Gibbs Press Conference [Merged]

[PennSkinsFan]

Will report some details here for those of you that can not listen.

[PennSkinsFan]

* Been a long 3 days

* Dan really did not want this to happen

* Apologizes for the timing

[Redskin4Life]

Thanks. I won't be able to watch/listen since I'm at work.

[CNYSkinFan]

Said Dan did not want this to happen, apologized for timing....

Fel;t they were going to go to Superbowl this year that was what he focused on

[PennSkinsFan]

* so focused that he thought we 2would go the whole way

* way we played the last 4 games, was total focus

*** No Gregg williams at press conference ***

[bergiemoore]

If he says "fought their guts out", everyone drinks 5.

[PennSkinsFan]

* focused on free agency last few days

* at time he addressed team, he was nto atthe point of a decision

* Talked to Pat, JCD, and Coy, and alot of others in the family

[PennSkinsFan]

* when he started back to DC after meeting with family, he had very strong feeling what he should do

* loves the redskin, he is a Redskin, he is a Washingtonian

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

"I love the Redskins. I'm a Redskin" -- Joe Gibbs

:typeR2:

[CNYSkinFan]

I love Joe but I don't buy that he just decided to retire on Monday....I mean he had to know it was coming.

I agree with keeping it secret until now but I never buy when people say they had a revelation and made a change in 24 hours

[CNYSkinFan]

yep no GW...that is a bad sign....for GW

[PennSkinsFan]

* felt like another part - the family situation has dramatically changed

* the only way he knows how to do this job is night and day

* thrill of it is how hard it is, one of the greatest opportunities in the world, the greates sports franchise in the world and greatest fans

[ChapelHillMatt]

Says he only knows one way to do this job and that's full board, to go at it 19 hours a day and it's something he's always thinking about.

The man was dedicated, that's for sure. It's a shame it didn't work out for him...

[PennSkinsFan]

* press conference last night was awkward because his decision was made but he had not yet talked to Snyderl

* most importnat thing to leave one arth is kids and grandkids and situation being what it is right now, he can not make the commitment going forward knowing his family situation, they need him.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

he knows he couldn't go on with the state his family is in right now. this is basically what his decision is all about.

[Red Bear]

Says he only knows one way to do this job and that's full board, to go at it 19 hours a day and it's something he's always thinking about.

The man was dedicated, that's for sure. It's a shame it didn't work out for him...

i cant even stay up 19 hours a day in my 20s, gibbs certainly put forth the effort to improve this team

[PennSkinsFan]

* Dan understood, but did not neccessarily agree, understandably

* appreciates everything he put his family through and now it is time to be with them

[CNYSkinFan]

Thanks Dan Viny and scouting organization

[PennSkinsFan]

* over the 4 years, Joe said he never had one excuse, everything he wanted, Dan got it

* decision were all made together

* got to witness alot about Dan. Dan talked about all the coaches personally

[PennSkinsFan]

* 6 weeks ago was his lowest point and Dan gave encouragement

[Santheb]

Joe Gibbs is a great man.

[PennSkinsFan]

* Dan wants to win. Gibbs witnessed it, was part of it and saw it, he wants to win and knows he owns the most prized franchise in all of sports

* 230 AM they reached an agreement on what to do - Joe had greates job int he world

[Redskin4Life]

* Dan wants to win. Gibbs witnessed it, was part of it and saw it, he wants to win and knows he owns the most prized franchise in all of sports

* 230 AM they reached an agreement on what to do - Joe had greates job int he world
What the HECK does that mean????

[PennSkinsFan]

* great experiences in the world

* to the fans --- greatest int he world, they are always there, battle tested, appreciates the franchise

[CNYSkinFan]

he thanked the people at Starbucks that he stops at to get his coffee every day who encouraged him....the man is all class...man this hurts

[bergiemoore]

"greatest fans in the world" drinks 2



-- Nice Starbucks plug

[PennSkinsFan]

* thanks the fans for the great ride - always treated better in washington than what he deserved

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

thanks the fans says we have the greatest fans in the world, always there, through any weather, know good football.

[CNYSkinFan]

He said he was always treated better then he deserved in Washington

[CNYSkinFan]

I dont think I heard him thank GW and Al by name...anybody else catch that?

[CNYSkinFan]

Will be here as long as Dan wants him there...i guess that means in the special advisor way

said the words next coach and stressed that we have all the right tools to go forward

[PennSkinsFan]

* will be here a for a bit - feels we have things in shape here and in place to go forward for the next coach, did not name any, just said next coach

[CNYSkinFan]

"We got alot of pieces in place and I personally want to be a part of it and want to see it finished"

Interesing quote

[PennSkinsFan]

* Joe wants to do anything he can going forward to achieve the goal of what we want to achieve a winner and championships --- wants to be a part of that

* plans to be around and in Charlotte, back and forth

[CNYSkinFan]

teared up at the end...not taking questions ...Snyder speaking now...sounds teared up as well

[PennSkinsFan]

NOW DAN SNYDER

* THREE WORDS that come to mind --- about Joe
appreciation
admiration
respect

[ChapelHillMatt]

I love this man, even if he's not the same coach he once was, no doubt he's a HOF person.

Going to miss him.

[PennSkinsFan]

* Players would go through a wall for this guy - the bond is very very special with joe and players

* best fans in the world and they know he is the best in the world

[bergiemoore]

"The players, man, I'll tell, they'd go through a wall for this guy."

-Dan Snyder in reference to Joe Gibbs

[CNYSkinFan]

Snyder speaking

players would go through wall for Gibbs

Fans are the best in the world and they know he is the best in the world

snyder and gibbs wife text back and forthalot talking about their husbands

[bergiemoore]

Danny's visibly shaken up.

[PennSkinsFan]

* no one wanted to see this happen, but we all respect it and understand it

* joe will be the best fo washington

THATS IT

NO MENTION OF NEW COACH SEARCH!!!!

[jaylen]

Snyder was pretty emotional., Gibbs not so much he's worn out after a tough season, and God Bless Him.

These players truly loved Coach Gibbs.

Thats when you know that chemistry is headed in the right direction on a team.

[bergiemoore]

Q: Will you maintain your office here?

A: Nope

[CNYSkinFan]

Role not defined not going to keep an office here

[wewantdallas]

He obviously wants Gregg Williams to be the next coach. You can certainly tell that based on what he said.

[ChapelHillMatt]

People rip Snyder but the man cares, he cares a ton about this team. I've learned through what's happened this year what a great person Snyder really is.

[CNYSkinFan]

He obviously wants Gregg Williams to be the next coach. You can certainly tell that based on what he said.
I am not getting that but it would be logical...definitely in character. He does not wqant this team blown up

[jaylen]

I get a sense that Snyder is kinda on his heels with this. It may be a while before he names a coach.

[bergiemoore]

Doesn't want to set up "the next coach, whoever that is" with a bad situation.

[CNYSkinFan]

I get a sense that Snyder is kinda on his heels with this. It may be a while before he names a coach.
That is not Snyder's style. I bet we have someone by Monday

[bergiemoore]

He obviously wants Gregg Williams to be the next coach. You can certainly tell that based on what he said.

I don't get that impression. He's been very reticent to mention anything about what's going to happen down the road.

[openallnight]

That is not Snyder's style. I bet we have someone by Monday

First things first, we've got to get a GM before we can start thinking about the coach.

[bergiemoore]

Dan's feelings are a lot like everybody's there in terms of choosing the next HC. What the heck does that mean?

[PennSkinsFan]

Gibbs says taht Dan Snyder is the best man to make the decision on who the next coach is and the right decision for this franchise will be made, because he is making it.

[ChapelHillMatt]

Listening to Dan right now there is no doubt in my mind Gregg is going to be the next coach.

[CNYSkinFan]

Finally asked a question about coaching changes...

He is saying that Dan will make the decision and tat gibbs feels good about Dan making the decision because "Dan feels the same way that we all feel" Snyder says that continuity is important after playoff run

[bergiemoore]

Dan likes where we are with the players, coaches, and staff. Sounds like he's going to keep it in house.

[PennSkinsFan]

Snyder said he likes where we are, were in good shape with players and scouting and everything.

In house --- we have not started the process yet

[CNYSkinFan]

Snyder was directly asked about staying in house for the moce and he answered " we have not even started the process"

[PennSkinsFan]

I don't think he is neccessarily tie dto in house, but it will weigh on him heavily. I think it is typical. I think they are keeping it pretty cryptic right now.

[WarEagle]

I'll bet prospective coaches are burning up the phone lines to Snyder's office. He's going to be pretty busy the next few days.

[jaylen]

Its raw emotion right now, I think in time Snyder may ease outta this continuity mindset.

GW makes sense today in those terms but given some time and with the emotion removed he may change his mindset.

[CNYSkinFan]

Gibbs feels bad about not finishing 5 year commitment, but there comes a point with his priorities that he needed to be in a different situations

[PennSkinsFan]

Cowher question

No conversation, nor process started

[bergiemoore]

No conversations with Cowher in the last 6 years.

[PennSkinsFan]

Snyder clearly will not give any hints at all regarding the coaching search

[bergiemoore]

"Shut up, Doc"

Hilarious.

[akhhorus]

Snyder clearly will not give any hints at all regarding the coaching search

Yeah, he's being extremely coy.

[CNYSkinFan]

Was asked directly about Cowher and both Dan and Gibbs again stressed they have not started the process again...joked about Cowher's racquetball abilities

[bergiemoore]

Dan gives Gibbs credit for stabilizing the Skins over the last 4 years.

[PennSkinsFan]

Snyder said Gibbs taught him alot and admitted the franchise was unstable and that Gibbs stabilized it and really taught him alot.

[PennSkinsFan]

first time I actually heard Snyder admit the fracnhise was unstable for his first few years

[bergiemoore]

These guys seem to genuinely like each other, Gibbs and Dan

[hessy36]

Dan gives Gibbs credit for stabilizing the Skins over the last 4 years.

This is very true.. you have to love Gibbs for this. He is so great with bringing teams together. The Skins were finally the SKINS again with his return....

... man I'm going to miss him!

[skinfanjon]

ATTENTION STEVE SPURRIER: This is how men with class resign from their positions of great significance. Take some notes, jerk.

[jaylen]

Gibbs seems very relieved.

[CNYSkinFan]

first time I actually heard Snyder admit the fracnhise was unstable for his first few years
yep gave all credit to Joe

[WarEagle]

I love the sight of the three Lombardi's at the podium.

[CNYSkinFan]

ATTENTION STEVE SPURRIER: This is how men with class resign from their positions of great significance. Take some notes, jerk.
Spurrier, Petrino, Saban, the list goes on

[shally]

He obviously wants Gregg Williams to be the next coach. You can certainly tell that based on what he said.

he also wanted richie pettibone to be HC. how did that turn out ?

I am not getting that but it would be logical...definitely in character. He does not wqant this team blown up

change is inevitable when you change HC

That is not Snyder's style. I bet we have someone by Monday

better not.. we need a GM first.. besides there is the rooney rule

First things first, we've got to get a GM before we can start thinking about the coach.

i wish i believed that would happen.. i seriously doubt it

Yeah, he's being extremely coy.

good.. take your time and get it right this time

[CNYSkinFan]

Gibbs was asked directly whether it would bother him if new coaching staff is brought in and again deferred to Dan

[Biggie]

Thanks a lot for everything, Coach. You brought dignity and respect back to the franchise, and you'll always be loved and respected by the fans.

[shally]

Spurrier, Petrino, Saban, the list goes on

no college coaches need apply

[CNYSkinFan]

Snyder just shot down the GM role...said the fornt office has been working over the past four years and "if it aint broke don't fix it"

bye bye gm dreams

[bergiemoore]

Dan thinks the FO is working fine.

[shally]

Gibbs was asked directly whether it would bother him if new coaching staff is brought in and again deferred to Dan

some of the older guys are going even if GW is elevated

[smoak]

Dan thinks the FO is working fine.

The way I read into that was "NO NEW GM".

[CNYSkinFan]

As I said before to those who wanted Gibbs fired or to retuire, Snyder will not hire a gm...ever...period

[Syllable]

Based on the News conference Snyder says this about his FO, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"


Thoughts? Has our FO improved and will it continue to improve after Gibbs leaves VP?

[CNYSkinFan]

The way I read into that was "NO NEW GM".
EVER!!! lol

he is going to go with the three guys in the room theory going forward....Coach, Cerrato, Snyder....apparently

[PennSkinsFan]

Snyder just shot down the GM role...said the fornt office has been working over the past four years and "if it aint broke don't fix it"

bye bye gm dreams

I almost cried when he said that

[openallnight]

Dan thinks the FO is working fine.

He said if it ain't broke don't fix it!
So, it sounds like the next coach will be the team president/GM as well???

[akhhorus]

Snyder just shot down the GM role...said the fornt office has been working over the past four years and "if it aint broke don't fix it"

bye bye gm dreams

What if "it don't work"?

[PennSkinsFan]

Tell ya what it almost sounds like, he considers Vinny the GM

[JasonCampbell]

Broke...it was never fixed.

We need a GM...all the other winning franchises in the league has GMs

[dj_stouty]

As I said before to those who wanted Gibbs fired or to retuire, Snyder will not hire a gm...ever...period

Yup, I believed this as well.

today, Gibbs made a point of saying him and Danny (along with scouting) made all of the decisions "together". Danny probably thinks listening to a HOF coach every day for 4 years is enough experience for him to continue his decision-making role.

[CNYSkinFan]

Gibbs was asked directly about grilliams and that the credit for the defense goes to all the defensive coaches and Gregg would tell you that.

he compliments alot of stuff about the defense and interesting doesn't actually give Williams any credit by name just the whole unit....

Wow Gibbs needs to go to work on pennsylvania avenue the man can spin

[JasonCampbell]

Yup, I believed this as well.

today, Gibbs made a point of saying him and Danny (along with scouting) made all of the decisions "together". Danny probably thinks listening to a HOF coach every day for 4 years is enough experience for him to continue his decision-making role.

Ugh...Dan Snyder is a fan with all the power...terrible

[redskin_rich]

What if "it don't work"?

Break it and then fix it.

[Redskin4Life]

better not.. we need a GM first.. besides there is the rooney rule
If GW has that clause in his contract (I'm hearing he doesn't but JLC is saying that he does in his article this morning), you can bypass the Rooney Rule... see JLC's blog entry:

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/01/the_rooney_rule.html

[CNYSkinFan]

Holy cow...that answer about williams went all over the place....I am wondering if he knows Williams is out of the picture

[dj_stouty]

Holy cow...that answer about williams went all over the place....I am wondering if he knows Williams is out of the picture

Was anyone else calling BS when Danny said the last time he spoke to Cowher was SIX years ago?

[openallnight]

Tell ya what it almost sounds like, he considers Vinny the GM
Typically the coach and the director of scouting report to the GM. Therefore, I think he considers himself the GM.

[hessy36]

Holy cow...that answer about williams went all over the place....I am wondering if he knows Williams is out of the picture

Mabe Williams doesn't want the job! .. Or maybe they have to fire Saunders first..

[CNYSkinFan]

Was anyone else calling BS when Danny said the last time he spoke to Cowher was SIX years ago?
well he would not have to speak to him....Vinny the gimp could....joe could....Tonya Snyder could lol

[akhhorus]

Was anyone else calling BS when Danny said the last time he spoke to Cowher was SIX years ago?

Doesn't mean he didn't talk to Cowher's agent.

[PennSkinsFan]

whoa --- direct GW question

Go throguh full process, take our time, make right decision, have not even had first meeting

In other words...good bye Gregg

[CNYSkinFan]

well he would not have to speak to him....Vinny the gimp could....joe could....Tonya Snyder could lol
Snyder: We know how the players feel about all the coaches wont need to solicit their opinions

[dj_stouty]

Typically the coach and the director of scouting report to the GM. Therefore, I think he considers himself the GM.

I can agree with this. They don't have traditional "job titles" like other franchises. They have Associate Head Coaches above the coordinators...and without a GM, they have some hybrid model that consists of the scouting director (vinny) the HC (joe) and the owner (Danny). They are probably the three-headed GM.

[CNYSkinFan]

whoa --- direct GW question

Go throguh full process, take our time, make right decision, have not even had first meeting

In other words...good bye Gregg
I concur

[shally]

As I said before to those who wanted Gibbs fired or to retuire, Snyder will not hire a gm...ever...period

no chance for us long term.. with or without GW.. either it means we get a strong willed guy like cowher who takes over personnel or a guy like GW or some young guy who defers to vinnie.

no chance

[OCSkinzFan]

Snyder has a very HIGH opinion of himself.

He must think that because he has soooo much money that he ain't broke, because he certainly can't be talkin about the FO.:smash:

[shally]

I concur

he cant say otherwise because of the rooney rule

[hessy36]

I concur

I don't.. we just don't anything right now or what all these words mean..

[RicFlairOne]

I concur

Good news for you about Williams.

Gibbs said some ex players there today perhaps Grimm is in the building !!!:)

[CNYSkinFan]

he cant say otherwise because of the rooney rule
He can say whatever he wants....he just needs to go through a token interview or cite GW's contract (if it exists) as why. So they bring in blache to interview for HC and make him DC

If they wanted to it would be done

[Lacquer Head]

If there's one thing I thought we had learned, it was that we need someone competent to be general manager. To hear this "It's not broke" talk is simply insulting. If we'd won more than one playoff game since Brad Johnson was our QB, maybe we could talk about things not being broken.

This looks worse by the minute. Talk about a hard time to be a Skins fan.

Still, HTTR.

[wewantdallas]

It's fitting that his last W came against Dallas, at home. One thing you have to say about the guy, he knew how to beat Dallas and really helped restore the balance to that rivalry. We've won four out of the last six against them, and hopefully that will continue with whoever's the next coach.

[CNYSkinFan]

Did you guys hear him tell Doc walker to shut up....funny stuff

[WarEagle]

he cant say otherwise because of the rooney rule

Yup. He could be looking at a lawsuit unless he stayed above board and coy.

[akhhorus]

I don't.. we just don't anything right now or what all these words mean..

Since they don't have to go through the Rooney Rule if they hire Williams, if it is to be Williams as the next coach, it should happen quickly. The longer this process drags out, the worse it is for Williams. The fact that they don't want to make any definitive comments about him says that they want to look around.

[hessy36]

He can say whatever he wants....he just needs to go through a token interview or cite GW's contract (if it exists) as why. So they bring in blache to interview for HC and make him DC

If they wanted to it would be done

Hmmm, I think Dan needs some time to accept this one. I don't think he really believed Joe would go. He probably needs to get his head on straight before he can even think about a New HC... and I think that is what he's trying to tell the media..

[hail2skins]

whoa --- direct GW question

Go throguh full process, take our time, make right decision, have not even had first meeting

In other words...good bye Gregg
I don't think so. They can't just name him the coach without interviewing others, especially minorities.

[JsMaViSd]

"Shutup Doc"

lol

and i loved the shoutout he gave to Jacobey

[hail2skins]

I don't know why this didn't stay in the press conference thread. we've been over this a million times. Thread will be removed. Discuss in press conference thread.

[greatest2]

Since they don't have to go through the Rooney Rule if they hire Williams, if it is to be Williams as the next coach, it should happen quickly.

JLC reports in his blog the redskins WILL have to go through rooney rule no matter whether they hire in house or not. he has the rule quoted in there as well

[CNYSkinFan]

I don't think so. They can't just name him the coach without interviewing others, especially minorities.
that is true but it is the way Gibbs went out of his way to not even compliment him directly. Not even a Super Smart or fighting his guts out. he stressed it was the coaching staff on D that did it all...

[hail2skins]

Threads merged. The discussion regarding no GM is old and should have stayed here in the press conference thread.

[akhhorus]

JLC reports in his blog the redskins WILL have to go through rooney rule no matter whether they hire in house or not. he has the rule quoted in there as well

Then they changed things recently.

[PennSkinsFan]

Since they don't have to go through the Rooney Rule if they hire Williams, if it is to be Williams as the next coach, it should happen quickly. The longer this process drags out, the worse it is for Williams. The fact that they don't want to make any definitive comments about him says that they want to look around.
I agree. The comments on GW were extremely evasive, process has not started yet. Meaning --- there are other options out there.

[greatest2]

Then they changed things recently.

keeps GW alive

[NCskinsfanatic]

I can't understand why anyone ever thought he was going to hire a GM. He and Jerry Jones are of the same philosophy, it's his team and whether he has final say or not he and Vinny will be involved. From JLC's take it seems like Cowher may be the guy... http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/01/the_case_for_cowher.html

[greatest2]

I agree. The comments on GW were extremely evasive, process has not started yet. Meaning --- there are other options out there.

they HAVE to go through the rooney rule. So they can't really say anything else. keeps did say he thinks we have the pieces in place, and was not shy to say that should some things fall our way we could go all the way. tremendous support for staff. I actually think what he said about everything means we are leaning towards in house.

[hail2skins]

Since they don't have to go through the Rooney Rule if they hire Williams, if it is to be Williams as the next coach, it should happen quickly. The longer this process drags out, the worse it is for Williams. The fact that they don't want to make any definitive comments about him says that they want to look around.They do have to go through it.

[akhhorus]

I agree. The comments on GW were extremely evasive, process has not started yet. Meaning --- there are other options out there.

Meaning: clean out your office Gregg.

They do have to go through it.

I double checked it, and they do.

[Canuck]

Then they changed things recently.

I don't think the Rooney rule has changed. I think it's the language in GW's contract that is key. It needs to clearly state that he is Washington's next head coach if/when Gibbs steps down or is fired. I don't think such language is in place in GW's contract so they have to go through the process and comply with the Rooney Rule.

[CNYSkinFan]

JLC's reaction (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/)

My Early Reaction To The Presser
For all fo the yapping about continuity and stability, sure sounds like a blood-letting is upon us.

Owner Dan Snyder was given multiple opportunity to endorse an in-house candidate, and specifically Gregg Williams, and declined to do so, talking about their "process." The only definitive thing he did say if that they don't need a GM, and he's looking for a coach only. He loves their player procurement model, which involved him have intimate involvement in all aspects of negotiations.

[hail2skins]

If they're looking for continuity, I don't see how they keep it by going out of the organization. No coach is going to want to inherit an entire coaching staff. IF they go out, they'll be rebuilding all over again.

Welcome back Marty. :D LMAO.

[bergiemoore]

How does one reconcile the positive things Dan and Gibbs said about maintaining stability with JLC's belief that there will be "blood-letting"?

[hail2skins]

Meaning: clean out your office Gregg.



I double checked it, and they do.I don't know, this could be a cautious move in not endorsing someone. YOu mention a name internal, and NFL police will come knocking at your door.

[CNYSkinFan]

If they're looking for continuity, I don't see how they keep it by going out of the organization. No coach is going to want to inherit an entire coaching staff. IF they go out, they'll be rebuilding all over again.

Welcome back Marty. :D LMAO.
Well Saunders is an option, then they let GW go and promote Blache

Or they hire an offensive coach and let them clean house over there (all of them are Gibbs guys except Saunders, Byner, Lazor) and again promote Blache and he retains the defensive staff


that is some continuity

[hail2skins]

How does one reconcile the positive things Dan and Gibbs said about maintaining stability with JLC's belief that there will be "blood-letting"?Gibbs kept saying how much they like the coaching staff but someone from outside might not.

[dj_stouty]

At least with Gibbs, I felt as if Danny was more reserved with him and deferred to him on many decisions. I don't see Danny giving so much rope with any other coach.

I'd love to see Cowher here, but he wont' like the lack of control he would get under Danny.

Its obvious that GW is not in the mix, otherwise someone would have at least mentioned his name sometime during the press conference.

Who knows...maybe Danny is eyeing up a young coordinator that he can personaly mold and insist on having his hand in the mix. Jason Garrett, anyone? I could see Danny feeling some amount of victory by stealing Jerry's top guy over there in Dallas.

[akhhorus]

If they're looking for continuity, I don't see how they keep it by going out of the organization. No coach is going to want to inherit an entire coaching staff. IF they go out, they'll be rebuilding all over again.

Welcome back Marty. :D LMAO.

Petitbon ain't doing much these days lol.

[hail2skins]

Well Saunders is an option, then they let GW go and promote Blache

Or they hire an offensive coach and let them clean house over there (all of them are Gibbs guys except Saunders, Byner, Lazor) and again promote Blache and he retains the defensive staff


that is some continuitySaunders, yuck. Wouldn't want him as a head coach. I didn't even like his hiring. I think snake every time I see him.

[greatest2]

I don't know, this could be a cautious move in not endorsing someone. YOu mention a name internal, and NFL police will come knocking at your door.

this is where i am leaning. and why would you even endorse the guy a slight bit. just say we haven't started the process and life is easier.

gibbs did say we are really close, and he thinks we have the pieces in place. i can't believe snyder thinks different then gibbs, which means he wants to keep continuity and that means GW or AL. probably GW.

[CNYSkinFan]

Offensive coaching staff:

Al Saunders Assos HC offense
Joe Bugel Assistant HC Offense
Don breaux Offensive Coordintaor
Jack Burns Offensive assistant
Rennie Simmons TE
Ernest Byner RB
Stan Hixon WR
Bill Lazor QB

All the bolded will probably retire with Gibbs. I can see the others being parted with (or foudn roles somewhere) in a new regime.

[bergiemoore]

Gibbs kept saying how much they like the coaching staff but someone from outside might not.

You got that right.

I just don't want to see this entire organization torched while they're coming off a play-off run. After Spurrier, it made sense to make blow up the team and start over. This is a much different team, with much more potential.

[CNYSkinFan]

Saunders, yuck. Wouldn't want him as a head coach. I didn't even like his hiring. I think snake every time I see him.
I agree just supposin

[dj_stouty]

Did anyone else sort of throw up in their mouths when Gibbs said he used to listen to Danny flush the "commode" and listen to Breaux chew ice? I'm not sure which one gives me the worst mental picture.

[greatest2]

How does one reconcile the positive things Dan and Gibbs said about maintaining stability with JLC's belief that there will be "blood-letting"?

my thoughts as well.

here is my thing, JLC does a good job of getting info and releasing it, and giving everything hes got. but as far as what he believes will happen, etc., he stinks.

he thought we would get smoot, pierce, dockery back. also thought gibbs would sign an extensioin (tho almost everyone did). i don't think he is the best at the franchise's pulse, but he is a good reporter of information

[PennSkinsFan]

At least with Gibbs, I felt as if Danny was more reserved with him and deferred to him on many decisions. I don't see Danny giving so much rope with any other coach.

I'd love to see Cowher here, but he wont' like the lack of control he would get under Danny.

Its obvious that GW is not in the mix, otherwise someone would have at least mentioned his name sometime during the press conference.

Who knows...maybe Danny is eyeing up a young coordinator that he can personaly mold and insist on having his hand in the mix. Jason Garrett, anyone? I could see Danny feeling some amount of victory by stealing Jerry's top guy over there in Dallas.

Not sure that it is obvious that GW is out. More I am am thinking about Snyder cryptic nature i think it is because of two things --- one, I don't think Dan Snyder really knows what he wants to do yet, i think he is still in shock a bit --- and two --- he is complying with the rule.

[Redskin4Life]

Offensive coaching staff:

Al Saunders Assos HC offense
Joe Bugel Assistant HC Offense
Don breaux Offensive Coordintaor
Jack Burns Offensive assistant
Rennie Simmons TE
Ernest Byner RB
Stan Hixon WR
Bill Lazor QB

All the bolded will probably retire with Gibbs. I can see the others being parted with (or foudn roles somewhere) in a new regime.
So essentially if we were going to stick with "continuity" and choose GW as the Head, AS as the asst Head/OC... then we need a TE coach and an OL coach.

[hail2skins]

You got that right.

I just don't want to see this entire organization torched while they're coming off a play-off run. After Spurrier, it made sense to make blow up the team and start over. This is a much different team, with much more potential.Gibbs did it after 2005 when he hired Saunders.

[PennSkinsFan]

after reflection on the rule and the way snyder appeared to be shocked by the decision of Gibbs, I am not neccessarily thinking GW is out anymore.

[CNYSkinFan]

Not sure that it is obvious that GW is out. More I am am thinking about Snyder cryptic nature i think it is because of two things --- one, I don't think Dan Snyder really knows what he wants to do yet, i think he is still in shock a bit --- and two --- he is complying with the rule.
They way Gibbs kept saying that he is confident in the Decision Dan will make makes me think they know where they want to go. I don't think that is to GW but you can never tell with this crew

[Battle Cat]

Made me wander when he said he doesn't want to get the next coach in trouble but he feels that the pieces are there for them to win. Does he make that statement if the guy is definitely Gregg Williams?

[dj_stouty]

Not sure that it is obvious that GW is out. More I am am thinking about Snyder cryptic nature i think it is because of two things --- one, I don't think Dan Snyder really knows what he wants to do yet, i think he is still in shock a bit --- and two --- he is complying with the rule.

But I'm surprised that Gibbs didn't even mention GW by name or thank him personally. I understand keeping things under wraps...but not making a peep about the guy could make me believe he isn't in their plans at all.

Who knows...

[SkinsWest]

Dan has to "go through the process." Which includes interviewing a minority. When it's all said and done, I'm guessing GW is the coach. I just hope it isn't another outcome like Richie Pettibone's was.

From Wikipedia ... "He earned his first head coaching position with the Buffalo Bills. As the Bills' head coach, his team was known for highly conservative calls, especially on offense. He was the inspiration for Gregg Easterbrook's designation of "the maroon zone" by constantly punting in opponent territory. Williams was 17-31 as the Bills' coach, and was fired after a 6-10 record in the 2003 season."

[CNYSkinFan]

But I'm surprised that Gibbs didn't even mention GW by name or thank him personally. I understand keeping things under wraps...but not making a peep about the guy could make me believe he isn't in their plans at all.

Who knows...
to play devil's advocate he didnt thatnk ANY of his coaches personally

[hail2skins]

But I'm surprised that Gibbs didn't even mention GW by name or thank him personally. I understand keeping things under wraps...but not making a peep about the guy could make me believe he isn't in their plans at all.

Who knows...Did he mention any coaches by name in terms of appreciation? I missed some of the presser.

[JasonCampbell]

Who knows...maybe Danny is eyeing up a young coordinator that he can personaly mold and insist on having his hand in the mix. Jason Garrett, anyone? I could see Danny feeling some amount of victory by stealing Jerry's top guy over there in Dallas.

Sounds like Norv Turner 2.0

[CNYSkinFan]

Did he mention any coaches by name in terms of appreciation? I missed some of the presser.
No...but he was directly asked about Williams and the ball was hovering over the plate if he wanted it

[dj_stouty]

Did he mention any coaches by name in terms of appreciation? I missed some of the presser.

No...he said he didn't want to say any coaches names specifically. Just seems odd, since this press conference was about Gibbs' departure, not about his successor to the future of the organization. Maybe Gibbs was unsure about the future of his coaches and didn't want to bring any attention to them.

And even if GW was slated to take over the HC position and Al was slated to stay put, wouldn't you think he would still thank them for their contributions? Dunno...just seems wierd.

[JasonCampbell]

I'm don't quite understand why so many people are saying GW is out of the picture. I really think that if Gibbs wants to (and he seems like he does), he can have a huge influence on who Danny hires. I think Gibbs would want someone hired from within (since he said he thinks the team is already setup) and Williams would be his choice.

IMO, Gibbs has changed Snyder. He may not go with the splash like he's done in the past. It would be in the best interest of the franchise to keep with this continuity and run with what has been working (relatively anyway).

[hail2skins]

No...he said he didn't want to say any coaches names specifically. Just seems odd, since this press conference was about Gibbs' departure, not about his successor to the future of the organization. Maybe Gibbs was unsure about the future of his coaches and didn't want to bring any attention to them.

And even if GW was slated to take over the HC position and Al was slated to stay put, wouldn't you think he would still thank them for their contributions? Dunno...just seems wierd.Dunno, maybe he thought name dropping was a bad idea. The fact he didn't name any means he's consistent. :D

[NCskinsfanatic]

I think it comes down to whether Cowher would want the job or not. If not I think GW and maybe Grimm(as a longshot) would be the two candidates considered.

[hail2skins]

I think it comes down to whether Cowher would want the job or not. If not I think GW and maybe Grimm(as a longshot) would be the two candidates considered.I don't think Cowher is in the picture. He's already turned down numerous teams saying he's not ready to return.

[bergiemoore]

Gibbs did it after 2005 when he hired Saunders.

I honestly don't think that was intentional. Gibbs preached ad nauseum about the similarities between their systems, and their common root as being part of the Coryell coaching tree.

Also, they didn't do a wholesale firing of players on offense. They picked up an extra back-up QB and a couple of hot WRs, but kept the entire starting roster pretty much intact. Even the coaching staff all stayed the same.

If a new HC with complete control over the roster comes into the picture, I would expect the roster to overturn by 60% or more, as opposed to the normal yearly 30%, and the coaching staff would be even more dramatically affected.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

I don't think Cowher is in the picture. He's already turned down numerous teams saying he's not ready to return.

I think he at least gets the call as he has gotten with almost every open job this offseason. We should know if he got the call before the weekend I would think.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

The front office structure of personnel guy who is not a GM, a dominant HC and a strong owner can work. Its called the Patriots. Pioli is not a GM.

The only difference is Pioli is far better at his job than Cerato is at his.

[openallnight]

Dan has to "go through the process." Which includes interviewing a minority. When it's all said and done, I'm guessing GW is the coach. I just hope it isn't another outcome like Richie Pettibone's was.


I wouldn't be so fast to jump the gun. Last year everyone in the media and most Steelers fans were convinced that Whisenhutt or Grimm were the heir apparent to Cowher. Then the Steelers go through the process and get blown away by Tomlin. I just hope we do our due diligence and give the process an honest shot and make sure we get the best guy available for the job.

[akhhorus]

I don't think Cowher is in the picture. He's already turned down numerous teams saying he's not ready to return.

And according to PFT(who was right about this for over a year btw), they've talked to Cowher already a lot during the last year or so. I think his coyness might be waiting to see if Gibbs left.

[hessy36]

IIf a new HC with complete control over the roster comes into the picture, I would expect the roster to overturn by 60% or more, as opposed to the normal yearly 30%, and the coaching staff would be even more dramatically affected.

I hate this the most.. I really love the team we have now. SKINS.. all of them.. :( I don't want such a high overturn!

[skinfanjon]

I don't think Cowher is in the picture. He's already turned down numerous teams saying he's not ready to return.

Yeah, but nobody's offered him anything close to $10mil as JLC reported earlier. Plus, our franchise, I think, is more attractive than many other available options.

[hail2skins]

I honestly don't think that was intentional. Gibbs preached ad nauseum about the similarities between their systems, and their common root as being part of the Coryell coaching tree.

Also, they didn't do a wholesale firing of players on offense. They picked up an extra back-up QB and a couple of hot WRs, but kept the entire starting roster pretty much intact. Even the coaching staff all stayed the same.

If a new HC with complete control over the roster comes into the picture, I would expect the roster to overturn by 60% or more, as opposed to the normal yearly 30%, and the coaching staff would be even more dramatically affected.Yes, but there were philosophical differences between the two. Remember Gibbs kept saying in the media that we are a power running team when he got tired of seeing all of the cutesy plays being called and everyone thought he was calling the plays again? It was a blowing up of the team because now they had to learn a new offense that consisted of 700+ pages and took multiple years to comprehend.

[NCskinsfanatic]

I don't think Cowher is in the picture. He's already turned down numerous teams saying he's not ready to return.

Perhaps but look at the franchises he's been associated with..lol. I think they'll explore his interest in the opening, if there is none, then you gotta think Gdub is the guy. The only other scenario I could even forsee would be maybe Grimm and to be honest I dont know that a Russ hiring wouldnt result in a coaching overhaul on both sides of the ball either. In other words...if GW doesnt get the HC gig, I think he's gone IMO.

[hail2skins]

Yeah, but nobody's offered him anything close to $10mil as JLC reported earlier. Plus, our franchise, I think, is more attractive than many other available options.How is that? Coaches want some control and I get the feeling Dan and Gibbs (special advisor) don't want to overhaul it. That's just a feeling I get.

Thinking about it though, maybe Gibbs name is attached to attract someone from outside. Who knows.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

Yeah, but nobody's offered him anything close to $10mil as JLC reported earlier. Plus, our franchise, I think, is more attractive than many other available options.

Our franchise has to be the most attractive job opening. I also think a lot of people inside the NFL (not media) consider Snyder to be an asset and not a liability.

[silverspring]

It actually sounds like snyder was expecting gibbs to stay and if that was the case I can understand him being quiet about moving forward even if he is considering GW. I am not looking forward to cowher, i hope that is avoided, but it certainly sounds likely.

[Keino]

Was I the only one waiting for Snyder to use a fourth letter beginning with a "P" when he was going over the words:

Admiration
Appreciation
Respect
Persistence


I would've cracked up if he came up with words that form the acronym AARP.

[hail2skins]

Our franchise has to be the most attractive job opening. I also think a lot of people inside the NFL (not media) consider Snyder to be an asset and not a liability.His money is the asset, not Snyder himself.

[hail2skins]

Was I the only one waiting for Snyder to use a fourth letter beginning with a "P" when he was going over the words:

Admiration
Appreciation
Respect
Persistence


I would've cracked up if he came up with words that form the acronym AARP.LMAO, good catch.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

How is that? Coaches want some control and I get the feeling Dan and Gibbs (special advisor) don't want to overhaul it. That's just a feeling I get.

Thinking about it though, maybe Gibbs name is attached to attract someone from outside. Who knows.

Here is why we are attractive. So long Snyder believes in you, like he did Gibbs and would Cowher, you have an open checkbook. If Cowher said I want these three players, Dan would say give me the addresses to send Redskin 1.

If Snyder doesn't believe in you, then there will be friction. I don't think Gibbs has any input on anything by the time the season starts. I don't think he wants any input.

[Biggie]

You know, before today, I was of the opinion that Gibbs needed to retire for this team to get farther than it has. Now, with Snyder shooting down any thought of a GM and the possibility of GW actually succeeding him, I have a very bad feeling about this offseason.

[NCskinsfanatic]

And according to PFT(who was right about this for over a year btw), they've talked to Cowher already a lot during the last year or so. I think his coyness might be waiting to see if Gibbs left.

I really think it's a possibility, not sure what that means for the D because we arent even close to running a 3-4 to "the chins" liking. I do enjoy the fact that he's an NCSU alum although I know CarMike wouldn't:D

[akhhorus]

I really think it's a possibility, not sure what that means for the D because we arent even close to running a 3-4 to "the chins" liking. I do enjoy the fact that he's an NCSU alum although I know CarMike wouldn't:D

I actually don't think it would take too much tailoring(I did a potential plan in my Skins' plan which will be delayed a bit) to go over to the 3-4 Cover 3.

[hail2skins]

Here is why we are attractive. So long Snyder believes in you, like he did Gibbs and would Cowher, you have an open checkbook. If Cowher said I want these three players, Dan would say give me the addresses to send Redskin 1.

If Snyder doesn't believe in you, then there will be friction. I don't think Gibbs has any input on anything by the time the season starts. I don't think he wants any input.Then that's not being an asset imo. Marty got 1 year after ending the season successfully. What's his name got two and should have only gotten 1 and he got them the players they wanted. An owner that is an asset to me is one that let's you do your job. He did that with Gibbs but was still very involved as Gibbs said. That's Gibbs personality though and another coach might not share that philosophy in having the owner involved. Just some thoughts.

[bergiemoore]

Yes, but there were philosophical differences between the two. Remember Gibbs kept saying in the media that we are a power running team when he got tired of seeing all of the cutesy plays being called and everyone thought he was calling the plays again? It was a blowing up of the team because now they had to learn a new offense that consisted of 700+ pages and took multiple years to comprehend.

Oh yeah, there's no doubt that there was a huge divide between their philosophy that dwarfed any similarity in their respective systems. Gibbs is of the opinion that you run a play until the defense stops it, while Saunders takes the approach that you should never call the same play twice in the same game. The result of this was the melt down of 06, which, compounded with the defense's self-destruction, led to an abysmal record.

Personally, I think Saunders' philosophy and play-calling are more successful than Gibbs', especially considering the lack of consistency along the offensive line this year.

[hail2skins]

You know, before today, I was of the opinion that Gibbs needed to retire for this team to get farther than it has. Now, with Snyder shooting down any thought of a GM and the possibility of GW actually succeeding him, I have a very bad feeling about this offseason.Stay positive and let's see what happens.

[NCskinsfanatic]

I actually don't think it would take too much tailoring(I did a potential plan in my Skins' plan which will be delayed a bit) to go over to the 3-4 Cover 3.

delays are inevitable...lol

[hail2skins]

Oh yeah, there's no doubt that there was a huge divide between their philosophy that dwarfed any similarity in their respective systems. Gibbs is of the opinion that you run a play until the defense stops it, while Saunders takes the approach that you should never call the same play twice in the same game. The result of this was the melt down of 06, which, compounded with the defense's self-destruction, led to an abysmal record.

Personally, I think Saunders' philosophy and play-calling are more successful than Gibbs', especially considering the lack of consistency along the offensive line this year.I was with you up until the last sentence. Saunders likes to stretch the field, if you don't have consistency along the offensive line, that's a bad idea imo.

[hail2skins]

I actually don't think it would take too much tailoring(I did a potential plan in my Skins' plan which will be delayed a bit) to go over to the 3-4 Cover 3.A nose tackle, several more linebackers, another end and more safeties.

[bergiemoore]

I was with you up until the last sentence. Saunders likes to stretch the field, if you don't have consistency along the offensive line, that's a bad idea imo.

They weren't up to the power running team, this year. Fabini and Heyer were better in pass-pro, and Kendal didn't pull well enough to run the counter. Since Gibbs philosophy is a run-first mentality, these guys would never get it done. Saunders system is able to use the pass to set up the run.

[NCskinsfanatic]

A nose tackle, several more linebackers, another end and more safeties.

Well that sounds more like a kids christmas list than an offseason possibility :D

[akhhorus]

A nose tackle, several more linebackers, another end and more safeties.

Golston played NT at UGA. We need a SS, 1-maybe 2 3-4 OLBs(I think Chris Wilson could be a 3-4 elephant easily) and another End. Very doable.

[hail2skins]

They weren't up to the power running team, this year. Fabini and Heyer were better in pass-pro, and Kendal didn't pull well enough to run the counter. Since Gibbs philosophy is a run-first mentality, these guys would never get it done. Saunders system is able to use the pass to set up the run.Linemen prefer run blocking to pass blocking.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

Then that's not being an asset imo. Marty got 1 year after ending the season successfully. What's his name got two and should have only gotten 1 and he got them the players they wanted. An owner that is an asset to me is one that let's you do your job. He did that with Gibbs but was still very involved as Gibbs said. That's Gibbs personality though and another coach might not share that philosophy in having the owner involved. Just some thoughts.

I think/hope Snyder is different now having learned a lot from Gibbs. I think he wants a relationship with the next guy like he had with Gibbs, which is why Cowher would make sense. I can't think of one time that Snyder was heavy-handed with Gibbs.

I'm not sure if you can use the Marty or Spurrier years against Snyder anymore. But I most certainly could be reaching/wishing in my assessment.

[hail2skins]

Ha, check out this crap list of eligibles from Clayton at ESPN:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=3186258#redskinscandidates

[akhhorus]

Ha, check out this crap list of eligibles from Clayton at ESPN:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=3186258#redskinscandidates

If its not Williams or Cowher, I could really buy Caldwell from Indy.

[csquared]

Ha, check out this crap list of eligibles from Clayton at ESPN:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=3186258#redskinscandidates

As much as i hate Billick i think he would be the best one out of that list.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

Ha, check out this crap list of eligibles from Clayton at ESPN:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=3186258#redskinscandidates

Billick and Snyder would be oil and water, which for anyone who is not a fan of the Redskins would be fun to see.

Caldwell gets an interview for sure. I don't know where I stand on Singletary. Why did Atlanta and Baltimore sour on him so quickly? Why hasn't the 49er defense been better?

[SkinsfaninNJ]

As much as i hate Billick i think he would be the best one out of that list.

The only coach with a bigger ego that Gregg Williams is Brian Billick.

[hail2skins]

As much as i hate Billick i think he would be the best one out of that list.Billick would destroy Campbell like he did the QB's in Baltimore. No way.

[hail2skins]

There's a video on that link of Mike and Mike and they have Mort on the radio and he says a lot of good things about Gibbs. He specifically said he thought he had a hall of fame coaching year this year. He said how you hear the players today don't connect with older coaches. He said that was not the case in Washington.

Clayton also said in a video that he thinks GW is the front runner for the job and that's why Gibbs is staying on through the hiring process.

[csquared]

Billick would destroy Campbell like he did the QB's in Baltimore. No way.

I dont think he destroyed any Qb's there. The Qb's he had were either 1 hit wonders, end of career guys, or overated guys.

[bergiemoore]

Linemen prefer run blocking to pass blocking.

It's a moot point if they suck at it.

[bergiemoore]

The only coach with a bigger ego that Gregg Williams is Brian Billick.

Ditto. He's the one guy hanging around that I would absolutely HATE to see get the HC job in DC.

[RicFlairOne]

There's a video on that link of Mike and Mike and they have Mort on the radio and he says a lot of good things about Gibbs. He specifically said he thought he had a hall of fame coaching year this year. He said how you hear the players today don't connect with older coaches. He said that was not the case in Washington.

Clayton also said in a video that he thinks GW is the front runner for the job and that's why Gibbs is staying on through the hiring process.

I saw it live. Did anyone else see the part where Snyder helped provide Schottenhimer's son Brian a private jet and medical help for his cancer?

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

As much as i hate Billick i think he would be the best one out of that list.
oh hell to the no, lol.

after wrapping my mind around this whole situation, for continuity reasons i think it would be best to promote from within and appoint GW head coach. hopefully he truly has learned how to be a better head coach since working with coach gibbs for the past four years.

[akhhorus]

oh hell to the no, lol.

after wrapping my mind around this whole situation, for continuity reasons i think it would be best to promote from within and appoint GW head coach. hopefully he truly has learned how to be a better head coach since working with coach gibbs for the past four years.

I would agree 100% if our current situation was a good one.

[csquared]

oh hell to the no, lol.

after wrapping my mind around this whole situation, for continuity reasons i think it would be best to promote from within and appoint GW head coach. hopefully he truly has learned how to be a better head coach since working with coach gibbs for the past four years.

Now Lady dont get me wrong. I only said out of that list. Im in Annapolis. Your in what Howard county? So we both get the local Baltimore news. And im sure we hate the man just as much as each other. My comment was on that list and only that list. There are a few others id rather have.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

I would agree 100% if our current situation was a good one.
lol, i hear you but its not a dire one. i think in the back of my mind, it would also be easier to fire GW after a year here, lol. he has already been here long enough so it wouldn't seem like we are going through new coaches like underwear....

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

Now Lady dont get me wrong. I only said out of that list. Im in Annapolis. Your in what Howard county? So we both get the local Baltimore news. And im sure we hate the man just as much as each other. My comment was on that list and only that list. There are a few others id rather have.
yep, howard county it is. even off of that list i'd say hell no, lol. i can't stand the guy and the only reason the ravens even won a super bowl under his watch was because of marvin lewis' defense in 2000....might as well hire him.

[csquared]

yep, howard county it is. even off of that list i'd say hell no, lol. i can't stand the guy and the only reason the ravens even won a super bowl under his watch was because of marvin lewis' defense in 2000....might as well hire him.

I agree completely. BUT i think Garrett is looking good because of the talent he has. Same goes for Caldwell. Id rather have an experienced head coach so that knocks all those guys off my list.

[WRSK1NS]

JLC's reaction (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/)


You know reading through all this stuff about endorsing and not endorsing, I believe Snyder has so much respect for Gibbs that he doesn't want to take any attention away from Gibbs on his day. I think he will wait until later to name a head coach and not detract from Joe.

[akhhorus]

lol, i hear you but its not a dire one. i think in the back of my mind, it would also be easier to fire GW after a year here, lol. he has already been here long enough so it wouldn't seem like we are going through new coaches like underwear....

I would do that if Cowher and a list of other candidates said no. I don't think that giving Williams a one year audition is a super idea because of Williams will bring in a draft class and more of his guys, then they might be out and in another system after a year?

[Syllable]

What makes you guys think Cowher will come into a team if he doesn't have a gm that he respects?

[akhhorus]

What makes you guys think Cowher will come into a team if he doesn't have a gm that he respects?

He'll effectively be the GM through personnel people he'd bring in.

[Syllable]

He'll effectively be the GM through personnel people he'd bring in.

So he will be evaluating talent as well? I am not sure, I think coach and gm should be separate.

[akhhorus]

So he will be evaluating talent as well? I am not sure, I think coach and gm should be separate.

I believe, based on comments made by guys like Peach King/Pastabelli/etc, that he'll make the decisions, but the personnel people will be doing the scouting/evaluation. Cowher has the final say on picks/signings.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

I agree completely. BUT i think Garrett is looking good because of the talent he has. Same goes for Caldwell. Id rather have an experienced head coach so that knocks all those guys off my list.
ok, well that explanation makes sense, but that would be my WORST nightmare. kinda like when we signed deion sanders. :o

I would do that if Cowher and a list of other candidates said no. I don't think that giving Williams a one year audition is a super idea because of Williams will bring in a draft class and more of his guys, then they might be out and in another system after a year?
you don't think any of gregg's possible selections would be any good outside of his system?

[akhhorus]

you don't think any of gregg's possible selections would be any good outside of his system?

I'm sure some of them would be able to used in another system, but why create that much potential chaos? A one year audition is like naming him interim head coach for a full year(including the offseason, draft, TC) until he coaches his way into the job full time.

[dj_stouty]

I'd revolt if Billick was the next Redskins coach.

I'm currently on board for Cowher...with Garrett or Caldwell as 2nd and 3rd options.

[shally]

I would do that if Cowher and a list of other candidates said no. I don't think that giving Williams a one year audition is a super idea because of Williams will bring in a draft class and more of his guys, then they might be out and in another system after a year?

like pettibone.. he left the team in tatters after 1 year..

better to clear the decks and start with a young guy and stick with him

[shally]

I'd revolt if Billick was the next Redskins coach.

I'm currently on board for Cowher...with Garrett or Caldwell as 2nd and 3rd options.

billick would be a total disaster.. he has proved he cannot groom qb's or even judge them in b'more..

i am down with cowher, but if he isnt named and they go with garrett or caldwell i dont see how anyone can trust vinnie and snyder to run the front office..Lord help us..

[dj_stouty]

billick would be a total disaster.. he has proved he cannot groom qb's or even judge them in b'more..

i am down with cowher, but if he isnt named and they go with garrett or caldwell i dont see how anyone can trust vinnie and snyder to run the front office..Lord help us..

I'm of the belief that Vinnie and Snyder would continue to make personnel decisions even if Al or GW were promoted from within.

Only a guy like Cowher could write his own ticket and require decision making responsibilities.

So if Cowher is out...and Vinny and Danny are still in the mix, you might as well go with a Jarrett or Caldwell who may be able to make a necessary change.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

I'm of the belief that Vinnie and Snyder would continue to make personnel decisions even if Al or GW were promoted from within.

Only a guy like Cowher could write his own ticket and require decision making responsibilities.

So if Cowher is out...and Vinny and Danny are still in the mix, you might as well go with a Jarrett or Caldwell who may be able to make a necessary change.

Any way you cut it, Snyder and Cerato will be involved. What we need is someone who can actually evaluate and pick talent (to offset the suckiness of Cerato) and someone with enough cache to be the leading voice in the room with Snyder. Assuming you overall approved of the players Gibbs brought in, Gibbs was that guy. Cowher has the presence to control the room, but we really don't know about his ability to judge talent. Guys like Caldwell, Garrett, etc., may be great talent evaluators, but probably do not have the presence to control the room.

In a word, we may be screwed.:cry: