rights
dukeuch
06-29-2007, 11:44 AM
Gosh, I wonder which way they will rule? I'm on the edge of my seat...the back edge.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/06/29/scotus.gitmo.appeals.ap/index.html
WarEagle
06-29-2007, 07:11 PM
Most are better off in Gitmo than their countries of origin, where they would really do hard time or worse.
BurgundyNGold
06-30-2007, 02:09 AM
Most are better off in Gitmo than their countries of origin, where they would really do hard time or worse.
I highly doubt that. If they were in their home countries, they'd be free to terroize the locals or shoot at our troops. I'm sure they'd much prefer to be doing that that to try and swallow their tongues in a lame suicde attempt designed to draw attention to their plight.
dukeuch
06-30-2007, 06:38 AM
I highly doubt that. If they were in their home countries, they'd be free to terroize the locals or shoot at our troops. I'm sure they'd much prefer to be doing that that to try and swallow their tongues in a lame suicde attempt designed to draw attention to their plight.
Or they could return to their former lives, grow poppies, whatever. I believe if there were proof of their being involved in terrorist activities, they would have been tried, at least in a military court.
Some of these people probably were involved, or at least sympathetic, to terrorism against the US. Others probably were not.
Agrawog
07-01-2007, 11:57 AM
This is just another example of the lack of thought and brain-power being applied to foreign policy by bush and his boys. They say the war is going to be long term and "different" from a traditional war yet they are fighting it like a normal war. their focus has been on military power and taking prisoners. The inconsistency reveals their true feelings about the war - they believe in using a hammer because they think all situations are nails.
This comment was telling:
An Army reserve officer and lawyer who played a key role in the enemy combatant hearings at Guantanamo Bay says tribunal members relied on vague and incomplete intelligence while being pressured to rule against detainees, often without any specific evidence. The officer's affidavit, submitted to the Supreme Court last Friday, is the first public criticism by a member of the military panels that determine whether detainees will continue to be held.
"I suspect that the disclosure about the corrupted CSRT proceedings and the very restrictive government view of what the detainees can do in the lower courts led the justices to conclude that they should take up these issues," said Washington attorney David Remes, who represents 18 detainees.
Once again they have botched the execution of a strategy flawed to begin with. They rounded up everybody they could and figured they would get great intelligence. Well either their techniques are not producing results or there are no results left to get. Maybe they have squeezed out everything they can and the remaining guys can provide nothing. So now what do you do? Do you hold them forever? If the war is going to take decades is that the only answer? Have you created another group of men whose hatred of the U.S. will be their only passion?
I realize these situations are complex and some issues can not be predicted but what is happening would seem to be something they thought of ahead of time no? This will be just one more mess left for the next president to solve. And that will likely be Bush's true legacy.
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