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RedskinsDave
01-10-2008, 10:40 AM
The Redskins need a football person running the football operation

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/09/AR2008010903708.html

I cannot for the life of me figure out how how a smart man like Snyder can be so ignorant. I know egos can get in the way or reason but you don't become as wealthy as Snyder thinking you are smarter than everyone else.

CarMike
01-10-2008, 10:42 AM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/09/AR2008010903708.html

I cannot for the life of me figure out how how a smart man like Snyder can be so ignorant. I know egos can get in the way or reason but you don't become as wealthy as Snyder thinking you are smarter than everyone else.

Couldn't agree more Dave. It's like the Redskins is his own fantasy football team. And he's not going to give up any control of his team.

esmith1790
01-10-2008, 11:12 AM
Couldn't agree more Dave. It's like the Redskins is his own fantasy football team. And he's not going to give up any control of his team.

I know Gibbs had a lot of control, but even Jerry Jones realized that he needed a Football guy(parcells) to turn things around after several loosing seasons. Jerry Jones even won 3 superbowls, so you would think he would have been even more hard-headed in making a change. Loosing will eventually make you change your ways.

1 big difference between the skins and boys, is that the boys fans are fare-weather fans, so if the cowboys arent winning the fans stop going, it affects JJ pocket book, unlike Synder who gets all the money no matter what. Win or lose.

Dolla Bill
01-10-2008, 11:16 AM
I know Gibbs had a lot of control, but even Jerry Jones realized that he needed a Football guy(parcells) to turn things around after several loosing seasons. Jerry Jones even won 3 superbowls, so you would think he would have been even more hard-headed in making a change. Loosing will eventually make you change your ways.

1 big difference between the skins and boys, is that the boys fans are fare-weather fans, so if the cowboys arent winning the fans stop going, it affects JJ pocket book, unlike Synder who gets all the money no matter what. Win or lose.

I really agree with this statement. As soon as Danny's wallet gets affected, he will change his tune. Until then, we are going to be mediocre.

RedskinsDave
01-10-2008, 11:16 AM
I know Gibbs had a lot of control, but even Jerry Jones realized that he needed a Football guy(parcells) to turn things around after several loosing seasons. Jerry Jones even won 3 superbowls, so you would think he would have been even more hard-headed in making a change. Loosing will eventually make you change your ways.

1 big difference between the skins and boys, is that the boys fans are fare-weather fans, so if the cowboys arent winning the fans stop going, it affects JJ pocket book, unlike Synder who gets all the money no matter what. Win or lose.

Thanks for the thoughts but I do NOT want this to end up a Jones-Snyder comparison thread and I will delete it and start over if that happens.

OCSkinzFan
01-10-2008, 11:25 AM
"Boss of Everything Football."

That means GM right?

ChapelHillMatt
01-10-2008, 11:46 AM
Well he brought in Joe Gibbs and gave him all the control he wanted, I'm not sure what else he could have done short of hiring a GM. I think we all agree having a GM would be the best but it's not going to happen for whatever reason. Hard to rip the man though for bringing in a Hall of Famer and letting him have whatever players he wants.

I think a mistake fans make is ripping Snyder for the mistakes Gibbs made. That's not to say Snyder hasn't made mistakes but he brought in a football person to run things and it still didn't work.

skinsfan36
01-10-2008, 11:49 AM
yes we need one but we will not get one :(

Keino
01-10-2008, 11:59 AM
I know Gibbs had a lot of control, but even Jerry Jones realized that he needed a Football guy(parcells) to turn things around after several loosing seasons. Jerry Jones even won 3 superbowls, so you would think he would have been even more hard-headed in making a change. Loosing will eventually make you change your ways.

1 big difference between the skins and boys, is that the boys fans are fare-weather fans, so if the cowboys arent winning the fans stop going, it affects JJ pocket book, unlike Synder who gets all the money no matter what. Win or lose.

Jones is a football guy though. He played and has been around the game at high levels which makes him different from Snyder on that point.

JJ's success is exactly why Snyder thinks he can do what he does, but it seems to me that the results are self-evident.

colkurtz
01-10-2008, 12:21 PM
Gibbs was brought in with total control of all things football. If Cowher comes here he will want the same thing - and get it.

I think we need a GM, but will never get one as long as snyder is owner. However, some of the winners in the NFL don't have a GM.

SkinsfaninNJ
01-10-2008, 12:22 PM
Jones is a football guy though. He played and has been around the game at high levels which makes him different from Snyder on that point.

JJ's success is exactly why Snyder thinks he can do what he does, but it seems to me that the results are self-evident.

But before Parcells, Jones never had a Vinny C. See how lucky we are.:)

bergiemoore
01-10-2008, 12:41 PM
"Boss of Everything Football."

That means GM right?

I don't think the title is important, just the idea that the owner is not making decisions about which coach, player, assistant, etc. to hire. You hire a savvy football guy and give him a title that let's everyone know that he's the final say in all things personnel related, including the hiring and firing of coaches.

shally
01-10-2008, 12:46 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/09/AR2008010903708.html

I cannot for the life of me figure out how how a smart man like Snyder can be so ignorant. I know egos can get in the way or reason but you don't become as wealthy as Snyder thinking you are smarter than everyone else.


elfin wrote the same column in today's wash times..

the problem is that snyder is making money as though he had a printing press and that stokes his ego. maybe he actually does think he is smarter than everyone else..

shally
01-10-2008, 12:48 PM
Jones is a football guy though. He played and has been around the game at high levels which makes him different from Snyder on that point.

JJ's success is exactly why Snyder thinks he can do what he does, but it seems to me that the results are self-evident.

you hit it exactly right !!

that is what i believe as well.. if it werent for jones success, snyder might have caved by now

Biggie
01-10-2008, 02:45 PM
The one thing I liked about that article was that it provided a lot of possible candidates. Other than that, nothing new.

RedskinsDave
01-10-2008, 03:57 PM
Gibbs was brought in with total control of all things football. If Cowher comes here he will want the same thing - and get it.

I think we need a GM, but will never get one as long as snyder is owner. However, some of the winners in the NFL don't have a GM.

If they don't have one by title, they have one in theory or at least a competent VP of Player Personnel. We have Danny and Vinny. Ugh.