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skinfanjon
11-12-2007, 03:17 PM
Link: (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2007/11/taylor_out_at_least_two_weeks.html?nav=rss_blog)

We're screwed. Sunday's gonna be awful.

LadyNRedskinsfan
11-12-2007, 03:20 PM
*sigh* as if things aren't bad enough.....

akhhorus
11-12-2007, 03:23 PM
Time for Landry to step up and intimidate TO like Taylor always does.

give_portis_the_rock
11-12-2007, 03:26 PM
Damn
That's gonna give Romo the freedom of throwing the deep ball
And if Smoot goes down Torrence would be covering Crayton -- that really scares me

dcumdfan
11-12-2007, 03:54 PM
Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse. Williams will play PP 45 yards off the ball to compensate.

I am having flash backs to the Bucs throwing it all over us from a few years back when Taylor was out.

Red Bear
11-12-2007, 04:26 PM
the two major strengths on the opposite sides of the ball to start the season are slowly going down with injuries, atleast taylor will return in a couple weeks, and perhaps thomas can return and play well. but our oline and secondary are taking major hits.

im wondering if we should move landry to taylors role and put someone else in landrys role, but that might be too much

Biggie
11-12-2007, 04:41 PM
If our offense could score in addition to winning TOP, this wouldn't be such a catastrophe.

Unfortunately, they can't, and this is.

CNYSkinFan
11-12-2007, 04:46 PM
Bad news...bad news

I say we compensate by blitzing even more. Eliminate the time Romo needs to run the deep patterns and find his third option.

He can't throw if he is on his back.

LATrueRedskin
11-12-2007, 04:53 PM
Huge. He's a guy teams gameplan to stay away from. Now teams aren't going to have that problem. And I'm sure Gregg Williams has the stones to think he can just plug in anybody and stay with the same scheme. Losing Taylor is a big, big deal.

esmith1790
11-12-2007, 05:00 PM
Bad news...bad news

I say we compensate by blitzing even more. Eliminate the time Romo needs to run the deep patterns and find his third option.

He can't throw if he is on his back.

I think NY and PHIL both tried this and only had 2 sacks in the 2 games. and 1 shouldnt have counted really since Romo fell on the ball behind the LOS.

Not sure if a leopard can change his spots.

Red Bear
11-12-2007, 05:04 PM
Bad news...bad news

I say we compensate by blitzing even more. Eliminate the time Romo needs to run the deep patterns and find his third option.

He can't throw if he is on his back.

romos mobility will allow him to avoid the rush. and if youve watched the cowboys any while romo has been the QB he has this uncanny ability to scramble and make some 'how did they do that' improvised backyard type play for a first down or more

Skinz4lyfe
11-12-2007, 05:08 PM
I know TO is happy. Man that is huge! Our only hope is Romo having an off day and JC playing the game of his life because GW surely will not blitz now. It doesn't look good next week and beyond.

CNYSkinFan
11-12-2007, 05:14 PM
I think NY and PHIL both tried this and only had 2 sacks in the 2 games. and 1 shouldnt have counted really since Romo fell on the ball behind the LOS.

Not sure if a leopard can change his spots.

romos mobility will allow him to avoid the rush. and if youve watched the cowboys any while romo has been the QB he has this uncanny ability to scramble and make some 'how did they do that' improvised backyard type play for a first down or more

Your both probably right, but I rather lose going for broke then watch another game like the Patriots game.

Dept_of_Defense
11-12-2007, 05:25 PM
holy crap. we're going to be seriously "f-ed" unless Gregg Williams sticks Jesus @ free safety. i just hope we save face and we don't get crushed like the Pats game.

SpicyMcHaggis
11-12-2007, 05:27 PM
GW must be ecstatic. He can now blame his defensive failures on yet another significant injury.

"Boo-hoo...ST was out, so I couldn't play my genius defense"....kinda reminds me of the Griffin injury, the Springs injury, etc. etc. etc.

RedskinsDave
11-12-2007, 05:27 PM
Blitz anyways. Then we can see Romo's bloodied face all over ESPN.

esmith1790
11-12-2007, 05:28 PM
Your both probably right, but I rather lose going for broke then watch another game like the Patriots game.

I totally understand and see that esp. if it was from our point of view, however it can be total sorryness.

When i played little league FB in the early 80s around 7-8yr group, there was a real dominant team that played over the top rough football. Even if they had 15 yarders against them, they still did it because my team sucked so bad.

If we had a penalty their coach would decline it no matter what just to rub it in. So many of my teammates were hurt by their cheap play.

give_portis_the_rock
11-12-2007, 06:04 PM
Your both probably right, but I rather lose going for broke then watch another game like the Patriots game.

Exactly, with our banged up secondary and their solid core of receivers then it will be a field day for Dallas offence if we sit back in that cover 2. We NEED to bring the blitz whether it works or not.

Red Bear
11-12-2007, 07:13 PM
Your both probably right, but I rather lose going for broke then watch another game like the Patriots game.

true, i do agree with that, our defense has become pretty boring to watch as well. if we blitz we can force him to go where he may not want to go, but if we just sit back in a zone then he can pick and choose where he wants to go, but you also have to watch romos scrambling abilities

FunBunch5
11-12-2007, 07:58 PM
Greg Williams + Pierson Prilou = Trouble....for Dallas!

RedskinRyan
11-12-2007, 09:13 PM
this season just keeps unraveling right in front of our eyes. PP is not making the impact as a role player the way he was two years ago.

SkinsfaninNJ
11-12-2007, 09:53 PM
I don't know if GW blitzes or not, but the cover 2 won't be nearly as effective without Taylor. I'd like to see GW get a little creative, but I won't hold my breath.

greatest2
11-12-2007, 10:19 PM
this season just keeps unraveling right in front of our eyes. PP is not making the impact as a role player the way he was two years ago.

he ain't in his same position as last time, and GW isn't using the same type of scheme (blitz alot and stuff).

unfortunatly, i think this is the straw that broke the camels back.

Imagin anyteam going down:
a top 5 RG in the league (like Hutch to vikings),
solid if unspectacular RT going down for the year,
there big play wide out (TO to dallas / giants no plex glass),
there number 2 corner,
there probowl safety who lead the league in picks at a point and stop teams going deep
Solid if unspectacular Marcus washington
injuriers that slow up there number 3 corner (filling in for number 2) there number 2 wide reciever, and there back up RT (filling in for above injury). and a slow to recover Marcus.

Guys, how much can we really expect because of these injuriers????

once again, i have said it early in the year, we need to hold on to AT LEAST our mid round picks to get depth behind our starters. We have the front line players to get it done, but lack the depth because it is to rough to go through the NFL regular season without injury's. There are teams that are lucky, Pats, cowboys (though they lost Jason Fergunson), but then look at the colts, and us to an extent. We need depth and some luck and right now we clearly have neither

skinsfan36
11-12-2007, 11:08 PM
this sucks are playoff hopes are really in jeopardy now,maybe gw will get fired now. i mean tampa bay shreaded us in 05 when taylor was out man im depressed

colkurtz
11-12-2007, 11:13 PM
If this doesn't force GW to make some game changes - nothing will. If we don't do something different Romo is going to shred this defense to nasty little pieces.

Second thing - the offense must just go into total scoring mode. we'll need 30+ points to win this game.

skins74
11-12-2007, 11:21 PM
That's bad news because it seemed as soon as ST got hurt the defense completely suckked.

give_portis_the_rock
11-13-2007, 01:17 AM
That's bad news because it seemed as soon as ST got hurt the defense completely suckked.

Very rarely do you see a single player (who's not a quarterback) have that big an impact on a team. ST is that kind of player. I just hope he doesn't bolt after his contract year.

joethefan
11-13-2007, 02:47 AM
this is why you don't send away all of your draft picks like danny gives away free turkeys......cause you wind up having problems with depth....

dont; you guys notice that once one guy goes down, the entire defense is short...why because we don't use the draft properly....

hessy36
11-13-2007, 08:32 AM
Link: (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2007/11/taylor_out_at_least_two_weeks.html?nav=rss_blog)

We're screwed. Sunday's gonna be awful.

Might be as bad as New England.. ugh.

saviour
11-13-2007, 10:01 AM
That's bad news because it seemed as soon as ST got hurt the defense completely suckked.

Same thing I was thinking. I think the minute the eagles noticed that Taylor wasnt on the field they started throwing deep. And the sad thing is they kept throwing deep for the rest of the game. This is a bad sign cause it gives teams free reign to look down the field on our defense now.

Taylor will be able to justify a new contract if we screw the pooch now.

CNYSkinFan
11-13-2007, 10:15 AM
Greg Williams + Pierson Prilou = Trouble....for Dallas!
please don't post while high lol

Ibleedburgundy
11-13-2007, 10:20 AM
Damn. That would have been the one reason to watch this game-to see ST knock the crap out of TO.

This is going to be ugly.

nicefellow31
11-13-2007, 10:40 AM
It was very obvious that Sean Taylor intimidated Terrell Owens. He started as rookie by just taking a couple (dumb) personal foul shots against TO. The message was delivered and I cannot remember TO having any success against the Skins. I was looking forward to watching this match up again. Not feeling very good about this.

Moe
11-13-2007, 11:12 AM
It was very obvious that Sean Taylor intimidated Terrell Owens. He started as rookie by just taking a couple (dumb) personal foul shots against TO. The message was delivered and I cannot remember TO having any success against the Skins. I was looking forward to watching this match up again. Not feeling very good about this.

And from my vantage point, Rogers has also had some good games when matched up against TO, but.......

Anyway, I'd be interested in seeing GW mix it up and use a lot more nickel and dime packages from the start. Dallas is a pass heavy offense and if they can at least try to get them out of that early it might slow down some of their explosiveness. Key on Witten and hope that you get a good tacking day from the db's. On offense, keep running and try to slow the game down. and maybe you get some breaks that keep it in reach. Lining up without your biggest asset against their passing game I would think would initiate a more creative game plan, but I guess we'll see. Strange things are sometimes common in these games.

Sonoma
11-13-2007, 01:00 PM
Well we lost our best player IMO, this game is going to be tough without him. Hopefully LL can step up his game.

give_portis_the_rock
11-13-2007, 02:40 PM
And from my vantage point, Rogers has also had some good games when matched up against TO, but.......

Anyway, I'd be interested in seeing GW mix it up and use a lot more nickel and dime packages from the start. Dallas is a pass heavy offense and if they can at least try to get them out of that early it might slow down some of their explosiveness. Key on Witten and hope that you get a good tacking day from the db's. On offense, keep running and try to slow the game down. and maybe you get some breaks that keep it in reach. Lining up without your biggest asset against their passing game I would think would initiate a more creative game plan, but I guess we'll see. Strange things are sometimes common in these games.

Their running game really is nothing special.
We'd owned Jones since the beginning of his career, and as long as we tackle well (which we had been doing well until the 4th quarter of the Eagles game), Marion Barber aint all that special either.

Redskinmayhem
11-13-2007, 02:44 PM
This is where LL needs to have a big game. he's been on the fringe all year making plays here and there but still making mistakes. He needs to man up and be consistent and this week is his chance to do so. LL will be looking to take his shots at TO I'm sure. Besides, don't underestimate ST's influence on the secondary even when he's on the sidelines. he knows how to play TO so I look for him to mentor the younger guys and help them in any way he can.

give_portis_the_rock
11-13-2007, 03:15 PM
This is where LL needs to have a big game. he's been on the fringe all year making plays here and there but still making mistakes. He needs to man up and be consistent and this week is his chance to do so. LL will be looking to take his shots at TO I'm sure. Besides, don't underestimate ST's influence on the secondary even when he's on the sidelines. he knows how to play TO so I look for him to mentor the younger guys and help them in any way he can.

I'd like to see if LL can play center field as good as ST always does
People were talking about how he can be a ball hawk and a run stuffer -- we really haven't seen him excel in pass coverage yet.

Moe
11-13-2007, 03:35 PM
Their running game really is nothing special.
We'd owned Jones since the beginning of his career, and as long as we tackle well (which we had been doing well until the 4th quarter of the Eagles game), Marion Barber aint all that special either.

I like Barber; he runs hard and he's effective as can be in that role. That being said, I'd rather force them to run for scores than have Romo sit back and practice passing as they march up and down the field. One thing this D will need to watch out for is the dump off/screens to Barber where he can chew up yardage quickly and lay the wood on the Skins suddenly thinner secondary. I think this will put a premium on the LB's really being stellar in their recognition as well as coverage and tackling.

Moe
11-13-2007, 03:39 PM
I'd like to see if LL can play center field as good as ST always does
People were talking about how he can be a ball hawk and a run stuffer -- we really haven't seen him excel in pass coverage yet.

I think it's hopeful (at best) to expect Landry to compare to Taylor in coverage and pass defense. IMO, leave your more experienced Safeties to that and let Landry play up closer and keep his eyes on the Witten's, Barber's, Jones's and whomever might be running a crossing pattern at the time. The occassional blitz wouldn't hurt either, but were I calling the shots I'm not sure I'd gamble too much without ST roaming around.

FromDallas
11-13-2007, 08:30 PM
I think the biggest difference you guys will see from Dallas this year compared to last year will be the Dallas O-Line. They've been dominant this year.

skinsfan36
11-13-2007, 10:48 PM
yeah heres aquestion do we let ll play center field and bring pp closer to the line? i say resign stoutmire and cut boschetti and let stoutmire play until taylor gets back.

JoeJacksonTaylor28
11-14-2007, 02:01 AM
yeah heres aquestion do we let ll play center field and bring pp closer to the line? i say resign stoutmire and cut boschetti and let stoutmire play until taylor gets back.
i dont think ll can do st job but i dont want pp there either or os because he hasnt been here in a while but hopefully gw gets the d ready because if not to will torch the sec including ss, fs and the other cbs :)

Moe
11-14-2007, 09:52 AM
yeah heres aquestion do we let ll play center field and bring pp closer to the line? i say resign stoutmire and cut boschetti and let stoutmire play until taylor gets back.

I wouldn't do that. Leave the recognition and deep coverage to a guy like Priouleau who has more experience and let Landry play in the role that he's more naturally comfortable in. Dallas runs a lot of slants and crossing patterns underneath and Landry might be able to make some plays in that area, versus him trying to diagnose a read and making a mistake that leads to an easy score.

Dallas can score quickly and it's in the Skins best interest to make them earn those points rather than experimenting here and there and letting them get some quick td's.

Hr fan
11-15-2007, 10:36 AM
IMO both teams are on rolls - Dalass is positive, ours is negative. Losing ST is hard, but until we lose most of the coaching staff the result won't be different, only the final margin (I don't believe we would be 10 1/2 dogs if ST were at full strength, but we would be dogs by more than a touchdown).

Redskinmayhem
11-15-2007, 11:23 AM
damn, we're getting 10 1/2 pts....I guess we really are that bad right now.

well, lets hope for the best!!! I certainly won't complain this week if we win based on the pukes missing a FG in OT!!!!