Playoff Rooting Card: Week 16

[CNYSkinFan]

Ok I have done this week's playoff rooting card. And for you poker players, I broke our chances down poker style.

Read the article here:

http://www.hailredskins.com/?p=332

and you can comment on this in this thread.

[Santheb]

Ok I have done this week's playoff rooting card. And for you poker players, I broke our chances down poker style.

Read the article here:

http://www.hailredskins.com/?p=332

and you can comment on this in this thread.

Thanks CNY. I was looking forward to this, I actually checked to see if you had posted it like 20 minutes ago, haha. It's like CliffsNotes for the Redskins' playoff hopes!

[NamVet4]

Nice work CNYSkinFan! This is the "N F L" - Not For Long - League...it's all a one and done scenario... Our Beloved Team needs to win the remaining two games... one loss = one and done!

[wewantdallas]

I think the only way we get in (assuming we win out, of course), is if the Giants lose their last two. That is our best hope. They are actually playing teams who should have something to play for: Buffalo is in the playoff hunt and needs this win desperately, and hopefully New England will still be playing for the perfect season.

There's little hope of the Saints losing. Philly COULD beat them, but now that they've been eliminated, they might mail it in. Chicago is downright horrific. The Saints will probably roll through their next two games.

So, pull for Buffalo and the Patriots big time this weekend. It is our only hope...

[CNYSkinFan]

Buffalo is actually eliminated from the playoff race I believe due to their loss this last week. But the players are playing for jobs, espescially the qbs. And they are at home. So hopefully they will still play with a sense of pride...and if the Bills get up early the Giants will start pressing.

[shally]

I think the only way we get in (assuming we win out, of course), is if the Giants lose their last two. That is our best hope. They are actually playing teams who should have something to play for: Buffalo is in the playoff hunt and needs this win desperately, and hopefully New England will still be playing for the perfect season.

There's little hope of the Saints losing. Philly COULD beat them, but now that they've been eliminated, they might mail it in. Chicago is downright horrific. The Saints will probably roll through their next two games.

So, pull for Buffalo and the Patriots big time this weekend. It is our only hope...

mcnabb has something to prove.. westbrook is playing for a bigger contract.
they will show up

chicago will beat no one as long as orton is the qb.. what a waste last night. with either griese or rex they would have beaten the vikings

buffalo still has an outside shot, so it remains to be seen which giant team shows up

we need to take care of the vikes. the rest will fall into place if we do...

[PA Skins Girl]

Go Eagles! Go Cowboys!

May God forgive me.

[wewantdallas]

Buffalo is actually eliminated from the playoff race I believe due to their loss this last week. But the players are playing for jobs, espescially the qbs. And they are at home. So hopefully they will still play with a sense of pride...and if the Bills get up early the Giants will start pressing.

Yep, you're right. That's what I get for listening to the resident Bills fan here at work. He said they control their own destiny. I guess that's true if he's talking about where they'll be deciding to watch the playoffs.

That stinks - at least it's in Buffalo. Hopefully it'll snow.

[shally]

Yep, you're right. That's what I get for listening to the resident Bills fan here at work. He said they control their own destiny. I guess that's true if he's talking about where they'll be deciding to watch the playoffs.

That stinks - at least it's in Buffalo. Hopefully it'll snow.

their d line gave our o line fits... more than almost anyone else this year.
if they can bring that kind of pressure against eli they have a solid chance

[Smiley]

This week is a playoff game for us. Go Redskins! Hail!!

[shally]

This week is a playoff game for us. Go Redskins! Hail!!

in every sense of the word

[skinsfan36]

we have to treat each game as elimination we must win this week for sure though!

[Skaggsrules]

I also kinda want GB to lose this week, though they won't lose to the Bears again....Dallas gets their home field, and doesn't have to play their starters long, let them rest and it'll be easier to beat them

[shally]

I also kinda want GB to lose this week, though they won't lose to the Bears again....Dallas gets their home field, and doesn't have to play their starters long, let them rest and it'll be easier to beat them

with orton, and with adrian peterson (the lesser) and with an aging and porous offensive line the bears might be the worst offensive team in the nfl right now.

no chance if GB just shows up

[NCskinsfanatic]

I'm still concerened we may miss the playoffs, although I hope I'm wrong. I dont see NY losing to Buffalo but they'll lose to NE. I also think that Philly can beat NO but Chi can't. That would mean we need to beat Minny(possible I suppose) and then beat Dallas(not so sure). Thing is with Philly beating them, Dallas will probably be trying to secure home field advantage and nothing has changed about our secondary since they torched it last time and we dont have the more mobile JC at QB either...

[openallnight]

, Dallas will probably be trying to secure home field advantage and nothing has changed about our secondary since they torched it last time and we dont have the more mobile JC at QB either...

Our defensive game plan, cover 2 zone, against the cowboys was an admitted mistake by GW. He will play owens exactly how he played burress last week. Man coverage with safety help. I'm not saying we'll beat dallas here but, owens will definitely not do what he did last time, not even close.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Our defensive game plan, cover 2 zone, against the cowboys was an admitted mistake by GW. He will play owens exactly how he played burress last week. Man coverage with safety help. I'm not saying we'll beat dallas here but, owens will definitely not do what he did last time, not even close.

I must have missed that disclosure from GW, thanks for the insight...

[skinsfan36]

Our defensive game plan, cover 2 zone, against the cowboys was an admitted mistake by GW. He will play owens exactly how he played burress last week. Man coverage with safety help. I'm not saying we'll beat dallas here but, owens will definitely not do what he did last time, not even close.

glad to hear he admitted that,because it was painful to watch

[CNYSkinFan]

i for one do not want Dallas scrubs when we play them. I want to take their soul from them. Seriously. I want them to come into our house with us fighting for the playoffs and they wanting to get homefield advantage. I want rip their heart out and show it to them before they die.

[shally]

i for one do not want Dallas scrubs when we play them. I want to take their soul from them. Seriously. I want them to come into our house with us fighting for the playoffs and they wanting to get homefield advantage. I want rip their heart out and show it to them before they die.

true.. that would be the best of all worlds.. but i would take a solid win against their scrubs that gets us into the playoffs as opposed to a heartbreaker against their first team.. a win is a win

but first let's smite the vikings and send the rest of the league a message..

[redskin_rich]

true.. that would be the best of all worlds.. but i would take a solid win against their scrubs that gets us into the playoffs as opposed to a heartbreaker against their first team.. a win is a win

but first let's smite the vikings and send the rest of the league a message..
Yeah, to be honest, I'm more concerned with the Vikes than the Cowboys. The Vikings have the ability to dominate us in the middle, on both lines and Peterson is exactly the kind of back that can do the most damage to us.

Running the ball and stopping the run will be our hardest tasks in that game. It should be a real slugfest.

[Hr fan]

Forget Dallass. WE NEED TO WIN THIS WEEK, and it will be anything but easy. For this week, pray that Buf plays like it did against Dallass, the NYG continue Coughlin's and Manning's late season woes, Philly discovers some road magic, and that the press this week fires up Romo enough to win. THEN on to Dallass.

[CNYSkinFan]

I love this site that JLC put in his bloig (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/)

http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NFL/NFC/East/Redskins.html

basically it is for math nerds and probability geeks (like me).

Here is the skinny:

We go 2-0 and we have an 81% chance of making the playoffs
We go 1-1 and it is less then 5% chance for us to get in.

It also shows, once again the most important game, besides our own, is the Saints game (playing the Eagles), followed by Giants (playing the bills) and then Carolina (playing Dallas)

[CNYSkinFan]

In cas your wondering how they rank the teams playofff chances at this point, here it goes:

Giants 92.5%
Vikings 58.2%
Saints 24.4%
Redskins 22.7%
Panthers 2.2%

Now this is just based on probability, not the liklihood of wheteher it will happen. So in there mind It is just as likely as the Redskins will win a particular game, tie a game, or lose a game. It is interesting nonetheless

[SpicyMcHaggis]

I love this site that JLC put in his bloig (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/)

http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NFL/NFC/East/Redskins.html

basically it is for math nerds and probability geeks (like me).

Here is the skinny:

We go 2-0 and we have an 81% chance of making the playoffs
We go 1-1 and it is less then 5% chance for us to get in.

It also shows, once again the most important game, besides our own, is the Saints game (playing the Eagles), followed by Giants (playing the bills) and then Carolina (playing Dallas)
The one thing I don't like about that program is that in no way does it consider the strenght of the teams involved in the game. Example: according to the program, New England would have the same chance of beating the Dolphins as the Dolphins would of beating New England. That just is not the case.

[CNYSkinFan]

The one thing I don't like about that program is that in no way does it consider the strenght of the teams involved in the game. Example: according to the program, New England would have the same chance of beating the Dolphins as the Dolphins would of beating New England. That just is not the case.
not only that, ties are equally as probablye as wins and losses, though ties rarely happen....

but still it is kind of neat, espescially when determining which game other then the Redskin game is the most important.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

not only that, ties are equally as probablye as wins and losses, though ties rarely happen....

but still it is kind of neat, espescially when determining which game other then the Redskin game is the most important.
Yeah, that's true. But I'm still convinced that the Giants don't have anywhere near a 90+% chance of making the playoffs.

[CNYSkinFan]

Yeah, that's true. But I'm still convinced that the Giants don't have anywhere near a 90+% chance of making the playoffs.
Well if they win against an inferior buffalo team (at least on paper) they get in...

But as I have said all along,. I think it is just as likely the Giants lose both of their next 2 games as the Saints losing one of them.

BUT we still need to win out against a very good Vikings squad and A Dallas squad playing for homefield advantage. So us winning out I put at about 25%, but weirder things have happened.

All I know for sure is if we lose to the Vikings we are out, if We beat the Vikings we are alive.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Well if they win against an inferior buffalo team (at least on paper) they get in...

But as I have said all along,. I think it is just as likely the Giants lose both of their next 2 games as the Saints losing one of them.

BUT we still need to win out against a very good Vikings squad and A Dallas squad playing for homefield advantage. So us winning out I put at about 25%, but weirder things have happened.

All I know for sure is if we lose to the Vikings we are out, if We beat the Vikings we are alive.
Yes, that's true. But since I think that the Giants have about a 1% chance of beating the Pats, they would have to have a 90+% chance of beating the Bills, which I don't think they have. I think it's much closer to 50% actually.

[CNYSkinFan]

Yes, that's true. But since I think that the Giants have about a 1% chance of beating the Pats, they would have to have a 90+% chance of beating the Bills, which I don't think they have. I think it's much closer to 50% actually.
but the giants can still get into the playoffs if they lose both of their last games if We or the saints lose one of their last 2. The Giants are definitely in the strongest position despite being

[CNYSkinFan]

Again, just for laughs. Here are the games that matter this weekend and the line on them (Bolded is who we need to win).

Dallas @ Carolina (+10.5)

New Orleans @ Philadelphia (+3)

New York Giants @ Buffalo (+3)

Minnesota @ Washington (+6.5)

At least Philly and Buffalo are getting shots at the game according to Vegas, maybe not us, but that is ok, we were 4.5 point dogs last week

[bergiemoore]

Go Eagles! Go Cowboys!

May God forgive me.


I feel dirty.....

[CNYSkinFan]

I feel dirty.....
Imagine how I feel...I have the Eagles and Cowboys to root for, but for some reason i have always hated the Bills, well actually Buffalo in general. And I have to root for them this weekend too, at least it is against Elisha

[Redskin4Life]

Again, just for laughs. Here are the games that matter this weekend and the line on them (Bolded is who we need to win).

Dallas @ Carolina (+10.5)

New Orleans @ Philadelphia (+3)

New York Giants @ Buffalo (+3)

Minnesota @ Washington (+6.5)

At least Philly and Buffalo are getting shots at the game according to Vegas, maybe not us, but that is ok, we were 4.5 point dogs last week

CNY, I was thinking about this last night.... wouldn't it make more sense that we root for Carolina? It's pretty obvious at this point that we couldn't get into the playoffs with an 8-8 record if we lost to the Vikings. But a loss to the Cowboys, there's still a chance.... only that the Saints would get in over us with a win against the Eagles or Bears.

Okay, so here's the part that troubles me with the Dallas-Carolina game. If Dallas wins, they still have something to play for in the Skins game. If they lose Saturday, the Packers would have a game lead and home field advantage. More than likely Fox will make our game the 4p game while the Pack would play at 1p. So by kickoff at Fedex, Dallas would know if they have a shot of playing for home field or not.... and if they need to rest their starters or not. Now if Dallas wins against Carolina and the Pack wins out, then they would have to play their starters and play to win in two weeks.

So shouldn't we root for Carolina?

[bergiemoore]

CNY, I was thinking about this last night.... wouldn't it make more sense that we root for Carolina? It's pretty obvious at this point that we couldn't get into the playoffs with an 8-8 record if we lost to the Vikings. But a loss to the Cowboys, there's still a chance.... only that the Saints would get in over us with a win against the Eagles or Bears.

Okay, so here's the part that troubles me with the Dallas-Carolina game. If Dallas wins, they still have something to play for in the Skins game. If they lose Saturday, the Packers would have a game lead and home field advantage. More than likely Fox will make our game the 4p game while the Pack would play at 1p. So by kickoff at Fedex, Dallas would know if they have a shot of playing for home field or not.... and if they need to rest their starters or not. Now if Dallas wins against Carolina and the Pack wins out, then they would have to play their starters and play to win in two weeks.

So shouldn't we root for Carolina?

I'd rather root for the Bears to beat Green Bay, but since that ain't gonna happen....

[CNYSkinFan]

CNY, I was thinking about this last night.... wouldn't it make more sense that we root for Carolina? It's pretty obvious at this point that we couldn't get into the playoffs with an 8-8 record if we lost to the Vikings. But a loss to the Cowboys, there's still a chance.... only that the Saints would get in over us with a win against the Eagles or Bears.

Okay, so here's the part that troubles me with the Dallas-Carolina game. If Dallas wins, they still have something to play for in the Skins game. If they lose Saturday, the Packers would have a game lead and home field advantage. More than likely Fox will make our game the 4p game while the Pack would play at 1p. So by kickoff at Fedex, Dallas would know if they have a shot of playing for home field or not.... and if they need to rest their starters or not. Now if Dallas wins against Carolina and the Pack wins out, then they would have to play their starters and play to win in two weeks.

So shouldn't we root for Carolina?
Dallas willl be playing for the top seed no matter what....and in my thinking they are going tp play us hard no matter what. This is the Cowboys and they do have a chacne at knocking us out, they are going to take it. Remember, we knocked them out in 2005.

Carolina has a better nfc record. If we want anykind of leeway we need them eliminated. IF they beat the Cowboys they face Tampa Bay with truly nothing left to play for. If we falter to Dallas, we can not afford to have the Saints and Carolina with tiebreakers over us

[CNYSkinFan]

That and if Dallas wins, then Gren Bay would have to lose to Chicago to give them the homefield clinch

I actually think there is no chance the bears win again this season (which is why I want the Eagles to beat the saints sooooo bad).

In my mind, I have made peace with the fact Dallas is coming to our house nto play for homefield advanatage, So we will have to win against their best. That is fine, because otherwise why make the playoffs anyways? We might as well beat the Cowboys then because if we dont feel we can beat each team in the playoffs, what is the point?

[Redskin4Life]

That and if Dallas wins, then Gren Bay would have to lose to Chicago to give them the homefield clinch

I actually think there is no chance the bears win again this season (which is why I want the Eagles to beat the saints sooooo bad).

In my mind, I have made peace with the fact Dallas is coming to our house nto play for homefield advanatage, So we will have to win against their best. That is fine, because otherwise why make the playoffs anyways? We might as well beat the Cowboys then because if we dont feel we can beat each team in the playoffs, what is the point?
While it's true that we should want them at their best and beat them, wouldn't it make more sense to win and get in? I mean the whole point of this thread is to root for the teams that give us the best chance of getting in. If Dallas loses home field this weekend, then Dallas will pull their starters in the second half of our last game. That's better for us than Dallas playing their best all game long.... especially against our depleted D.

And about trying to get in with an 8-8 record, it's just not going to happen. We would have to beat the Vikings AND have the Panthers lose one AND have the Saints lose TWO games. That's a lot to have go our way.... it would be an easier road with trying to get two wins and hope the Saints lose to Philly. So I'll be rooting for the Panthers...

[CNYSkinFan]

While it's true that we should want them at their best and beat them, wouldn't it make more sense to win and get in? I mean the whole point of this thread is to root for the teams that give us the best chance of getting in. If Dallas loses home field this weekend, then Dallas will pull their starters in the second half of our last game. That's better for us than Dallas playing their best all game long.... especially against our depleted D.

And about trying to get in with an 8-8 record, it's just not going to happen. We would have to beat the Vikings AND have the Panthers lose one AND have the Saints lose TWO games. That's a lot to have go our way.... it would be an easier road with trying to get two wins and hope the Saints lose to Philly. So I'll be rooting for the Panthers...
go ahead...but I think it is silly to hope that Dallas will not play it's starters versus us, no matter what.

IN my opinion hoping a team does not pplay it's starters is not part of the equation. I want to give the redskins the best possible chances to get into the playoffs, that means, theis week, hoping Carolina gets eliminated, The saints get a loss, and the Giants get a loss and we win. That gives us the greater odds going into next week.

There simply is no guarantee that Dallas will sit their starters, period. I rather take the sure thing and put the Redskins in the best position.

[Redskin4Life]

go ahead...but I think it is silly to hope that Dallas will not play it's starters versus us, no matter what.

IN my opinion hoping a team does not pplay it's starters is not part of the equation. I want to give the redskins the best possible chances to get into the playoffs, that means, theis week, hoping Carolina gets eliminated, The saints get a loss, and the Giants get a loss and we win. That gives us the greater odds going into next week.

There simply is no guarantee that Dallas will sit their starters, period. I rather take the sure thing and put the Redskins in the best position.
Fair enough and point taken. I still believe they will rest their starters cause their in the playoffs either way (in '05 if we didn't beat them, we would have been out so that example doesn't work). And I'll still be rooting for the Panthers this weekend...:Peace:

Hopefully, it won't matter cause we'll have taken care of business on our end... :beer:

[CNYSkinFan]

More fun playoff tools....the NFC playoff calculator is here:

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/nfl/playoffs/

pretty neat if you don't want to go through all the tiebreakers and just want to play what if

[give_portis_the_rock]

The Redskins need to win out and get lots of help,

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7581500

Since when was New Orleans losing one of their remaining games "lots of help?"

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7581500

Since when was New Orleans losing one of their remaining games "lots of help?"
Well, since they face the helpless Bears and the already eliminated Eagles

[give_portis_the_rock]

Well, since they face the helpless Bears and the already eliminated Eagles

We got the Giants too. Buffalo is a good team, and NE may be playing for 16-0. There is a good chance they'll lose out. In any case it's not "lots of help."

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

We got the Giants too. Buffalo is a good team, and NE may be playing for 16-0. There is a good chance they'll lose out. In any case it's not "lots of help."
Well, the Bills are also eliminated... I think the Giants have just the same chance to win 1, that the Saints have to win 2. I'm really rooting for the Bills this week, though, I think it's our best shot (assuming the Pats will win next)

[skinsfan36]

i hope th eagles beat the saints the panthers are terrible at home so i dont expect much out of them and buffalo will be ready for nyg

[BostonSkins]

I know this is no revelation, but I really, really want to watch tomorrow night's game with the Saints or Giants having lost. It would just make the time from 4:00 - 8:15 that much more enjoyable and less stressful.

Are we all in agreement that the Bills have the best chance to win tomorrow of the two? I think they do.

[chrisbcbu]

I know this is no revelation, but I really, really want to watch tomorrow night's game with the Saints or Giants having lost. It would just make the time from 4:00 - 8:15 that much more enjoyable and less stressful.

Are we all in agreement that the Bills have the best chance to win tomorrow of the two? I think they do.

Well considering the Eagles just came off a win against the Girls i think they have a really good shot at taking the Saints.

[BostonSkins]

Well considering the Eagles just came off a win against the Girls i think they have a really good shot at taking the Saints.

Yah, but that was a division game. It's going to be tough for them to get up like that 2 weeks in a row on the road. I just never know what to expect from the Eagles, some weeks they look great and other weeks they look terrible. But I guess every team in the NFC is like that except DAL and GB.

[CNYSkinFan]

well you can't ask for much better then what happened last night. carolina is out, dallas coul wrap up homefield if GB loses. and to is out with an injury so dallas may think twice about playing starters next week.

now we really need a win by buffalo & esgles. but also in my mind the pats needto win so they are playing for perfection next week.

[tbfoster1]

Yah, but that was a division game. It's going to be tough for them to get up like that 2 weeks in a row on the road. I just never know what to expect from the Eagles, some weeks they look great and other weeks they look terrible. But I guess every team in the NFC is like that except DAL and GB.

I like the Eagles chances. They've pretty close in most of their games, kind of like us. The question is, Do they want to play spoiler? or Are they just going to lay down and call it a season?

[Farmer Ted]

Yah, but that was a division game. It's going to be tough for them to get up like that 2 weeks in a row on the road. I just never know what to expect from the Eagles, some weeks they look great and other weeks they look terrible. But I guess every team in the NFC is like that except DAL and GB.

The eagles may want revenge for their playoff loss last year. I see them winning.

[CNYSkinFan]

I think the eagles are going to play hard because Reid and McNabb are playing for their jobs IMO. I would notg want to play the eagles in the last few weeks of the season

[NCskinsfanatic]

I think the eagles are going to play hard because Reid and McNabb are playing for their jobs IMO. I would notg want to play the eagles in the last few weeks of the season

Yeah I think philly will win, my hope is that NY loses too but if we dont take care of business it's really a mute point.

[WisconsinRedskins]

Giants are really, really bad. If they win today, with the way they look so far, they'll escape with a close win.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Giants are really, really bad. If they win today, with the way they look so far, they'll escape with a close win.
Certainly the Buffalo Special Teams want to make this a close game

[WisconsinRedskins]

Certainly the Buffalo Special Teams want to make this a close game

Their run defense too, I guess.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Their run defense too, I guess.
Whitner took a horrible angle on the TD play after commiting a Roughing the Kicker on 4th down. Awful. Plays before, stupid Moorman didn't punt when he could have.

[higgybaby]

what happens if the giants win and the saints lose?

[IMALILTEAPOT]

what happens if the giants win and the saints lose?

the giants are in the playoffs, and the saints are behind us in the tie breaker if we win tonight. its a good thing if they lose, that means we just need to focus on these 2 games

[Dept_of_Defense]

what happens if the giants win and the saints lose?

If the Giants win they're in the playoffs regardless of whatever else happens. If the Saints lose to the Eagles today and we win tonight against Minny and next week against Dallas, we're in. If we lose tonight, we're eliminated. The Saints have to lose 1 of their next 2 games and we have to win out and we're in.

[IMALILTEAPOT]

wow...so far everything we need is happening *knock on wood* plus GB is about to lose to chi, so the game next week wont mean anything for the cowgirls, so they might rest sum starters. LETS WIN TONIGHT BABY!

[Redskin4Life]

wow...so far everything we need is happening *knock on wood* plus GB is about to lose to chi, so the game next week wont mean anything for the cowgirls, so they might rest sum starters. LETS WIN TONIGHT BABY!
I guess you spoke too soon... well at least about the Giants. Now, it's up to Philly to make sure they can keep this lead. If they can, we can control our own destiny.

[redskinz#1fan]

Not unless Philly goes and sits down on the bench for the rest of their game, it looks like we control our own destiny!!!


Time to show people what we're all about!!! Lets go Skins!!


HTTR!!!!

[shally]

no one to root for except the redskins..

win and we are in. lose to minny and we go home.. it's our first playoff game today

[Skinsfan1311]

no one to root for except the redskins..

win and we are in. lose to minny and we go home.. it's our first playoff game today

Agreed....except our last 2 games have been playoff games.....

[oldskinfan]

win and we are in. lose to minny and we go home.. it's our first playoff game today

U are right Shally.
Philly did us a big favor. Chicago also made next week meaningless for the Cowgirls. Would have been nice to see the Gints go down though - would have set them up to be eliminated by the Pats and maybe taken a bit of an edge off the Vikings. Then again, maybe Jackson will turn the ball over again under pressure.

Go Skins. I will be on the edge of my seat tonight.

[DCassain21]

man seeing the saints lose makes me so pumped up, i cant wait for the game tonight, lets go SKINS

[RedskinsDave]

This team controls it's own destiny. Let's see how this plays out.

[OCSKINSFAN]

By my analysis, the Skins have to win tonight or they are eliminated.

[WisconsinRedskins]

By my analysis, the Skins have to win tonight or they are eliminated.

Correct.

[CNYSkinFan]

This team controls it's own destiny. Let's see how this plays out.

By my analysis, the Skins have to win tonight or they are eliminated.

Both of these statements are correct. The Skins HAVE to win tonight to get in. Now that the Saints lost, it doesn't matter that the Giants won (except to the Giants).

We need to win tonight or we are out.

A win tonight and A win against Dallas next week (a Dallas team with nothing to play for, homefield wrapped up and injuries to both Romo and Owens in the last couple of weeks) and we are in the playoffs.

A win tonight and a loss to Dallas will still get us in IF the Saints and Vikings also lose next week. Saints play a resurgent Chicago and Minnesota plays Denver.

But it all starts in 3 hours from now. IF this is a playoff team, we will find out with our performance tonight. Remember Minnesota will be playing to clinch a playoff spot tonight, but so were the Giants last week.

[shally]

Both of these statements are correct. The Skins HAVE to win tonight to get in. Now that the Saints lost, it doesn't matter that the Giants won (except to the Giants).

We need to win tonight or we are out.

A win tonight and A win against Dallas next week (a Dallas team with nothing to play for, homefield wrapped up and injuries to both Romo and Owens in the last couple of weeks) and we are in the playoffs.

A win tonight and a loss to Dallas will still get us in IF the Saints and Vikings also lose next week. Saints play a resurgent Chicago and Minnesota plays Denver.

But it all starts in 3 hours from now. IF this is a playoff team, we will find out with our performance tonight. Remember Minnesota will be playing to clinch a playoff spot tonight, but so were the Giants last week.

exactly.. we are who we are after tonight's game and the dallas game.
enough "woe is me." this team has gotten the chance to take it upon themselves to finish the season strong or to pack it in.. let's see what they are made of...

[NCskinsfanatic]

if this team wants it bad enough then we'll win, despite the injuries we are talented enough to go in there and win this game. For me it comes down to their desire...how bad does this wounded team want it?

[CNYSkinFan]

ok your early rooting card for next week:

Redskins are in if they win against Dallas

or if they lose the Redskins are in with losses by the saints (CHI) & the vikings (Den)

The saints play at 1pm and the Dallas game has been moved to 4pm, Vikings play at 4.

If I remember right, and I will check my articles, but I do not believe the Redskins controlled their own destiny until Week 17 in 2005.