'Bama Loss Like 9/11 and Pearl Harbor?

[RedskinRyan]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3120600

i honestly can not believe Saban has said this.

[WarEagle]

The national media has picked up this story. No great outrage here, just a realization that Alabama's coach is a really strange man. Did he steal the Pearl Harbor line from "Animal House?" lol

[thickskin]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3120600

i honestly can not believe Saban has said this.

why? what exactly do you disagree with? this is the latest in a pathetic trend in argumentation. 911 is salient in our cultural cosciousness, but god forbid anyone reference it. saban didn't make a comparison, or even an analogy. he made a point about group psychology, and then used well known examples to illustrate his point. if that espn article were the blurb on a reading comp section of a standarized test, the people who take offense at saban's comments wind up in remedial english, which explains why most sports journalists were up in arms.

[CNYSkinFan]

OMG!!! Seriously...you are defending this ridiculous comment by Saban? Seriously?

This is college football, relating 9-11 and pearl harbor to a game is just plain ridiculous.

[Keino]

I think it's silly to get outraged by stuff like this. Football is compared to War all the time. "The guys in the trenches and going into batttle" are phrases (among many) frequently uttered by Coaches, fans and media.

So he compared, or in Thicks view commented about group psycology (That sounded like BullPucky to me) to 2 national tragedies relative to war. Big deal. Not the best comparison, but nothing to get up in arms about either.

I swear, this nation collectively needs a tampon.

[CNYSkinFan]

I think it's silly to get outraged by stuff like this. Football is compared to War all the time. "The guys in the trenches and going into batttle" are phrases (among many) frequently uttered by Coaches, fans and media.

So he compared, or in Thicks view commented about group psycology (That sounded like BullPucky to me) to 2 national tragedies relative to war. Big deal. Not the best comparison, but nothing to get up in arms about either.

I swear, this nation collectively needs a tampon.
It is one thing to equate football to war in a generic sense, but to equate a loss with the same feelings as the loss felt after 9-11 and Pear Harbor is just assinine.

I am not saying he needs to be fired or even fined for it . But calling him out for making a stupid comment is not going overboard. The guy made a stupid comment, saying he did so is not overreacting IMO.

[smoak]

Saban is an idiot... What do you expect? Didn't he do a Pearl Harbor job on the Dolphins?

[Keino]

It is one thing to equate football to war in a generic sense, but to equate a loss with the same feelings as the loss felt after 9-11 and Pear Harbor is just assinine.

I am not saying he needs to be fired or even fined for it . But calling him out for making a stupid comment is not going overboard. The guy made a stupid comment, saying he did so is not overreacting IMO.

My point is that it's not newsworthy.

People say dumb stuff all the time.

[CNYSkinFan]

My point is that it's not newsworthy.

People say dumb stuff all the time.
ok point taken...but he said it at a press conference so it was bound to get some play

[Keino]

ok point taken...but he said it at a press conference so it was bound to get some play

Right, and he was capturing the feeling of his team.

Hell, I feel as bad today (almost) as I did after 9/11. That's probably not appropriate to feel that way, but that's what it is.

[thickskin]

It is one thing to equate football to war in a generic sense, but to equate a loss with the same feelings as the loss felt after 9-11 and Pear Harbor is just assinine.

I am not saying he needs to be fired or even fined for it . But calling him out for making a stupid comment is not going overboard. The guy made a stupid comment, saying he did so is not overreacting IMO.


he didn't "equate" them. that would be to say:

this loss is the same as the loss of 911.

nor did he say the feelings were the "same." that would be to say:

our trauma is identical to that of the 911 victims.

all he said was that often it takes great hardship to bring people together. pearl harbor and 911 brought america together as a nation. hopefully such a tough loss will bring the team together.

is was not an equation, not an analogy; it was an allusion.

[thickskin]

I think it's silly to get outraged by stuff like this. Football is compared to War all the time. "The guys in the trenches and going into batttle" are phrases (among many) frequently uttered by Coaches, fans and media.

So he compared, or in Thicks view commented about group psycology (That sounded like BullPucky to me) to 2 national tragedies relative to war. Big deal. Not the best comparison, but nothing to get up in arms about either.

I swear, this nation collectively needs a tampon.

i agree about the tampon, but again, it wasn't a comparison. if you'd said:

"this nation needs a tampon. someone sued mcdonalds bc their coffee was hot." you're not comparing cny's criticism to the mcdonalds guy. you're sayign that there's an epidemic of hair-trigger feigning of insincere outrage, then you're citing two examples. on hr, countless people have described sean taylor's death as "tragic." "tragedy" is a word often accompanying 911. the concept fits both events, but no one is claiming the degree of tragedsy is the same. i could say:

i get a bad feeling when peope are just going about their everyday business and sudden, random acts of violence sweep them away. it happened to sean taylor recently. a few years ago it happened to 3000 plyus people in ny.

call me crazy, but to me, that's not saying sean taylor's death is a tragedy on the level of the 911 attack.

[WarEagle]

Ease up, everybody. Puny Louisiana-Monroe had just taken the manhood of the great Crimson Tide. Nick might've understated the situation if anything. No team wants their manhood taken in their home stadium and held aloft on top of the emblem in the middle of the field. For all to see. Shiny and glistening in the sun...

[CNYSkinFan]

Ease up, everybody. Puny Louisiana-Monroe had just taken the manhood of the great Crimson Tide. Nick might've understated the situation if anything. No team wants their manhood taken in their home stadium and held aloft on top of the emblem in the middle of the field. For all to see. Shiny and glistening in the sun...
I take offense at Crimson-tide being called great :)