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lorimike
11-07-2007, 06:28 AM
This will be another tough one for us. It is a rarity that the Skins put another team away so that I can just relax and watch. Every skins game usually comes down to the last drive. We are not as good as Dallas so I don' expect us to have the Eagles buried by the 3rd quarter. Our problem will be the usual inconsistant pass rush and our inability to score points. As of now I am not convinced Jason will be our long term answer at QB. I hope he is but I am not sure. We might know the definative answer about Campbell at the conclusion of this season. The other issue with this team is our lack of a big receiver. So my game prediction is another nail bitter decided by 3 points. 20-17 Redskins.
lpunder414
11-07-2007, 06:46 AM
This will be another tough one for us. It is a rarity that the Skins put another team away so that I can just relax and watch. Every skins game usually comes down to the last drive. We are not as good as Dallas so I don' expect us to have the Eagles buried by the 3rd quarter. Our problem will be the usual inconsistant pass rush and our inability to score points. As of now I am not convinced Jason will be our long term answer at QB. I hope he is but I am not sure. We might know the definative answer about Campbell at the conclusion of this season. The other issue with this team is our lack of a big receiver. So my game prediction is another nail bitter decided by 3 points. 20-17 Redskins.
You know, I have been thinking the same thing as of late. Yes, I know it's still kinda early to suggest this, but he has been a complete non-factor. Yes, he got all of the hype this summer and everyone predicted him to have a breakout year, but he hasn't produced. And with a guy like Derek Andersen hitting the FA market this coming spring I'm not too sure that we shouldn't reevaluate the QB position.
whistleandthumb
11-07-2007, 07:13 AM
You know, I have been thinking the same thing as of late. Yes, I know it's still kinda early to suggest this, but he has been a complete non-factor. Yes, he got all of the hype this summer and everyone predicted him to have a breakout year, but he hasn't produced. And with a guy like Derek Andersen hitting the FA market this coming spring I'm not too sure that we shouldn't reevaluate the QB position. Maybe the pressure is too much for him coming from us lotal fans seeing that we haven't had an effective QB to stay here for more than e or 4 years since the early 90's late 80's timeframe
I don't want to turn this into a JC thread, but the guy is playing with banged up WR's - some who can't hold onto the ball when they get it, no running game (until NY), and a banged up OL. Yet, he still manages to move the ball effectively, at times, and can also make plays with his feet.
If we had a Randy Moss, TO, Larry Fitzgerald, Chad Johnson, etc. do you think his numbers would be better? I certainly do.
Biggie
11-07-2007, 07:29 AM
I'm sorry, but I can't believe that someone is already pushing for us to overhaul the QB position - again. Have a little patience, folks, it's not like we're vying for the Super Bowl this year. Let the kid grow.
Skins4life
11-07-2007, 07:49 AM
I'm sorry, but I can't believe that someone is already pushing for us to overhaul the QB position - again. Have a little patience, folks, it's not like we're vying for the Super Bowl this year. Let the kid grow.
I agree - for the love of baby jesus. This kid is learning. He scrambled against jets for 29 when nothing was there - there will be ups and downs. look at JC during detriot game/packers game he was our future, now after some reserved play calling, we are ready for an overhaul??
Oh - I forgot - Payton Manning was unreal his first year
Spence
11-07-2007, 08:59 AM
Jason Campbell is the most physically talented person the Redskins have had at the QB position in my lifetime. As soon as Jason is working with a head coach who doesn't hate passing, he'll be very, very productive. He's smart, got a rocket arm, good legs, and doesn't fear the rush. Campbell isn't doing much for the same reason our expensive wideouts are not doing much.
The solution isn't to replace Campbell. The solution is to replace his head coach.
RedskinsDave
11-07-2007, 09:04 AM
Jason Campbell is the most physically talented person the Redskins have had at the QB position in my lifetime. As soon as Jason is working with a head coach who doesn't hate passing, he'll be very, very productive. He's smart, got a rocket arm, good legs, and doesn't fear the rush. Campbell isn't doing much for the same reason our expensive wideouts are not doing much.
The solution isn't to replace Campbell. The solution is to replace his head coach.
What about the rings? THE RINGS!!!!11!!1
akhhorus
11-07-2007, 09:10 AM
This will be another tough one for us. It is a rarity that the Skins put another team away so that I can just relax and watch. Every skins game usually comes down to the last drive. We are not as good as Dallas so I don' expect us to have the Eagles buried by the 3rd quarter. Our problem will be the usual inconsistant pass rush and our inability to score points. As of now I am not convinced Jason will be our long term answer at QB. I hope he is but I am not sure. We might know the definative answer about Campbell at the conclusion of this season. The other issue with this team is our lack of a big receiver. So my game prediction is another nail bitter decided by 3 points. 20-17 Redskins.
Based on your recent track record, this means Campbell should have a break out game this week lol.
And I'm glad you're giving up on Campbell after less than a season as our starter. :rolleyes:
Keino
11-07-2007, 09:24 AM
Jason Campbell is the most physically talented person the Redskins have had at the QB position in my lifetime. As soon as Jason is working with a head coach who doesn't hate passing, he'll be very, very productive. He's smart, got a rocket arm, good legs, and doesn't fear the rush. Campbell isn't doing much for the same reason our expensive wideouts are not doing much.
The solution isn't to replace Campbell. The solution is to replace his head coach.
Agreed. I don't understand making the investment in Campbell to utilize him the way he has been utilized thus far.
hessy36
11-07-2007, 09:29 AM
This will be another tough one for us. It is a rarity that the Skins put another team away so that I can just relax and watch. Every skins game usually comes down to the last drive. We are not as good as Dallas so I don' expect us to have the Eagles buried by the 3rd quarter. Our problem will be the usual inconsistant pass rush and our inability to score points. As of now I am not convinced Jason will be our long term answer at QB. I hope he is but I am not sure. We might know the definative answer about Campbell at the conclusion of this season. The other issue with this team is our lack of a big receiver. So my game prediction is another nail bitter decided by 3 points. 20-17 Redskins.
If only JC could get that ball to Moss. Moss is wasting away out there. So frustrating!!! Moss must be banging his head against a wall!!!! :smash:
I agree it will be close, but I think we lose. Sad to say...
hessy36
11-07-2007, 09:31 AM
Agreed. I don't understand making the investment in Campbell to utilize him the way he has been utilized thus far.
I think if the coaches had faith that he could get the ball deep, they would play the ball deep. But he over throws consistently, and my guess is he is doing the same in practice and I think the game play calling reflects that.. UGH!
hessy36
11-07-2007, 09:33 AM
Jason Campbell is the most physically talented person the Redskins have had at the QB position in my lifetime. As soon as Jason is working with a head coach who doesn't hate passing, he'll be very, very productive. He's smart, got a rocket arm, good legs, and doesn't fear the rush. Campbell isn't doing much for the same reason our expensive wideouts are not doing much.
The solution isn't to replace Campbell. The solution is to replace his head coach.
An Offensive coach that hates passing?? Are you kiddnig me?? .. REMINDER: BRUNELL TO MOSS????
Maybe they don't pass because JC can't complete anything! THAT is the reality!
PGiddy18
11-07-2007, 09:35 AM
If only JC could get that ball to Moss. Moss is wasting away out there. So frustrating!!! Moss must be banging his head against a wall!!!! :smash:
I agree it will be close, but I think we lose. Sad to say...
Umm... if I recall the last time Jason attempted to give the ball to Moss all day long (Green Bay) it was Moss who had the issues, not Jason. There are catches that our Wide receivers should be making and they just aren't. That isn't on Jason, again, its the people who are being paid to catch the balls but aren't.
This is going to be a GREAT weekend. I've got some friends coming into town for the game, and its going to be fantastic! I hope we destroy the eagles!!! Yes, it might be harder than we think, but the Eagles are a very hurt bunch at the moment and their fans are turning on them quickly. This is their last shot before the season is a complete waste, so look for them to come out strong.
If we contain westbrook (not even McNabb, I'm not too concerned with him) we should be able to beat the iggles.
Keino
11-07-2007, 09:38 AM
If only JC could get that ball to Moss. Moss is wasting away out there. So frustrating!!! Moss must be banging his head against a wall!!!! :smash:
I agree it will be close, but I think we lose. Sad to say...
Moss has Dropped at least a dozen balls. If he is wasting away it is due to his inability to hang on to the damn ball. Last game was the first game this year in which he did not have a crucial 3rd down drop.
Keino
11-07-2007, 09:39 AM
I think if the coaches had faith that he could get the ball deep, they would play the ball deep. But he over throws consistently, and my guess is he is doing the same in practice and I think the game play calling reflects that.. UGH!
Actually it came out this week on the Doc walker show that they don't practice the long ball. I guess that's why they don't hit it the one or 2 times per game they throw it.
He sure seems to hit those Mid range passes very well. Why not throw some of those?
SkinsfaninNJ
11-07-2007, 09:40 AM
I can't believe this thread.
Where was all this talk about Campbell after he was named NFC player of the week against the Lions, or how about when he was the best player on the field against the Packers.
This is just amazing to me. I hope this is the minority of fans, because if not then we are a sad fan base.
JsMaViSd
11-07-2007, 09:41 AM
If we decided to do a QB change, id seriously consider going on strike against the skins in some way
akhhorus
11-07-2007, 09:41 AM
I can't believe this thread.
Where was all this talk about Campbell after he was named NFC player of the week against the Lions, or how about when he was the best player on the field against the Packers.
This is just amazing to me. I hope this is the minority of fans, because if not then we are a sad fan base.
Keep in mind the author of the thread was advocating getting rid of Portis last week because of the Pat's game.
SkinsfaninNJ
11-07-2007, 09:42 AM
Actually it came out this week on the Doc walker show that they don't practice the long ball. I guess that's why they don't hit it the one or 2 times per game they throw it.
He sure seems to hit those Mid range passes very well. Why not throw some of those?
I also remember against the Jets Campbell hitting Thrash in the chest with a long pass. To say he misses consistently is very inaccurate.
Spence
11-07-2007, 09:42 AM
An Offensive coach that hates passing?? Are you kiddnig me?? .. REMINDER: BRUNELL TO MOSS????Did you miss the 2006 season or something?
Maybe they don't pass because JC can't complete anything! THAT is the reality!Campbell is completing almost 59% of his passes this year, up from 53% last year.
You and Coach Gibbs are apparently of one mind on the subject: If the first two passes are incomplete, don't throw any more passes downfield. Suffice to say that the wisdom of such a policy eludes me.
I also recall Jason Campbell putting the ball right into his receivers' hands downfield on numerous occasions during a game in Green Bay earlier this year.
Spence
11-07-2007, 09:44 AM
Actually it came out this week on the Doc walker show that they don't practice the long ball. I guess that's why they don't hit it the one or 2 times per game they throw it.I heard that, too. The passing game we have -- to the extent it exists -- is the result of a conscious decision made by Coach Gibbs. I can't imagine there has been another NFL team in the last 40 years [or more] that doesn't regularly practice the deep passing game in every single practice.
SkinsfaninNJ
11-07-2007, 09:46 AM
I heard that, too. The passing game we have -- to the extent it exists -- is the result of a conscious decision made by Coach Gibbs. I can't imagine there has been another NFL team in the last 40 years [or more] that doesn't regularly practice the deep passing game in every single practice.
H2S brought up a great point about practice in another thread. Moss doesn't really practice much do to injury. Hard to improve.
RedskinsDave
11-07-2007, 09:48 AM
H2S brought up a great point about practice in another thread. Moss doesn't really practice much do to injury. Hard to improve.
And that's a problem because timing is everthing on those passes.
tbfoster1
11-07-2007, 09:50 AM
Actually it came out this week on the Doc walker show that they don't practice the long ball. I guess that's why they don't hit it the one or 2 times per game they throw it.
He sure seems to hit those Mid range passes very well. Why not throw some of those?
Well that sucks. I was thinking they should practice without checkdowns since they obviously have that down.
If someone asked me what was wrong with the offense, JC's name probably wouldn't even be brought up in the conversation.
JsMaViSd
11-07-2007, 10:14 AM
I also remember against the Jets Campbell hitting Thrash in the chest with a long pass. To say he misses consistently is very inaccurate.
the pass was very accurate, but Thrash did not just DROP the ball, the defender made a great play on that ball also, had he not, Thrash was coming down with it..
Keino
11-07-2007, 10:16 AM
the pass was very accurate, but Thrash did not just DROP the ball, the defender made a great play on that ball also, had he not, Thrash was coming down with it..
Thrash has to come down with that ball. At some point the WRs need to help the young QB out.
SkinsfaninNJ
11-07-2007, 10:29 AM
the pass was very accurate, but Thrash did not just DROP the ball, the defender made a great play on that ball also, had he not, Thrash was coming down with it..
DB made a very good play. My point was that other posters in this thread claimed that Campbell has "consistently" missed on long balls. I disagree. The ones he has missed have hurt for obvious reasons, but he has connected on a few (of the top of my head, two to ARE against Phins, one to Moss against Giants), a few have been dropped (and one the receiver gave up on the play), and occasionally the defense has made a good play on a perfectly placed ball.
JsMaViSd
11-07-2007, 10:45 AM
DB made a very good play. My point was that other posters in this thread claimed that Campbell has "consistently" missed on long balls. I disagree. The ones he has missed have hurt for obvious reasons, but he has connected on a few (of the top of my head, two to ARE against Phins, one to Moss against Giants), a few have been dropped (and one the receiver gave up on the play), and occasionally the defense has made a good play on a perfectly placed ball.
oh okay, i agree with you..
and i still think Moss catches that Ball vs the Jets if hes 100%..which he definately wasnt looking like it in that second half after that injury
ryflan47
11-07-2007, 11:32 AM
Lets kill em
SellerDoor45
11-07-2007, 11:43 AM
My belief is that on the deep balls that jason misses is because he is not getting enough air under it and allowing his receiver to run under it. Even though Moss is small, he has come back to the ball and caught it before the CB even got turned around before many of times (i think once even in triple coverage a year or two ago). I believe someone mentioned that Troy FAKEman said the same thing.
Go back and look at the bomb to Moss in OT against the Jets, not much arc to the pass.
He'll get it soon....hopefully.
ArtMonkTheGreat
11-07-2007, 01:33 PM
This will be a tough one yet again. Gibbs needs to let the offense rip!
redskin_rich
11-07-2007, 01:41 PM
This will be a tough one yet again. Gibbs needs to let the offense rip!
Welcome to hailRedskins, AMTG!
Great picture in your sig but we need you to make it smaller.
SkinsfaninNJ
11-07-2007, 02:33 PM
I was thinking it may be appropriate to turn this thread back to the upcoming Eagles game since there doesn't seem to be a thread discussing the game yet.
I will be interested to see if GW employs a similar defense to the Monday night game pushing the corners up forcing McNabb to make accurate throws.
Two things concern me about that defense. One, our coners are beat up with Rogers out and Smoot playing gimpy. Two, we are not getting the same type of pass rush from our front four as earlier in the season. I am sure fatigue and aches and pains are taking a toll on a less than overwhelmingly talented group.
openallnight
11-07-2007, 02:35 PM
Actually it came out this week on the Doc walker show that they don't practice the long ball. I guess that's why they don't hit it the one or 2 times per game they throw it.
I don't believe this. If it's true it's very disturbing.
redskin_rich
11-07-2007, 02:56 PM
I don't believe this. If it's true it's very disturbing.
I don't believe it either. What about what Santana was saying a while back about all the things they do in practice and how we haven't seen what all JC can do yet?
Back to this week's game, Philly's weakness on defense is against the pass. I'm sure we will give them a good dose of our running game but I expect to see the ball in the air as well.
Keino
11-07-2007, 03:18 PM
I don't believe it either. What about what Santana was saying a while back about all the things they do in practice and how we haven't seen what all JC can do yet?
It came from a player. I didn't make it up.
redskin_rich
11-07-2007, 03:24 PM
It came from a player. I didn't make it up.
I know that but I don't believe it. I think it was an exaggeration, probably just as what Santana said.
I don't believe half of what I hear, no matter who says it, when it comes to talking to the media.
Keino
11-07-2007, 03:28 PM
I know that but I don't believe it. I think it was an exaggeration, probably just as what Santana said.
I don't believe half of what I hear, no matter who says it, when it comes to talking to the media.
I believe it, because of how infrequently they call it in games. Why practice something you have no intention of trying in the game?
Just Like I believed Portis when he said they fumble and drop balls in practice and that the defense plays well in practice. Practice translates into performance. It's not just an addage that you play how you practice.....it's a fact.
redskin_rich
11-07-2007, 03:46 PM
I believe it, because of how infrequently they call it in games. Why practice something you have no intention of trying in the game?
Just Like I believed Portis when he said they fumble and drop balls in practice and that the defense plays well in practice. Practice translates into performance. It's not just an addage that you play how you practice.....it's a fact.
That's a good point and I actually thought to add that right after I posted. The remark that we don't practice it was probably as accurate as saying we don't throw it in the games. Meaning we do but very seldom. I think (hope) this was just a case for this past week though. We'll see. In the past, we have seen Jason throw 30-40 times in a game, so I'm not going to jump on this we don't throw bandwagon just yet.
I think we have a struggling offense and the coaches are just trying to do some things we can do good right now, which is what I would do too. But we have to expand on that or we'll be one-dimensional and go nowhere.
HAWGZHEAD
11-07-2007, 03:51 PM
I don't have the best of memories but is it normal that we will have played a divisional opponent twice before we have played everyone in the division once?
redskin_rich
11-07-2007, 04:04 PM
I don't have the best of memories but is it normal that we will have played a divisional opponent twice before we have played everyone in the division once?
Yeah, last year we played the Cowboys twice before playing the Eagles once, so we reversed it this year, lol.
skinfan43
11-07-2007, 04:12 PM
I believe it, because of how infrequently they call it in games. Why practice something you have no intention of trying in the game?
Just Like I believed Portis when he said they fumble and drop balls in practice and that the defense plays well in practice. Practice translates into performance. It's not just an addage that you play how you practice.....it's a fact.
Generally I agree Sean, but multiple beat reporters here in Philly were gushing over how amazing the Eagles practiced last week before the Dallass Destruction, that they were hitting tons of precise intermediate and deep balls and screening Westbrook all over the place...look how far that got them...
Fumbles in practice, no deep balls, we really need an edge back, some kind of kill 'em attitude, more than ever - hopefully we'll claim some of it vs Philthy.
lorimike
11-07-2007, 08:11 PM
I don't want to turn this into a JC thread, but the guy is playing with banged up WR's - some who can't hold onto the ball when they get it, no running game (until NY), and a banged up OL. Yet, he still manages to move the ball effectively, at times, and can also make plays with his feet.
If we had a Randy Moss, TO, Larry Fitzgerald, Chad Johnson, etc. do you think his numbers would be better? I certainly do.<<< The QB makes the whole team better. The offense is better but it helps the defense as well if the QB can get points on the board. I look at what Tom Brady accomplished without Wes Welker, Randy Moss, Donte Stalworth and it was remarkable they did as well as they did last year with Jabar Gaffney as the primary target. I hope Campbell can be the guy but as of now he hasn't got it done.
lorimike
11-07-2007, 08:14 PM
Based on your recent track record, this means Campbell should have a break out game this week lol.
And I'm glad you're giving up on Campbell after less than a season as our starter. :rolleyes:<<<
Oh A-K-H-H-O-R-U-S! here we go again. If my track record is to that they have a breakout game after I question their talents then I'll just do this the rest of the season. Wins are much more important that my opinion being the right one
skins74
11-07-2007, 08:18 PM
Jason Campbell is the most physically talented person the Redskins have had at the QB position in my lifetime. As soon as Jason is working with a head coach who doesn't hate passing, he'll be very, very productive. He's smart, got a rocket arm, good legs, and doesn't fear the rush. Campbell isn't doing much for the same reason our expensive wideouts are not doing much.
The solution isn't to replace Campbell. The solution is to replace his head coach.
I agree, I really don't think Jason is the problem but with the right coach he could be part of the solution. BTW what happened to the Air Coryell??? As for the game I have no reason to expect a blowout on either side so 20-17 is probably gonna be pretty accurate.
Syllable
11-07-2007, 10:09 PM
That's a good point and I actually thought to add that right after I posted. The remark that we don't practice it was probably as accurate as saying we don't throw it in the games. Meaning we do but very seldom. I think (hope) this was just a case for this past week though. We'll see. In the past, we have seen Jason throw 30-40 times in a game, so I'm not going to jump on this we don't throw bandwagon just yet.
I think we have a struggling offense and the coaches are just trying to do some things we can do good right now, which is what I would do too. But we have to expand on that or we'll be one-dimensional and go nowhere.
We must try something. Its become a pattern that Thrash will get one deep pass that he will get absolutely no separation on. You guys Harp on Lloyd, but Thrash blows.
skinsfan36
11-07-2007, 11:48 PM
hoping for a 10-12 point win for us instead of this one coming down to the wire
skinsfan36
11-07-2007, 11:49 PM
We must try something. Its become a pattern that Thrash will get one deep pass that he will get absolutely no separation on. You guys Harp on Lloyd, but Thrash blows.
agreed as a reciever but he is a good special teamer and good blocker
Redskin4Life
11-08-2007, 08:33 AM
agreed as a reciever but he is a good special teamer and good blocker
And honestly, that's all he should be used as... I want to see Lloyd before Thrash. For those of you that say "BOOOOO" to the Receiver, then I want to see McCardell or the Eyes out there before Thrash. He's a great Teamer but we've got plenty of talent at WR that should be playing before him....
SkinsfaninNJ
11-08-2007, 08:38 AM
<<< The QB makes the whole team better. The offense is better but it helps the defense as well if the QB can get points on the board. I look at what Tom Brady accomplished without Wes Welker, Randy Moss, Donte Stalworth and it was remarkable they did as well as they did last year with Jabar Gaffney as the primary target. I hope Campbell can be the guy but as of now he hasn't got it done.
I totally agree with you. I mean Tom Brady's what a first ballot hall of famer. Campbell has played 15 games already. If we don't start seeing similar productiion by say game 18, I say we shut down the whole thing and trade up for Brohm in April.
Corporal Chaos
11-08-2007, 08:40 AM
For a while this season I've been saying to myself and co-workers (I live/work around Philly) that the Eagles are better than their record indicates. I'm saying that no more. Their defense is soft, and if you stop Westbrook, you stop the offense. Reggie Brown couldn't catch a cold, and Kevin Curtis is the only worrisome recieving threat.
Portis should have a good day against Philly's meager D-Line, and I don't expect the passing game to be that great cuz of the pass rush from Trent Cole and Kearse/Thomas. Cooley should have a good game b/c they don't really have a LB to match up against him, though Dawkins might. However, if they line B-Dawk over Cooley, the long pass should open up cuz Sean Consedine is garbage.
My call: Skins 24-17, w/ Portis breaking 100 again and a WR finally catching a TD.
SkinsfaninNJ
11-08-2007, 09:09 AM
For a while this season I've been saying to myself and co-workers (I live/work around Philly) that the Eagles are better than their record indicates. I'm saying that no more. Their defense is soft, and if you stop Westbrook, you stop the offense. Reggie Brown couldn't catch a cold, and Kevin Curtis is the only worrisome recieving threat.
Portis should have a good day against Philly's meager D-Line, and I don't expect the passing game to be that great cuz of the pass rush from Trent Cole and Kearse/Thomas. Cooley should have a good game b/c they don't really have a LB to match up against him, though Dawkins might. However, if they line B-Dawk over Cooley, the long pass should open up cuz Sean Consedine is garbage.
My call: Skins 24-17, w/ Portis breaking 100 again and a WR finally catching a TD.
Considine is out for the season.
News:
Considine (shoulder) was placed on season-ending injured reserve on Wednesday. Quintin Mikell will take over the starting strong safety spot in his absence.
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Keino
11-08-2007, 09:11 AM
I totally agree with you. I mean Tom Brady's what a first ballot hall of famer. Campbell has played 15 games already. If we don't start seeing similar productiion by say game 18, I say we shut down the whole thing and trade up for Brohm in April.
I know this is sarcasm (Great work BTW) but if we trade up for anyone it should be Chris Long or Darren McFadden.
akhhorus
11-08-2007, 09:21 AM
<<<
Oh A-K-H-H-O-R-U-S! here we go again. If my track record is to that they have a breakout game after I question their talents then I'll just do this the rest of the season. Wins are much more important that my opinion being the right one
I repeat:
I'm glad you're giving up on Campbell after less than a season as our starter. :rolleyes:
Corporal Chaos
11-08-2007, 09:55 AM
Considine is out for the season.
News:
Considine (shoulder) was placed on season-ending injured reserve on Wednesday. Quintin Mikell will take over the starting strong safety spot in his absence.
Player Archive
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Oh, alright then, I didn't check injury updates yesterday. Mikell's not much better, so just replace what I said about Consedine with Mikell
The Skinsinator
11-08-2007, 10:08 AM
I firmly believe the upcoming game against the Eagles will illustrate where we are as a team and if what type of final half ending we should expect this year. Eagles won't go down without a fight especially with the pressure mounting on McNabb and Reid. We must undoubtedly leave with a victory preferably a convincing one.
lorimike
11-08-2007, 07:52 PM
I firmly believe the upcoming game against the Eagles will illustrate where we are as a team and if what type of final half ending we should expect this year. Eagles won't go down without a fight especially with the pressure mounting on McNabb and Reid. We must undoubtedly leave with a victory preferably a convincing one.
<<<
It was nice to see Clinton in character this week. Maybe a loser attitude will help everyone play better.
akhhorus
11-08-2007, 07:58 PM
<<<
It was nice to see Clinton in character this week. Maybe a loser attitude will help everyone play better.
Huh? Clinton's characters are a "loser attitude"?
greatest2
11-08-2007, 08:01 PM
I totally agree with you. I mean Tom Brady's what a first ballot hall of famer. Campbell has played 15 games already. If we don't start seeing similar productiion by say game 18, I say we shut down the whole thing and trade up for Brohm in April.
so basically what your saying is if JC isn't tom brady after the end of the season then we should scratch him all together?
I don't agree with that, but thats my opinion.
i hope you where being sarcastic
Keino
11-08-2007, 08:36 PM
so basically what your saying is if JC isn't tom brady after the end of the season then we should scratch him all together?
I don't agree with that, but thats my opinion.
i hope you where being sarcastic
It's definite sarcasm.
lorimike
11-08-2007, 09:09 PM
Huh? Clinton's characters are a "loser attitude"?<<<
OK. Maybe watching the "Office "and posting on this site is not for me. Was it a freudian slip? This is not what I intended to say. I liked Portis' press conference. And perhaps the attitude will help this team play looser and win a string of games. Enjoy Ank.... I mispoke
Skins3
11-08-2007, 10:01 PM
Actually it came out this week on the Doc walker show that they don't practice the long ball. I guess that's why they don't hit it the one or 2 times per game they throw it.
He sure seems to hit those Mid range passes very well. Why not throw some of those?
This is the problem with Gibbs and the redskins right now as a team we do not use our players to the best of their abilities as well as the coaches everything we ever hear about Campbell from gibbs is how well he throws the the deep ball yet we fail to practice and utilize it to win games.
perfect example with Al Saunders as well Saunders was not brought here to run the offense he was brought in to run JOE GIBBS offense complete waste of 2 million dollars pay some joe off the street half mill and let him run gibbs offense
there has to be something brandon lloyd can do you cant tell me james trash is better the lloyd at the wr position
MikeBass
11-08-2007, 11:43 PM
The only problem with Campbell right now is that we did not get him any receivers to throw to in the offseason. He and Moss has not had the chemistry going from day 1, Lloyd had one decent season in San Fran and even with his lack of production and attitude problem last season we decided to give him another shot to mess up the corp. Right now our best wide out is a ex-college QB who was supposed to be our # 3 receiver, that is not a good thing and it shows. Campbell could still be a very good QB but his confidence could also be broken if these guys do not somehow start to produce for him.
Against the Eagles, I think that we need to try to establish the run again, spread Cooley out to get him some short to intermediate passes across the middle and try to break long passes after the kids confidence comes back.
lorimike
11-09-2007, 06:24 AM
The only problem with Campbell right now is that we did not get him any receivers to throw to in the offseason. He and Moss has not had the chemistry going from day 1, Lloyd had one decent season in San Fran and even with his lack of production and attitude problem last season we decided to give him another shot to mess up the corp. Right now our best wide out is a ex-college QB who was supposed to be our # 3 receiver, that is not a good thing and it shows. Campbell could still be a very good QB but his confidence could also be broken if these guys do not somehow start to produce for him.
Against the Eagles, I think that we need to try to establish the run again, spread Cooley out to get him some short to intermediate passes across the middle and try to break long passes after the kids confidence comes back.<<<
Perhaps James Hardy from Indiana will enter the draft and we'll pick him. He's 6-7 with 4.4 speed. Or maybe another Monk. Marcus Monk from Arkansas is 6-6.
gibbsisgod
11-09-2007, 07:58 AM
I totally agree with you. I mean Tom Brady's what a first ballot hall of famer. Campbell has played 15 games already. If we don't start seeing similar productiion by say game 18, I say we shut down the whole thing and trade up for Brohm in April.
this is a joke right?
Sonoma
11-09-2007, 08:08 AM
<<<
Perhaps James Hardy from Indiana will enter the draft and we'll pick him. He's 6-7 with 4.4 speed. Or maybe another Monk. Marcus Monk from Arkansas is 6-6.
Why are you worried about the draft? It's the middle of the season and we are in the playoff hunt.
redskin_rich
11-09-2007, 08:09 AM
*sigh* Well played sarcasm is wasted around here.
Back to this week's game, neither Santana or ARE practiced yesterday, so I don't know what to expect out of our passing game this week, other than not very much. It's going to be rough going I'm afraid but then, we should be used to that by now.
JsMaViSd
11-09-2007, 08:15 AM
*sigh* Well played sarcasm is wasted around here.
Back to this week's game, neither Santana or ARE practiced yesterday, so I don't know what to expect out of our passing game this week, other than not very much. It's going to be rough going I'm afraid but then, we should be used to that by now.
sigh, i dont see a deep pass being caught this game then....
Biggie
11-09-2007, 09:44 AM
*sigh* Well played sarcasm is wasted around here.
Back to this week's game, neither Santana or ARE practiced yesterday, so I don't know what to expect out of our passing game this week, other than not very much. It's going to be rough going I'm afraid but then, we should be used to that by now.
That's fine. We'll just run it sixty times.
hessy36
11-09-2007, 11:12 AM
*sigh* Well played sarcasm is wasted around here.
Back to this week's game, neither Santana or ARE practiced yesterday, so I don't know what to expect out of our passing game this week, other than not very much. It's going to be rough going I'm afraid but then, we should be used to that by now.
We are in big trouble....
Hr fan
11-09-2007, 11:39 AM
I'm sorry, but I can't believe that someone is already pushing for us to overhaul the QB position - again. Have a little patience, folks, it's not like we're vying for the Super Bowl this year. Let the kid grow.
Agree. Look at the past. Rypien and Schroeder were well seasoned system QBs operating behind superior O lines. Theismann almost bought a ticket out of town until he cleared the air with JG and became a system QB. Please, those of you that doubt JC, or doubt he is slowly earning JG's trust by playing below his abilities but within the system, answer me one question.
What would JC been allowed to do if Jansen and Thomas were still playing this year, and how close would the games have been?
hessy36
11-09-2007, 12:01 PM
Agree. Look at the past. Rypien and Schroeder were well seasoned system QBs operating behind superior O lines. Theismann almost bought a ticket out of town until he cleared the air with JG and became a system QB. Please, those of you that doubt JC, or doubt he is slowly earning JG's trust by playing below his abilities but within the system, answer me one question.
What would JC been allowed to do if Jansen and Thomas were still playing this year, and how close would the games have been?
My God bring Thomas back, AND SOON!
Skins3
11-09-2007, 06:56 PM
dunno if this is posted somewhere else but when might thomas return?
Syllable
11-09-2007, 11:03 PM
If we have Thrash Starting at even second WR ( with Moss and ARE out ) we will get absolutely nothing out of our Wideouts. You can take that to the bank.
skinsfan36
11-09-2007, 11:57 PM
i hope moss plays if not are,mccardell must step up
Syllable
11-10-2007, 07:07 PM
Agree. Look at the past. Rypien and Schroeder were well seasoned system QBs operating behind superior O lines. Theismann almost bought a ticket out of town until he cleared the air with JG and became a system QB. Please, those of you that doubt JC, or doubt he is slowly earning JG's trust by playing below his abilities but within the system, answer me one question.
What would JC been allowed to do if Jansen and Thomas were still playing this year, and how close would the games have been?
How about this, we just got off a game where it ranked in the top 10 in total rushing yards in Redskin history, yet whoever called the game didn't call many playaction passes.
The biggest problem with Jason Campbell is his coaches, not him.
RedSkinBrit
11-11-2007, 04:40 AM
Conseravtive play calls have restricted JC all season,but our WR,s have not helped his game neither.
lpunder414
11-11-2007, 09:24 AM
is moss playing?
hogskins
11-11-2007, 11:40 AM
is moss playing?
The Post (LeCanfora) says no on his blog: http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2007/11/skins_inactives_no_89_or_53.html
NCskinsfanatic
11-11-2007, 11:43 AM
Moss is out, as is Washington...
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