Gregg Remembered

[JoeDaSchmoe]

Yes. Yes. Yes.

Gregg Williams finally called a defensive game like he would have in '04/'05. He was aggressive as all hell. He blitzed on nearly every down. He sent blitz after blitz after blitz at Grossman and Griese, and the defense finally looked like it did three years ago.

I hope this is a sign of things to come. This is what he was doing when we were all desperate to keep him on the staff at all costs.

[JRudy]

I was giggling like a school girl everytime we blitzed!

[skinsfan45]

i was so glad to see the aggression back. long overdue:smash:

[CNYSkinFan]

he better keep doing it because our secondary Suuuuucks. Doughty is horrible, Eubanks and Torrence are so bad it makes me want to die. If Springs or Smoot miss serious time we are in serious trouble.

Better go with the he cant pass if he is on his back attitude.

But y0ou are right. GW called a decent game all around. I don't like that immediately after we go up 2 tds we give up 10 straight points, but we finally brought pressure and dictated terms to an offense instead of vice versa

[shally]

Yes. Yes. Yes.

Gregg Williams finally called a defensive game like he would have in '04/'05. He was aggressive as all hell. He blitzed on nearly every down. He sent blitz after blitz after blitz at Grossman and Griese, and the defense finally looked like it did three years ago.

I hope this is a sign of things to come. This is what he was doing when we were all desperate to keep him on the staff at all costs.

he still got kinda passive at the end (okay, he was making them milk the clock down... and landry should have had the game clincher)

but FG's represent decent defense.. and both berrian and hester are scary fast (wouldnt berrian look good in burgundy next year ???)

[shally]

he better keep doing it because our secondary Suuuuucks. Doughty is horrible, Eubanks and Torrence are so bad it makes me want to die. If Springs or Smoot miss serious time we are in serious trouble.

Better go with the he cant pass if he is on his back attitude.

But y0ou are right. GW called a decent game all around. I don't like that immediately after we go up 2 tds we give up 10 straight points, but we finally brought pressure and dictated terms to an offense instead of vice versa

i think doughty has promise as a Strong safety.. and how scary was that for eubanks to be locked up on hester ?
i think torrence tackles well, so i am not as down on the secondary as some

[CNYSkinFan]

i think doughty has promise as a Strong safety.. and how scary was that for eubanks to be locked up on hester ?
i think torrence tackles well, so i am not as down on the secondary as some
sorry not with you on Doughty...But I am being consistent, I have never really likd his game. Slow and small is no way to play safety in the NFL.

Eubanks really is disappointing me because I thought he could be a future nickle in the league. Torrence is fast and can tackle, after he lets a guy get a first down.

[shally]

sorry not with you on Doughty...But I am being consistent, I have never really likd his game. Slow and small is no way to play safety in the NFL.

Eubanks really is disappointing me because I thought he could be a future nickle in the league. Torrence is fast and can tackle, after he lets a guy get a first down.

doughty can tackle, but i agree he looks marginal at best..

torrence is going to get better and he will stick as a nickle at least.... eubanks looked lost or beaten most of the time but maybe his hammy is still not right ??

still hoping westbrook makes a leap in the off season

[SkinsfaninNJ]

doughty can tackle, but i agree he looks marginal at best..

torrence is going to get better and he will stick as a nickle at least.... eubanks looked lost or beaten most of the time but maybe his hammy is still not right ??

still hoping westbrook makes a leap in the off season

I think Doughty had a good game tonight and said so in the game thread. I'm not sold that he can't be a starter in this league. He showed me something tonight in a game that asked a lot of our secondary.

[shally]

I think Doughty had a good game tonight and said so in the game thread. I'm not sold that he can't be a starter in this league. He showed me something tonight in a game that asked a lot of our secondary.

he does like to hit people and his tackling looked secure

he cant have been getting very many reps up to the last couple of games, and there simply is no way for anyone to fill sean's shoes..

he is going to have to make up for his limited physical ability with smarts

[SkinKing]

Yes. Yes. Yes.

Gregg Williams finally called a defensive game like he would have in '04/'05. He was aggressive as all hell. He blitzed on nearly every down. He sent blitz after blitz after blitz at Grossman and Griese, and the defense finally looked like it did three years ago.

I hope this is a sign of things to come. This is what he was doing when we were all desperate to keep him on the staff at all costs.

I wish all of you would get off his back in the first place. He blitzes QB's when he knows they can't hurt us. He isn't gonna blitz Favre, Kitna, Brady. He will blitz Grossman, Clemons, Griese. See a pattern???

[give_portis_the_rock]

Yes. Yes. Yes.

Gregg Williams finally called a defensive game like he would have in '04/'05. He was aggressive as all hell. He blitzed on nearly every down. He sent blitz after blitz after blitz at Grossman and Griese, and the defense finally looked like it did three years ago.

I hope this is a sign of things to come. This is what he was doing when we were all desperate to keep him on the staff at all costs.

Well Sean is gone, and he was the whole reason we could play that soft zone. So he has no choice but to blitz.

[JoeDaSchmoe]

I wish all of you would get off his back in the first place. He blitzes QB's when he knows they can't hurt us. He isn't gonna blitz Favre, Kitna, Brady. He will blitz Grossman, Clemons, Griese. See a pattern???

Oh, believe me, it hasn't been hard to see a pattern for most of the season when he literally called the same play every snap.

[MPCSkins]

WE GOT PRESSURE. Wow. That's what it looks like when we pressure a QB. Can we please do it again?

[hail2skins]

I wish all of you would get off his back in the first place. He blitzes QB's when he knows they can't hurt us. He isn't gonna blitz Favre, Kitna, Brady. He will blitz Grossman, Clemons, Griese. See a pattern???IMO this is dumb logic. Favre makes mistakes when he's blitzed, so does Kitna. These qb's are also known for picking you apart when they get time.

[MPCSkins]

IMO this is dumb logic. Favre makes mistakes when he's blitzed, so does Kitna. These qb's are also known for picking you apart when they get time.

Brady also had one of his worse games against the blitzes that the Ravens bring last week and I think it should be pretty similar to how the Steelers blitz him this weekend.

[give_portis_the_rock]

Brady also had one of his worse games against the blitzes that the Ravens bring last week and I think it should be pretty similar to how the Steelers blitz him this weekend.

Can't wait to see that (... censored ...) eat some dirt...

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

I wish all of you would get off his back in the first place. He blitzes QB's when he knows they can't hurt us. He isn't gonna blitz Favre, Kitna, Brady. He will blitz Grossman, Clemons, Griese. See a pattern???
Mmm... what? The Cowboys blitzed Favre, and he didn't finish the game. Brady has looked mortal only when is blitzed. Kitna does stupid things when he is blitzed (see Vikes).

Do you remember what Brady did to our defense or did you just block it from your memory?

[Hr fan]

Yes. Yes. Yes.

Gregg Williams finally called a defensive game like he would have in '04/'05. He was aggressive as all hell. He blitzed on nearly every down. He sent blitz after blitz after blitz at Grossman and Griese, and the defense finally looked like it did three years ago.

I hope this is a sign of things to come. This is what he was doing when we were all desperate to keep him on the staff at all costs.

IMO this reflects JG's shock over the game mismanagement Sunday. Both Saunders and Gregg had a lot more leeway than they have shown this year to date. JG has been running scared (all games will be close and tough, negative any way you look at it), and his heavy hand has affected the D (drop 7 deep, LB 8-10 yds off the line of scrimmage and Ss so deep they need a ticket to see the play) and O (4th qtr conservatism with disastrous results). Hopefully he will continue to allow agression, our best chance despite week-to-week results.

[PennSkinsFan]

I think most of it was GW did not fear either Griese or Grossman.

[akhhorus]

I think most of it was GW did not fear either Griese or Grossman.

The only Qbs a "genius" Defensive coordinator should be afraid of should be named Tom and Peyton.

[Red Bear]

he better keep doing it because our secondary Suuuuucks. Doughty is horrible, Eubanks and Torrence are so bad it makes me want to die. If Springs or Smoot miss serious time we are in serious trouble.

Better go with the he cant pass if he is on his back attitude.

But y0ou are right. GW called a decent game all around. I don't like that immediately after we go up 2 tds we give up 10 straight points, but we finally brought pressure and dictated terms to an offense instead of vice versa

i disagree with some of this. Eubanks was horrible, but Doughty is not. i think Doughty is developing nicely for a 2nd year safety out of AA college ball. other than his first start vs dallas he has been solid and he tackles well. Torrence is also another player who was thrust into major action this year and is learning on the fly who i think has played decently for us and is also a good tackler and has the speed to make up for some of his mistakes. we finally have some young cheap depth who are showing they have an upside yet you continue on your vendetta against our late round picks and undrafted players. while doughty and torrence are young and will make some mistakes, its also time to give some praise where its due as far as their progression

[skinsfan36]

the blitz was nice and i like what i saw from the defense today. eubanks on hestr made me nervous. i disagree with you guys doughty is decent,and torrence is a good dime back thrust into the nickel(when smoot was puking blood he was 2nd) now eubanks ehhh idk id like to see what westbrook can do why not cut macklin since hes inactive every game and let him paly a few plays. still wouldnt mind a 3rd rd corner next yr even if springs stays

[firehawk157]

I don't see why everyone is so down on Doughty. I saw him playing well in the SS role (since his lack of speed precludes success at FS) and he is a sure tackler with moderate coverage abilities. We're too spoilt, expecting every position to have somebody who can cover half the field, light a guy up and take back an INT or fumble for a TD. Doughty is a okay with the upside to be decent. No, he's never going to make the pro-bowl but we don't need a pro-bowler at every position. We need a couple of game-changers and the rest just guys we can rely on to make a tackle and cover a TE. He's cheap cap-wise too.

[Skinz4lyfe]

There's the GW I've been waiting for all year. Let's hope this trend continues and we still need to add another DB to the mix. One with experience. I suspect we'll give a call to Mr. Stoutmire pretty soon to take JC's roster spot if he's put on IR.

[guess88]

I suspect we'll give a call to Mr. Stoutmire pretty soon to take JC's roster spot if he's put on IR.

Not a bad option. I was thinking of picking up a QB, but it's so late in the season that if it came to that point, we're finished anyway. Just God forbid Collins gets hurt, and we have Brunnell lining up behind center again.

[Bill Malinchak]

I'm not sure why you are so down on Reed Doughty. I was at the game and kept an eye on his play, most of which you can't see on the telecast.

They had Doughty matched up against the TE all night and he made the right calls on whether to cover or clog up a hole in run support. He defended the pass well and made sure tackles. I'm not sure how you could fault his performance.

I thought the secondary played well as a whole. The corners were left on an island all night due to the frequent blitzing. If not for some great, circus catches by Bears receivers, the Bears passing stats would be pretty poor.

I don't go to many games but you sure do get a good look at what the secondary is doing as opposed to the telecast of the game.

[JoeDaSchmoe]

Bill (and others), I don't think there's any way that Doughty can be criticized for how he played yesterday. He was very solid. But I believe the concerns of myself and others reside in what we've seen out of Doughty in camp and in the preseason - he's just not that fast. Alarmingly so, really, for a defensive back. Now, this won't matter so much if he's up at the line to stop the run or covering slower tight ends, but if he ends up man-to-man on some of the better tight ends in the league, he's gonna be toast.

That said, he played well yesterday. Props to him. I hope that he proved us doubters wrong - but if he doesn't, there's a safety coming out of a certain Bostonian College that we might be able to pick up in the second round.... ;)

[greatest2]

you would think when we were healthy with Carlos at one corner, Springs at the other, Smoot in there at nickle, Taylor at safety and Landry he would blitz like he did last game. I mean having Taylor back there springs and carlos man up and landry blitz is much better then our situation thursday night.

My question is, when GW had the great talent to blitz he didn't do it. When we have less talent (Reed blitz, landry playin free safety, etc.) he decides to blitz. Seems odd to me, he shoulda been like this from the start of the season because we had the talent to do it.