greg Blache to be DC

[remaxjon]

two sources now
http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/0108/491133.html

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/s...d.php?t=235450

[CNYSkinFan]

rejoice ye fans of Redskins!!! The time of our ascendence is near!!!!!

[shally]

rejoice ye fans of Redskins!!! The time of our ascendence is near!!!!!


amazing how gloom can turn to elation with just one move.. the front office managed both change and continuity at the same time

[Redskin006]

amazing how gloom can turn to elation with just one move.. the front office managed both change and continuity at the same time

Agreed. Great move by the FO. He is a Gregg Williams disciple, but also understands the importance of D-Line as he has coached the line for so long. This means that the majority of our defensive players will be coming back and I'm certain we will upgrade the defensive line as necessary. I think the hiring of Zorn and retaining as Blache as our coordinators will be good for the team and actually may be upgrades over GW and Saunders. But, we can only wait and see. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

[esmith1790]

amazing how gloom can turn to elation with just one move.. the front office managed both change and continuity at the same time
It would seem to be YES and NO. If SPAGS is hired to be the HC dont you think he would have some input on "D" adding his style and flair to it? So there would be some change, not sure how much.


So if AS gets the Rams job as being reported and if GW gets a new DC job soon, will there be a stickied thread that follows their side of the ball success?

[Hrabanmaur]

I think some continuity for the defense was particularly important with the passing of Sean this season. They need someone that will respect and understand their pain. Blache has suffered like the rest of them. Good coach and good hire.

[shally]

It would seem to be YES and NO. If SPAGS is hired to be the HC dont you think he would have some input on "D" adding his style and flair to it? So there would be some change, not sure how much.


So if AS gets the Rams job as being reported and if GW gets a new DC job soon, will there be a stickied thread that follows their side of the ball success?

i dont really care what AS or GW do once they leave the skins

and, yes, spags would set the overall tone of the defense and the style. he would need to rely on blache to begin with as to where personnel changes would happen
but no doubt the defense would reflect his overall philosophy of attacking

for certain, no matter who is named HC i expect a re emphasis on the importance of the d line.. that is pure pleasure for me to contemplate after GW's opposite philosophy

i doubt we will be taking a corner in round 1...

[chrisbcbu]

i have no problems with who was hired for OC/DC positions. I actually like it.

Maybe now we will focus on DL in the draft. LOL

[Lavar703]

Im extremely pleased with this and have been a Blache fan since hes been here. The work hes done with Montgomery and Golston has been nothing short of amazing, turning late rounders into big contributers. He deserved this job and whomever becomes headcoach of this team is getting one hell of a coach on his staff. Kudos to Snyder and Cerrato for this move, and congrats to Blache because his hardwork didnt go unnoticed.

[KidBroSweets]

So does this mean Fassel would have the edge of Spagnuolo? Spags is a defensive guy and you'd think he'd want to bring one of his guys over for the DC position.

[joethefan]

do you think he'll cut his boy daniels?

[ChapelHillMatt]

It's weird to me the Front Office is hiring the coordinators, I thought this was the coaches job.

I like the Blache move though, I think he'll be a very good coordinator.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

I like the Blanche hire. He is well respected and has done well everywhere he has been. He also is a big believer in building from the front 4 backwards.

I think he and Spags can coexist. They run a similar system and Blanche doesn't strike as the type of guy who has a giant ego and can't get along with a defensive HC.

I still say the list on the HC are 1. Spags 2. Fassel 3. Meeks.

The next hurdle is to see if Spags even takes the interview.

[WRSK1NS]

Didn't see the Blache hiring coming, that is pretty cool!!

Question to all you football gurus (AKH, CNY Shally and others).....When a new OC/DC moves up in ranks from being a position coach, where does their playbook come from? Do they keep the guys playbook that they worked for? Do they start from scratch and draw up their own books? Do they have a collection or "scrapbook" of plays they collected along the way?

[jtovb2005]

It's weird to me the Front Office is hiring the coordinators, I thought this was the coaches job.

I was thinking the same thing. Maybe this was all done already talking to who the next Head Coach will be?

[Hrabanmaur]

do you think he'll cut his boy daniels?

Only if Snyder, Cerrato, and the new HC give him permission to.... I'd say their decisions regarding salary cap numbers will be the overriding factor here, rather than Blache's "yea" or "nay."

[LATrueRedskin]

And the news I've been waiting for: Kirk Olivadotti will return as well.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/

[VegasSkinsFan]

And the news I've been waiting for: Kirk Olivadotti will return as well.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/

Good news, i thought he did a good job with the lb position. GO SKINS !!!!

[shally]

And the news I've been waiting for: Kirk Olivadotti will return as well.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/

totally agree. great news... he will be a DC soon enough... blache is not young and kirk would make a superb DC in training

[chrisbcbu]

Here is Snyder remarks on the hiring of the Coordinators. This is from ES.

The process of selecting a new head coach continues, although no hire is planned until after the Super Bowl so as not to distract from the Championship game as well as to keep open all our options,” Snyder added. “We are on track with our interviews, but in the interim we also are filling our coaching positions and re-signing several existing staff members. During our interviews with prospective head coaches we heard time and again how highly respected some of our 2007 assistant coaches were and who they would select to fill out their staffs. That intelligence is helping guide our hiring decisions.”

[ChapelHillMatt]

Here is Snyder remarks on the hiring of the Coordinators. This is from ES.

Sounds to me like they are waiting to hire Spag doesn't it?

[lorimike]

Im extremely pleased with this and have been a Blache fan since hes been here. The work hes done with Montgomery and Golston has been nothing short of amazing, turning late rounders into big contributers. He deserved this job and whomever becomes headcoach of this team is getting one hell of a coach on his staff. Kudos to Snyder and Cerrato for this move, and congrats to Blache because his hardwork didnt go unnoticed.<<,<

Doesn't the head coach usually pick his staff? Seems like we are going about this backwards by hiring coordinators but no coach. If nothing else I feel that a new coach and defensive coordinator could possibly lead to more draft picks being spent on defensive lineman. I'm quite sick of the little 190 lbs cornerback- they are all useless without a consistant pass rush

[Jon Creveling]

Initial thought is that this is a good thing. Like others have pointed to before his work with Monty and to lesser extents Golston and Wilson have been key and worthy of praise. I like the in house move. I'm all in for this (Blanche) my only concern, and it's realy the only one I have is that he must raise his voice with the F.O. and make the line a demand! I will buy that he was often overruled by G.W. as far as the line goes. I see this as a prelude to Fassel as H.C. , but anyway Congrats to Blanche.

[akhhorus]

Here is Snyder remarks on the hiring of the Coordinators. This is from ES.

They have their coach. They're just waiting for his season to end it sounds like.

[skinfanjon]

totally agree. great news... he will be a DC soon enough... blache is not young and kirk would make a superb DC in training

There's that continuity we were promised, its almost certain we will not be blowing up the defense as much as building on it.

[DCassain21]

amazing how gloom can turn to elation with just one move.. the front office managed both change and continuity at the same time

This is the best news i've read coming out of redskin nation for a long time now.

[CNYSkinFan]

And the news I've been waiting for: Kirk Olivadotti will return as well.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/
yep that is awesome as well. This kid is a keeper, he will be a DC some year, count it

[Fathead]

Wait, the sky isn't falling? We aren't all about to die? Because that sure has been the tone of this board the last week.







I like this move. Get the D line to put some pressure on occassionally and all of sudden this defense goes from decent to great.

[chrisbcbu]

Is Blache going to bring in another DL coach to take his place or is he going to be DC/DL coach?

Also are they going to keep Jerry Gray as DB coach?

[FanFromArizona]

They have their coach. They're just waiting for his season to end it sounds like.

I agree, and I actually hope it's the Patriots dude. I'd much rather be new on the offensive side of the ball and leave the D side of coaches (and the veteran leadership) alone. Blache will manage his personnel just fine.

[csquared]

So does this mean we can take 75% of the board off suicide watch?

[nicefellow31]

They have their coach. They're just waiting for his season to end it sounds like.

When were they able to talk with anybody on either the Patriots and Giants? If I remember correctly, you can only talk with the assistants during a bye week. The Skins had a coach and were preparing for the Seahawks during the Patriots bye week. The Giants didn't have a bye. So if we talked to either Spags or McDaniels, wouldn't the Skins be guilty of tampering? If so, what is the penalty?

[TrueOracle]

If our FO talks to McDaniels it will be to simply TALK. He has as much of a chance at LEADING this team as I do the Catholic church. They're waiting to talk to the NYG guy (I don't wanna butcher his name). But personally, I think Meeks is the best candidate currently.

Snyder would be using Blue Magic if he even thought about McDaniels. Get Frank Lucas outta here!!!

[warpaint]

If our FO talks to McDaniels it will be to simply TALK. He has as much of a chance at LEADING this team as I do the Catholic church. They're waiting to talk to the NYG guy (I don't wanna butcher his name). But personally, I think Meeks is the best candidate currently.

Snyder would be using Blue Magic if he even thought about McDaniels. Get Frank Lucas outta here!!!

we are talking about snyder here, think he is close to 43 now, he wasnt much older than mcdaniels when he bought the redskins, why wouldnt his mind set be if he was old enough to own the redskins why wouldnt mcdaniels be old enough to be the h.c. way things are going wouldnt surprise me at all for him to do something like this. heck guess josh could be like gibbs,just throw the red flag,and call the time outs.

[techskinsfan]

i like this move...i had this in the back of my mind if they snubbed GW as a way to keep guys from wanting to leave and blache has been a DC before im pretty sure...also after researchin i was down on spags but i think he would bring it in DC...now if we can get byner back i would be very happy...and not hiring fassel

[greatest2]

anybody know where to find stats on greg's style of defense when with chicago. what percent of the time he blitz? his personnel? his style and tendencies? i have no idea where to find this old info, does anybody else?

i expect hard hitting defense and more aggressive one, but i don't know greg's style from Chicago.

[skinsfan45]

since we will no longer have GW - i will just wait and see what Blache brings -- hope he will beef up the line and continue being aggressive - if we can turn up the pressure from the ends, even better

[Syllable]

Does anyone have Blache's Resume up to this point?

[ChiefPowhatan17]

I like the hiring of Greg Blache, if it ain't broke don't fix it. But, obviously the offense has been broke a few times under Al in Danny's eyes.

[smoak]

So does this mean we can take 75% of the board off suicide watch?

Put me on the "wanting to take a dump on Danny's desk" watch. So you're most likely hiring a defensive head coach and not allowing the guy to pick his staff???

Ah well. At least this way the Redskin are sure to surpass my expectation b/c I am thining we'll be "Dolphin-esque" next season.

[OCSkinzFan]

Put me on the "wanting to take a dump on Danny's desk" watch. So you're most likely hiring a defensive head coach and not allowing the guy to pick his staff???

Ah well. At least this way the Redskin are sure to surpass my expectation b/c I am thining we'll be "Dolphin-esque" next season.

Yea, but they'll call it "growing pains."

[IowaSkinsFan]

Ah well, looks like Phillip Daniels will be here another season.

[smoak]

Ah well, looks like Phillip Daniels will be here another season.

EXACTLY MY POINT!!!!! Blache brought PD here and is probably the main reason the man is on the team. Why are we excited about this again???? Help me see the burgundy and gold light.

[IowaSkinsFan]

I'm not excited about it at all. You fire GW to promote Greg Blache who was hired by Williams? Makes no sense. This is akin to firing Norv Turner and having Terrie Robiskie finish out the season.

Additionally, the hiring of Zorn all but rules out Josh McDaniel of the Pats, IMO. Why would McDaniel come to a team with a new OC whose offensive philosophy is diametrically opposed to that of yours? Plus, wouldn't McDaniel want to call the plays? Wouldn't that why he would be getting the job anyway?

I am at a loss as to why they are waiting for the Super Bowl to be over to announce a HC, it can't be the Pats guy or the Jints DC now that we have our own coordinators in place.

Watch out for Pepper Rodgers!

[lakeskin]

I'm not excited about it at all. You fire GW to promote Greg Blache who was hired by Williams? Makes no sense. This is akin to firing Norv Turner and having Terrie Robiskie finish out the season.

Additionally, the hiring of Zorn all but rules out Josh McDaniel of the Pats, IMO. Why would McDaniel come to a team with a new OC whose offensive philosophy is diametrically opposed to that of yours? Plus, wouldn't McDaniel want to call the plays? Wouldn't that why he would be getting the job anyway?

I am at a loss as to why they are waiting for the Super Bowl to be over to announce a HC, it can't be the Pats guy or the Jints DC now that we have our own coordinators in place.

Watch out for Pepper Rodgers!

Your avatar made me lol. Good post too.

[Meatsnack]

I'm not excited about it at all. You fire GW to promote Greg Blache who was hired by Williams? Makes no sense. This is akin to firing Norv Turner and having Terrie Robiskie finish out the season.

Additionally, the hiring of Zorn all but rules out Josh McDaniel of the Pats, IMO. Why would McDaniel come to a team with a new OC whose offensive philosophy is diametrically opposed to that of yours? Plus, wouldn't McDaniel want to call the plays? Wouldn't that why he would be getting the job anyway?

I am at a loss as to why they are waiting for the Super Bowl to be over to announce a HC, it can't be the Pats guy or the Jints DC now that we have our own coordinators in place.

Watch out for Pepper Rodgers!Dick Vermeil. Lock him up. Championship!

[PennSkinsFan]

This all point to Jim Fassel, like it or not

[bigcmr]

Snyder and Vinny make a smart move. Good hire!!!

[JasonCampbell]

Ugh:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/26/AR2008012602275_2.html?sid=ST2008012602667

Although Williams prefers to blitz more than Blache, players said, they only expect to see subtle differences, if any, in the scheme the team had while Williams was in charge. "Coach Blache and Coach Williams share the same type of attitude, as far as when to get after guys and when to pressure guys . . . when to just be physical," Alexander said. "With the personnel we have why would we change that?"

[skinsfan36]

this is great news and a great hire he is turning monty into a beats,developing golston and wilson. when we draft him a dlinemen look out. im very excited to see what he can do. gald to see us keep kirk olivadatti also he could be the dc of the future

[CNYSkinFan]

Ugh:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/26/AR2008012602275_2.html?sid=ST2008012602667
if he tightens up the 15 yard cushions, does not play safeties 45 yards deep, and plays more man to man, then I will be happy with the amount of blitzing we do

[whitskins]

if he tightens up the 15 yard cushions, does not play safeties 45 yards deep, and plays more man to man, then I will be happy with the amount of blitzing we do

Yeah, the amount of blitzing is not an issue. I actually remember reading some articles before about how GW's defense was more productive when he blitzed much less.

Hopefully what Blache brings is a commitment to upgrading the front four and generating a pass rush upfront.

Pass rush is the issue, not blitzing. And a lack of pass rushing talent in the front four is what is holding us back.

[flave1969]

It would seem to be YES and NO. If SPAGS is hired to be the HC dont you think he would have some input on "D" adding his style and flair to it? So there would be some change, not sure how much.


So if AS gets the Rams job as being reported and if GW gets a new DC job soon, will there be a stickied thread that follows their side of the ball success?

esmith1790. Very sorry for your loss. Extremely sad to lose someone so young

[SpicyMcHaggis]

As long as he starts DEMANDING for a defensive lineman in the first round and gets rid of Philip Daniels, then he's all right with me.

[WinnpegSkinsFan]

As long as he starts DEMANDING for a defensive lineman in the first round and gets rid of Philip Daniels, then he's all right with me.

I sure hope so. However I read a quote on another board that Blanche (while DC of the Bears) said that QB sacks were overrated and preferrred that his Dlineman primarily stop the run. I have no link or reference but I hope that isn't his attitude today. We need to bolster both lines this off-season, IMO.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

I sure hope so. However I read a quote on another board that Blanche (while DC of the Bears) said that QB sacks were overrated and preferrred that his Dlineman primarily stop the run. I have no link or reference but I hope that isn't his attitude today. We need to bolster both lines this off-season, IMO.

Well, considering that the two teams that will play in the Super Bowl were first and second in the league in sacks and that the top 5 or 6 teams in sacks all made the playoffs, yeah, I'd say they are WAY overrated. :rolleyes:

[tbfoster1]

Well, considering that the two teams that will play in the Super Bowl were first and second in the league in sacks and that the top 5 or 6 teams in sacks all made the playoffs, yeah, I'd say they are WAY overrated. :rolleyes:

yeah really, I honestly think that if you replaced the Giants D line with the Skins D-Line, the Giants don't make the Superbowl

[RoanokeSkin]

I dont reallly know how I feel about this move. His scheme is going to be identical to Williams for the most part, and I was really hoping for somebody out of that Jim Johnson style, super aggressive defense. A defense capable of forcing a ton of turnovers.

I still am hoping that this move means we are waiting for Spagnolo, and that Blanche will be assisting the defense with learning the new scheme.

[smoak]

Snyder and Vinny make a smart move. Good hire!!!


We'll see. By all accounts Carter was brought in by GW so I could see us replacing him with another crusty old Phillip Daniels clone.

[jtovb2005]

I dont reallly know how I feel about this move. His scheme is going to be identical to Williams for the most part, and I was really hoping for somebody out of that Jim Johnson style, super aggressive defense. A defense capable of forcing a ton of turnovers.

I still am hoping that this move means we are waiting for Spagnolo, and that Blanche will be assisting the defense with learning the new scheme.

With a real live consistent pass rush threat this scheme might be pretty nice? We have been teased with a couple of guys but have had no young guy that just goes out and game after game makes everyone notice him in this department. Changing around the other guys probably won't make a large change in the performance of the defense. Not that it has been horrible for the most part, but there have been many games we could have won or kept from being decided in the last couple of minutes by one of those types taking the game in his hand. I don't see how these coaches can't think that really makes an impact?

[VegasSkinsFan]

With a real live consistent pass rush threat this scheme might be pretty nice? We have been teased with a couple of guys but have had no young guy that just goes out and game after game makes everyone notice him in this department. Changing around the other guys probably won't make a large change in the performance of the defense. Not that it has been horrible for the most part, but there have been many games we could have won or kept from being decided in the last couple of minutes by one of those types taking the game in his hand. I don't see how these coaches can't think that really makes an impact?

Having a monster dt who can just collapse a pocket would help those outside guys also. GO SKINS !!!!!

[bergiemoore]

It's really hard for me to get excited by the promotion of the guy who was responsible for the worst defensive unit on the field. As I recall, the only reason the Skins picked up Daniels to begin with is that he was with the Bears while Blache was there. The fact that he's still a starter, despite having been clinically dead for 2 years, does little to inspire confidence.

[skin4ever]

I will believe that Blache is our actual DC when a new head coach is hired. I bet this is just a stop gap to appease all of us who are criticizing this FO. If fassel is the guy then why wait, if fassel isnt the guy then why woulld anyone take the HC job when he cant put together his own coaches. Probably the skins are waiting till after the SB to interview Spagnolo for the DC job, not HC. Zorn, as was stated on ESPN was hired with approval of Fassel, and a def. hc probably wouldnt object to an OC being hired by FO as a DC. Just a feeling. LEt the circus, known as the Redskins HC search continue.

[Syllable]

if he tightens up the 15 yard cushions, does not play safeties 45 yards deep, and plays more man to man, then I will be happy with the amount of blitzing we do

We would also be a top 5 defense if we tighten up the cushions and play our safeties on 24/7 punt return watch.

[skinsfan36]

ok im going to make a prediction-i think we sign de antwan odom in free agency to replace daniels(he is a stronger,younger,better version of daniels)

[ihatedallas]

Satisfies the continuity people right? Keeps our top 5 defense in the same ballpark..with some emphasis on the Dline now.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Satisfies the continuity people right? Keeps our top 5 defense in the same ballpark..with some emphasis on the Dline now.

We have a top 5 defense?

[ihatedallas]

We have a top 5 defense?

sorry...top 10...:)

[SpicyMcHaggis]

sorry...top 10...:)

;)

[smoak]

I will believe that Blache is our actual DC when a new head coach is hired. I bet this is just a stop gap to appease all of us who are criticizing this FO. If fassel is the guy then why wait, if fassel isnt the guy then why woulld anyone take the HC job when he cant put together his own coaches. Probably the skins are waiting till after the SB to interview Spagnolo for the DC job, not HC. Zorn, as was stated on ESPN was hired with approval of Fassel, and a def. hc probably wouldnt object to an OC being hired by FO as a DC. Just a feeling. LEt the circus, known as the Redskins HC search continue.

I agree here. At the end of the day, it is telling that Blache was not given more money or an extension.

[smoak]

sorry...top 10...:)

I'd say that we way have a top 5 defense with schizophrenic tendencies to give up big plays.

[Patrick]

I'd say that we way have a top 5 defense with schizophrenic tendencies to give up big plays.

At this point - I say we have nothing.

[RedHokieSkin]

According to Larry Michaels, Blache says "corners are king". (The end of Blache Interview Pt.1 on redskins.com)

So much for drafting on the DL....

[Syllable]

According to Larry Michaels, Blache says "corners are king". (The end of Blache Interview Pt.1 on redskins.com)

So much for drafting on the DL....

What happens when you coach with GW for a couple years.

[CNYSkinFan]

According to Larry Michaels, Blache says "corners are king". (The end of Blache Interview Pt.1 on redskins.com)

So much for drafting on the DL....
or so much for the demise of Sean Springs

[Keino]

EXACTLY MY POINT!!!!! Blache brought PD here and is probably the main reason the man is on the team. Why are we excited about this again???? Help me see the burgundy and gold light.


Did you see his lines in Chicago?

[CNYSkinFan]

EXACTLY MY POINT!!!!! Blache brought PD here and is probably the main reason the man is on the team. Why are we excited about this again???? Help me see the burgundy and gold light.
However Blach3e was never given a suitable preplacement for Daniels on the roster either. Now if this time next year we have to sit and watch the corpse that is Daniels start again well i will be with you, but who exactly could we have put in over Daniels last year with the roster assembled?

[SpicyMcHaggis]

However Blach3e was never given a suitable preplacement for Daniels on the roster either. Now if this time next year we have to sit and watch the corpse that is Daniels start again well i will be with you, but who exactly could we have put in over Daniels last year with the roster assembled?
Anybody.

[Syllable]

However Blach3e was never given a suitable preplacement for Daniels on the roster either. Now if this time next year we have to sit and watch the corpse that is Daniels start again well i will be with you, but who exactly could we have put in over Daniels last year with the roster assembled?
http://www.footballamerica.com/football/images/products/10145.JPG
probably a good 95% better than Daniels + he doesn't get tired on 3rd downs and in the 4th quarter.

[CNYSkinFan]

ok i asked for those lol

[RedHokieSkin]

However Blach3e was never given a suitable preplacement for Daniels on the roster either. Now if this time next year we have to sit and watch the corpse that is Daniels start again well i will be with you, but who exactly could we have put in over Daniels last year with the roster assembled?

I say give Todd Collins a shot...

[Hrabanmaur]

I say give Todd Collins a shot...

Definitely Rock Cartwright -- that kid has "pass rusher" written all over him.