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RedSkinBrit
07-08-2007, 11:27 PM
Hey guys
Been a member of a keeper league for 3 years now and have just been offered a trade that has me puzzled ,so thought i get some opinions I currently have RBS of

Mcgahee
Thomas jones
S, Alexander
Chris Brown.

Qbs are
Pennington
Favre

A rival has offered me D ,Brees and D.Mcallister in exchange for Alexander, what to do?

BurgundyNGold
07-09-2007, 02:37 AM
Hey guys
Been a member of a keeper league for 3 years now and have just been offered a trade that has me puzzled ,so thought i get some opinions I currently have RBS of

Mcgahee
Thomas jones
S, Alexander
Chris Brown.

Qbs are
Pennington
Favre

A rival has offered me D ,Brees and D.Mcallister in exchange for Alexander, what to do?
How does your league score? My initial thoughts are that Brees will produce for several more years. McCallister might well be done. After his injury, he wasn't the same back and now he's splitting time with Bush and I think they drafted RB too. Alexander will not be the back he was in 2005 ever again. His OL is not the same w/o Hutchinson and Alexander will be 30 this year. Your QBs are moderately serviceable but w/o Alexander, your RBs are not that hot either. McGahee should get some carries in Baltimore, though. Based on your scoring, I might make that deal. Does the guy have another RB to offer or a WR/TE to throw in?

RedSkinBrit
07-09-2007, 02:55 AM
Thanks BurgundyNGold,scoring is;

Passing
Rule Apply To
1 point for every 25 Passing Yards ALL
2 points for every Two-Point Conversion Passing ALL
6 points for every Passing TD ALL
-2 points for every Interception ALL


Rushing/Fumble
Rule Apply To
1 point for every 10 Rushing Yards ALL
2 points for every Two-Point Conversion Rushing ALL
6 points for every Rushing TD ALL
-2 points for every Fumble Lost ALL


Receiving
Rule Apply To
1 point for every 10 Receiving Yards ALL
2 points for every Two-Point Conversion Receiving ALL
6 points for every Receiving TD ALL

The team that offered the trade has LT and Westbrook as other RB and i am not sure about wether he would offer Westbrook instead of Mcallister,but i will suggest it and see what the answer is.
I know what you are saying about Alexander, i just have this feeling he may come back with a big year but i would love to have Brees on board.

GolfFreak
07-09-2007, 07:25 AM
I think it sounds like a pretty good deal. You get a legit starting QB with a ton of weapons on his team and you still keep three starting RBs on your roster. I'm assuming you can only start 2 RBs per week? I think McGahee and Jones are going to be your weekly starters and use Duece on the bye weeks.

Good luck.

RedSkinBrit
07-09-2007, 07:38 AM
Yeah, when i first saw the trade, i thought not interested, but i am now leaning towards accepting the trade and hope the Saints of Brees and Deuce keep performing.The league starting roster is 2 rbs, 2 wrs 1 wr/rb flex.

GolfFreak
07-09-2007, 10:44 AM
Yeah, when i first saw the trade, i thought not interested, but i am now leaning towards accepting the trade and hope the Saints of Brees and Deuce keep performing.The league starting roster is 2 rbs, 2 wrs 1 wr/rb flex.


The flex position makes it interesting, because you could play three stud RBs. But Brees was pretty darn good last year and does have a load of weapons at his disposal. But if the Saints get shut down you'll have two players (QB and RB) that will be affected. I would take a look at the schedule and see who the two teams play (Saints and Seahawks). Pay particular attention to the teams in the last few weeks (FFL playoff games).

Skinz4lyfe
07-09-2007, 12:10 PM
Having Reggie Bush might be an asset to Duece because it will allow him to play longer with less wear on his body. Also, considering its a keeper league you might want to see if you can deal Alexander now before his production starts to diminish.

skinfanjon
07-09-2007, 06:07 PM
I'd take that deal in a heartbeat. SA will be used up in another two seasons and Duece should almost make up for his loss, plus you get one of the top 5 QB's for a team that really doesn't have a legit option there right now. Perhaps I am devaluing SA a little too much, but he is no longer trustworthy IMO. The best player in the deal is Brees...take it and run.

RedSkinBrit
07-09-2007, 06:15 PM
Thanks guys ,the deal is done and you all made some good points in helping me decide.:awesomewo

CarMike
07-09-2007, 06:28 PM
Hey everyone. I've decided to use this thread for the season long FFL advice thread on trades and waiver moves.

Thanks to RedskinBrit for starting this thread! :awesomewo

RedSkinBrit
07-10-2007, 05:37 AM
Now i have Brees,Favre ,Pennington another member of my keeper league needs a QB, and has offered a trade.
He wants Pennington and has offered Heath Miller (TE) in exchange.
I only have one TE(Eric Johnson),in my squad and the top 12 TE,s are already taken.
I would like a little more depth at TE, but not sure if i want to let go of Pennington.

skinfanjon
07-10-2007, 01:26 PM
Now i have Brees,Favre ,Pennington another member of my keeper league needs a QB, and has offered a trade.
He wants Pennington and has offered Heath Miller (TE) in exchange.
I only have one TE(Eric Johnson),in my squad and the top 12 TE,s are already taken.
I would like a little more depth at TE, but not sure if i want to let go of Pennington.

Why not? Pennigton sucks. See what else you can get from him, but I would pull the trigger if I can't get a better offer. Perhaps you could put Pennington on the trading block just to increase the pressure. If he really wants him, he'll up his offer. Even if he doesn't, since you don't have a TE that has been healthy in the last two seasons, I would take it. the Steelers are supposedly moving to a more pass oriented offense this year anyway.

redskin_rich
07-10-2007, 02:56 PM
You have to get more than just Miller for Pennington. Bottom line is a 2nd tier QB is worth more than a 2nd tier TE.

dj_stouty
07-10-2007, 03:16 PM
the Steelers are supposedly moving to a more pass oriented offense this year anyway.

I'll believe it when I see it.

Heath Miller could be an exceptional TE if he got the chance. But that team is built for the running game, and assuming things are all normal in Pittsburgh this season, Miller and Ward will continue to get very few looks.

Plus, Big Ben is more of a game manager w/ the benefit of a rushing game. I don't see him thriving in a pass-happy offfense.

RedSkinBrit
07-12-2007, 08:44 AM
Managed to get Randy McMichael in a trade for Pennington ,so it will help my TE situation a little.

Brit'Skin
07-12-2007, 12:55 PM
It's not a trade offer but someone in my league dropped Rivers for Quinn and I am toying with the idea of dropping Roethlisberger for him. My other QB is Leinart. Thoughts?

Skinz4lyfe
07-12-2007, 08:29 PM
Somebody dropped Phillip Rivers for Brady Quinn? I don't think that's such a smart move as Rivers had a solid year last year. Quinn isn't even the start in Cleveland. I'd probably consider dropping Rothlisberger for Rivers too.

DUCKIN_TACKLERS
07-12-2007, 10:36 PM
It's not a trade offer but someone in my league dropped Rivers for Quinn and I am toying with the idea of dropping Roethlisberger for him. My other QB is Leinart. Thoughts?

DONT THINK GET HIM NOW. He is way higher on my list then Roethlisberger who throw quite a few picks.

Brit'Skin
07-13-2007, 06:06 AM
Somebody dropped Phillip Rivers for Brady Quinn? I don't think that's such a smart move as Rivers had a solid year last year. Quinn isn't even the start in Cleveland. I'd probably consider dropping Rothlisberger for Rivers too.

I know, I can't believe someone would do that, especially after using something like a 6th or 7th round pick on him.

DONT THINK GET HIM NOW. He is way higher on my list then Roethlisberger who throw quite a few picks.

I do think Roethlisberger will have a better year though, but Rivers should do great with Norv. Instead of just dropping Roethlisberger I might drop one of my other reserves which are. Chris Brown, DeAngelo Williams, Kevin Curtis and Greg Olsen. Then I would have 3 starting QB's and could probably work a trade with someone later on.

skinfanjon
07-13-2007, 12:02 PM
I know, I can't believe someone would do that, especially after using something like a 6th or 7th round pick on him.



I do think Roethlisberger will have a better year though, but Rivers should do great with Norv. Instead of just dropping Roethlisberger I might drop one of my other reserves which are. Chris Brown, DeAngelo Williams, Kevin Curtis and Greg Olsen. Then I would have 3 starting QB's and could probably work a trade with someone later on.

I'd drop Brown, but definately get Rivers one way or another. I also expect Roth to rebound this season, but he still isn't as valuable as Rivers.

dj_stouty
07-13-2007, 12:53 PM
I usually look at passing attempts when comparing QBs. Gives you a good indication of how many opportunities they get during a game to rack up yardage.

But when doing so in this situation, I found out that Big Ben actually throws more passes a game than Phillip does. Very Surprising. You would think Ben, in the run first offense, would throw it minimally, but he still averages 31 tosses a game while Rivers averages around 28. Not a huge difference, but noteworthy.

The big difference between the two is that Rivers capitalizes on opportunities while Ben doesn't. They both have simlar yards per attempt, but Rivers throws a more accurate ball, and has the MUCH better TD to INT ratio.

Calculate in the playmakers: LT > FWP...Gates > Ward...and you can easily say Rivers is a better option over Ben. BIGTIME.

Brit'Skin
07-13-2007, 03:53 PM
It's done. I dropped Chris Brown to get Rivers so I now have 3 QB's and I still have LT, Jones-Drew and DeAngelo Williams at RB. Thanks for the advice guys.

Skinz4lyfe
07-15-2007, 01:17 PM
It's done. I dropped Chris Brown to get Rivers so I now have 3 QB's and I still have LT, Jones-Drew and DeAngelo Williams at RB. Thanks for the advice guys.

Who's your other TE? I probably would have dropped Olsen if you have another TE because its possible that Chris Brown could start in Tennessee given that pitiful RB situation there. Plus most TEs are a dime a dozen w/the obvious exceptions being Gonzales and Gates. There are many other solid TEs (Shockey, KWII, Heap, Cooley, Whitten, and Crumpler) but the upside to Chris Brown is greater than that of a TE.

skinfanjon
07-15-2007, 03:39 PM
Who's your other TE? I probably would have dropped Olsen if you have another TE because its possible that Chris Brown could start in Tennessee given that pitiful RB situation there. Plus most TEs are a dime a dozen w/the obvious exceptions being Gonzales and Gates. There are many other solid TEs (Shockey, KWII, Heap, Cooley, Whitten, and Crumpler) but the upside to Chris Brown is greater than that of a TE.

I think he held on to Olsen because its a keeper league. In a non keeper I would totally agree with you, but there is a decent possibility that Olsen can become a top tier fantasy TE in the next couple seasons. He's got nice speed, hands, and was drafted into a very good situation for him. As for Brown, he clearly has more upside for this season, but I can't imagine he'll be a starting back a year from now.

SAKFurby
07-19-2007, 01:31 PM
I have a keeper league, and need to hold onto one of these 2 guys either ronnie brown, or cedric benson. Im leaning toward benson due to his line being better, but they have to qb to help the run. From what ive read about the dolphins line is that its pieced together. Any advice would be great.

dj_stouty
07-19-2007, 01:39 PM
I have a keeper league, and need to hold onto one of these 2 guys either ronnie brown, or cedric benson. Im leaning toward benson due to his line being better, but they have to qb to help the run. From what ive read about the dolphins line is that its pieced together. Any advice would be great.

This is a tough one. Both are high draft picks who need to have a big year to live up to their billing. As of right now...many mocks have Brown going in the early 2nd round, while Cedric is going in the early 3rd round.

Ronnie Brown didn't live up to the hype last year, but hopefully a change in QB will help the running game. Benson is a big questionmark...as its hard to tell if he will be able to pick up right where TJ left off. Someone has to carry the ball 300 times in the Bear's offense, so assuming he is healthy, those carries will go to CedBen.

Man...this one is really tough. If I had to make a choice right now, I'd lean towards Ronnie Brown. At least you know he is familiar with the system and his teamates. Cedric is a bit late to the show, and there are more questionmarks surrounding him.

SAKFurby
07-19-2007, 02:06 PM
This is a tough one. Both are high draft picks who need to have a big year to live up to their billing. As of right now...many mocks have Brown going in the early 2nd round, while Cedric is going in the early 3rd round.

Ronnie Brown didn't live up to the hype last year, but hopefully a change in QB will help the running game. Benson is a big questionmark...as its hard to tell if he will be able to pick up right where TJ left off. Someone has to carry the ball 300 times in the Bear's offense, so assuming he is healthy, those carries will go to CedBen.

Man...this one is really tough. If I had to make a choice right now, I'd lean towards Ronnie Brown. At least you know he is familiar with the system and his teamates. Cedric is a bit late to the show, and there are more questionmarks surrounding him.

It is a tough one, brown was hurt last year, and is more of a team player, bensen did get hurt too but not as bad and had less carries. I dont the think bensens teamates really like him too much either. but full time rb's are hard to come by with more and more 2 back systems showing up. and due to trades on my league i dont have a 2nd or 3rd round pick so its ive got to make this spot on my roster count. But right now im holding onto LT, brady, and colston and i would like another rb cause im not going to get a chance at full time back unless i use my first round pick on one. But I also have Boldin to hang on to if i want to hang onto 2 wr instead of 2 rb's. But then RB's are harder to come by. Ive got about 2 weeks to decide and I have 3 spots taken just need to make my mind up on the last. Thanks

dj_stouty
07-19-2007, 02:53 PM
It is a tough one, brown was hurt last year, and is more of a team player, bensen did get hurt too but not as bad and had less carries. I dont the think bensens teamates really like him too much either. but full time rb's are hard to come by with more and more 2 back systems showing up. and due to trades on my league i dont have a 2nd or 3rd round pick so its ive got to make this spot on my roster count. But right now im holding onto LT, brady, and colston and i would like another rb cause im not going to get a chance at full time back unless i use my first round pick on one. But I also have Boldin to hang on to if i want to hang onto 2 wr instead of 2 rb's. But then RB's are harder to come by. Ive got about 2 weeks to decide and I have 3 spots taken just need to make my mind up on the last. Thanks

I'd consider holding Boldin over Colston...if that is an option. Boldin gets a lot of catches and he seems to be Leinhart's go-to guy. I am really high on Colston, but he isnt in Boldin's league just yet.

I agree about not holding both WRs. RBs are much more valuable than WRs... plus as you mentoined, RBs who are not in a RBBC are hard to come by, and Ronnie and Cedric are two guys who are projected to touch the ball many times next year.

Cedric's questionmarks are too great to hold him over Ronnie. Benson hasn't carried the ball more than 16 times in ANY regular season game the past two years. That is a concern. He did carry the ball 22 times in a post-season game once, but he only averaged 2.5 ypc in doing so.

Plus, despite the injury...Ronnie had (4) 100 yard games in his last 8 games...including the last two of the season. That is a sign of strength leading into '07.

SAKFurby
07-19-2007, 03:09 PM
I'd consider holding Boldin over Colston...if that is an option. Boldin gets a lot of catches and he seems to be Leinhart's go-to guy. I am really high on Colston, but he isnt in Boldin's league just yet.

I agree about not holding both WRs. RBs are much more valuable than WRs... plus as you mentoined, RBs who are not in a RBBC are hard to come by, and Ronnie and Cedric are two guys who are projected to touch the ball many times next year.

Cedric's questionmarks are too great to hold him over Ronnie. Benson hasn't carried the ball more than 16 times in ANY regular season game the past two years. That is a concern. He did carry the ball 22 times in a post-season game once, but he only averaged 2.5 ypc in doing so.

Plus, despite the injury...Ronnie had (4) 100 yard games in his last 8 games...including the last two of the season. That is a sign of strength leading into '07.

I think that I will go with Brown then, I think he is a better overall back than bensen, I just think that Bensen has a better line. I like colston, before he got hurt he was leading in wr fantasy points in my league, and now he is the #1 wr on the best offense of last year. Thats why Im holding onto him. I like Boldin, but fitzgerald was hurt for part of last year so that help his boldins stats. I do like Boldin, I just like Colston more. I think they are going to have about the same year, but with brees throwing to colston, and leinhart throwing to boldin. I like brees alot more. Thats how I came to that descion. Thats was another tough one though.

Brit'Skin
07-22-2007, 06:32 AM
I think he held on to Olsen because its a keeper league. In a non keeper I would totally agree with you, but there is a decent possibility that Olsen can become a top tier fantasy TE in the next couple seasons. He's got nice speed, hands, and was drafted into a very good situation for him. As for Brown, he clearly has more upside for this season, but I can't imagine he'll be a starting back a year from now.

My other TE is Vernon Davis, and no im not in a keeper league. I think your right about keeping Brown this year over Olsen and Brown is still available if I wanted to pick him up again.

Brit'Skin
07-25-2007, 05:34 PM
I don't get this league :confused: Someone just dropped Cooley for LenDale White.

So I swapped him for Olsen.

morty55
08-11-2007, 12:21 PM
Hey guys
Been a member of a keeper league for 3 years now and have just been offered a trade that has me puzzled ,so thought i get some opinions I currently have RBS of

Mcgahee
Thomas jones
S, Alexander
Chris Brown.

Qbs are
Pennington
Favre

A rival has offered me D ,Brees and D.Mcallister in exchange for Alexander, what to do?

the only thing I do not like about that trade..is in McAllister you are gaining a running back that is going to share carries..

with McGahee and T. Jones and Alexander you have three backs that will recieve the lion's share of carries..and are in offenses that are likely to use one guy..

I disagree that McAllister is not the same back he was before..the Saints are a different team..and watching the Saints last year they scored with ease..

I would take the trade..but try to grab Marshawn Lynch or Brandon Jackson Green Bay drafted this season..or Adrian Peterson who should all become feature backs themselves..and will be easy to keep if they pan out

that's an excellent trade IMHO

morty55
08-11-2007, 12:27 PM
It's not a trade offer but someone in my league dropped Rivers for Quinn and I am toying with the idea of dropping Roethlisberger for him. My other QB is Leinart. Thoughts?

Rivers made such strides in Marty's dysfunction..with Norv you know they will cut him loose when they see a mis-match...

I think Ben is the worst investment in a qb out there..they may be throwing more..but I can guarantee that his statistical distributions will transcend...with turnovers..and that division is tough

morty55
08-11-2007, 12:38 PM
I usually look at passing attempts when comparing QBs. Gives you a good indication of how many opportunities they get during a game to rack up yardage.

But when doing so in this situation, I found out that Big Ben actually throws more passes a game than Phillip does. Very Surprising. You would think Ben, in the run first offense, would throw it minimally, but he still averages 31 tosses a game while Rivers averages around 28. Not a huge difference, but noteworthy.

The big difference between the two is that Rivers capitalizes on opportunities while Ben doesn't. They both have simlar yards per attempt, but Rivers throws a more accurate ball, and has the MUCH better TD to INT ratio.

Calculate in the playmakers: LT > FWP...Gates > Ward...and you can easily say Rivers is a better option over Ben. BIGTIME.

that's what playing catch-up and garbage vs protecting leads does..Carr was statistically a good play much of last year with their late game garbage production..but you cannot go into a season taking a qb that might lose 10 games this season..like I see Pittsburgh doing

dj_stouty
08-17-2007, 02:10 PM
I need everyone's advice. (Well, everyone except Keino since he is in my league)

I'm in a 12-owner keeper league and I'm having problems deciding on who to keep at RB2. Its your typical high-performance scoring. (1 point for every 10 yards, 6 pts for TDs, bonus points for very long TDs...etc)

My choices are Cedric Benson from Chicago and Brandon Jacobs from the Giants.

I've been leaning towards Cedric for about a month now...but recently, Jacobs has been shooting up in the mock drafts I've seen. I'm guessing these folks believe he will eventually become a 25-carry back every game...and not be swept into a RBBC with Droughns. Cedric is the bonafide starter in Chicago, but he is injury prone and hasn't shown he can get the job done by himself yet.

Any advice for me?

redskin_rich
08-17-2007, 02:23 PM
I need everyone's advice. (Well, everyone except Keino since he is in my league)

I'm in a 12-owner keeper league and I'm having problems deciding on who to keep at RB2. Its your typical high-performance scoring. (1 point for every 10 yards, 6 pts for TDs, bonus points for very long TDs...etc)

My choices are Cedric Benson from Chicago and Brandon Jacobs from the Giants.

I've been leaning towards Cedric for about a month now...but recently, Jacobs has been shooting up in the mock drafts I've seen. I'm guessing these folks believe he will eventually become a 25-carry back every game...and not be swept into a RBBC with Droughns. Cedric is the bonafide starter in Chicago, but he is injury prone and hasn't shown he can get the job done by himself yet.

Any advice for me?

I would lean towards Benson but really you could flip a coin. It's that close.

dj_stouty
08-17-2007, 02:30 PM
I would lean towards Benson but really you could flip a coin. It's that close.

Very close. In fact, in 52 mock drafts over at Antsports, Benson is typically the 19th RB taken and Jacobs is the 20th. (Which puts them both at high 3rd round)

Both are risk/reward guys...and I'd hate to chose the wrong guy and have to sit back and watch the other flourish. I'm leaning towards Benson as well...simply b/c he doesn't have Droughns looking over his shoulder like Jacobs does.

However, Jacobs could become the next Marion Barber and be a TD king.

:whoknows:

Decisions...Decisions...

redskin_rich
08-17-2007, 02:32 PM
Very close. In fact, in 52 mock drafts over at Antsports, Benson is typically the 19th RB taken and Jacobs is the 20th. (Which puts them both at high 3rd round)

Both are risk/reward guys...and I'd hate to chose the wrong guy and have to sit back and watch the other flourish. I'm leaning towards Benson as well...simply b/c he doesn't have Droughns looking over his shoulder like Jacobs does.

However, Jacobs could become the next Marion Barber and be a TD king.

:whoknows:

Decisions...Decisions...Where are you drafting and what other options might there be?

dj_stouty
08-17-2007, 02:35 PM
Where are you drafting and what other options might there be?

Well, I have to pick one of these guys to be my RB2. (To go along with my QB1, RB1, WR1 and PK)

After that...I have the 11th and 12th picks in the first round of the draft. So I'll have to let some of the creme go before I get my back-to-back picks. Since Keino is probably reading this, I'll probably draft two more QBs with those picks. ;)

redskin_rich
08-17-2007, 02:38 PM
Well, I have to pick one of these guys to be my RB2. (To go along with my QB1, RB1, WR1 and PK)

After that...I have the 11th and 12th picks in the first round of the draft. So I'll have to let some of the creme go before I get my back-to-back picks. Since Keino is probably reading this, I'll probably draft two more QBs with those picks. ;)
Just take Benson and blame me later.

dj_stouty
08-17-2007, 02:40 PM
Just take Benson and blame me later.

I could live with that. :D

Keino
08-17-2007, 03:25 PM
Well, I have to pick one of these guys to be my RB2. (To go along with my QB1, RB1, WR1 and PK)

After that...I have the 11th and 12th picks in the first round of the draft. So I'll have to let some of the creme go before I get my back-to-back picks. Since Keino is probably reading this, I'll probably draft two more QBs with those picks. ;)

Please. I know you aren't drafting QBs with those picks, but I can tell you that Jacobs nor Benson will make it back to you since I pick 9th or 10th.

Honestly, you have to go gut feeling on this one. Both backs are in a Run first Offense and both backs have issues at QB and issues surrounding whether they can be effective/keep the job. Benson has less competition true, but don't think for a second that Lovie won't plug Adrian Peterson if Benson is ineffective.

Since LT is your other back and you just traded Portis for Carson, I don't think you can make a wrong decision here. I'd probably go with Jacobs, because you know at the very least, even in RBBC he will get the goaline carries.

tbfoster1
08-28-2007, 07:19 AM
For the seasoned FF players, What is the best website for player rankings.

Also, I've got the 10th pick in a ten man league, who do you think may fall to me at 10 and 11

edit: I just saw the title had "trade" advice in it. I thought it was for advice in general. I'll keep my post here just in case and I'll delete if need be.

HAWGZHEAD
08-29-2007, 10:08 PM
Anyone other Holt owners concerned about his knee besides me? I am trying to think of a receiver of somewhat equal potential that I could entice them to let go of straight up, maybe a guy like Wayne.

Skinz4lyfe
08-30-2007, 12:04 AM
For the seasoned FF players, What is the best website for player rankings.

Also, I've got the 10th pick in a ten man league, who do you think may fall to me at 10 and 11

edit: I just saw the title had "trade" advice in it. I thought it was for advice in general. I'll keep my post here just in case and I'll delete if need be.

You should be in prime position to pick up a couple of good RBs. Out of the running backs I'd say Rudi Johnson, Willis McGahee, Travis Henry, or Reggie Bush might be there. Also I might even consider Portis in that spot because it looks like he'll be ready for the regular season. Or you could gamble and take Peyton there. You know he's solid and w/Peyton the only thing you'd have to worry about is a bye week replacement because he never misses a game (meaning you could go a long way before picking another QB).

tbfoster1
09-03-2007, 08:12 AM
I know its too early to tell but who should I keep my eye on for that valuable free agent who comes out of nowhere

Two years ago I was able to snatch Willie Parker and last year I was able to snatch Colston.

DUCKIN_TACKLERS
09-03-2007, 08:24 AM
I know its too early to tell but who should I keep my eye on for that valuable free agent who comes out of nowhere

Two years ago I was able to snatch Willie Parker and last year I was able to snatch Colston.

My guess is Brian Leonard/Devin Hester/Bryant Johnson if any of the starter above them go down they could have really good years. Leonard may have a good year regardless he is a great pass catcher and seems to pick up blitz's well so he may get some touches to relieve S. Jackson. Hester is gonna have 10 to 15 plays drawn up to use him so he should have 5 touches a game in theory which could mean big numbers with his skill.

IHATEDALLAS'82'87'91
09-11-2007, 08:30 PM
OK, on my team, i have TO (That was so hard for me to draft) and my #2 WR is up in the air. I started Deion Branch and he had a whopping 0 catches, and i had Devery Henderson, who got 5 fantasy points.

So i was wonder who i should have as my number 2?

Potential FA pick-ups:

Randle El
Wes Welker
Arnaz Battle
Derrick Mason
Amani Toomer
Kevin Curtis


Its a point per reception league also.

HAWGZHEAD
09-11-2007, 08:37 PM
I would keep an eye on El and Battle but I would stick with what you have and pay attnetion to the match-ups for now.

Just a btw, I think this could be in the FF advice sticky thread at the top of the page.

IHATEDALLAS'82'87'91
09-11-2007, 08:41 PM
I would keep an eye on El and Battle but I would stick with what you have and pay attnetion to the match-ups for now.

Just a btw, I think this could be in the FF advice sticky thread at the top of the page.

Oh, sorry. I didn't even know there was a FF advice thread. Sorry.

HAWGZHEAD
09-11-2007, 09:04 PM
Oh, sorry. I didn't even know there was a FF advice thread. Sorry.Those things sit dormant up there in the sticky so long I forget they are up there too.

DUCKIN_TACKLERS
09-12-2007, 09:09 AM
OK, on my team, i have TO (That was so hard for me to draft) and my #2 WR is up in the air. I started Deion Branch and he had a whopping 0 catches, and i had Devery Henderson, who got 5 fantasy points.

So i was wonder who i should have as my number 2?

Potential FA pick-ups:

Randle El
Wes Welker
Arnaz Battle
Derrick Mason
Amani Toomer
Kevin Curtis


Its a point per reception league also.

Welker, El and Curtis are all 3rd options but most weeks unless they continue to consistently produce you will probably have a hard time pulling the trigger on them over you starters although Devry and Branch did next to nothing, which I hope dosent continue cause I have Branch in a few leagues.

fent
09-12-2007, 09:36 AM
i was offered fitzgerald and young or schaub to give up driver and cutler this morning. hasselbeck is my starting QB and i also have Campbell on the roster on a trial basis. I'm goign to accept, just need some thoughts on which QB to take.

DUCKIN_TACKLERS
09-12-2007, 09:43 AM
i was offered fitzgerald and young or schaub to give up driver and cutler this morning. hasselbeck is my starting QB and i also have Campbell on the roster on a trial basis. I'm goign to accept, just need some thoughts on which QB to take.

I'd take young because he typically gets some designed rushing yards and TD's on the ground as well he throws a TD every now and again too. Check both the QB's bye weeks though and make sure they dont line up with Hasselbecks. Schaub would be my choice if it was for a year long starter for consistency, however VY is my choice in your case cause he has more upside potential on a week by week bases IMO. See if he is willing to do a counter offer for WR or RB depth instead if you can.

fent
09-12-2007, 09:47 AM
I'd take young because he typically gets some designed rushing yards and TD's on the ground as well he throws a TD every now and again too. Check both the QB's bye weeks though and make sure they dont line up with Hasselbecks. Schaub would be my choice if it was for a year long starter for consistency, however VY is my choice in your case cause he has more upside potential on a week by week bases IMO. See if he is willing to do a counter offer for WR or RB depth instead if you can.

unfortunately with a competitive 12 team league like we have, there's not much depth to speak of on any team. we all have the sleepers we like, but that's about it.

i just took Young. Hopefully he can put up some points against Oakland in week 8.

PGiddy18
09-12-2007, 09:55 AM
unfortunately with a competitive 12 team league like we have, there's not much depth to speak of on any team. we all have the sleepers we like, but that's about it.

i just took Young. Hopefully he can put up some points against Oakland in week 8.

ummm... hello! he's on the cover of Madden!!!

IHATEDALLAS'82'87'91
09-18-2007, 06:09 AM
Someone offered me this trade:

I get:

QB Jon Kitna
WR Anquan Boldin
RB Ronnie Brown
RB Lamont Jordan
RB Travis Henry

They get:

QB Tom Brady
WR Terrell Owens
RB Adrian Peterson


I'm leaning towards denying it, because i really don't get better at any position.

RedSkinBrit
09-18-2007, 06:31 AM
I would lean towards rejecting it as long as you have some reasonable Rb,s in your roster. Ronnie Brown is not going to light too many fires.

IHATEDALLAS'82'87'91
09-18-2007, 02:56 PM
Yea, i have Bush and Maroney

fent
09-18-2007, 03:58 PM
Yea, i have Bush and Maroney

you should be offended that he thought he could slip that one by you.

fent
09-19-2007, 11:17 AM
Question of the week...for a lot of teams i'm sure. Maurice Jones-Drew...worth shopping him or do I try and pawn him off?

Second question. Deuce McCallister...worth trying to buy low?

dj_stouty
09-19-2007, 11:28 AM
Question of the week...for a lot of teams i'm sure. Maurice Jones-Drew...worth shopping him or do I try and pawn him off?

Second question. Deuce McCallister...worth trying to buy low?

MJD's value is pretty low right now. I'm fairly certain you won't get the value in which you drafted him right now. I'd consider holding onto him for another week and see how he does.

All of those Saints players scare me right now. If they continue to get behind early, it won't benefit you to have the 2nd RB on that offense, as Brees will be forced to throw more passes.

I'd stand pat and see how things develop in week 3 on both players.

DUCKIN_TACKLERS
09-19-2007, 11:34 AM
Question of the week...for a lot of teams i'm sure. Maurice Jones-Drew...worth shopping him or do I try and pawn him off?

Second question. Deuce McCallister...worth trying to buy low?

Im starting to wonder if either of them are worth the trouble... I think the teams they are on have real problems right now and they arent running the ball much. The Jags and Saints appear to have D's that have slipped and have been playing alot of catchup which has ment passing alot more. These backs were already gonna get limited touches in a time share, However MJD is at least a threat to catch a few. Sean Payton looks content trying to find ways to get the ball to Reggie Bush regardless of how little he produces all the while ignoring Duece. I guess if it was me I'd monitor those teams for another 2 weeks and see if the coaches change philosophy otherwise neither will have much value down the stretch. Unless you can get him for a steal in the meantime.

fent
09-19-2007, 12:04 PM
ok...next question.

I have Hasselbeck, Young, Campbell. I'm about ready to end the Campbell experiment for the year because i don't think he'll consistently outperform the guys i have in front of him. Normally, I'd just drop him in favor of a WR or RB, but Delhomme is sitting on the wire. Adding to the intrigue is that my opponent this week has Leinart @ Baltimore or Romo @ Chicago as his choices, so Delhomme is a likely target of his as a one week filler. I know i'm going to make a bid on him, question is, in a league where we have 50 bid points for the season, how much do i spend on him?

dj_stouty
09-19-2007, 12:11 PM
ok...next question.

I have Hasselbeck, Young, Campbell. I'm about ready to end the Campbell experiment for the year because i don't think he'll consistently outperform the guys i have in front of him. Normally, I'd just drop him in favor of a WR or RB, but Delhomme is sitting on the wire. Adding to the intrigue is that my opponent this week has Leinart @ Baltimore or Romo @ Chicago as his choices, so Delhomme is a likely target of his as a one week filler. I know i'm going to make a bid on him, question is, in a league where we have 50 bid points for the season, how much do i spend on him?

Hmm...I'm not familiar with bid points for the waiver wire, but I'd definitely consider going after Delhomme. No matter how well they are doing on the field, you can count on him getting the ball to Steve Smith. Case in point; that 70+ yard TD pass to Smith in garbage time last weekend.

I wouldn't worry about your opponent going after Delhomme. If he was smart, he would still start Romo even against the Bear's defense. Romo is the #1 Qb in my league..and as they say; "Never Bench your Studs". Of course, your opponent may not be that smart.

fent
09-19-2007, 12:33 PM
Hmm...I'm not familiar with bid points for the waiver wire, but I'd definitely consider going after Delhomme. No matter how well they are doing on the field, you can count on him getting the ball to Steve Smith. Case in point; that 70+ yard TD pass to Smith in garbage time last weekend.

I wouldn't worry about your opponent going after Delhomme. If he was smart, he would still start Romo even against the Bear's defense. Romo is the #1 Qb in my league..and as they say; "Never Bench your Studs". Of course, your opponent may not be that smart.

i wouldn't toss Romo up as a stud in that equation, and neither does my opponent. He's got numbers right now, but he hasn't faced a defense of that caliber yet...throw in that it's in chicago on national TV and Romo has all the signs of coming down to earth, at least for this week. i can only hope that he decides to start Romo in that situation.

IHATEDALLAS'82'87'91
09-20-2007, 06:06 AM
Better start week 3: Wes Welker vs. Buffalo, or Deion Branch vs. Cinncinati?

Its a point per reception league.

RedSkinBrit
09-20-2007, 06:19 AM
Although Welker is going well i would take Branch against the very poor Bengals D.Branch could be this weeks braylon edwards;)

CNYSkinFan
09-27-2007, 08:53 AM
Ok I have Big Ben and Carson Palmer on my team in a pay league. Pit plays AZ this week while Cincy goes to NE.

Palmer has been playing lights out but big ben has not been bad. Normally I would start Palmer easily, but the matchup vs NE and the possibility of no Rudi to take the pressure off scares me. Of course no Rudi means more throws as well.

So who do i play Big Ben or Palmer?

dj_stouty
09-27-2007, 09:49 AM
Ok I have Big Ben and Carson Palmer on my team in a pay league. Pit plays AZ this week while Cincy goes to NE.

Palmer has been playing lights out but big ben has not been bad. Normally I would start Palmer easily, but the matchup vs NE and the possibility of no Rudi to take the pressure off scares me. Of course no Rudi means more throws as well.

So who do i play Big Ben or Palmer?

NBYS!

CNYSkinFan
09-27-2007, 10:13 AM
NBYS!
yeah I know I know...but that rule kept me playing Drew Brees in another league to a remarkable 0-3 record lol

dj_stouty
09-27-2007, 10:47 AM
yeah I know I know...but that rule kept me playing Drew Brees in another league to a remarkable 0-3 record lol

NE's defense does pretty well against FF QBs. In fact, over the last three games, QBs facing NE have received approx. 25% less FF points than the average NFL QB. (of course, those three QBs were Pennington, Rivers and Losman, so take that into consideration.

Right now, the 5 defenses that are hardest on FF QBs are:

1. Denver - QBs receive approx. 39% less FF points than average FF QBs.
2. KC - QBs receive approx. 36% less FF points than average FF QBs.
3. STL - QBs receive approx. 32% less FF points than average FF QBs.
4. JAX - QBs receive approx. 32% less FF points than average FF QBs.
5. TB - QBs receive approx. 28% less FF points than average FF QBs.

So technically: Romo, Delhomme, Manning and Rivers all have worse "matchups" than Palmer vs. NE.

On the flip side...the 5 defenses that are the softest on FF QBs are:

1. Browns- QBs receive approx. 55% more FF points than average FF QBs.
2. Giants- QBs receive approx. 47% more FF points than average FF QBs.
3. Lions- QBs receive approx. 39% more FF points than average FF QBs.
4. Bengals- QBs receive approx. 30% more FF points than average FF QBs.
5. Bills- QBs receive approx. 26% more FF points than average FF QBs.

That gives McNair/Boller, McNabb, Greise, Brady and Pennington the best matchups this week.

All that being said...
Arizona's defense has actually done well against their opposing QB, keeping him 13% less than the NFL Average. Considering Palmer is the better pure passer and is a lock to throw the ball 35+ times I'd go with him this week.

redskin_rich
09-27-2007, 11:00 AM
3 games worth of data is not enough to validate those percentages. One good/bad game can skew the numbers and I think you'll find that the case. Maybe after 5 games, you can trust the percentages.

Anyhow, just play Palmer, Dustin. He'll likely be airing it out and playing from a deficit. Big Ben won't be passing a lot this week, me thinks.

dj_stouty
09-27-2007, 11:22 AM
3 games worth of data is not enough to validate those percentages. One good/bad game can skew the numbers and I think you'll find that the case. Maybe after 5 games, you can trust the percentages.

I'm very well aware of that Rich, but its good to look at nonetheless.

hockeygoalie29
09-27-2007, 12:48 PM
Considering Palmer is the better pure passer and is a lock to throw the ball 35+ times I'd go with him this week.

Anyhow, just play Palmer, Dustin. He'll likely be airing it out and playing from a deficit. Big Ben won't be passing a lot this week, me thinks.

I agree, with as bad as Cincy's defense has been they will be playing from behind early against NE. Add to that the fact that Rudi is hurt and I see a lot of passes in the cards for Palmer.

Big Ben did have 4 TD's in the season opener against Cleveland but that's all he's done all year. In the last 2 games, he's thrown a total of 2 TD's and one INT. Plus, he won't put up big yardage numbers (160, 240, and 160 so far this year). He'll have some really good games when Pittsburgh needs to air it out against Cincy (twice), NE, and Denver, but you have to figure this week against Arizona they will be riding Willie Parker the entire game.

I'd say don't over think the match-up and go with Palmer.

CNYSkinFan
09-27-2007, 01:52 PM
Alright I am going with Palmer....afterall he is my starting QB in three leagues this year.

smoak
09-27-2007, 04:43 PM
I'm trying to get a guy to take Big Ben and one of my backup WRs (ARE, Bennett, Roddy White, and Joe Horn) for Reggie Wayne and Marc Bulger.

The only thing is with Duesce McAllister hurt, he wants a RB which we can't do.

We have Rudi Johnson, Edge, Brian Leonard, Lamont Jordan, and Cadillac, but I am not sure who to start out of that group? Anyone? Jordan is banged up, Leonard is making his first start as a rookie, Edge goes against the Siller (so I am probably ruling him out), Rudi goes against the Pats (even worse), and Caddy is @ the Panthers????

Thoughts?

redskin_rich
09-27-2007, 05:09 PM
I'm trying to get a guy to take Big Ben and one of my backup WRs (ARE, Bennett, Roddy White, and Joe Horn) for Reggie Wayne and Marc Bulger.

The only thing is with Duesce McAllister hurt, he wants a RB which we can't do.

We have Rudi Johnson, Edge, Brian Leonard, Lamont Jordan, and Cadillac, but I am not sure who to start out of that group? Anyone? Jordan is banged up, Leonard is making his first start as a rookie, Edge goes against the Siller (so I am probably ruling him out), Rudi goes against the Pats (even worse), and Caddy is @ the Panthers????

Thoughts?Rudi is out this week, so scratch him. I would play them by this order:
1. Edge
2. Jordan
3. Cadillac
4. Leonard

HAWGZHEAD
09-30-2007, 03:11 PM
Betts and Houshmanzadeh for B.Edwards and T. Jones. I would be getting Jones and Edwards.

JoeJacksonTaylor28
10-08-2007, 10:13 PM
Who would you rather have as a backup WR, Lee Evans or Donte Stallworth?

fent
10-16-2007, 04:27 PM
Who would you rather have as a backup WR, Lee Evans or Donte Stallworth?

i'd go with Stallworth without question...

speaking of stallworth, how do we feel about Stallworth/Bush for Fitzgerald/Jones-Drew?

Question marks on all of them, just need to get some feel for what people think.

redskin_rich
10-16-2007, 09:07 PM
i'd go with Stallworth without question...

speaking of stallworth, how do we feel about Stallworth/Bush for Fitzgerald/Jones-Drew?

Question marks on all of them, just need to get some feel for what people think.

I'd rather have Stallworth/Bush by a narrow margin. It's pretty much six of one, half-dozen of another though. A trade like that is only necessary if you have bye week issues.

skinfanjon
10-19-2007, 04:48 PM
Should I trade Mojo and Chambers for SJax and Harrison?

My team:
QB Peyton
RB Mojo
RB Edge
WR Chambers
WR Colston
FLEX LenDale White
TE Cooley
D/ST New England
Bench: Branch, Javon, McDonald, Selvin, Faulk, Heath Miller

My reasoning...I'm 3-3 and tied with five or six teams for 4th place. Only 4 teams make the playoffs (12 teamer). I may be able to limp in by playing the waiver wire and squeezing out wins, but if I want a chance to really make some noise, I need to shake things up and take some chances.

Pros: I really, really need a WR1 and I expect Harrison to come back and put up typical Marvin type numbers the rest of the season. Also, I love the potential Peyton to Harrison combo, love those double points (passing TD's are 6 pts). I have no idea what to expect from Jackson or Mojo, so I'd really be rolling the dice here. I think I can survive my matchups until jackson is off the bye, so as long as he comes back strong I could roll through the rest of the season.

Cons: I have no idea how good MoJo will be. Or Chambers for that matter, now that he's in San Diego. I had originally offered McDonald, but he balked and demanded Chambers. Am I giving up too much for a real WR1 and a lottery ticket?

Bottom line: Does this give me a better chance at winning the league? The kicker is how much I actually get out of Jackson. If he is productive upon returning, everything is gravy. If not, I probably just screwed myself. I'm not playing to just be competitive, I want to win. With the way my roster is currently constructed, I'm going to have to take a gamble to make it happen. Should I roll the dice on this one?