Do You Go for it Fourth and 1?

[colkurtz]

What do you think of the decision to kick a 50 yd FG versus going for it on fourth and 1? Conservative Gibbs-ball or the correct decision?

We missed the FG, the cowboys get it back on the 40 and score a TD.

My answer: we need at least 30 to beat this team. We start on the 4 and drive to the 33. Cowgirls and their lame fans are on their heals. You go for it, get a first and keep driving toward that goal line. Let JC play and win here!

Winners play to win and Gibbs is playing not to lose - but we lose anyway.

p.s. the colts go for it on fourth and 1 and make it to win the game. just like the eagles did last week.

[JasonCampbell]

Suisham isn't reliable at all past 50. If we had a better long range kicker, I'd try the FG, but not with Suisham.

[colkurtz]

In Gibbs I he would have gone for it.

The continual criticism during the press conference, about these game decisions has got to be getting this 67 year old man down. IMO there is no way he will go through another year of this.

He holds this team back and they're not good enough to win with that continual handicap.

[skinfanjon]

I would be willing to bet that kicking the FG receives zero votes, lol.

[rskinsfan10]

I didn't like it when it happened, and I still don't like it. We have to develop some type of go for the kill mentality, and it has to start from the top.

[colkurtz]

I would be willing to bet that kicking the FG receives zero votes, lol.

Yeah, but there's always the: "gibbs is a god - he can do no wrong" crowd.

And you thought "marty-ball" was conservative!

[skinsfan36]

go for it i mean hey grow some gibbs

[Lavar703]

You have to go for it there, it wasnt about making the yard or getting stuffed for a loss, it would have sent a message not only to Dallas' defense that we came to win, but also to our offense that coach Gibbs has full confidence in them. Instead Suisham shanks the field goal and we look like chumps again. Give it to Sellers running behind Lorenzo Alexander or Todd Yoder and let him run someone over for that one yard, impose our will on them, show them were the better team and were here to kick your ass all day long, thats what I would have done.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

i just made the poll unanimous so far. shoulda gone for it there and it came back to bite us in the behind IMO.

[silverspring]

When you consider that you are playing a team that scores lots of points, field goals aren't going to win the game. A 50 yarder is just too chancy itself. If it was like a 35 yarder than i think the argument is closer because you expect to make that.

[colkurtz]

20 years ago you could win just on the FG......

now it's good or better QB play and TDs that win games.

Honestly I didn't expect this result. I figured there would be someone defending the conservative FG choice - even though we lost and it didn't work.

I EVEN thought there might be someone who would support the ubber-conservative, curl-up-in-a-ball and suck my thumb approach with the punt...

[LATrueRedskin]

I said go for it, but it's easy to say this after the fact. I was fine with the field goal try, but too bad we missed it. I was fine with either decision, but I personally would have tried to gain the 1st.

[colkurtz]

OK, who voted for the FG and isn't telling us why?

This isn't secret ballot! Defend thyself.

[The Skinsinator]

The moment the ball was no good eveyone knew Dallas would drive down and get points. I despise giving up 7 yds for any attempted play. This and the McIntosh almost pick swayed the momentum back to the girls. I honestly don't think Dallas is that much better than us if at all. All our players have alot of heart. Interested already to see what happens v. Tampa.

[colkurtz]

The moment the ball was no good eveyone knew Dallas would drive down and get points. I despise giving up 7 yds for any attempted play. This and the McIntosh almost pick swayed the momentum back to the girls. I honestly don't think Dallas is that much better than us if at all. All our players have alot of heart. Interested already to see what happens v. Tampa.

It's about making a statement and keeping the momentum going in your favor. You keep the ball and move to downfield. 14-0 and they would have been reeling.

[Spartan.14]

dude i really disagreed with gibs' call on 4th and 1. we shoulda pounded that ball in with portis or betts or even sellers cuz none of the skins rb's were stopped behind the line of scrimmage before the 4th and 1.

50 yard field goal attempts in dallas are very difficult to convert, especially with a kicker like suisham; the whole momentum changed when the kick was no good.

[Biggie]

I was saying they should go for it even before I knew it was fourth down.

[VegasSkinsFan]

You gotta go for it. Let Campbell do a sneak behind sellers or just by himself. I really would love to see JC pull a bootleg/option. GO SKINS !!!!

[MPCSkins]

Absolutely go for it. And I felt that way BEFORE the missed field goal too. I really believe we would have gotten it.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

There is only one correct answer here. And that is "Go for it". Just like he should have done on the other 4th and 1. I can't believe that people are defending that other one. But this first one was just a no-brainer.

[Ibleedburgundy]

I wanted us to go for it at the time so I have no qualms about Monday morning QBing in this poll. There are some coaches in the NFL that I can say for sure would have gone for it.

[WRSK1NS]

As well as we were moving the ball I thought we should have gone for it. A 96 yard drive would have been demoralizing to the Dallas D but instead they got the victory on that one and the ball back with great field position.

Knowing that Dallas can score we should have also known we needed all the points we could possibly get to beat them.

[MadDog97]

You go for it. Or better yet make plays beforehand so it is a nonissue.

Hey, you think the Pats would kick the FG? Oh, wait, they did go for it against Buffalo.

[dj_stouty]

What the hell; I said go for the field goal at the time...

First of all, it was officially a 49-yard field goal per the NFL gamebook.

Secondly, none of us (except maybe JTF, who I believe was at the game) watched pregame warmups to see how effective Shaun was kicking from that range. Part of the decision process is reflective on how well your kicker was doing in practice. Maybe he was lights-out? Who knows. What I do know is that he has been pretty damn good all season long.

Third, the severe underdog Redskins had a shot at a 10-point lead so they took it. The underdogs took a shot a putting points on the board, which is something you need to beat the Cowboys and their top offense. Quite frankly, so many of you are so upset with Gibbs that had he gone for it on 4th down and failed, you would have called for his head regardless.

Finally, missing the FG and giving the ball up on the 39 versus missing the 1st down and giving them the ball on the 32 realy wouldn't have mattered. The Cowboys constructed a 13-play drive that contained a handful of 3rd down completions against this defense; I find it hard to believe the extra 7 yards was going to stop them. And...my last point; this FG attempt had nothing to do with the outcome of the game. The game went on...Dallas still scored at will, and the Redskins' newly found passing attack fought its way for a chance to win. This wasn't a FG attempt or 1st down attepmt for the win. It seems that many of you are taking this loss out on this particular call, which really isn't fair.

[hail2skins]

You have to go for it there, it wasnt about making the yard or getting stuffed for a loss, it would have sent a message not only to Dallas' defense that we came to win, but also to our offense that coach Gibbs has full confidence in them. Instead Suisham shanks the field goal and we look like chumps again. Give it to Sellers running behind Lorenzo Alexander or Todd Yoder and let him run someone over for that one yard, impose our will on them, show them were the better team and were here to kick your ass all day long, thats what I would have done.I adopt this response as my own.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

That instance I would have gone for it. I have more confidence in picking up the yard than making the kick.

[Redskin4Life]

With a 6'5 guy under center, QB sneak all the way. Although I would have done it on 2nd down.

[Skins7ny]

dude i really disagreed with gibs' call on 4th and 1. we shoulda pounded that ball in with portis or betts or even sellers cuz none of the skins rb's were stopped behind the line of scrimmage before the 4th and 1.

50 yard field goal attempts in dallas are very difficult to convert, especially with a kicker like suisham; the whole momentum changed when the kick was no good.

I could not believe that we did not go for it, because the previous play was a run on 3rd-and-3. The only way a run on 3rd-and-3 makes sense is if you know that you are going for it on 4th down if you don't make it. When he summoned Suisham onto the field, I was livid. The fact that Suisham missed made it worse, but I would have been mad even if he had made it.

What Gibbs is telling the Cowboys there is that, don't worry, I will keep you in the game, I am playing not to lose. What Gibbs is telling his offense is, I don't have the confidence in you to pound it down their throats and risk getting one yard here. He is also telling them that he will not go for Dallas' throat.

When you are playing a better team in their house, you need to go for the kill shot. You have to show your team that you believe in them, even if they have let you down in the past.

[openallnight]

What do you think of the decision to kick a 50 yd FG versus going for it on fourth and 1? Conservative Gibbs-ball or the correct decision?

We missed the FG, the cowboys get it back on the 40 and score a TD.

My answer: we need at least 30 to beat this team. We start on the 4 and drive to the 33. Cowgirls and their lame fans are on their heals. You go for it, get a first and keep driving toward that goal line. Let JC play and win here!

Winners play to win and Gibbs is playing not to lose - but we lose anyway.

p.s. the colts go for it on fourth and 1 and make it to win the game. just like the eagles did last week.

You're missing a key point to the equation. On the previous play we had 3rd down and a long 4 and we ran the ball. Why? Obviously the coaches felt we were in 2 down territory. So, we end up in a 4th and 1/2 yard and they back out of their original plan and decide to kick.

In today's NFL where all the rules favor offenses you've got to play to score TDs. You may beat a team like the Jets with FGs but you're gonna make the game closer than need be and, you're not gonna beat a team like the Cowboys. I would advise Gibbs to watch a NE game or just review the one against us. With a huge lead, mind you, they go for it on 4th and short in the opponents territory. Because, they have the mentalilty that they are gonna score a TD on every drive.

Gibbs should know our team better than anyone on the face of the earth. And I'm a little concerned that he overestimates our defense. We have shown time and time again a propensity to wear down in the 4th quarter. He better try and grab all the points he can with the expectation the opponent will get a late game point surge.

[Hr fan]

What do you think of the decision to kick a 50 yd FG versus going for it on fourth and 1? Conservative Gibbs-ball or the correct decision?

We missed the FG, the cowboys get it back on the 40 and score a TD.

My answer: we need at least 30 to beat this team. We start on the 4 and drive to the 33. Cowgirls and their lame fans are on their heals. You go for it, get a first and keep driving toward that goal line. Let JC play and win here!

Winners play to win and Gibbs is playing not to lose - but we lose anyway.

p.s. the colts go for it on fourth and 1 and make it to win the game. just like the eagles did last week.

And the Pats go for it regardless of the score. Those teams tried to win. As 10 point underdogs we should know we had to take risks to win. So either the coaches didn't believe the spread and felt we could have won straight up (i.e., living in la-la land) or they hoped to stay close and let Dallass beat themselves (again la-la land in the vast majority of cases). It isn't that the coaches don't want to win, they are just not willing to pay the price to win. This makes the Redskins loveable losers, playing "smart" conservative football in a league where aggression and taking chances are the traits of winners.

[nicefellow31]

I didn't vote because Monday morning quarterbacking is not for me. If we would have attempted to run and got stopped, all the posts would have been "conservative run call! why didn't we pass?" If we pass it and fail then the posts would have been "why didn't we run? Portis or our 6'5" QB could have gotten the yard." Your decisions will be second guessed no matter what you do.

[SkinsKY]

What the hell; I said go for the field goal at the time...

First of all, it was officially a 49-yard field goal per the NFL gamebook.

Secondly, none of us (except maybe JTF, who I believe was at the game) watched pregame warmups to see how effective Shaun was kicking from that range. Part of the decision process is reflective on how well your kicker was doing in practice. Maybe he was lights-out? Who knows. What I do know is that he has been pretty damn good all season long.

Third, the severe underdog Redskins had a shot at a 10-point lead so they took it. The underdogs took a shot a putting points on the board, which is something you need to beat the Cowboys and their top offense. Quite frankly, so many of you are so upset with Gibbs that had he gone for it on 4th down and failed, you would have called for his head regardless.

Finally, missing the FG and giving the ball up on the 39 versus missing the 1st down and giving them the ball on the 32 realy wouldn't have mattered. The Cowboys constructed a 13-play drive that contained a handful of 3rd down completions against this defense; I find it hard to believe the extra 7 yards was going to stop them. And...my last point; this FG attempt had nothing to do with the outcome of the game. The game went on...Dallas still scored at will, and the Redskins' newly found passing attack fought its way for a chance to win. This wasn't a FG attempt or 1st down attepmt for the win. It seems that many of you are taking this loss out on this particular call, which really isn't fair.

At the time of the field goal, it was 7-0 and the defense was doing pretty well. None of us knew we were about to get torched like we did.
The average NFL play gains 4-5 yards. It's probably much higher (I'd call it 85% plays, but maybe more) gain more than one yard. A 50 yard FG from Suishamas, at best, 50%, even if he's kicking well in warmups. An 85% chance to get one yard, have a shot at seven points and, if all else fails, we still have a FG to fall back on. The percentages just aren't there to make it a profitable call long term. As you said, they could've had it at the 32, and that's not much different. The difference is not there. In one case, you're giving yourself a chance to earn maximum points from the possession. In the other you're taking a chance, that even if successful, doesn't gain you much cushion against a good offense. Failed attempts for either lose about the same, but a successful attempt for one far outstrips the other. And in a game where the difference was five points, seven would have been huge.

The loss isn't due to that call, but you have to score TDs against good offenses. It's the mentality that a FG is always the right call once you're in range. At least take a measurement and see how close (I believe it was less than a yard).

[dj_stouty]

At the time of the field goal, it was 7-0 and the defense was doing pretty well. None of us knew we were about to get torched like we did.
The average NFL play gains 4-5 yards. It's probably much higher (I'd call it 85% plays, but maybe more) gain more than one yard. A 50 yard FG from Suishamas, at best, 50%, even if he's kicking well in warmups. An 85% chance to get one yard, have a shot at seven points and, if all else fails, we still have a FG to fall back on. The percentages just aren't there to make it a profitable call long term. As you said, they could've had it at the 32, and that's not much different. The difference is not there. In one case, you're giving yourself a chance to earn maximum points from the possession. In the other you're taking a chance, that even if successful, doesn't gain you much cushion against a good offense. And in a game where the difference was five points, seven would have been huge.

The loss isn't due to that call, but you have to score TDs against good offenses. It's the mentality that a FG is always the right call once you're in range. At least take a measurement and see how close (I believe it was less than a yard).

I respect your opinion...as well as everyone elses who has looked over this call without bias. I personally have no beef with the FG call, as I think a 10 point lead on the road versus the best team in the NFC is a gift...but if I do have a beef with Gibbs/Al it was running it on 3rd down to put them in this position. I do have a problem with that.

[Keino]

I think you have to go for it. Besides the obvious point that the Kicker hasn't made one from that distance all year, missing on 4th & 1 would result in a better filed position for the defense than a missed FG. In addition, FGs are viewed by defenses and home fans as "Defensive Stands" and so with the opportunity to actually jump up 14 points (Or at least a higher % 3 point try), I think the smart thing to do is to try and go for it. It was less than 1 yard and making it would of taken the home crowd out of it and shifted momentum over to our side.

[openallnight]

I respect your opinion...as well as everyone elses who has looked over this call without bias. I personally have no beef with the FG call, as I think a 10 point lead on the road versus the best team in the NFC is a gift...but if I do have a beef with Gibbs/Al it was running it on 3rd down to put them in this position. I do have a problem with that.
That's my entire point. You ONLY run on 3rd and a long 4 IF you are playing in 2 down territory. It worked great we got into a very manageable 4th and less than a yard. Then it was as if we backed out of the original plan and decided to kick. It just didn't make sense.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

What the hell; I said go for the field goal at the time...

First of all, it was officially a 49-yard field goal per the NFL gamebook.

Secondly, none of us (except maybe JTF, who I believe was at the game) watched pregame warmups to see how effective Shaun was kicking from that range. Part of the decision process is reflective on how well your kicker was doing in practice. Maybe he was lights-out? Who knows. What I do know is that he has been pretty damn good all season long.

Third, the severe underdog Redskins had a shot at a 10-point lead so they took it. The underdogs took a shot a putting points on the board, which is something you need to beat the Cowboys and their top offense. Quite frankly, so many of you are so upset with Gibbs that had he gone for it on 4th down and failed, you would have called for his head regardless.

Finally, missing the FG and giving the ball up on the 39 versus missing the 1st down and giving them the ball on the 32 realy wouldn't have mattered. The Cowboys constructed a 13-play drive that contained a handful of 3rd down completions against this defense; I find it hard to believe the extra 7 yards was going to stop them. And...my last point; this FG attempt had nothing to do with the outcome of the game. The game went on...Dallas still scored at will, and the Redskins' newly found passing attack fought its way for a chance to win. This wasn't a FG attempt or 1st down attepmt for the win. It seems that many of you are taking this loss out on this particular call, which really isn't fair.
If Gibbs were to be fired/resign this very moment, I would be very happy, but I would not have criticized him if he had gone for it.
And you are right that that decision had little to do with losing the game. The second FG attempt on 4th and 1 late in the game was much worse IMO. And both are reflective of something that I have been saying since the very first week of the season. Gibbs coaches scared, and coaches not to lose. That inevitably results in a mediocre team. I have been saying that all along, regardless of a couple of extremely lucky wins against inferior teams (Jets, Dolphins, Cardinals), and guess where we are now? A mediocre 5-5.
I respect your opinion...as well as everyone elses who has looked over this call without bias. I personally have no beef with the FG call, as I think a 10 point lead on the road versus the best team in the NFC is a gift...but if I do have a beef with Gibbs/Al it was running it on 3rd down to put them in this position. I do have a problem with that.
Right after Gibbs decided to not go for it, I said (in the game thread) that that made the decision to run for it on 3rd down a stupid one. You run it on 3rd and 3 if you are in 4 down territory. If not go for the first down with a pass play (IMO).
But I think that having a 10 point lead at that point in the game means very little. Our defense collapses time and time again in the second half, so Gibbs and Co. should get their heads out of the sand, realize that, and try to score as many points as possible early on, instead of settling for FGs (especially if it's a 50 yarder..or a 49and a half yarder).

[openallnight]

At the time of the field goal, it was 7-0 and the defense was doing pretty well. None of us knew we were about to get torched like we did.


We allow most of our points in the 2nd half. By far the 4th quarter is our worst defensively. So far this season we're giving up 34 1st quarter points as opposed to 84 4th quarter points. To assume we're gonna continue shutting down a high powered offense in the 2nd half is naive thinking I'm afraid.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

I think you have to go for it. Besides the obvious point that the Kicker hasn't made one from that distance all year, missing on 4th & 1 would result in a better filed position for the defense than a missed FG. In addition, FGs are viewed by defenses and home fans as "Defensive Stands" and so with the opportunity to actually jump up 14 points (Or at least a higher % 3 point try), I think the smart thing to do is to try and go for it. It was less than 1 yard and making it would of taken the home crowd out of it and shifted momentum over to our side.
Whereas settling for the FG deflates your offense, pumps up their defense, and tells the whole stadium that you are afraid that your team can't get 1 yard when you need it.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

At the time of the field goal, it was 7-0 and the defense was doing pretty well. None of us knew we were about to get torched like we did.

Anybody who has been watching these last 4-5 games did. Our defense has been pathetic in the second half in each one of them.

[Oregonian]

We should have gone for it.

What also pissed me off about that series was that on the 3rd and 3 that preceeded the field goal try, we chose to run the ball. Right up the gut.

Not a typical play call on 3rd and 3.

[openallnight]

We should have gone for it.

What also pissed me off about that series was that on the 3rd and 3 that preceeded the field goal try, we chose to run the ball. Right up the gut.

Not a typical play call on 3rd and 3.

It is if you're planning on going for it on 4th down.

[Meatsnack]

In rivalry games, when you have momentum you do not let it go voluntarily for any reason. You keep your foot on their throat and go for the kill. That deep in their side of the field, you go for it up by 7 in their house with their bandwagon fan crowd threatening mutiny.

[Brokenstriker]

Might as well ask, "Play to win, or play not to lose?"

[Oregonian]

It is if you're planning on going for it on 4th down.


EXACTLY.

When we ran it on 3rd and 3, and made 2, I was mad, but then thought, "Oh, we are doing this planning to run again on 4th if we didn't make it."

3 yards on 2 carries- high percentage. 3 yards on 1 carry- not quite so high.

[oldskinfan]

On the Road
Against a team that scores a lot
Defense is banged up
If you miss the FG, Cowgirls get ball on 40
If you miss the 4th and 1, they get ball on 33
50 yds FG is 50/50 at BEST
YOU GO FOR IT!!!!!!

[Skins7ny]

I didn't vote because Monday morning quarterbacking is not for me. If we would have attempted to run and got stopped, all the posts would have been "conservative run call! why didn't we pass?" If we pass it and fail then the posts would have been "why didn't we run? Portis or our 6'5" QB could have gotten the yard." Your decisions will be second guessed no matter what you do.
True, but that doesn't excuse running on 3rd down and then kicking on 4th. I thought at the time that they should have passed on 3rd and 3, not run, but thought, OK, they are running, so this must mean that they will go for it on 4th down as well. I was thinking, all too briefly, that this was a sign that Gibbs was finally going to get more agressive. Then he summoned the FG unit out, much to my suprise and anger. He ran on 3rd down with the idea that he would kick the FG if he didn't get the 3 yards. That is the worst of all decisions-in that situation you pass!

That's my entire point. You ONLY run on 3rd and a long 4 IF you are playing in 2 down territory. It worked great we got into a very manageable 4th and less than a yard. Then it was as if we backed out of the original plan and decided to kick. It just didn't make sense.

Exactly! I disagree with running it on 3rd and 3, but it is only a defensible call if you know you are going to go for it on 4th-and-1. What Gibbs did makes no sense.

[SkinsKY]

We allow most of our points in the 2nd half. By far the 4th quarter is our worst defensively. So far this season we're giving up 34 1st quarter points as opposed to 84 4th quarter points. To assume we're gonna continue shutting down a high powered offense in the 2nd half is naive thinking I'm afraid.

All the more reason to go for the first and a TD then. That doesn't hurt my case.

[SkinsKY]

I respect your opinion...as well as everyone elses who has looked over this call without bias. I personally have no beef with the FG call, as I think a 10 point lead on the road versus the best team in the NFC is a gift...but if I do have a beef with Gibbs/Al it was running it on 3rd down to put them in this position. I do have a problem with that.

I definitely agree about the third down call. Very poor decision there. 10 points is a good lead, but I hate leaving TDs on the field. If we're closer inside of Suisham's range, I think the decision holds more weight, or if it's 4th and more than one. Maybe I'm just too aggressive.

[Skins3]

My thing is EVERY HEAD COACH EXCEPT ONE (OURS) at least gets a measurment here to see if it is 1inch or 36+ inches and no matter if you know what you are going to do it allows your entire team to rest and allows more time to allow for a play call

but lack of clock/game mangement skills is where this would fall under

[joethefan]

I didn't like it when it happened, and I still don't like it. We have to develop some type of go for the kill mentality, and it has to start from the top.

I agree kenny...being at the game, I felt immediately, we should have went for it, we were moving the ball.

[Jon Creveling]

When I joked in another thread about adding to staff an assistant head dash momentum coach part of me was only 1/2 joking. The way I saw it, we had moved the ball right up the field, we heard boos from the Dallas faithful, I saw on TV the Dallas players on the sidelines with an wtx look on their faces, they must have had prayers answered when Gibbs sent in Shaun, Lets just say for a second he does in fact make the FG? Ok it's 10-0 early, do you guys feel safe with that? I don't, not with this team. If you go for it and do in fact get the 1st and later in drive do score the TD you very well may send Dallas and their fans into a state of shock!!!!! (a)To add to it, maybe, just maybe Dallas and or Romo does not react to this in a good way and start to press? (b) second phase of my theory is that our own defense reacts to and feeds off of the long drive for a td and they find and keep there own Momentum! Romo reminds me of a stuntman in some ways and just maybe the dude comes unglued? I actually would have been surprised if he went for it seeing he kicked the fg in the Eagles game with the game on the line. Failing the balls to go for it and show your team you believe in them then why not punt it deep? Maybe if you do that Gurodes next snap is a deathwish ending up in a safety? I know this post is alot of what ifs and maybes but the thing is this, if you don't try it you don't find out.

[openallnight]

I agree kenny...being at the game, I felt immediately, we should have went for it, we were moving the ball.
Were you wearing a Campbell jersey and an old school leather helmet? If so I saw you on the Fox broadcast.

[guinness4health]

I would go for it, but instead of a QB sneek....I give the ball to the caveman, alet the boys try to stop him (if that is even possible)

[flave1969]

Guys this is symptomatic of this team under Gibbs.

In the same game we are down 21-13, we have 2nd and 1 at the Dallas 26.

We run two pass plays then kick a field goal. With 10.10 left in the game you need to keep the drive alive, get a fresh set of downs.

We have consistently got stuck in ruts of playcalling. I know running yards were tough to get on Sunday but we had to renew the downs.

Our playcalling leaves a lot to be desired. If you run on 3rd and 4, you are signalling that you are in 2 down territory, yet we dont go for it.

You have got to pound the ball if you are going to be successful and frankly we dont seem to have the balls.

At 5-5 it is time to stop playing the percentages when the risk is minimised as on the 4th and 1 and start going for it. Our coaches need to grow a set and start taking risks. We have to win out or at least go 5-1 if we are going to make the playoffs.

[flave1969]

Remember a couple years ago in our 14-13 win after Brunells scramble we had a 4th and 1 and we ran a neat little pass play for the first down. I would have love to have seen a play like that in this situation.

[Skins3]

remeber when sellers had like 7 TD's that one year catching 5 or 7 for like 1 yard gains everyone knew it was coming yet still didnt stop it

Gibbs OUTHINKS hisself

[Biggie]

remeber when sellers had like 7 TD's that one year catching 5 or 7 for like 1 yard gains everyone knew it was coming yet still didnt stop it

Gibbs OUTHINKS hisself
Remember how in the Detroit game, we'd give the ball to Sellers on 3rd and 1 and he got five?

I do.

[colkurtz]

The timid and questionable play calling is costing this team wins. This team just is not good enough to overcome that handicap.

If Gibbs had gone for it, I for one would have applauded that - REGARDLESS OF THE OUTCOME.

History favors the bold.

[youngestson]

Go for it.

I don't just say this in hindsight. I really prefer highly aggressive play from a team on the road against a strong oppoinent.

[Jon Creveling]

Remember a couple years ago in our 14-13 win after Brunells scramble we had a 4th and 1 and we ran a neat little pass play for the first down. I would have love to have seen a play like that in this situation.

Man it's funny you bring up that game, found myself thinking about it last week and based on Gibbs present day it almost came off to me that after the scramble Mark just said to hell with it and called his own plays. I realy have to wonder if that is what took place!

[Jon Creveling]

If Gibbs had gone for it, I for one would have applauded that - REGARDLESS OF THE OUTCOME.



It's the thought that counts! Show us something! Agree 100%. This is 3 weeks running that he went to mush, I even count the OT FG vs the Jets as wimping out.

[Spence]

Go for it. Easiest decision of the game.

[Aurej]

Needs to be "Mike Sellers under center" option. You don't think he can fall forward 3 feet?

[28thegreat]

Voted PUNT coz I was feeling sorry for it.

[redskin_rich]

Needs to be "Mike Sellers under center" option. You don't think he can fall forward 3 feet?

Maybe, as long as he doesn't try to launch himself.

[Oregonian]

The timid and questionable play calling is costing this team wins. This team just is not good enough to overcome that handicap.

Bingo.

[Syllable]

Not going for it, and letting them score was one of the worst decisions made that game.

[SkinsFanMania]

hindsight is 20/20. I think this early in the game you want to get the points and I agreed with going for the field goal. Dallas has a very good defense and could have stopped us just as easily as we missed the field goal.