milloy says skins tampered

[Monk81]

lawyer Milloy said today that the Skins made him an offer before he was released by the pats

I hope this isn't true I think we could lose draft picks for tampering

[ArkCowboy]

Report: Milloy claims Redskins made offer before Patriots cut him
September 6, 2003

Safety Lawyer Milloy, who signed with the Buffalo Bills this week, told SI.com that Washington made him an offer before he was released by the New England Patriots -- a claim the Redskins denied.

Milloy said his agent, Carl Poston, ``called some teams to see who would want me'' before he was cut Tuesday, and added: ``The Redskins gave us a bigger offer than the Patriots.''

That would be a violation of the NFL's tampering rules.

Redskins spokesman Karl Swanson on Saturday called the report ``absurd.''

``The first contact we had was from our owner to (New England owner) Bob Kraft once we heard Milloy was released,'' Swanson said. ``The next contact was the offer we filed.

``We heard about it on the (waiver) wire like everyone else.''

Calls from the AP to Poston's office in Houston on Saturday were not returned.

Milloy, a four-time Pro Bowl selection, signed a four-year contract with Buffalo worth $15 million, including a $5 million bonus and a $2 million salary for this season.

For salary cap reasons, the Patriots wanted Milloy to take a cut from $4.4 million to $2.5 million. When negotiations broke down, he was released.

Buffalo coach Gregg Williams said Milloy's status for Sunday will be a gametime decision.

On Thursday, Poston said there were 14 teams that showed interest and ''10 made viable offers. He didn't list Washington among the five teams when asked who were the finalists for Milloy's services.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Milloy's comments don't add up to tampering as he heard it from his agent, which is hearsay, and as Spence will tell you, hearsay is inadmissable in a court of law, or at least that's what they say on 'Law and Order.'

Spence, what say you?

[GhostRider68]

I cannot help but think there is something strange about this accusation. What does Milloy gain for this accusation? I normally don't subcribe to the "conspiracy theory" that some people do (not to the Skins/sports but the world in general) but it would appear that someone or something is slowly starting the drum beat against the Skins. Is it the p.o.'d Jets? Have they finally realized they needed the players they lost? Or are they still sore about the Morton thing? Or could it be that our win( I know it is only one) showed that Ole' Ball Coach learned something and is going to be a threat in the NFL. I mean he is brash and has the best one-liners since Bruce Willis in Die Hard. It does appear we are going to be receiving multiple draft picks for Champ. It could be nothing at all comes of it and that Milloy has had one to many helmet to helmet hits. But you have to admit with Champ/Jets the timimg does seemed odd. Hmmmmmmmm?!
Follow the money baby!:whoknows: :dalassuk: :jetsuk:

[kelly]

> http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2003/writers/peter_king/09/06/milloy.fallout/

[skinswin'emALL]

Milloy said Poston "called some teams to see who would want me'' before Tuesday morning, then added: "The Redskins gave us a bigger offer than the Patriots.''

This sounds like 2 different statements here. The 1st is about his agent trying to find out if other teams would be interested the 2nd is about the fact that ultimatley teh Skins offered more money. It the second statement WAS referring to offers made before his release, it would also be incriminating his own team.

Wonder why King would focus on what the Skins might have done wrong and not even mention the Bills (except to say "other" teams that might have been guilty?

could it be because he is a Giants/Jets fan??

[hail2skins]

Well, I wonder if these comments were taken out of context. It is Punk King after all.

[NamVet4]

Here we go again... All I had to do was check the by-line and I immediately knew what the real issue was! The 'Skins FO had gotten under the skin of Peter King, again! I don't take anything seriously in SI because of him. Check his track record. It appears as if the 'Skins are a boil on his a$$!
And the only way he gets any relief is to foster rumor and innuendo.
I'm not gonna waste anymore space describing this so-called sports guru.

Oh, by the way, to the editor-in-chief of SI... we have a very talented young writer here at hR.com.... Joe DaShmoe... fire King and hire him!

[truant]

they must have run out of rolled tacos for peter king and he decided to try to rip the skins again. What a joke.

[hamptonskinsfan]

What did Milloy have to gain by these accusations??? Is it because we didnt give him the "Right" proposal? As was stated earlier, the agent ( Remember this is Carl Ponson) admitted he contacted teams, then to turn around and say WE were tampering, Come on now. I am so sick of hearing this S#$t, really, these reporters are so ANTI REDSKIN it makes me sick to my stomach. Doesnt King have a dog show to cover, maybe he could relate more to the "BITCHES" seen there. BTW, I second what Namvet said about firing King and hiring JDS.
ENUFF SAID.

[SkinsKY]

I think we're above board on this one. I can't imagine The Danny wouldv'e jumped the gun on this one. He was right on the ball in FA but did nothing until it was legal. Say what you want about him...he plays within the rules.

[RedskinsDave]

Guys, get used to crap like this as long as Snyder owns the team. Writers hate the man and will twist anything to make him look bad.

[AGibbsGirl]

For a man that is consistantly under the microscope for his financial wheelings and dealings with players from other teams, I can't imagine that Snyder would authorize anything unlawful. Too many people in the "He said..." loop here.

[socaljetfan]

Does it matter if he was tampered with? I'm sure the investigator of this matter WILL BE a SKINS season ticket holder...... no harm no foul RIGHT? BIG MONEY didn't win a big time player this time... but no matter the SKINS will not have any problem with this....SNYDER HAS DEEP POCKETS...

[hail2skins]

Are you still sore at us?

[skinswin'emALL]

Originally posted by socaljetfan
Does it matter if he was tampered with? I'm sure the investigator of this matter WILL BE a SKINS season ticket holder...... no harm no foul RIGHT? BIG MONEY didn't win a big time player this time... but no matter the SKINS will not have any problem with this....SNYDER HAS DEEP POCKETS...

ALL NFL owners have deep pockets. Some choose to spend it on their team and some keep as much as they can for themselves.

I think they have the right to do whichever way they want -- it's their money.

[socaljetfan]

NO! not you or any skin fan, BUT any moron can see if the arbitraitor IS/WAS a skins ticket he should have been dismissed from the table. SEE what big money gives ya....

[Skins57]

Originally posted by socaljetfan
NO! not you or any skin fan, BUT any moron can see if the arbitraitor IS/WAS a skins ticket he should have been dismissed from the table. SEE what big money gives ya....

Isn't this old news????? games over, we won, quit yer bitchin about it. Someone need to let go of it, if the Jets would have matched it right it would noit have even gone to an arbitraitor. Plain and simple.

By the way, socaljetfan, welcome to hR, glad you could join us :D

[skinswin'emALL]

Originally posted by socaljetfan
NO! not you or any skin fan, BUT any moron can see if the arbitraitor IS/WAS a skins ticket he should have been dismissed from the table. SEE what big money gives ya....

The Jets have big money to..the owner just rather keep more to him self, no harm in that.

The Jets had the opportunity to reject the arbitrator and request a new one. They elected not to even though they knew he was a Skins ticket holder.

If I was a Jets fan I would point my anger towards my own FO and not the Snyder for just trying to make his team better. The Jets could have kept all there players if they wanted to. They chose to keep their money instead.

:smash:

[rskinsfan10]

Ahhhh, some things just will not and cannot change.

[hail2skins]

Originally posted by socaljetfan
NO! not you or any skin fan, BUT any moron can see if the arbitraitor IS/WAS a skins ticket he should have been dismissed from the table. SEE what big money gives ya....

C'mon now. The Jets had a chance to change arbitrators and elected not to do it. So, whose big money made that decision and who is the moron? As mentioned above, the game has been played and we won. Let's move on now.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Lawyer Milloy has absolved the Redskins himself. Here is the quote and the link (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A39818-2003Sep7.html) to the article.


Yesterday, however, Milloy denied the report. "I wasn't contacted by any other team before the Patriots cut me," he said.

End of story.

[skinswin'emALL]

As we thought, Peter King took his quotes out of context to make a story.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Originally posted by socaljetfan
NO! not you or any skin fan, BUT any moron can see if the arbitraitor IS/WAS a skins ticket he should have been dismissed from the table. SEE what big money gives ya....

The real issue with the Morton contract was that the Jets tried to get cute and not give Morton any more than they had to, rather than matching the contract that he signed with the Skins. The issue with the arbitrator being a season ticket holder of the Skins is immaterial. He announced it before the hearing and the Jets were okay with it. You cannot blame the rules after you lose when you agree to play by them before the game starts.

And let's not forget, the grievance was filed by the NFLPA, not the Redskins.

[GhostRider68]

As I read today Milloy said he was not contacted by ANY team prior to his release. So the real question is are they going to hold Peter King liabel for let's say...Slander?:twak: :dalassuk:

[hamptonskinsfan]

Originally posted by Trung24
As I read today Milloy said he was not contacted by ANY team prior to his release. So the real question is are they going to hold Peter King liabel for let's say...Slander?:twak: :dalassuk:
good point, maybe that's what Snyder and Co. should do. Possibly make KingJackA$$ realize that he can't just spout off at the perverbial mouth just cause he has a vendetta against the skins.

[hamptonskinsfan]

As far as Socialjetfan is concerned......"Quit YER Bitchin" you lost get over it, dont live in the past. As Stated before, The JETS FO was told BEFORE the start of the hearing of the situation of the arbitrator being a Season ticket holder.The JETS opted not to get another arbitrator so dont hand me this "See what deep pockets get you " BULLSH$T. Are you jealous that we have an owner and a FO that is not afraid to better their team????? Then again you are a "SOCIAL" jet fan and not a die hard, so i guess when you only follow your team socially and not as devoted as some, you dont get ALL of the facts and make yourself look like a MORON by not being informed. Like a wise man always said "NEVER GO INTO A GUNFIGHT WITH A KNIFE" Enuff said.

[SkinsKY]

Why so bitter? Oh well...hope the jets win 4 games

[CarMike]

I would love to see Snyder go after Peterless King. But it wont happen. Just like when we let Deion try to make a comeback and let him out of his contract. Snyder will take the high road. Can you guys imagine the PR hit it would cause Snyder if he tried to sue SI and Peterless King? It would be a know win situation for Snyder and the Redskins.

[hamptonskinsfan]

point taken mike. just doesnt seem right that king can get his information from the National enquirer and still be considered a "LEGIT" journalist.

[PennSkinsFan]

Nah. Leave well enough alone King looks like an idiot by reporting something he can't substantiate. If Snyder goes after him it just looks more liek Snyer going after the less fortunate. Lave well enough alone. Story is over, Milloy denied it, Redskins have fax proof, end of story. King loses respect.

[camasterton]

I'm reminded of a quote- "Liberals invent injustices, Conservatives adjust to them"
I think the Redskins will just move on. Don't expect a retraction or adjustment from King btw. He comes from the same "it's somebody else's fault" media, rampant in America.

[IowaSkinsFan]

I have a message for King, courtesy the Dixie chicks:

F
U
P
K

Feel free to speculate.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

this is ridiculous. why wont these pricks just leave snyder and the skins alone?

[camasterton]

He's different and some, especially journalistas don't like different. btw Check out Kings column today and see his retraction of the "probable tampering" and other excuses. It is exactly, I mean exactly what I expected.

[skinswin'emALL]

Check waht L. Miloy told King when he saw him on Sunday.......

"He's furious with me for reporting the tampering story, and I can't repeat what he said to me in a hallway outside the Bills' locker room after Sunday's game against his former club. Suffice it to say he was fairly strident in telling me never to approach him again as long as I dwell on the planet earth, with quite a bit of emphasis."

King better watch his back!:twak:

[Skins57]

Originally posted by skinswin'emALL
Check waht L. Miloy told King when he saw him on Sunday.......

"He's furious with me for reporting the tampering story, and I can't repeat what he said to me in a hallway outside the Bills' locker room after Sunday's game against his former club. Suffice it to say he was fairly strident in telling me never to approach him again as long as I dwell on the planet earth, with quite a bit of emphasis."

King better watch his back!:twak:

Sweet

[kelly]

> http://www.washtimes.com/sports/20030908-124905-9747r.htm

~ ~ ~ i seriously doubt anything will come of this.

[hail2skins]

Milloy should have punched Peterless King.

[rskinsfan10]

Originally posted by hail2skins
Milloy should have punched Peterless King.

I'm still waiting for a response to my email I sent him a year ago. My face can't get any more blue.

[hail2skins]

Originally posted by rskinsfan10
I'm still waiting for a response to my email I sent him a year ago. My face can't get any more blue.

I know you are. If he ever steps foot into Fedex Field, you have dibs on him.

[skinswin'emALL]

Originally posted by hail2skins
I know you are. If he ever steps foot into Fedex Field, you have dibs on him.

He would be fare game, because I know he would be wearin' Giant blue.

[PennSkinsFan]

The Washington Post reports there appears to be little or no chance that the Redskins will be punished for a tampering allegation involving S Lawyer Milloy. Milloy originally was quoted as saying that he received a contract offer from the Redskins before being released by the New England Patriots last week, but later retracted that statement. Redskins officials vehemently denied the charge, and NFL sources said the league had almost no chance of proving a tampering in the case. Milloy signed with the Buffalo Bills on the day after being cut by the Patriots.

[hamptonskinsfan]

Looks as though the NFL will look into this. : http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-bills-milloytampering&prov=ap&type=lgns
when the skins are found innocent then there should be some retrubution IMO. Now the NFL is getting involved. When does it stop. i bet old peterless is gushing at the fact they are investigating this.

[hail2skins]

Yeah, word is nothing will come of it and Milloy verbally attacking Peterless for reporting it doesn't help either.