lloyd on 980 this morning

[skin4ever]

He was on talking about his status and what was promised him when he came to us. He said skins primised him they were going to throw the ball all over the field and score lots of TDs. He said he doesnt know why he didnt play more, but he felt the coaches looked at his drops and held it against him.(or something like that) He also kindof complained about COoley getting a lot of catches and how the passing O surrounded Cooley and Moss.

He did add he plans to be here next year and blah, blah, blah.

Wasted talent and cash.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

He was on talking about his status and what was promised him when he came to us. He said skins primised him they were going to throw the ball all over the field and score lots of TDs. He said he doesnt know why he didnt play more, but he felt the coaches looked at his drops and held it against him.(or something like that) He also kindof complained about COoley getting a lot of catches and how the passing O surrounded Cooley and Moss.

He did add he plans to be here next year and blah, blah, blah.

Wasted talent and cash.

I married a girl who said she would look 24 forever. I stopped trying in my marriage after her first wrinkle. Then I faked an injury to get out of our relationship.:)

[smoak]

Honestly I despise Lloyd more than anyone to wear the burgundy and gold. I hope they cut him without even tellign him and just have security open fire when he shows up at the gates.

[CNYSkinFan]

June 1 can't come fast enough

[Biggie]

In other news, no one cares.

[smoak]

June 1 can't come fast enough

Scary thought of the day.

The new coach thinks he can get something out of Lloyd. Thankfully I don't think Mooch was there when the Niners drafted him.

[Redskin4Life]

Scary thought of the day.

The new coach thinks he can get something out of Lloyd. Thankfully I don't think Mooch was there when the Niners drafted him.
Yep, he was drafted in '03 and Mooch was gone after the '02 season.

[Patrick]

Scary thought of the day.

The new coach thinks he can get something out of Lloyd. Thankfully I don't think Mooch was there when the Niners drafted him.

Another scary thought .............. maybe they might. Randy Moss is a great example. I just don't want the new coaching staff to be confused with his potential (or lack of) and possible affecting any draft considerations......... even UDFA.

[JsMaViSd]

Another scary thought .............. maybe they might. Randy Moss is a great example. I just don't want the new coaching staff to be confused with his potential (or lack of) and possible affecting any draft considerations......... even UDFA.

my thoughts exactly

he definately can play. and whether he has a good attitude or not, i still dont think him, or any of our receivers, were used correctly while Campbell was at the helm this year.

[Keino]

June 1 can't come fast enough

While most of me feels this way, I have to admit, there is a part of me that wants to give Lloyd another chance.

I think I must have bumped my head this morning.

[dj_stouty]

While most of me feels this way, I have to admit, there is a part of me that wants to give Lloyd another chance.

I think I must have bumped my head this morning.

Take some asprine, get some sleep and rejoin this conversation in the morning. :)

[smoak]

Take some asprine, get some sleep and rejoin this conversation in the morning. :)

I was going to offer the same advice except that I'd suggest washing the asprine down with a mason jar of Jack.

[CNYSkinFan]

someone get Keino to the hospital quick

[dj_stouty]

someone get Keino to the hospital quick

The hospital is full, but we can bump Wilbon and give his bed to Keino.

[Red Bear]

June 1 can't come fast enough

you must be forgetting that we dont have to wait for june 1st to designate it a june 1st cut, we just have to wait for june 1st for the cap side of it to take effect. the new rule put in place a year or two ago allows us to designate two june 1st cuts before june 1st...

[bergiemoore]

I have a question about the cutting Lloyd.

As things stand, Lloyd is going to count $4.25 mil against the cap this year if he stays past June 1st, in large part due to a roster bonus of $1.8 mil that is owed to him on June 1st. If the Redskins cut him prior to June 1st, he will count $7.15(ish) mil against the 2008 cap.

Can the Redskins designate Lloyd as a June 1st cut prior to June 1, and still avoid paying him the roster bonus, or is there a clause in the CBA that would force the Redskins to pay him the roster bonus if he is designated as a June 1st cut?

[RedskinRyan]

Scary thought of the day.

The new coach thinks he can get something out of Lloyd. Thankfully I don't think Mooch was there when the Niners drafted him.

That's something I've been scared to think about too. Luckily, I bang near-by stones into my head to shake the thought.

[redwolf1218]

http://www.skinsfans.com/pcinoz/Cut_Trade_Savings.htm

cap savings/cost for cuts before and after june 1

[chrisbcbu]

While most of me feels this way, I have to admit, there is a part of me that wants to give Lloyd another chance.

I think I must have bumped my head this morning.

I am actually leaning towards this as well. I want to give Lloyd another chance. So i am hoping he stays with us 1 more year. And if the new coaching staff cant do anything with him then its time to go separate ways.

[Redskin4Life]

I am actually leaning towards this as well. I want to give Lloyd another chance. So i am hoping he stays with us 1 more year. And if the new coaching staff cant do anything with him then its time to go separate ways.
Only way he can stay IMO is if he gives up the roster bonus and gives back some of his salary... I don't want pay him alot for nothing.

[NCskinsfanatic]

I'm familiar with 980... but who's this lloyd character that you all speak of?

[CNYSkinFan]

I am actually leaning towards this as well. I want to give Lloyd another chance. So i am hoping he stays with us 1 more year. And if the new coaching staff cant do anything with him then its time to go separate ways.
now we need a room for two at the mental hospital :)

don't worry I will be joiningn you guys come draft day

[Red Bear]

if we could atleast get the production out of lloyd that he had in SF i wouldnt be opposed to keeping him. lets say somewhere around 40+ catches 700-800 yards and 4-5 TDs

[SpicyMcHaggis]

I hope we cut Lloyd.

With a chainsaw.

[Skins7ny]

Scary thought of the day.
The new coach thinks he can get something out of Lloyd. Thankfully I don't think Mooch was there when the Niners drafted him.
Here is another scary thought. Jim Zorn is a huge fan of Mark Brunell, says that he reminds him of himself as a player.
While most of me feels this way, I have to admit, there is a part of me that wants to give Lloyd another chance.

It must be your ass. :smash: Please, cut the man now before more smart, level-headed people get their brains invaded by the Lloydpod!

[CNYSkinFan]

Here is another scary thought. Jim Zorn is a huge fan of Mark Brunell, says that he reminds him of himself as a player.


It must be your ass. :smash: Please, cut the man now before more smart, level-headed people get their brains invaded by the Lloydpod!
I would more then welcome Brunell back as a vet backup at the minimum...easily.

[smoak]

Brunell didn't play well in '04 and faded in '05. I can live with a player giving his all and failing. Where I get angry is when a player robs money from the Skins by not giving any effort.

[mossme89]

He was on talking about his status and what was promised him when he came to us. He said skins primised him they were going to throw the ball all over the field and score lots of TDs. He said he doesnt know why he didnt play more, but he felt the coaches looked at his drops and held it against him.(or something like that) He also kindof complained about COoley getting a lot of catches and how the passing O surrounded Cooley and Moss.

He did add he plans to be here next year and blah, blah, blah.

Wasted talent and cash.

yeah right

[mossme89]

i think lloyd should be released

[mossme89]

i hate him

[AGibbsGirl]

While I should say that SkinsfaninNJ should get the award for the stupidist thing said in this thread (or at least the rolling pin :D)

I will instead give it to Lloyd for this statement, "he doesnt know why he didnt play more, but he felt the coaches looked at his drops and held it against him"

Er...HELLO...quit dropping the ball you idiot and give them something else to look at...maybe you'll play more?

[Battle Cat]

Yeah I think it is time to let Lloyd go on his way regardless. I just think he has burned to many bridges to stay. It was a bad idea to bring him here no need in making it worse by keeping him any longer than we have too. Bank of America proved throwing more good money at a bad money situation doesn't really help.

[LuvSkins17]

I heard him on 980 this morning and I wanted to call in or text them or something because Lloyd sounded crazy on some of his terms.

We are getting back most of the coaching staff. They don't have much good to say about Lloyd. He flat out "LOST" his position if you ask me. His statements about Colley and Moss were somewhat skewed. He appeared arrogant when asked would he talk to the new coaching staff and let them know that he is ready and willing to play and this is a new OC and he wants to start "a new". This fool says nah I'll let my play stand for itself.... I don't want to beg for a position, I know what I can do.

I would love for him to be the comback player of the year. He kills us with the cap if we cut him, but I would love for us to see some different things that can get him open. I mean,.... we do have some weapons. If we can get on the same page out the door, we can be a decent team, even with the changes are being made.

I don't think he is going to do much with the rap thing.... True Hip Hop heads would not give him a chance. He would do better busting his butt and gettin' his football on and sellin' them CD's at the RedSkin Store or something. The hip hop community won't have him.

[Bengal224ord]

I was going to offer the same advice except that I'd suggest washing the asprine down with a mason jar of Jack.

Don't tell him that, he may try to convince us all that he should be in the Hall of Fame and that even with his meager numbers he is still the best receiver on the Redskins Team (lol). I would say, make an appointment with the doctor, and explain that you are having illusions.:smash:

Bengal224ord:Peace:

[shally]

While I should say that SkinsfaninNJ should get the award for the stupidist thing said in this thread (or at least the rolling pin :D)

I will instead give it to Lloyd for this statement, "he doesnt know why he didnt play more, but he felt the coaches looked at his drops and held it against him"

Er...HELLO...quit dropping the ball you idiot and give them something else to look at...maybe you'll play more?

he hasnt learned a thing through this all

cut his azz at the best time ca -wise

[colkurtz]

lloyd = (talent + massive head case) x no production

How many catches this season? How much $money per yard?

Another Taylor Jacobs, McCants, Micheal Westbrooke, 50/50 - I may have to start drinking earlier if I keep posting on this thread.

[HAWGZHEAD]

he felt the coaches looked at his drops and held it against him. You think?!? :thinker: Now why would dropping passes affect a WR's playing time in the NFL?

i hate him
:lol1:

[skinsfan36]

i cnat believe they wasted time interviewing lloyd why not just interview the team waterboy hes seen on the field more. and id welcome brunell abck as a back up hes played in wco in gb(well practiced it)

[RedskinRyan]

While most of me feels this way, I have to admit, there is a part of me that wants to give Lloyd another chance.

I think I must have bumped my head this morning.

That, or smoked something really, REALLY good

[joethefan]

That call will be a snyder call, the redskin brass will not allow him to steal any more money from them....maybe danny should make him wash the unis and clean the lockeroom for 6.75 per hour...then he'll learn to appreciate being in the position he's in..

hey Keino I work at a hopsital..I can have you triaged and placed in a bed in 2 min...LOL


in the Psych ward....LOL j/k

[smoak]

lloyd = (talent + massive head case) x no production

How many catches this season? How much $money per yard?

Another Taylor Jacobs, McCants, Micheal Westbrooke, 50/50 - I may have to start drinking earlier if I keep posting on this thread.

I get your point, but I wish Lloyd had half the production of those guys. Lloyd honestly is the worst player to wear the burgundy and gold. Seriously. A wore name doesn't come to mind... Those guys were all statistically much, much better.

[Hr fan]

He was on talking about his status and what was promised him when he came to us. He said skins primised him they were going to throw the ball all over the field and score lots of TDs. He said he doesnt know why he didnt play more, but he felt the coaches looked at his drops and held it against him.(or something like that) He also kindof complained about COoley getting a lot of catches and how the passing O surrounded Cooley and Moss.

He did add he plans to be here next year and blah, blah, blah.

Wasted talent and cash.

Whine. Everybody but him. A cancer, and a danny/vinnie catastrophe when he was signed long term in a horribly unnecessary move.

[Hrabanmaur]

Whine. Everybody but him. A cancer, and a danny/vinnie catastrophe when he was signed long term in a horribly unnecessary move.

Didn't he come in as a Restricted Free Agent? If so, he had at least one year left on his remaining contract that first year here. Why, oh why, did we not wait to offer him his massive contract until the end of that season? Even if he had a stellar year, he wouldn't have cost us much more than he is now. Poor planning on Cerrato's part.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Didn't he come in as a Restricted Free Agent? If so, he had at least one year left on his remaining contract that first year here. Why, oh why, did we not wait to offer him his massive contract until the end of that season? Even if he had a stellar year, he wouldn't have cost us much more than he is now. Poor planning on Cerrato's part.

Yeah. Shocking.

[Skins7ny]

Didn't he come in as a Restricted Free Agent? If so, he had at least one year left on his remaining contract that first year here. Why, oh why, did we not wait to offer him his massive contract until the end of that season? Even if he had a stellar year, he wouldn't have cost us much more than he is now. Poor planning on Cerrato's part.

Was Vinny in the building back then? Maybe it was the Ghost of Vinny. Vinny "Clean Slate" Cerrato would never have done anything so stupid.

While I should say that SkinsfaninNJ should get the award for the stupidist thing said in this thread (or at least the rolling pin :D)

I will instead give it to Lloyd for this statement, "he doesnt know why he didnt play more, but he felt the coaches looked at his drops and held it against him"

"I don't know why the hospital suspended my operating priviliges, I feel that they looked at all my botched surgeries and held it against me".

"I don't know why no one goes to my restaurant any more, I feel they looked at all the health code violations and held it against me".

"I don't know why they won't let me teach 6th grade anymore, I feel they looked at all the kids in my class who don't know how to read and held it against me".

"I don't know why they won't let me drive a school bus any more, I feel they looked at my 12 convictions for reckless driving and held it against me".

What a fool this guy is. Cut him and be done with him.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Was Vinny in the building back then? Maybe it was the Ghost of Vinny. Vinny "Clean Slate" Cerrato would never have done anything so stupid.

LMAO!


(actually, wait, why am I laughing..that's not funny at all..that's TRUE!! Oh my God, NOOO!!!)

[silverspring]

Unfortunately it might not be as simple as cutting him. Everything is about money and we are going to take quite a hit by just cutting him. If it was just him i would say fine but there are quite a few players we are considering cutting although lloyd is at the top of the list for jackass points.

I would assume if mooch is HC lloyd will definitely be cut because i am sure his old san fran connections have given him the full negative scoop on lloyd.

[BtwnDaTackles]

Honestly I despise Lloyd more than anyone to wear the burgundy and gold. I hope they cut him without even tellign him and just have security open fire when he shows up at the gates.

LMAO!!!!

[dj_stouty]

Unfortunately it might not be as simple as cutting him. Everything is about money and we are going to take quite a hit by just cutting him. If it was just him i would say fine but there are quite a few players we are considering cutting although lloyd is at the top of the list for jackass points.


Taking on a dead cap hit has never, I repeat, never stopped Danny from cutting someone. Lloyd is the biggest mistake the Redskins have made since Danny took over the team. No matter the penalty, he is history.

[Skins7ny]

We have been waiting ever since we traded Archuleta to take the Lloyd cap hit. I will be curious to see who takes a chance on him next. Maybe the Patriots if they lose Moss, or maybe Shanahan in Denver. He likes turds.

[dj_stouty]

We have been waiting ever since we traded Archuleta to take the Lloyd cap hit. I will be curious to see who takes a chance on him next. Maybe the Patriots if they lose Moss, or maybe Shanahan in Denver. He likes turds.

Oakland is the land of talented receivers who never proved their billing; Jerry Porter, Mike Williams and Ronald Curry all come to mind very quickly. I think Brandon would fit in nice with that group.

[ChiefPowhatan17]

Unfortunately he will be back at camp. But, I would like to say BYE BYE to him, but if it is for a cap hit, he might get another go around.

[CarMike]

Another scary thought .............. maybe they might. Randy Moss is a great example. I just don't want the new coaching staff to be confused with his potential (or lack of) and possible affecting any draft considerations......... even UDFA.

Patrick, please tell me you're not comparing Lloyd to Moss? At least RM put up good numbers before. And the Redskins aren't exactly the Patriots either.

[The truth]

After June 1st, Loyd will be a memory. Good riddance.

[Patrick]

Patrick, please tell me you're not comparing Lloyd to Moss? At least RM put up good numbers before. And the Redskins aren't exactly the Patriots either.

No Mike I'm not....
But RM didn't put up anything in Oakland either. He was a BUST for the $$ he was being paid.
Neither here or there ..... the point being that Zorn might understand BL and feel he knows how to best use him.... Don't be surprised.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

No Mike I'm not....
But RM didn't put up anything in Oakland either. He was a BUST for the $$ he was being paid.
Neither here or there ..... the point being that Zorn might understand BL and feel he knows how to best use him.... Don't be surprised.
Randy Moss sucked in Oakland, but he still put up 1500+ yards and 11 TDs in 2 years. That's light years more than what Lloyd has ever done in his life.
Actually (and this is what should really worry us), those are almost exactly the numbers that Santana Moss put up in these last two seasons, and are much better than what Randle El has done so far with us.

[smoak]

Oakland is the land of talented receivers who never proved their billing; Jerry Porter, Mike Williams and Ronald Curry all come to mind very quickly. I think Brandon would fit in nice with that group.

Uhhh... Ronald Curry was a QB from UNC converted to WR in the NFL so he has actually done well for himself (don't remember when he was drafted).

But I get your point and I'm with you. The difference between BL and RM is that if RM half asses it he still has enough talent to be "good". Lloyd's attitude is terrible and he'll never be a starting WR in the NFL again. EVER.

Can't we let this thread die??? Lloyd makes baby Jesus cry.

BTW - Best sig ever!!

[csquared]

No Mike I'm not....
But RM didn't put up anything in Oakland either. He was a BUST for the $$ he was being paid.
Neither here or there ..... the point being that Zorn might understand BL and feel he knows how to best use him.... Don't be surprised.

Moss also had some crazy good years in Minny. So the comparison stops with them both having dreads. And thats about it.

[csquared]

Oakland is the land of talented receivers who never proved their billing; Jerry Porter, Mike Williams and Ronald Curry all come to mind very quickly. I think Brandon would fit in nice with that group.

Mike Williams is a Titan for now.