Playoff Rooting Card: Week 17

[CNYSkinFan]

Last one of the year. Bring on Dallas!!!

Playoff Rooting Card: Week 17 (http://www.hailredskins.com/?p=345)

I also give a few thoughts on what a remarkable place we are now and what the Redskins have had to endure all season.

[Keino]

Must've been the easiest rooting card to come up with:

Beat Dallas!

(Okay, now I will go read it)

[CNYSkinFan]

Must've been the easiest rooting card to come up with:

Beat Dallas!

(Okay, now I will go read it)
it was...made it simple. We can still get in if Saints and Vikings lose too, but that seems cheap to me.

[Keino]

it was...made it simple. We can still get in if Saints and Vikings lose too, but that seems cheap to me.

I think if the 6th qualifying team finishes 8-8, the 3rd place team should get a bye. 8-8 teams don't deserve to play in the playoffs.

It's like 6-5 teams playing in Bowl games. Rewarding Mediocrity.

[KidBroSweets]

it was...made it simple. We can still get in if Saints and Vikings lose too, but that seems cheap to me.

Exactly. Let's not have to get in at 8-8 in the sorry NFC. It's kinda embarrassing if you ask me. Let's just go out there and continue this hot streak and BEAT DALLAS!

[smoak]

It absolutely cracks me up that there is a rooting card for week 17. :D

While I absolutely agree about wanting to win to get in, I have to say if we were 8-8 and won the Super Bowl, I'd never think twice about it. I think this particular team has been through hell and back so any chance they get to play in the postseason is welcome. The record may be mediocre, but this team isn't (again, IMO).

That said, we are going to have an uphill battle on Sunday. This team needs all the support we can muster b/c I think they are playing more on emotion than talent. CP is going to have to pull his Superman routine.

[Keino]

When a team goes 8-8 and wins a playoff game, let alone wins a Superbowl, let me know Smoak.

If we don't win this week and we take the backdoor into the playoffs, we won't deserve it, but more to the point, we will have that very point demonstrated to us.


You are what your record says you are. If we finish 8-8, we will be mediocre. What standard can be used outside of wins and losses?

[CNYSkinFan]

When a team goes 8-8 and wins a playoff game, let alone wins a Superbowl, let me know Smoak.

If we don't win this week and we take the backdoor into the playoffs, we won't deserve it, but more to the point, we will have that very point demonstrated to us.


You are what your record says you are. If we finish 8-8, we will be mediocre. What standard can be used outside of wins and losses?
this got me thinking what was the worst record of a superbowl team, and that was the 1979 Los angeles Rams. Went 9-7 and lost to the Pittsburgh steelers. They did lead them in the fourth quarter though

[Keino]

this got me thinking what was the worst record of a superbowl team, and that was the 1979 Los angeles Rams. Went 9-7 and lost to the Pittsburgh steelers. They did lead them in the fourth quarter though

I remember that team. They beat the Tampa Bucs 9-0 in the NFC Championship game. Wendell Tyler was their RB and Vince Farragamo was their QB. I believe they won their division with 9-7.



The 85 Patriots were also 9-7.

The only team to go from the 6 seed to win the Superbowl were the 2005 Steelers. They were 11-5 BTW.

[CNYSkinFan]

I remember that team. They beat the Tampa Bucs 9-0 in the NFC Championship game. Wendell Tyler was their RB and Vince Farragamo was their QB. I believe they won their division with 9-7.



The 85 Patriots were also 9-7.

The only team to go from the 6 seed to win the Superbowl were the 2005 Steelers. They were 11-5 BTW.
yeah...how did that work out for the 85 pats lol

[Keino]

Amazing what I can remember, but will forget important things.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1979/

The Rams went 9-7 and won their division. The Skins went 10-6 and missed the playoffs thanks to losing to Dallas 35-34 the last game of the season.

That would be the first game I ever cried over the results. Age 6.

I hate Dallas!

[skinsfan36]

beat dallas and we are in we just have to take care of business what a season so far

[Red Bear]

When a team goes 8-8 and wins a playoff game, let alone wins a Superbowl, let me know Smoak.

If we don't win this week and we take the backdoor into the playoffs, we won't deserve it, but more to the point, we will have that very point demonstrated to us.


You are what your record says you are. If we finish 8-8, we will be mediocre. What standard can be used outside of wins and losses?

an 8-8 team, maybe even a couple of them, won in the playoffs a few years ago, making it the first time ever an 8-8 won a playoff game i believe...but nonetheless, i dont care if we make it in at 8-8 or whatever, just qualifying for the postseason is all it takes to get a shot at the superbowl. i would want that shot no matter what record you make the playoffs with

[CNYSkinFan]

I did some research on our last playoff run in 2005. There are similarities and some differences.

-In 2005 we also needed a late season run to get into the playoffs, though it was 5 games then instead of 4 (hopefully) now.
-In 2005 we faced an NFC East fore in our final game needing a win to get in. Then it was Philadelphia though, not Dallas.
-In 2005 we did not control our own destiny until we faced Dallas late in the season. In 2-005 though it was week 16, not week 17.
-In 2005 our 5 game win streak followed a 3 game long losing streak. This time hopefully it is 4 wins anfter 4 losses.

Although in 2005 in the final weekend we had a shot at the division title if only NY Giants loss to Oakland...they didn't. No such chance this time around.

[Keino]

an 8-8 team, maybe even a couple of them, won in the playoffs a few years ago, making it the first time ever an 8-8 won a playoff game i believe...but nonetheless, i dont care if we make it in at 8-8 or whatever, just qualifying for the postseason is all it takes to get a shot at the superbowl. i would want that shot no matter what record you make the playoffs with

Just so I am clear, if the Redskins lose to Dallas this weekend, you are of the opinion they deserve to be in the playoffs?

It's safe to say we disagree on that point.

For the record, 2004 was the 1st time 8-8 team ever won in the playoffs and two teams happened to do it the same weekend. Minnesota (Led by Culpepper and Moss) beat Green Bay (10-6) and St.Louis (led by Marshall Faulk/Bulger/Holt) beat Seattle (9-7). Both teams were destroyed the following week by Philly and Atlanta respectively.

8-8 teams are an all time 2-10 in the post-season.

I don't want to go to the playoffs as an 8-8 team, and I stand firm in the opinion that 8-8 teams do not deserve the chance to compete for the Superbowl.

[Red Bear]

Just so I am clear, if the Redskins lose to Dallas this weekend, you are of the opinion they deserve to be in the playoffs?

It's safe to say we disagree on that point.

For the record, 2004 was the 1st time 8-8 team ever won in the playoffs and two teams happened to do it the same weekend. Minnesota (Led by Culpepper and Moss) beat Green Bay (10-6) and St.Louis (led by Marshall Faulk/Bulger/Holt) beat Seattle (9-7). Both teams were destroyed the following week by Philly and Atlanta respectively.

8-8 teams are an all time 2-10 in the post-season.

I don't want to go to the playoffs as an 8-8 team, and I stand firm in the opinion that 8-8 teams do not deserve the chance to compete for the Superbowl.

i never said they deserved to go, just basically that if they get the shot to make it at 8-8 they should run with it.

i didnt go into the detail you did, but i mentioned that it was to the best of my recollection that 8-8 teams had one in the playoffs and it was recently.

so at the end there youre basically saying if we do faulter against dallas, finish 8-8 and still make it to the playoffs that you dont want to go? im sorry, but if my team makes the playoffs and has a shot to compete for the superbowl then im going to support them rather than say they didnt deserve to be there. if so many other teams did poor enough for us to possibly make it at 8-8 then perhaps we do deserve to be there. if you dont like it that an 8-8 team has a shot, then perhaps you should just pretend were not in the postseason and skip the game should we make it as an 8-8 team since you dont think we'd have earned/deserved that right to be there

[Keino]

I am saying that if we falter in Dallas, I don't want Minnesota and New Orleasns to falter as well, because I don't want to back into the playoffs. If we win, we deserve to go. If not, I'd just assume pick 3 picks higher than the team who does end up making it, because we will have Zero chance of winning the Superbowl.

It's a question of deserving to go, and in my mind, if you can't win the one game you must win to secure your spot, then you don't deserve to be there.

Support has nothing to do with my opinion. I will support the team no matter what the record is, no matter who they are playing. I simply do not want to make the playoffs at 8-8.

[Red Bear]

I am saying that if we falter in Dallas, I don't want Minnesota and New Orleasns to falter as well, because I don't want to back into the playoffs. If we win, we deserve to go. If not, I'd just assume pick 3 picks higher than the team who does end up making it, because we will have Zero chance of winning the Superbowl.

It's a question of deserving to go, and in my mind, if you can't win the one game you must win to secure your spot, then you don't deserve to be there.

Support has nothing to do with my opinion. I will support the team no matter what the record is, no matter who they are playing. I simply do not want to make the playoffs at 8-8.

while 8-8 teams historically havent done much in the playoffs, i still wouldnt say they have zero chance of winning the superbowl, every team that makes the playoffs has that chance. the difference to me between this run and the 05 run is that we seem to be getting healthier, stronger, and better as a team, so if we do make it to the playoffs i dont expect to see the gassed team we saw in 05 at tampa and at seattle...

[CamLwalk]

Amazing what I can remember, but will forget important things.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1979/

The Rams went 9-7 and won their division. The Skins went 10-6 and missed the playoffs thanks to losing to Dallas 35-34 the last game of the season.

That would be the first game I ever cried over the results. Age 6.

I hate Dallas!

Uggh....I remember that.

I think the Vikes and Saints both lose this week. But I think we'll win anyways.

[Keino]

while 8-8 teams historically haven't done much in the playoffs, i still wouldnt say they have zero chance of winning the superbowl, every team that makes the playoffs has that chance. the difference to me between this run and the 05 run is that we seem to be getting healthier, stronger, and better as a team, so if we do make it to the playoffs i dont expect to see the gassed team we saw in 05 at tampa and at seattle...

Zero chance. There is a reason it has never happened. There is a reason that it took 37 years since the merger for 8-8 teams to win a playoff game. The reason is that you are what your record says you are, and mediocre teams don't beat good teams for the ultimate prize.