Jon Jansen out for season

[JasonCampbell]

...at least according to Chick Hernandez. I must say, we would be knee deep if we didn't get Pete Kendall. Hopefully Wade will be active next week and there won't be much of a drop off with him in there. Heyer seemed to do a very good job as well, so maybe he'll be competing with Wade for starting RT.

[firehawk157]

This may be it for Jansen all together... He can't stay healthy and he's not all that great to begin with...

[DoGood]

Damnit.

At least we finally have depth. Poor Jon has had a helluva 3 years.

[JasonCampbell]

This may be it for Jansen all together... He can't stay healthy and he's not all that great to begin with...

Brian Mitchell also alluded to that as well.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

This sucks if it's confirmed.

[RedskinRyan]

...at least according to Chick Hernandez. I must say, we would be knee deep if we didn't get Pete Kendall. Hopefully Wade will be active next week and there won't be much of a drop off with him in there. Heyer seemed to do a very good job as well, so maybe he'll be competing with Wade for starting RT.

was wade inactive for this game? i was shocked to see heyer get the start. and then, more shocked to see he played well.

[Biggie]

Brian Mitchell also alluded to that as well.

Considering that Jansen's on Comcast all the time, he could go the way of Ray Brown if he really is done.

[urobm]

What a bad break for a good player. It has been a rough few years for him. I hope he still has some left in the tank, but this might be it. If this is it for him, I have enjoyed the way he has manned that RT position so effectively since his arrival. Again, I hope he does make it back though.

[CarMike]

This may be it for Jansen all together... He can't stay healthy and he's not all that great to begin with...
HUH?

We'll have to agree to disagree 157.

I figured he was out for the year when he went down. That wasn't your typical reaction to a non serious injury.

Get well soon JJ. I'll miss him for sure this year.

[CarMike]

was wade inactive for this game? i was shocked to see heyer get the start. and then, more shocked to see he played well.

inactive with a shoulder injury.

[urobm]

This may be it for Jansen all together... He can't stay healthy and he's not all that great to begin with...

Granted he has had injuries, but his ankle being rolled on was simply a freak accident.

[shally]

This may be it for Jansen all together... He can't stay healthy and he's not all that great to begin with...

that was a freak injury.. nothing to do with age. he got rolled up on..

i wonder if they elevate lefotu or go looking for a vet to fill out the line ?

[shally]

This may be it for Jansen all together.

no reason for a cheap shot... but it might be end of a career.

[hogskins]

This may be it for Jansen all together... He can't stay healthy and he's not all that great to begin with...

Agreed. He wants to plop his butt in a booth anyway.

[hogskins]

This may be it for Jansen all together.

no reason for a cheap shot... but it might be end of a career.

I hate that any guy gets hurt, but I didn't see that as a cheap shot. We didn't run to the right successfully untill JJ was out of the game today. He's had a fine career, but I don't think that we lose a thing by putting Wade or even Heyer in at RT. Do you?

[Jon Jansen is money]

I don't know if we've seen the last of him. This season maybe, but I'll wager that he'll be back in the future.

[GibbsFan]

Originally Posted by firehawk157 View Post
This may be it for Jansen all together... He can't stay healthy and he's not all that great to begin with...
Agreed. He wants to plop his ass in a booth anyway.


Jansen may have dropped off since his achilles but he has been a warrior throughout his career. IMO he would already retired if he did not think we could win a SB at some point.

[RedskinRyan]

Jansen may have dropped off since his achilles but he has been a warrior throughout his career. IMO he would already retired if he did not think we could win a SB at some point.

why would he have retired already? he still has some years left in him.

and two serious injuries and people have talked as if he's never been on the field for us? that is a major insult to our longest tenured redskin. the man was a guarantee to be on the field up until that achilles injury. he started over 100 consecutive games, dating back even to his michigan days.

[gibbsisgod]

...at least according to Chick Hernandez. I must say, we would be knee deep if we didn't get Pete Kendall. Hopefully Wade will be active next week and there won't be much of a drop off with him in there. Heyer seemed to do a very good job as well, so maybe he'll be competing with Wade for starting RT.


for what it is worth we know heyer can play both tackle positions. Give him some more time with buges and he can really impress . He did have some help, but he still did a good job.

[Red Bear]

for what it is worth we know heyer can play both tackle positions. Give him some more time with buges and he can really impress . He did have some help, but he still did a good job.

his help was mainly chris cooley, which is why he wasnt a big part of the passing game today i believe...

[Minnesota Mike]

Losing a guy like Jon is a problem. This team has struggled with depth issues on the OL. Hopefully he'll be back at some point. Even if it isn't this season, having him around can only help the team.

[frankez99]

Dang....some of you guys make it seem like Jansen was some sort of a run-of-the-mill slug who loss doesn't mean anything.

They guy is a mainstay on our OL and is a leader.

Get well soon man....

[Jon Jansen is money]

Dang....some of you guys make it seem like Jansen was some sort of a run-of-the-mill slug who loss doesn't mean anything.

They guy is a mainstay on our OL and is a leader.

Get well soon man....

amen

[LATrueRedskin]

He was definately emotional as he was carted off.

[Slobberknocker]

Stephon Heyer is money.



Get well, Jon.

[MikeBass]

Sad news, like firehawk I think that we have seen the last of Jansen as a starter

[firehawk157]

Oh yeah, I don't want to say he hasn't been good or I haven't appreciated what he's done for the Skins, he was a warrior throughout his tenor here, but he has been pretty poor this season for whatever reason and including his salary jump next year, it may be time to move on...

[Charlz]

This may be it for Jansen all together... He can't stay healthy and he's not all that great to begin with...

Last year JJ was part of an O-line that allowed the 3rd-fewest sacks in the NFL.

Question is, who got beat or didn't pick up the guy who got to JC?

[Biggie]

amen

I second that. I'd definitely rather have him in there than a lot of others, and he's been on this team as long as anyone.

[youngestson]

Losing Jansen hurts but what O-line deepth we have seems to be at tackle.


It's a shame for him to go out in the first game of the year like that. He, as Gibbs loves to say, "works his guts out."

[youngestson]

He was definately emotional as he was carted off.

Having seen some guy dislocate some items of anatomy, they all get emotional as the experience seems to be about as painful as it can get. Not something I want to try.

[RicFlairOne]

[quote=firehawk157;1002587]This may be it for Jansen all together.

no reason for a cheap shot... but it might be end of a career.

I'd say that this is probably it for him too. Heyer and others will now be forced to step up!!

[lorimike]

Brian Mitchell also alluded to that as well.
<<<

Jansen's a good player. It stinks to lose him but I thought Stephon Heyer played really well. Going into next week I give Heyer the start over Wade

[American Soldier]

Guys, I must say that going through two-a-days, mini-camps, bonding with my teammates and all the blood and sweat you put in to play the game of football, getting injured so soon in the season is beyond words. I'm not particularly fond of Jansen's play lately, but I have to admit, I almost cried when I saw his injury. Whether he's missed on the field via performance or not, I am truly heartbroken that he has to go through this.

[shally]

Having seen some guy dislocate some items of anatomy, they all get emotional as the experience seems to be about as painful as it can get. Not something I want to try.

it is very rare to have a pure dislocation without some kind of fracture-- at least inthe ankle.. and that is because of the anatomy. it does happen rarely and if it did jansen might be back this year. but if he fractured anything, he will be gone for the year

[quote=shally;1002636]

I'd say that this is probably it for him too. Heyer and others will now be forced to step up!!

if both wade and heyer show they can man the position they are younger and cheaper than JJ... it might cause the team to figure that they cannot afford to retain him with 3 straight injury shortened years...that will be for the off season

[shally]

<<<

Jansen's a good player. It stinks to lose him but I thought Stephon Heyer played really well. Going into next week I give Heyer the start over Wade

really. i know that wade has a lot more experience and right tackle is his natural position.. but.. how do you sit heyer after that performance ??

[JasonCampbell]

really. i know that wade has a lot more experience and right tackle is his natural position.. but.. how do you sit heyer after that performance ??

How much help was he getting from Cooley and Yoder. The fact Cooley's name wasn't mentioned until an overtime reception makes me think he was helping out a lot. I don't think Wade will need as much help as Heyer.

If Cooley wasn't helping Heyer much, then I'd say give Heyer the start until his play shows he doesn't deserve it.

[shally]

How much help was he getting from Cooley and Yoder. The fact Cooley's name wasn't mentioned until an overtime reception makes me think he was helping out a lot. I don't think Wade will need as much help as Heyer.

If Cooley wasn't helping Heyer much, then I'd say give Heyer the start until his play shows he doesn't deserve it.

cooley WAS blocking a lot.. but he usually had joey porter.. just too much speed for heyer.. and porter had too much speed for cooley most of the time as well.

when wade started last year, they gave him a lot of help with the tight end also..

but you are correct that they need cooley out inthe patterns since lloyd looks to be making limited contributions this year..

[Skins57]

HUH?

We'll have to agree to disagree 157.

I figured he was out for the year when he went down. That wasn't your typical reaction to a non serious injury.

Get well soon JJ. I'll miss him for sure this year.

I agree with you Mike, crazy to say Jon is not that good anymore. He may not be the elite he once was but he brings a leadership that we will sorely miss. Jon will be back and play again for us, unless it becomes a cap issue. Get well Big Jon and hope to see you again next year.

[shally]

I agree with you Mike, crazy to say Jon is not that good anymore. He may not be the elite he once was but he brings a leadership that we will sorely miss. Jon will be back and play again for us, unless it becomes a cap issue. Get well Big Jon and hope to see you again next year.

if both heyer and wade play well the rest of the year, it may well be a cap issue and jon may have to take a cut to stay with the team (the way brunell did).
i dont recall how long both heyer and wade's contracts are, but i would suspect that wade's is 1 year and probably heyer's as well..

[Patrick]

it is very rare to have a pure dislocation without some kind of fracture-- at least inthe ankle.. and that is because of the anatomy. it does happen rarely and if it did jansen might be back this year. but if he fractured anything, he will be gone for the year

[QUOTE=RicFlairOne;1002718]

if both wade and heyer show they can man the position they are younger and cheaper than JJ... it might cause the team to figure that they cannot afford to retain him with 3 straight injury shortened years...that will be for the off season

But see we have TOO many professionasl on the site that pretty much have Jansen gone for his career ............... sorry too many beers and too many idiots on this thread. ............ going to bed

[Skins57]

The subs might have played well today but I fully expect future opp. to load up on them and see if they are able to handle it. Give teams more time to gameplan on the new guys and then we will know, you guys know as well asI do that they will be tested and tested hard

[youngestson]

[QUOTE=shally;1002758]it is very rare to have a pure dislocation without some kind of fracture-- at least inthe ankle.. and that is because of the anatomy. it does happen rarely and if it did jansen might be back this year. but if he fractured anything, he will be gone for the year


Most likely he will also have an avulsion fracture which will require arthroscopy, but the seperation of the joint has been described to me as "proof of god's vengeful nature" and "enough to make me beg for my mother" which came from a 31 year old man who had been playing rugby most of his life and was not a stranger to pain. Add to the that the almost inevetable vomiting and....well I'm glad it was not me.

[skinsfaninva]

i dont recall how long both heyer and wade's contracts are, but i would suspect that wade's is 1 year and probably heyer's as well..

I am almost certain that Wade signed a 2 year deal while I suspect Heyer signed at least a 2 year deal if not 3. The front office usually doesn't give any kind of rookie just a one year deal.

[shally]

[QUOTE=shally;1002758]it is very rare to have a pure dislocation without some kind of fracture-- at least inthe ankle.. and that is because of the anatomy. it does happen rarely and if it did jansen might be back this year. but if he fractured anything, he will be gone for the year


Most likely he will also have an avulsion fracture which will require arthroscopy, but the seperation of the joint has been described to me as "proof of god's vengeful nature" and "enough to make me beg for my mother" which came from a 31 year old man who had been playing rugby most of his life and was not a stranger to pain. Add to the that the almost inevetable vomiting and....well I'm glad it was not me.

some are unstable because the joint is widened. those require a screw to allow things to heal.. as you said, often a scope to clean out junk in the joint

[Lavar703]

Well this is just terrible for "the rock", one of my favorite players and a genuinely good guy. Get well soon Jon

[NCskinsfanatic]

Heyer did well but I think Wade couuld do better if his shoukder is healthy, he may just get his starting chance yet...

[smoak]

This is depressing news for me as I love Jansen. Sure his play has dropped a bit since the injury, but there are few that have played at his level as long as he has since the FA era.

I am not a Wade fan at all and maybe Heyer earned some PT today? The kid was ballin'.

[shally]

This is depressing news for me as I love Jansen. Sure his play has dropped a bit since the injury, but there are few that have played at his level as long as he has since the FA era.

I am not a Wade fan at all and maybe Heyer earned some PT today? The kid was ballin'.

i suspect that even if wade is well enough to play next week that heyer continues to start.. he looked good

[smoak]

i suspect that even if wade is well enough to play next week that heyer continues to start.. he looked good

Agreed, but can with live with the occasional rookie mistake?

[jaylen]

Heyer is getting it done. Like I've said all along the kid can play. My only worry is games like next week can he maintain his concetration in tough environments and not melt down into false start penalties and will his body hold up considering he's missed so much time his last season with the Terps he's not exactly played a full season recently and at this level he could run out of gas.

Man I felt real bad for Rock though, on the cart I could almost see him crying thinking damn not another season he loves the game and the Skins.

[RedSkinBrit]

Sorry to see JJ go down,time for Heyer/Wade to step up now.

[bigcmr]

That was ugly he was in pain. Looseing a big starter like him worries me. But Heyer did a great job. plues we have Wade. So Luckly we have deapth.

[AGibbsGirl]

This injury reminded me off Joe T, the Dolphins rolled off JJ and started screaming for the bench. The were jumping around and waving for the medics, this looked really bad in the stadium. Haven't read this morning about what the exact injury was, but I hate to see him gone for the year.

[rskinsfan10]

If you subscribe to the Post, one of their photographers actually got a pic of Jansen's ankle right as it is snapping.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

If you subscribe to the Post, one of their photographers actually got a pic of Jansen's ankle right as it is snapping.

No thanks..lol... :eek:

[Hr fan]

that was a freak injury.. nothing to do with age. he got rolled up on..

i wonder if they elevate lefotu or go looking for a vet to fill out the line ?

Lefotu knows the system and terminology.

[Hr fan]

his help was mainly chris cooley, which is why he wasnt a big part of the passing game today i believe...

Yep, Cooley helped - both Samuels and Heyer. He was on the side that Jason Taylor played.

JJ may be our 5th best lineman now but brings intangibles and a level of play that shows how good our starting line is. Hurry back, JJ. It's way too soon for broadcasting.

[hail2skins]

Oh yeah, I don't want to say he hasn't been good or I haven't appreciated what he's done for the Skins, he was a warrior throughout his tenor here, but he has been pretty poor this season for whatever reason and including his salary jump next year, it may be time to move on...One game and he's been poor; are you serious.

[fent]

Cooley was helping, but the main reason you didn't hear his name is because the defense locked him down in coverage. they look like they specifically gameplanned to take him away and they succeeded. Heyer looked like a rock back there today against both Porter and Taylor. he'll have rookie mistakes, but I say let the kid play. he's a natural RT and the experience he'll gain playing over there only benefits the team in the long run. and to be honest, i don't think we lose much over there if he plays over Wade.

[dj_stouty]

You knew it was bad when a few Dolphins players were waving their hands to the Redskins sidelines for the trainers.

I feel horrible for Jansen. Its one of those things that can happen to any lineman on any play. I can't even imagine the pain he was going through. Jansen is a tough guy...yet that didn't stop him from showing us just how excruciatingly painful that injury was. Kudos to him for pumping his fist to the crowd. Made me think he knew it was the last time he would leave the field as a player.

I don't see him recovering from this injury, so I wish him the best and send him my sincere thanks for being such a great Redskin all these years.

[morty55]

Oh yeah, I don't want to say he hasn't been good or I haven't appreciated what he's done for the Skins, he was a warrior throughout his tenor here, but he has been pretty poor this season for whatever reason and including his salary jump next year, it may be time to move on...

I don't see that at all..the preseason is the preseason..this is the same guy that played great with two broken thumbs..I wanted Gibbs to call a tackle eligible for him..when he amazed everyone by playing so well..

I just don't get it..how somebody watching Tv can make a blanket statement about a player during preseason..never have and never will..the preseason is a joke..

the SKins got 400 yards offense against the Dolphins yesterday..they would have gotten 400 yards with Jansen or Heyer playing the right side..

second guessing the coaches has become something too many people do without thinking about it first...they know who belongs where on the depth chart

[CNYSkinFan]

I agree with those of you who think Jansen is done. It is sad, he was the lonbgest tenured Redskin and a fan favorite. His play had diminished due to many injureies over the lastn three years and probably is nto going to be able to recover from this one.

I hope Wade is the short term replacement here and Heyer or another young guy is groomed ove rthe next two years to take over the role permanently.

[Moe]

Heyer is getting it done. Like I've said all along the kid can play. My only worry is games like next week can he maintain his concetration in tough environments and not melt down into false start penalties and will his body hold up considering he's missed so much time his last season with the Terps he's not exactly played a full season recently and at this level he could run out of gas.

I wonder if the coaches won't give Wade the nod simply considering they'll be facing a blitz happy Jim Johnson D that features a likely matchup against Kearse. Wade's experience might prove more valuable, however they should be able to run all over Philly (and especially at Kearse) so maybe Heyer's size will give him an advantage.
I'm terribly saddened to see Jansen go down but it is nice to be having a conversation about which depth guy is the best replacement.

[dj_stouty]

I wonder if the coaches won't give Wade the nod simply considering they'll be facing a blitz happy Jim Johnson D that features a likely matchup against Kearse. Wade's experience might prove more valuable, however they should be able to run all over Philly (and especially at Kearse) so maybe Heyer's size will give him an advantage.
I'm terribly saddened to see Jansen go down but it is nice to be having a conversation about which depth guy is the best replacement.

I saw Kearse hobble off the field during the Eagles game. Does anyone know if he returned or the severity of the injury?

[Hrabanmaur]

I grieve for Jansen.

But, I think the Redskins will be fine. His play on pass protection has never been stellar, and it looks like Heyer can provide the same type of play - solid run blocking and adequate pass blocking. His leadership and charisma will be missed, but perhaps that will leave room for other guys to find a leadership voice (like Rabach and Samuels).

[Slobberknocker]

Wade to start, according to Wade (JLC):

Wade says he is starting in Jansen's spot, and if so it's the right move. They gave the guy millions to sign here, and he was great in his one start at RT last year. He has ample experience and the people around here have raved about his pass blocking for quite some time. Heyer gets time to develop this way and can be a valuable swing tackle, but to expect him to start this early in the season, with a guy like Wade on the sidelines, would be a gamble few teams would make.

[skinfanjon]

Guys, I must say that going through two-a-days, mini-camps, bonding with my teammates and all the blood and sweat you put in to play the game of football, getting injured so soon in the season is beyond words. I'm not particularly fond of Jansen's play lately, but I have to admit, I almost cried when I saw his injury. Whether he's missed on the field via performance or not, I am truly heartbroken that he has to go through this.

I'm with you man. Jansen is as much of a core Redskin as anyone on this team and he has my complete respect. Its really sad to see his season end so quickly. I fear he may not be here next year, but we'll have to see how things go. He has not been the same player since rupturing his achilles, but even so he is a true warrior and we can certainly admire him for that.

All sentiment aside, I don't consider this a devestating injury to the team. It definitley hurts, but we apparently have two tackles now who can be counted on in game situations. Of course, I would feel better knowing 76 is out there, but we should be able to get through this without completely changing our offense.

Get better soon Jon, I hope to see you back next year.

[CarMike]

You knew it was bad when a few Dolphins players were waving their hands to the Redskins sidelines for the trainers.

I feel horrible for Jansen. Its one of those things that can happen to any lineman on any play. I can't even imagine the pain he was going through. Jansen is a tough guy...yet that didn't stop him from showing us just how excruciatingly painful that injury was. Kudos to him for pumping his fist to the crowd. Made me think he knew it was the last time he would leave the field as a player.

I don't see him recovering from this injury, so I wish him the best and send him my sincere thanks for being such a great Redskin all these years.

I knew it was really bad when one of the Redskin trainers laid cross ways on Big John while they popped his ankle back into place. I just got up and walked away. Couldn't imagine the pain he must have been in.

Jansen is one of my all time favorite players. He was yesturday before the game, and he will be if he never suits up again. It sickens me to see people put him down like they are in this thread. But I also understand that everyone has an opinion to...

[skinsfoeva]

this is sad, jansen is the man! if he doesnt come back to play i hope he'd at least couch line here

[Slobberknocker]

JLC on Jansen:

Jansen Speaks .. So Does Wade

Jon just did a conference call with us. It was pretty gruesome. He will have surgery this week, either Wed. or Thursday and will be out probably 4 months. Said he is unsure if he will be placed on IR right away, ending his season, but seemed to expect the move at some point.

Todd Wade says he is operating on the assumption he is starting indefinitely. Wade says that Coach Joe Gibbs and associate head coach Al Saunders both gave him "The Nod" - you know, that universal look and tilt of the head that means, get ready to strap it on and step up, son. We need 'ya.

Have to wait until Coach Joe talks around 5 pm to find out if Wade's reading of body language was correct, but he was fairly adamant about being the guy.

As for Jansen, until they perform the surgery the doctors will not know how extensive the ligament damage is, but there will be some. Jon said they reset the fracture on the field - holy schnikes I almost puked just hearing him describe it - and said "I could feel things popping, I could feel things breaking" at the time his leg got rolled.

Jon said he'll spend 6 weeks in a cast and on crutches and then will be able to put some weight on the fractured and dislocated right ankle in a walking boot. Ten to 12 weeks after surgery he should be running and "by end of three-to-four months there I should be able to resume any normal training."

The Redskins still have three healthy tackles so there is no rush per say to put Jansen on IR, and who knows, perhaps after surgery they see a reason to keep him active for a post-season. But Jansen was focusing on being back for next year, and was talking about this injury in the same terms as the 2004 ruptured left Achilles that kept him out of that entire season.

Since then Jansen has broken both thumbs and was finally forced out of the lineup once last season with a calf injury as well. He plans to be around the team more than he was while rehabbing in 2004.

[CarMike]

JLC on Jansen:

Jansen Speaks .. So Does Wade

Jon just did a conference call with us. It was pretty gruesome. He will have surgery this week, either Wed. or Thursday and will be out probably 4 months. Said he is unsure if he will be placed on IR right away, ending his season, but seemed to expect the move at some point.

Todd Wade says he is operating on the assumption he is starting indefinitely. Wade says that Coach Joe Gibbs and associate head coach Al Saunders both gave him "The Nod" - you know, that universal look and tilt of the head that means, get ready to strap it on and step up, son. We need 'ya.

Have to wait until Coach Joe talks around 5 pm to find out if Wade's reading of body language was correct, but he was fairly adamant about being the guy.

As for Jansen, until they perform the surgery the doctors will not know how extensive the ligament damage is, but there will be some. Jon said they reset the fracture on the field - holy schnikes I almost puked just hearing him describe it - and said "I could feel things popping, I could feel things breaking" at the time his leg got rolled.

Jon said he'll spend 6 weeks in a cast and on crutches and then will be able to put some weight on the fractured and dislocated right ankle in a walking boot. Ten to 12 weeks after surgery he should be running and "by end of three-to-four months there I should be able to resume any normal training."

The Redskins still have three healthy tackles so there is no rush per say to put Jansen on IR, and who knows, perhaps after surgery they see a reason to keep him active for a post-season. But Jansen was focusing on being back for next year, and was talking about this injury in the same terms as the 2004 ruptured left Achilles that kept him out of that entire season.

Since then Jansen has broken both thumbs and was finally forced out of the lineup once last season with a calf injury as well. He plans to be around the team more than he was while rehabbing in 2004.

Dang. No wonder one of the trainers had to lay on top of Jon. Gosh, I can't even imagine what that must have felt like.

[PyroGenic]

Dang. No wonder one of the trainers had to lay on top of Jon. Gosh, I can't even imagine what that must have felt like.

You could tell he was in tears when he gave the thumbs up. I felt so bad for him.

[Slobberknocker]

Dang. No wonder one of the trainers had to lay on top of Jon. Gosh, I can't even imagine what that must have felt like.

If you watch the locker room cam today at redskins.com, you'll mostly hear comments from members of the DLine: Kendall, Heyer and Rabach. They mention repeatedly that word on the field was "don't look." It was gruesome for the players in the trenches.

[skinsfan36]

very bad news,hopefully wade steps in and we dont miss a beat

[shally]

very bad news,hopefully wade steps in and we dont miss a beat

looks like wade and the front office both benefit from the off season decision. wade gets to start at tackle and the skins get a veteran replacement.
so sorry for jansen, but someone's loss is often another's opportunity

[HAWGZHEAD]

I am glad I wasn't in my seat to see this happen. A core Skin that will be missed for only this season hopefully.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

If you subscribe to the Post, one of their photographers actually got a pic of Jansen's ankle right as it is snapping.
i saw it and i was amazed that someone captured the pic at such a perfect time. the photographer had to have been using a multi shot function or something. im inclined to scan it for those who havent seen it. very disgusting stuff and you have to feel bad for jon who has played his heart out for us since day one. he has had some bad luck in the last few years but im just glad to know we have 2 guys who are good enough to fill in.

EDIT: i did indeed scan the pic and i will only post the link so that people can view the pic at their own discretion. Jansen injury pic (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v378/rachay/janseninjury.jpg)

[themightyjoegibbs]

Jansen has been with us since '99 I believe. I think he helped make our OLines one of the best in the league over the years. He has fought many battles for the burgundy/gold. At times I thought he was more dedicated to being in the state of Michigan as an alumni or go hunting/fishing and stuff. Maybe he could have been more private about his free time if you ask me. I want to hear he is working out and doing all Redskin/football things. But whatever.

After this year, does anyone think he can bounce back??? His talent and skill has tapered off over the years and being plagued with injuries (somehow kicking ass with 2 broken thumbs) I wouldn't look to the draft just yet but he and Samuels are seasoned vets. how long can we expect that WADE/HEYER could replace JJ. WADE is the same age as JJ too, so... I hope HEYER pans out for us.

[Patrick]

I have all the faith in the world that Jansen will be back better than every next season. Tough to lose him for the season but that is part of the game.

[CNYSkinFan]

The news is better now then it was before and hopefully he can recover. I still have my doubts.

Also I hate to be crass but this needs to be factored in as well. Jansen's cap figure for next year: $8.833 million, and almost 5.4 million dollar jump. Only 1.25 million of that is a roster bonus, the rest is salary increase of over 4 million.

I can't imagine the Redskins are goign to want to pay that if Jansen is not totally healthy> I think they may nudge him to retire and become a coach.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

The news is better now then it was before and hopefully he can recover. I still have my doubts.

Also I hate to be crass but this needs to be factored in as well. Jansen's cap figure for next year: $8.833 million, and almost 5.4 million dollar jump. Only 1.25 million of that is a roster bonus, the rest is salary increase of over 4 million.

I can't imagine the Redskins are goign to want to pay that if Jansen is not totally healthy> I think they may nudge him to retire and become a coach.
Or ask him to take a pay cut, and if he refuses, start him all of pre-season and the magically bench him for the home opener in favor of a much worse player. :rolleyes:

[CNYSkinFan]

Or ask him to take a pay cut, and if he refuses, start him all of pre-season and the magically bench him for the home opener in favor of a much worse player. :rolleyes:
and publicly say he has lost a step..........