hR Official Coach Gibbs Rating

[PennSkinsFan]

Same as our Weekly Approval Rating of QB Jason Campbell, have your weekly say on the job of Joe Gibbs.

[shally]

Same as our Weekly Approval Rating of QB Jason Campbell, have your weekly say on the job of Joe Gibbs.

i liked the explanation of why he went for the FG.. and i agree. close out a game when you have the chance

gave swishy a big seal of approval

[smoak]

Hands down approve. We played a tougher team than people thought and won a hard fought close game.

[Slobberknocker]

Kicking the field goal on 1st down took cajones. Glad to see the lessons of preseason aren't lost!

Oh -- and watching Cam Cameron make crucial blunders with time management while Gibbs was cool and unflappable? Priceless.

Maybe the game has passed Cameron by. ;P

[Slobberknocker]

The return of smashmouth football is not an accident. That's Joe Gibbs football, baby!

[NCskinsfanatic]

It's an approval from me as well, guts to take the FG from 40, nice balance on O, good time management.

[CarMike]

We won. Nothing else matters

Approve

[LATrueRedskin]

I approve. We didn't have any glaring management problems (although we could have done some things better), and our guys were prepared to face an underrated Miami defense. Good playcalling all around for the most part, and a good call in the end to kick the field goal to seal it. Nice job by Coach today.

[redskin_rich]

Disapprove.
When did Gibbs lose his balls and become Marty?

[SkinsfaninNJ]

Approve. During Gibbs II, one of the biggest complaints after loses is when we don't commit to the run. Today we did that in spades. It worked.

[InsomniaKiller]

I thought about clicking "disapprove" but right when I was about to, I heard his cute little laugh in my head!

APPROVE!!!

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Disapprove.
When did Gibbs lose his balls and become Marty?
Lukewarm.
For the most part I don't have any complaints, but I absolutely agree with you rich. Kicking a 40 yard FG on first down was an atrocious decision IMO. It's hypocritical to make fun of Marty and Herm Edwards for doing the exact same thing, then praising Gibbs just because he is Gibbs. We were running the ball extremely well against a tired defense, and could have gotten at least another 6-7 yards with 2 carries. A 40 yarder is no chip-shot, and if Suisham misses, we also give the Dolphins excellent field position.
Another thing I did not like at all was our second-last drive in regulation.

Other than that, I have no complaints.

[Hr fan]

Approve. Kicking the FG when inside 40 yds as he explained avoided how we lost 2 games by penalties that moved us out of FG range. If we had continued we might have improved the range; going for a TD was unnecessary and risky, so all that would have improved was the % of make, which was minimal and the team was tired, a bad condition for avoiding penalties. Also the use of SS as the nickle back. Springs is fragile and Miami's O has yet to gel. Why risk your best CB when he wasn't needed?

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Approve. Kicking the FG when inside 40 yds as he explained avoided how we lost 2 games by penalties that moved us out of FG range. If we had continued we might have improved the range; going for a TD was unnecessary and risky, so all that would have improved was the % of make, which was minimal and the team was tired, a bad condition for avoiding penalties. Also the use of SS as the nickle back. Springs is fragile and Miami's O has yet to gel. Why risk your best CB when he wasn't needed?
That is a ridiculous excuse, and the definition of coaching not to lose.

[Hr fan]

That is a ridiculous excuse, and the definition of coaching not to lose.

And if a tired Olineman had held and we missed the chance (it has hppened to this line before, and Heyer was playing out of position) we would blame him for not kicking it. As you observe the potential was for 6-7 yds. This would not have affected miss risk; it is generally measured from 30 to 40 yards. Suisham was dialed in, so why risk a fumble/penalty?

[SpicyMcHaggis]

And if a tired Olineman had held and we missed the chance (it has hppened to this line before, and Heyer was playing out of position) we would blame him for not kicking it. As you observe the potential was for 6-7 yds. This would not have affected miss risk; it is generally measured from 30 to 40 yards. Suisham was dialed in, so why risk a fumble/penalty?
Who is "we"? I wouldn't have.

[AGibbsGirl]

That is a ridiculous excuse, and the definition of coaching not to lose.

Then Gibbs must be ridiculous because this is the EXACT reason that he gave in his press conference for doing it.

BTW, I called it all the way, I told my husband that Gibbs would go for the FG with downs to spare, he's done it before and I knew he had the faith in Squeezum. Although I must admit...being stupid, I thought if we missed we would be able to finish our downs.... :o

ok stop laughing now....

[AGibbsGirl]

PS: I approve, of course, since we won

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Then Gibbs must be ridiculous because this is the EXACT reason that he gave in his press conference for doing it.

BTW, I called it all the way, I told my husband that Gibbs would go for the FG with downs to spare, he's done it before and I knew he had the faith in Squeezum. Although I must admit...being stupid, I thought if we missed we would be able to finish our downs.... :o

ok stop laughing now....
Like I said, it's a ridiculous reason. Call it whatever you wanna call it. You can't coach in constant fear that your players will committ a penalty. That makes no sense at all. Well, actually it does make sense, but only if you are willingly coaching not to lose.
When the same thing happened to Marty or Herm Edwards, I criticized them. And I wasn't the only one. I'm not gonna change my judgement just because Gibbs is involved.
And by the way, I don't really think that post-game press conferences are all that important.

[AGibbsGirl]

Like I said, it's a ridiculous reason. Call it whatever you wanna call it. You can't coach in constant fear that your players will committ a penalty. That makes no sense at all. Well, actually it does make sense, but only if you are willingly coaching not to lose.
When the same thing happened to Marty or Herm Edwards, I criticized them. And I wasn't the only one. I'm not gonna change my judgement just because Gibbs is involved.
And by the way, I don't really think that post-game press conferences are all that important.

Not attacking you pal, just letting you know that Gibbs was the one who said why he did it, more or less confirming what Hr fan was saying. You should never change your opinion and no one asked you to. But I must disagree, Gibbs has experience and his experience told him that the pros outweighed the cons in this instant. I agreed with him but it's ok if you don't!
Press conference don't mean anything, but they do help to know what the Coach was thinking!

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Not attacking you pal, just letting you know that Gibbs was the one who said why he did it, more or less confirming what Hr fan was saying. You should never change your opinion and no one asked you to. But I must disagree, Gibbs has experience and his experience told him that the pros outweighed the cons in this instant. I agreed with him but it's ok if you don't!
Press conference don't mean anything, but they do help to know what the Coach was thinking!
I know that it was Gibbs who said it. I never thought it was what Hr fan was saying.

[Patrick]

Approve .............. Did a good job with the game overall. I would like to see more scoring from the offense. I wonder if he was calling the plays (other than the fg) in OT.

[WisconsinRedskins]

I thought about clicking "disapprove" but right when I was about to, I heard his cute little laugh in my head!

APPROVE!!!
You're a heck of a poster. You really typed your guts out.

[skinfanjon]

Like I said, it's a ridiculous reason. Call it whatever you wanna call it. You can't coach in constant fear that your players will committ a penalty. That makes no sense at all. Well, actually it does make sense, but only if you are willingly coaching not to lose.
When the same thing happened to Marty or Herm Edwards, I criticized them. And I wasn't the only one. I'm not gonna change my judgement just because Gibbs is involved.
And by the way, I don't really think that post-game press conferences are all that important.

I'm still not sure what I think about kicking on 1st down....at the time I hated it, but after hearing his logic behind the decision, meh. I guess it makes at least a bit of sense. Its honestly the only thing I have to complain about for Gibbs today, so I still approve. I really love the commitment to the running game and that certainly comes from Gibbs.

[Hrabanmaur]

I approve for the most part.

I don't mind the decision to get the 40 yd field goal -- there were enough penalties in the game by the O-line, especially with Jansen taken out, to warrant concern. It was a decision to minimize risk. 40 yards isn't a chip shot, but it should be very do-able (and was).

On other hand, I don't understand the decision on the last offensive drive in regulation. After we ran it twice, I thought we were just burning the clock to take our chances with OT, but then we called the timeout so that we could pass. If you're going to go for it, put your balls on the table and throw the ball - move it downfield and manage the clock. Otherwise, run it and take all the time possible. It looked like we were trying to do both strategies.

[Slobberknocker]

On other hand, I don't understand the decision on the last offensive drive in regulation. After we ran it twice, I thought we were just burning the clock to take our chances with OT, but then we called the timeout so that we could pass. If you're going to go for it, put your balls on the table and throw the ball - move it downfield and manage the clock. Otherwise, run it and take all the time possible. It looked like we were trying to do both strategies.

I don't agree with that assessment. The carry on 1st down was solid, a gain of about 7 yards or so. It made sense to run it on second down as well (since we were on a roll, why stop?) but we got caught in the backfield and took a loss. That turned a short third down into a passing down.

The drive in overtime was identical, just a lot more consistently explosive on the ground.

[firehawk157]

I approved because a win is a win.

As far as the FG, I don't think it was playing not to lose, I think it was playing the odds to win. Suisham made a longer kick in this game, he has been looking REALLY good with straight and powerful kicksand the ball was centered on the field. I would have liked to see him run it closer, but there was no need to.

I really liked the "no-play" Yoder move, it should have worked as we didn't break the rules but for whatever reason, the officials called it.

[Spence]

Lukewarm

[garedskin]

Lukewarm.
For the most part I don't have any complaints, but I absolutely agree with you rich. Kicking a 40 yard FG on first down was an atrocious decision IMO. It's hypocritical to make fun of Marty and Herm Edwards for doing the exact same thing, then praising Gibbs just because he is Gibbs. We were running the ball extremely well against a tired defense, and could have gotten at least another 6-7 yards with 2 carries. A 40 yarder is no chip-shot, and if Suisham misses, we also give the Dolphins excellent field position.
Another thing I did not like at all was our second-last drive in regulation.

Other than that, I have no complaints.



I know Gibbs made the right decision.
I was just waiting for a flag to be thrown against us on that drive.So why take the chance of getting knocked out good field goal range?
I watched Suisham make a 58 yarder about an hour before the game started.I even said to a fins fan that was near by that I hoped it did not come down to making one of those kicks.
He was making everything during warm ups.
I knew that he was going to make it when he came on to the field.
I was sitting on the 49 yard line (lower level visitors side in the shade the entire game thank god) so I did not see how good of a kick he hit until I went up to the club level after the game.
That was one hell of a game.Worth every penny my son paid for those seats.
I am a little hoarse and exhausted man what an experience(first time to a skins home game) so much better than a road game that is for sure.:o:Peace:

[Hrabanmaur]

I don't agree with that assessment. The carry on 1st down was solid, a gain of about 7 yards or so. It made sense to run it on second down as well (since we were on a roll, why stop?) but we got caught in the backfield and took a loss. That turned a short third down into a passing down.

The drive in overtime was identical, just a lot more consistently explosive on the ground.

The drive in overtime occurred with 15 minutes on the clock, not 1 min. 55 secs. Are you saying we should be running the ball twice in a row on a two minute offense from our own 29 yard line while wasting 45 secs - all under the pretense that we are going for it? Yeah, we picked up 7 yards, too bad we would need another 9 in under 1min15sec just like that to get in kicking range. That makes no sense.

If you want to run it and burn the clock...fine. If we'd gotten a first down on the second run, then yes, take a timeout and go for it. But, we didn't. Bottom line - Gibbs and/or Saunders didn't trust Jason to truly run a 2 minute offense. The whole thing was wishy washy.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

I don't agree with that assessment. The carry on 1st down was solid, a gain of about 7 yards or so. It made sense to run it on second down as well (since we were on a roll, why stop?) but we got caught in the backfield and took a loss. That turned a short third down into a passing down.

The drive in overtime was identical, just a lot more consistently explosive on the ground.

The drive in overtime occurred with 15 minutes on the clock, not 1 min. 55 secs. Are you saying we should be running the ball twice in a row on a two minute offense from our own 29 yard line while wasting 45 secs - all under the pretense that we are going for it? Yeah, we picked up 7 yards, too bad we would need another 9 in under 1min15sec just like that to get in kicking range. That makes no sense.

If you want to run it and burn the clock...fine. If we'd gotten a first down on the second run, then yes, take a timeout and go for it. But, we didn't. Bottom line - Gibbs and/or Saunders didn't trust Jason to truly run a 2 minute offense. The whole thing was wishy washy.
You're right. If the intention is to get in FG range, it made no sense at all.

[swheeler]

Approve.

I predict that my votes in these polls will have a lot to do with whether or not we won.

[silverspring]

Disapprove.
When did Gibbs lose his balls and become Marty?

Agreed but it is hard to disapprove when we win.

You got to go for the throat. It is not just a question of "not having the balls", i also think it is crazy to say that a field goal is a given or a safe bet. Suisham has only made like 10 field goals in his career, a 40 yd field goal with the game resting on it is far from a given. I believe it would have been a safer bet to trust our 50 million dollar running back.
Now what also kills me is when we got the ball in the 4th with 1:55 left on the clock and ran it first and second down. You got to throw the ball down field and try to score. The lack of an attacking 2 minute drill has hurt this team for several years now.

[CNYSkinFan]

I approve of Head Coach Joe Gibbs....don't get me started on Team President Joe Gibbs

[Hr fan]

Like I said, it's a ridiculous reason. Call it whatever you wanna call it. You can't coach in constant fear that your players will committ a penalty. That makes no sense at all. Well, actually it does make sense, but only if you are willingly coaching not to lose.
When the same thing happened to Marty or Herm Edwards, I criticized them. And I wasn't the only one. I'm not gonna change my judgement just because Gibbs is involved.
And by the way, I don't really think that post-game press conferences are all that important.

Is there a functional difference in fearing penalties/fumbles and fearing missing a FG? You have to take the lesser risk, and JG gets paid to evaluate these risks and take the heat when it doesn't work.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Is there a functional difference in fearing penalties/fumbles and fearing missing a FG? You have to take the lesser risk, and JG gets paid to evaluate these risks and take the heat when it doesn't work.
In my opinion you should fear neither. You should have confidence in your players, especially your best ones (Portis and the O-line).
But hey, we won the game, so luckily it won't come back to haunt us either way.

[Hr fan]

In my opinion you should fear neither. You should have confidence in your players, especially your best ones (Portis and the O-line).
But hey, we won the game, so luckily it won't come back to haunt us either way.

Amen to that!

[Keino]

Im lukewarm, because I don't like the idea of not playing our best players and that falls on the shoulders of Head Coach Gibbs, regardless of Defensive Coordinator autonomy and it nearly cost us the game in week 1. Furthermore, the answers to why we aren't playing our best players insults my intelligence.

[Skinz4lyfe]

Im lukewarm, because I don't like the idea of not playing our best players and that falls on the shoulders of Head Coach Gibbs, regardless of Defensive Coordinator autonomy and it nearly cost us the game in week 1. Furthermore, the answers to why we aren't playing our best players insults my intelligence.


I agree w/you there. And also on kicking the 39-yd field goal on 1st down. Thank God Suisham made it but I hated that decision. I would have run the ball down their throats because they we sucking wind like crazy. I might have even taken a shot at the end zone off of playaction. But IMO, it was gutless to kick the field goal there. I heard Gibbs' reasoning for it but I do not agree w/it at all.

[Keino]

I don't really have an issue on the FG either way. It's always a Damned if you do damned if you don't type of thing, and really an NFL Kicker who misses a 40 yarder shouldn't be an NFL Kicker IMO. Sure, I would've kept running the ball, but I can't fault Gibbs for kicking it. We got the result we needed.

The Springs issue really irks me though, especially in light of how Smoot was abused pretty much all day.

[shally]

I approve for the most part.

I don't mind the decision to get the 40 yd field goal -- there were enough penalties in the game by the O-line, especially with Jansen taken out, to warrant concern. It was a decision to minimize risk. 40 yards isn't a chip shot, but it should be very do-able (and was).

On other hand, I don't understand the decision on the last offensive drive in regulation. After we ran it twice, I thought we were just burning the clock to take our chances with OT, but then we called the timeout so that we could pass. If you're going to go for it, put your balls on the table and throw the ball - move it downfield and manage the clock. Otherwise, run it and take all the time possible. It looked like we were trying to do both strategies.

I don't agree with that assessment. The carry on 1st down was solid, a gain of about 7 yards or so. It made sense to run it on second down as well (since we were on a roll, why stop?) but we got caught in the backfield and took a loss. That turned a short third down into a passing down.

The drive in overtime was identical, just a lot more consistently explosive on the ground.

The drive in overtime occurred with 15 minutes on the clock, not 1 min. 55 secs. Are you saying we should be running the ball twice in a row on a two minute offense from our own 29 yard line while wasting 45 secs - all under the pretense that we are going for it? Yeah, we picked up 7 yards, too bad we would need another 9 in under 1min15sec just like that to get in kicking range. That makes no sense.

If you want to run it and burn the clock...fine. If we'd gotten a first down on the second run, then yes, take a timeout and go for it. But, we didn't. Bottom line - Gibbs and/or Saunders didn't trust Jason to truly run a 2 minute offense. The whole thing was wishy washy.


clock management appears to be an issue for gibbs.. and has been the entire time he returned.

i dont know what the problem is, but we have one

[SpicyMcHaggis]

clock management appears to be an issue for gibbs.. and has been the entire time he returned.

i dont know what the problem is, but we have one
This is unfortunately true. I honestly can't remember an efficient 2 minute drill that was executed by our offense in these 3 years (except maybe the Dallas game with the two bombs to Moss at the end, but that is obviously a pretty unique situation).

[shally]

This is unfortunately true. I honestly can't remember an efficient 2 minute drill that was executed by our offense in these 3 years (except maybe the Dallas game with the two bombs to Moss at the end, but that is obviously a pretty unique situation).


plus, all those unnecessary time outs ? doesnt matter who the qb is, it is still happening too often (in preseason, but i still fear them)... hopefully we finally have that issue under control..

[jaylen]

Well with the game on the line and us getting the kick off we went straight down the field and got a fg to win, the 1st time I can rememeber where we made an efficient drive when we NEEDED to win the game since Gibbs has been back.

I think I'm gonna go Lukewarm because the whole fg situation is still a shaky decision for me.

And this bubbling Springs situation makes me uncomfortable.

So for week 1 I'll go Lukewarm. But encouraged .

[NFCEAST]

Approve, a win is a win. But in close games like this one was you find out alot about a team. Washington showed alot of heart and fight in this game. A reflection of the head coach.

[skinsfan36]

approve its a win and i liked the logic behind the field goal we all remember the chargers game doh!

[MikeBass]

In my opinion you should fear neither. You should have confidence in your players, especially your best ones (Portis and the O-line).
But hey, we won the game, so luckily it won't come back to haunt us either way.

He did have confidence in his player... Shuan Suisham...and this is what won us the game.

[Skins57]

We won. Nothing else matters

Approve

Agreed

[culpeper]

love the confidence he showed in suisham.

wish he showed the same in confidence in his smash mouth offense. maybe thats a little harsh, but i would really have like to see portis stick it in there one more time and then bring the FG unit out. i dont like that we 'settled' for a 39 yarder.

[James F. Quinn]

love the confidence he showed in suisham.

wish he showed the same in confidence in his smash mouth offense. maybe thats a little harsh, but i would really have like to see portis stick it in there one more time and then bring the FG unit out. i dont like that we 'settled' for a 39 yarder.

It's virtual heresy to question Joe Gibbs' judgment, but that looked as if he was coaching scared. More afraid of the possible outcome of calling a couple of running plays than of letting suisham kick a middling long FG.

Geeze, why don't we just punt after every kickoff. Something bad might happen if we run or pass, you know.

[openallnight]

This is unfortunately true. I honestly can't remember an efficient 2 minute drill that was executed by our offense in these 3 years (except maybe the Dallas game with the two bombs to Moss at the end, but that is obviously a pretty unique situation).

To tell you the truth I can't remember having a qb capable of running an efficient 2 min. drill since Joey T.

[Keino]

To tell you the truth I can't remember having a qb capable of running an efficient 2 min. drill since Joey T.

I seem to remember Doug doing it ok for us, but outside of that you are correct. Ryp simply didn't have to do it, we were so dominant his year.

[culpeper]

It's virtual heresy to question Joe Gibbs' judgment, but that looked as if he was coaching scared. More afraid of the possible outcome of calling a couple of running plays than of letting suisham kick a middling long FG.

Geeze, why don't we just punt after every kickoff. Something bad might happen if we run or pass, you know.

lol, exactly...

[Homer07]

I love Gibbs... but I'm a homer.

[joethefan]

I approve, but I still don't like the game playing they do with top players...
ie (Springs)

[828791Redskins]

clock management appears to be an issue for gibbs.. and has been the entire time he returned.

i dont know what the problem is, but we have one

Very true. I can't count how many times the team let's twelve seconds run off the clock and then calls a time out.

[Homer07]

kicking field goals is dum