Anyone questioning Spurrier on Canidate now?

[PennSkinsFan]

16 carries, 89 yards. Canidate looked very good today, got some key runs and key first downs.

[RichardBradley]

Now if we could just get him to block we would be alright

[JoeDaSchmoe]

Heh, Amen, Rich.

[rskinsfan10]

Don't single him out. There are others.

[Chief Seeway]

I didnt see the game but Trung cant be responsible for 6 sacks, can he?

[RichardBradley]

No he wasn't and I am in no way calling him out only but all the backs need to step up that part of their games.. I agree that Candidate is the better runner... Jamal Lewis is sick

[PennSkinsFan]

Samules did not have a good game again either.

[rskinsfan10]

Originally posted by seeway
I didnt see the game but Trung cant be responsible for 6 sacks, can he?

My point exactly, and the other RB's aren't that impressive either.

[jsarno]

My problem with Spurrier with canidate is that he's not using him enough. 15 carries for 89 yards (according to NFL.COM), he needs to use Betts less, and Let trung loose!

[Green-Is-Good]

I don't know. Betts looked better last week, but Trung was outstanding against a stronger defense than Betts was up against in week one.

[AGibbsGirl]

I questioned a few of Canidates runs, as you all know by now, I don't think he has enough grinding power, but the man is quick!

[truant]

Just appriciate what we have guys. Whoever is running better should get more carries. It'd be nice to see one of the backs hit 20 plus carries to see what they can do... but the most important thing is the wins.

Pass protection 101 is a class that the offense needs to repeat. How scared were you when Ramsey was holding his shoulder after that sack before the half!!!!

[hail2skins]

Yeah, he ran the ball well but he and Betts and the oline need to block better.

[Skinsfan1906]

Well Steven Davis had 33 Carries for about 140 yards last night. Man is he a workhorse. Having said that, with our one/two punch with Trung and Betts and in this offense, I don't see much of a drop off. Both Betts and Trung are averaging over 4 yards a carry, which is about Steven Davis' career average.

[PennSkinsFan]

Well, I am an advocate for the continues running back by committee approach. These guys are contrasts of one another and that makes for a healthy backfield. i think once we are able to get Trung and Betts more into the passign game, you will see why Davis did not fit. David can not catch the ball.

[PennSkinsFan]

Canidate is now averaging 5.4 yards per carry. He was hot yesterday and underused.

[RichardBradley]

Agreed.

[hail2skins]

Originally posted by PennSkinsFan
Well, I am an advocate for the continues running back by committee approach. These guys are contrasts of one another and that makes for a healthy backfield. i think once we are able to get Trung and Betts more into the passign game, you will see why Davis did not fit. David can not catch the ball.

I remember him catching quite a few balls in Norvals offense.

[LakeAnneCrew]

It's a long season and you're talking about two backs who have not been used a lot in their NFL careers. Trung is not a 30-carry back. His body will break down. Betts could be that kind of back in time. But wait until week 17 and see how fresh they both will be. I think coach is right in splitting time. Goose, the sideline reporter, commented on how tired the Atlanta defense looked. A lot of that was because they were on the field so much. That's one reason why we surged ahead in the second half and took control. We were the better rested and conditioned team--on offense and defense. Coach's rotations seem to be working both ways and hopefully by the end of the season, this system will leave us healthy and fresh and ready to make that postseason push.

[Patrick]

Originally posted by hail2skins
I remember him catching quite a few balls in Norvals offense.

You're SO right:

146 catches / 1168 yards / 3 TDS. Oh yeah - 8.0 yds / rec.

[Spence]

Canidate can catch the ball and really move in the open field after the catch. I'm surprised he hasn't been more a part of that offense. My guess is that it has something to do with the play of our wideouts. Given a choice between throwing a pass six yards down field to a running back or throwing it 22 yards downfield to a wideout, Spurrier wants the ball thrown farther downfield. The more catches Coles and Gardner make, the fewer are left for Canidate. However, I'd love to see him with the ball in the open field just a few times. I think he'd be electrifying.

[camasterton]

Isn't part of it Ramsey's touch as well? The staff has said Ramsey does not throw he touch pass (as in screenpass, flatpass and dump offs to the backs) well at this point in his career.

[dj_stouty]

Originally posted by camasterton
Isn't part of it Ramsey's touch as well? The staff has said Ramsey does not throw he touch pass (as in screenpass, flatpass and dump offs to the backs) well at this point in his career.

I haven't seen him botch a screen pass yet this season to a WR....

The one FB screen Ramsey threw this Sunday worked to perfection.

And I recall a great dump off to Betts that resulted in a 14 yard gain for a first down.

I think Ramsey's touch is just fine on those passes.

[Hailyeah]

Well, I'll give Canidate some credit here (yes its me, HY). I thought he began to hit the holes harder in the 2nd half of the ATL game. That's what I like to see. Make a quick decision and roll. Dancing around and looking to break one on every play isn't the way to run effectively and consistently in this league. Get through the hole and then make quick cuts in an attempt to burn the backers and safeties. He seemed to be more willing to run up the gut.

Of course, I still believe Betts is the better back, but I will support the 'whatever is working stick with it' mentality that seems to be pervasive in here this week. Trung did a fine job on Sunday.

[RichardBradley]

Please give this Offense some time now that it has some weapons in it.. Davis is gone and should be forgotten

[Spence]

Just thought I'd point out Davis is the leading rusher in the NFC right now, after shredding the Buccaneers on Sunday. I'm happy with Trung and Ladell right now, but Davis clearly has plenty left in his tank.

[RichardBradley]

Davis definatly has some left in the tank but he would be a distraction to this team... He is not a team player and proved that last year when he bitched about his carries after a win

[Skins57]

Originally posted by Spence
Just thought I'd point out Davis is the leading rusher in the NFC right now, after shredding the Buccaneers on Sunday. I'm happy with Trung and Ladell right now, but Davis clearly has plenty left in his tank.

Davis clearly has a lot in the tank. TB is tough defnse to be running through like that. Great for Davis. I am happy for him

[JoeDaSchmoe]

There aren't too many backs better than Davis to beat Tampa with. The only proven way to win against the Bucs is to run straight at them, over and over again.

[WRSK1NS]

Someone mentioned it earlier but I did think Trung was on a hot streak and then got pulled. Late in the fourth quarter skins near their own goal line Trung busted a big run up the middle. Then they pulled him had a couple short Betts runs and punted. I thought while Trung was hot they would keep feeding him. I think he would have broke it and possibly taken it to the house. IMO

[camasterton]

Originally posted by dj_stouty
I haven't seen him botch a screen pass yet this season to a WR....

The one FB screen Ramsey threw this Sunday worked to perfection.

And I recall a great dump off to Betts that resulted in a 14 yard gain for a first down.

I think Ramsey's touch is just fine on those passes.
I wasn't complaining of his touch, I thought it fine too. I was just offering a suggestion as to why more passes to the RBs havn't been called.

[hail2skins]

Maybe the coaches feel that haven't had to do it yet. I stated in another thread that I feel Spurrier hasn't really showed his real offense yet. That a good thing to me and I look forward to see more passes to the backs coming out of the backfield.

[JoeDaSchmoe]

I don't think it'd be possible for Spurrier to show his whole offense in two games. That playbook is thinker than Jeff George's skull.

[truant]

I guess Canidate had a minor ankle sprain... explaining why he didn't get more carries yesterday.

[RichardBradley]

Originally posted by JoeDaSchmoe
I don't think it'd be possible for Spurrier to show his whole offense in two games. That playbook is thinker than Jeff George's skull.


Thats pretty thick........

[hail2skins]

Agreed JDS and that only helps us out. If we can continue to win with the basics of his playbook, teams will in trouble toward the end of the season.

[RichardBradley]

That DJ thing is the bomb

[JoeDaSchmoe]

One thing about Canidate.... He may have run well on Sunday, but let's not forget that it was on turf in a dome. Come December at FedEx Field, I think we'll be liking Betts a lot more.