Offense Comparison: Saunder's and Zorn's West Coast (posted for mossme89)

[smoak]

"Hey guys, being a great supporter of Jason Campbell wanted to get your opinion on what effect saunder's system will have on campbell. Since saunder's system is one of the most complex in the nfl, would it have helped Campbell to develop in an NFL offense and be, in a way, helping him to develop in the west coast?

Also, what can we expect from this redskins offensive attack next year?

I look forward to reading your replies.

Kyle"



Interesting topic although I won't know what to make of Zorn until we hire a head coach... But

[mossme89]

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[csquared]

thanks again somak

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[mossme89]

Im sooooooo calling you Somak now Smoak. LOL

My bad:
SMOAK

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[AGibbsGirl]

My bad:
SMOAK

it is hard when i am typing fast


That's ok my friend we have one poster here (no names...PSF) who we can never understand anything he types when he's excited about something

[Farmer Ted]

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[mossme89]

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[openallnight]

"Hey guys, being a great supporter of Jason Campbell wanted to get your opinion on what effect saunder's system will have on campbell. Since saunder's system is one of the most complex in the nfl, would it have helped Campbell to develop in an NFL offense and be, in a way, helping him to develop in the west coast?

Also, what can we expect from this redskins offensive attack next year?

I look forward to reading your replies.

I think if you look at the AS system it incorporates a bunch of WC things. Unfortunately, it's those aspects of the offense that JC really seemed to struggle with. A WC QB has to make superquick reads, get the ball out on time to a spot and be accurate. AS/Bill Lazor worked alot with JC to shorten up his delivery and expedite his release. He definitely showed progress in this area but, is still not where you want your WC QB to be. Unfortunately, his accuracy on the short to medium passes has never been consistent.

JC was the prototypical QB for the Joe Gibbs offense, ala Doug Williams and Mark Rypien. Unfortunately, he does not project well in the WCO.

This is just my opinion but, it's gonna take A LOT of work for JC to succeed in the WCO. I have serious reservations that he ever will.

[bergiemoore]

There is a post by Jason La Canfora that went into some detail on the differences in the system (link (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/01/a_new_era.html)). The main thing is the terminology. The Saunders' and Gibbs' system relies on numbers to describe the routes that recievers run. The WCO, under Walsh adherents, is word based.

Saunders' system pulled from WCO along with just about every other offensive system out there, so there's going to be some similarities. Saunders' system relied on very accurate route running from the receivers, and demanded that the QB throw to a spot on the field and trust the receiver to get there. The same thing is required in the WCO.

I think that the power running style that Seattle runs will play better here then, say, the complete abandonment of the running game that the Eagles ran while Reid was play-calling. This will help JC take the time to adjust to the new system.

Personally, I think this is the worst thing that Snyderrato could do to Campbell's development. Snyderrato has done a great job hiring guys that were integral in developing some of the best QBs in the league, but forcing Campbell to learn a new system in the process may very well set back any progress he has already made.

[AGibbsGirl]

I think that the exposure that Jason had with Saunders and his imfamous 750 page playbook was limited. I am excited about a real QB coach coming in as the OC because he should expand Jason's roll...unless we get a HC that holds him back. I think if Jason stays healthy he will see more responsiblity next season.

[openallnight]

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[mossme89]

Now back to your question. I think that the exposure that Jason had with Saunders and his imfamous 750 page playbook was limited. I am excited about a real QB coach coming in as the OC because he should expand Jason's roll...unless we get a HC that holds him back. I think if Jason stays healthy he will see more responsiblity next season.

I think this west coast run and shoot offense will:
A: Increase Campbell's completion % and QB rating
B: Campbell will pass more (like it was the weeks before he got injured)
and C: Betts will see more playing time because he is more of pass catching back then portis

[AGibbsGirl]

I think this west coast run and shoot offense will:
A: Increase Campbell's completion % and QB rating
B: Campbell will pass more (like it was the weeks before he got injured)
and C: Betts will see more playing time because he is more of pass catching back then portis

Interesting, I am a fan of Betts and think that he should be used more, I like the idea of him playing a receiver roll. Between him and Cooley we would have some different options in this type of Offense.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

In yesterday's blog, JLC indicated that he is going to post about the differences of the two systems. Here is his quote:

"PPS - I'll do a blog later this week breaking down the differences in the two systems and have already talked to a lot of players and coaches about it."

However, I'm not sure his blog is going to do it justice because there are so many tweaks to the WCO now. The WCO seems to be able to adapt to the players' strengths better than other offenses. For example, the Eagles were a throw first team until it became painfully obvious that Westbrook was their best player, so now their run/pass ratio is much closer to league average. Same can be said for the Packers when Grant established himself.

The biggest problems I see are going to be terminology and the timing routes, which was not JC's strong suit. But there are opportunities for the QB to let a play develope and make things happen, and JC is already very good at that aspect of the game.

The bottom line is we should all become big JC fans right now. His success is the quickest way to consistent success for our franchise.

[bergiemoore]

I think this west coast run and shoot offense will:
A: Increase Campbell's completion % and QB rating
B: Campbell will pass more (like it was the weeks before he got injured)
and C: Betts will see more playing time because he is more of pass catching back then portis

I disagree about Betts/Portis. I don't think Betts is going to take any time away from Portis especially after Portis proved he is able to catch, catching 47 balls for 389 yards in 2007. Portis is also a dominate pass-blocker, an area where Betts is just awful.

[bergiemoore]

In yesterday's blog, JLC indicated that he is going to post about the differences of the two systems. Here is his quote:

"PPS - I'll do a blog later this week breaking down the differences in the two systems and have already talked to a lot of players and coaches about it."

However, I'm not sure his blog is going to do it justice because there are so many tweaks to the WCO now. The WCO seems to be able to adapt to the players' strengths better than other offenses. For example, the Eagles were a throw first team until it became painfully obvious that Westbrook was their best player, so now their run/pass ratio is much closer to league average. Same can be said for the Packers when Grant established himself.

The biggest problems I see are going to be terminology and the timing routes, which was not JC's strong suit. But there are opportunities for the QB to let a play develope and make things happen, and JC is already very good at that aspect of the game.

The bottom line is we should all become big JC fans right now. His success is the quickest way to consistent success for our franchise.

The Eagles didn't start running the ball until Andy Reid gave up play-calling. It's been painfully obvious to everyone that Westbrook is the best player on that team for years.

There are so many variations on the WCO that it's impossible to say what is going to be run here. Hopefully, the new coach takes into account the personnel available and makes decisions based on that.

[greatest2]

I disagree about Betts/Portis. I don't think Betts is going to take any time away from Portis especially after Portis proved he is able to catch, catching 47 balls for 389 yards in 2007. Portis is also a dominate pass-blocker, an area where Betts is just awful.

agree, no reason they can't use both at the same time tho. 4 wide sets can have betts as 4 maybe, or in different sets with quick passes have him in for mike.

I agree portis can catch, he proved it this year, and definitly is more dangerous then betts with the ball, but with this system i expect to see alittle more of both in there at the same time

[bergiemoore]

agree, no reason they can't use both at the same time tho. 4 wide sets can have betts as 4 maybe, or in different sets with quick passes have him in for mike.

I agree portis can catch, he proved it this year, and definitly is more dangerous then betts with the ball, but with this system i expect to see alittle more of both in there at the same time

I was begging to see that with Saunders' system, but the turd never accommodated me.

[smoak]

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Along as you don't call me "Some Akh". :D

My thought is that to make this work, we have to adopt a vertical attack flavor of the WCO similar to the Eagles. The glaring exception is that I don't believe in teams that don't run the football (and I think we are better suited to do just that in the short run). We have to get Portis the ball often and maybe we should consider acquiring another back that can help out as a receiver? I remember that while the Eagles were grooming McNabb they used a lot of screen passes and dump offs to get the QB into the rhythm. The key is that we need to get Campbell clicking in a hurry b/c if he isn't going to compete a very high % of passes, then this won't work (way to state the obvious, right). If Moss is still on the team, I expect the new offense will move him around a lot before the snap in an attempt to keep defenders off him and to get him the ball quickly in space. Moss of '07 would be a terrible WR in any system, but if we can get him back to his '05 production, Moss can be both a deep threat and a POSSESSION WR. Sadly his '05 season was amazing as his '07 was HORRENDOUS. I'm worried he is mentally lost and might even be cut.

But the $10MM question is WWZD? And that I don't know. I need to scan the net for Zorn quotes to see if that would give us any insight as to his philosophy. I also don't remember him as a player??

Saunders' offense works when you have 3 hours in the pocket. IMO it wasn't very good for Campbell b/c the line was banged up and it emphasized decision making from a young QB.

[smoak]

I think if you look at the AS system it incorporates a bunch of WC things. Unfortunately, it's those aspects of the offense that JC really seemed to struggle with. A WC QB has to make superquick reads, get the ball out on time to a spot and be accurate. AS/Bill Lazor worked alot with JC to shorten up his delivery and expedite his release. He definitely showed progress in this area but, is still not where you want your WC QB to be. Unfortunately, his accuracy on the short to medium passes has never been consistent.

JC was the prototypical QB for the Joe Gibbs offense, ala Doug Williams and Mark Rypien. Unfortunately, he does not project well in the WCO.

This is just my opinion but, it's gonna take A LOT of work for JC to succeed in the WCO. I have serious reservations that he ever will.


I was with you there at first amigo, but one thing I would like to point out is that others here mentioned that JC was in a WCO his senior year at Auburn. I don't follow college so maybe someone more informed that I can elaborate, but Campbell completed ~ 70% of his passes that year. Also, I actually like his accuracy, but we need to work on his consistency (as you said), and get WRs who can catch the ball. I actually think JC is more "streaky" than inaccurate, and literally I can't remember a year where we had so many drops (especially on third down). I've seen JC go from cold to hitting everything in sight with very nice touch on the deep ball so I am excited to see if he can get this system down in time to be competitive this season. If he isn't, then I wonder if the team may not look to the next QB in line a little too soon?

Most importantly, I hope Zorn's flavor of the WCO doesn't abandon the deep ball. I especially like the way Reid is able to get big plays out of the passing game, and I think Cooley could become an even more dangerous weapon in this offense. He spent too much time blocking last year.

[VegasSkinsFan]

I dont think Zorn will abandon the deep ball. From memory, all I remember were bombs from zorn to largent. I am excited for change even if it means taking a small step backward in order to go forward. GO SKINS !!!!!

[mossme89]

I disagree about Betts/Portis. I don't think Betts is going to take any time away from Portis especially after Portis proved he is able to catch, catching 47 balls for 389 yards in 2007. Portis is also a dominate pass-blocker, an area where Betts is just awful.

he caught 47 balls!? Wow, i thought he caught, like 20

[Meatsnack]

The Walsh WCO adapted to its players. That, not any especial play design, is what made Walsh and his offense succesful.

Historically, Saunders and Walsh both learned offense from Sid Gilman, who won 5 AFL Championships with the Chargers back when. Don Coryell was Gilman's OC in college and the pros. Coryell succeeded Gilman, and had a guy named Joe Gibbs as his OC. When Joe Gibbs came to Washington, he was succeeded by a guy named Saunders.

Walsh learned offense first from Al Davis (Davis had been an assistant under Gilman for three years), then from Paul Brown. When Walsh's best player went down to a career ending injury (cannon-armed Greg Cook who led the league in yards per completion), his replacement (noodle armed but mobile and accurate Virgil Carter) 1) needed the field stretched horizontally instead of vertically and 2) the two best players on offense were both running backs that Walsh wanted on the field simultaneously. Adapting the system to the players, hmmm. There may be something to this concept. Maybe this is why Walsh is a legend and Saunders is a coordinator.

Anyhoo, while both Saunders and Walsh teach/taught timing offenses, Walsh's version is very flexible if it gives up something in explosiveness to the best Coryell offenses. For example, the initial iteration of the WCO in Cincinati used short passes, usually from a roll-out, to spread out defenders and open running lanes for his two backs - both of whom were also used as receivers. When he went to Frisco, he discovered that larger wideouts who could break tackles could turn those 4-10 yards throws into 20+ yards gains and adapted again. The new WCO with Freddie Solomon and Dwight Clark at WR, TE Russ Francis, Olympic sprinter Renaldo Nehemiah to stretch the field, WR/RB Carl Munroe, and RB/TE Earl Cooper was a new thing under the sun. Anyone could catch the ball at any time and it kept defenses honest. This remained so until Buddy Ryan perfected the 46 defense to combat the WCO.

By the time TO was paired with Rice in 'frisco, the WCO was a vertical attack but still predicated on timing and unpredictable paths for the ball top get out of the QB's hands.

The WCO disciples who learned from Walsh: Mike Holmgren (who ran a similar offense at BYU prior), Jim Fassel, Paul Hackett, Sam Wyche (yes, that Sam Wyche), George Seifert, and Dennis Green. This crew has had varied success but several have had disciples of their own who have taken the offense in different directions. Holmgren taught Mike Sherman, Steve Mariucci (Marty Mornhinweg), Andy Reid (Brad Childress), and Ray Rhodes. Fassel taught John Fox. Hackett coached Gruden (Bill Callahan) and Mike McCarthy. Sam Wyche coached Bruce Coslet and Mike Mularky. George Seifert, despite being a dead fish himself, coached Jeff Fischer and Mike Shanahan (Gary Kubiak). Dennis Green has the biggest impact in terms of head coaches from his lineage: Brian Billick (Jack Del Rio), Tony Dungy (Lovie Smith, Rod Marinelli, and Mike Tomlin), and Mike Tice (Scott Linehan).

It is almost impossible to generalize the WCO for this reason. Holmgren, Gruden, Fischer, and Shanahan utilize a run-heavy version. Andy Reid, Fassel, and Billick are more pass-happy. Mooch, Sherman, and Green are balanced. Most of them can flex back and forth from game to game against their own tendencies, though.

Walsh said (http://chi.scout.com/2/641292.html), "We demanded that everyone be a good receiver and that everyone have great discipline." Everything else is negotiable but like the old Gilman/Coryell offenses, it is a timing-based, pass first run second offense. In theory, if a team has great, field stretching receivers, it is a field stretching offense. We will have to see what Zorn cooks up but Holmgren is font of WCO knowledge and Zorn was a very good QB in his time.

[Edit] With Virgil Carter as well as Joe Montana, Walsh sought to create mismatches between fast receivers and slower LBs and strong safeties by flooding the short and intermediate zones with receivers. The Coryell offense sought to create blown and single coverages by flooding the interemdiate and deep zones. This is also what Walsh did in Cincinati when he had a QB capable of making those throws.

[OCSkinzFan]

That's quite a post Meatsnack, thanks for the info.

In your opinion do you think that Campbell is more suited to the Coryell style or the Walsh style?

When Zorn played for Patera resorted to a spread offense that was centered around a passing game using lots of gadget plays.

[BostonSkins]

Pure speculation but I think ARE will excel in our new system if it is based on receiver discipline, he seems to run good routes. But, I'm nervous about Campbell's ability to complete the quick slants inside as that seems to be the throw he just can not seem to make.

[mossme89]

Pure speculation but I think ARE will excel in our new system if it is based on receiver discipline, he seems to run good routes. But, I'm nervous about Campbell's ability to complete the quick slants inside as that seems to be the throw he just can not seem to make.

I agree, he reminds me of a faster version of Wes Welker

[csquared]

I agree, he reminds me of a faster version of Wes Welker

Ummmmm no. ARE is a poor mans Welker.

[BostonSkins]

Ummmmm no. ARE is a poor mans Welker.

Welker has had one awesome season and that is it and it just happens to be in the greatest offensive season by a team the NFL has ever had. I'm not saying Welker is a bad player but I can see Randle El doing the exact same thing as Welker had he been on the Pats this year.

[csquared]

Welker has had one awesome season and that is it and it just happens to be in the greatest offensive season by a team the NFL has ever had. I'm not saying Welker is a bad player but I can see Randle El doing the exact same thing as Welker had he been on the Pats this year.

He also had like 60 something catches for a terrible Miami team in 2006. And exactly how many good years has ARE had?

EDIT... Here's ARE's stats (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/stats?playerId=3590)

[BostonSkins]

He also had like 60 something catches for a terrible Miami team in 2006. And exactly how many good years has ARE had?

EDIT... Here's ARE's stats (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/stats?playerId=3590)

ARE's had about 5 good years, nothing great. Welker has had 2 good years and one amazing year. All I'm saying is that they are similar players, undersized, shifty, good speed, both returned kicks. I just don't think it's too much of a stretch to say that they are very similar and one just happened to play in the greatest offense in NFL history. The other, ARE has played on some offensively challenged teams.

[smoak]

Interesting note about Walsh's days with Paul Brown that I didn't know until Walsh died. Paul Brown was apparently a nasty SOB who literally did everything he could to hold Walsh back. Granted this is Walch's version of the story, but I've heard it mentioned several times now, most recently in the book, Blind Side.

Here is a snippet from Wiki:
He then moved to the AFL expansion Cincinnati Bengals in 1968, serving under Paul Brown for seven seasons as one of the architects of the team's offense, built around quarterback Ken Anderson and wide receiver Isaac Curtis.

When Brown retired as head coach following the 1975 season and appointed Bill "Tiger" Johnson as his successor, Walsh resigned and served as an assistant coach for Tommy Prothro with the San Diego Chargers in 1976. In a 2006 interview[4] , Walsh claimed that during his tenure with the Bengals, Brown "worked against my candidacy" to be a head coach anywhere in the league. "All the way through I had opportunities, and I never knew about them," Walsh said. "And then when I left him, he called whoever he thought was necessary to keep me out of the NFL."

Really, what is called WCO today is so broad that I challenge most people to really define it. As long as we don't come out with all short garbage, I'll be fine. In my very humble opinion, we have the QB in place to incorporate a vertical attack.... Or at least enough of one that it will keep teams honest.

[Hr fan]

JLC has put his finger on THE problem. Vinnie is running the show, and he is installing a WCO whether the new HC likes it on not. In fact the new HC, who clearly has no say on his assistants, will have even less to say about personnel. I truly wonder who would want such a job, and I don't come up with anyone with a rep. As far a JC's development goes, look for a veteran b/u who will be starting by game 2 due to knowledge of the system, probably Plummer (I only hope he doesn't cost us a 1st or 2nd). JC's future is to play out his contract and sign elsewhere or to be trade bait.

[smoak]

JLC has put his finger on THE problem. Vinnie is running the show, and he is installing a WCO whether the new HC likes it on not. In fact the new HC, who clearly has no say on his assistants, will have even less to say about personnel. I truly wonder who would want such a job, and I don't come up with anyone with a rep. As far a JC's development goes, look for a veteran b/u who will be starting by game 2 due to knowledge of the system, probably Plummer (I only hope he doesn't cost us a 1st or 2nd). JC's future is to play out his contract and sign elsewhere or to be trade bait.

God I hope not. The offense better be tailored for JC rather than trying to force a square peg in a round hole.

[redskin_rich]

Really, what is called WCO today is so broad that I challenge most people to really define it. As long as we don't come out with all short garbage, I'll be fine. In my very humble opinion, we have the QB in place to incorporate a vertical attack.... Or at least enough of one that it will keep teams honest.
We won't be seeing many multiple formations and we definitely won't be seeing the Jumbo package anymore (which will probably make a lot of people here happy). The passing game will feature a lot more quick 3 step drops and there will seldom be mass protection blocking schemes. Probably see a lot of roll-outs too. There are some things that I think will help JC but he really needs to work on his touch, accuracy and be able to make quick reads.

That's about all I can speculate on, as we really have no idea how Zorn will run this offense.

[Hr fan]

God I hope not. The offense better be tailored for JC rather than trying to force a square peg in a round hole.

Hiring assistants means the HC is a figurehead, with Vinnie/Danny pulling ALL the strings. As JLC quoted league sources, it's a decidedly non-standard Management structure, with the least knowledgeable people as the decision makers - and the them hiring the new OC/DC shows the level of detail they are determined to go. If the WCO comes in and JC doesn't thrive immediately, with a name vet on staff he will become the forgotten man, no matter what the HC or his staff think - even assuming they are asked for their opinion rather than ordered to toe the line.

[smoak]

Hiring assistants means the HC is a figurehead, with Vinnie/Danny pulling ALL the strings. As JLC quoted league sources, it's a decidedly non-standard Management structure, with the least knowledgeable people as the decision makers - and the them hiring the new OC/DC shows the level of detail they are determined to go. If the WCO comes in and JC doesn't thrive immediately, with a name vet on staff he will become the forgotten man, no matter what the HC or his staff think - even assuming they are asked for their opinion rather than ordered to toe the line.


Maybe. I definitely see your point and if you are right, we are in for possibly another 15 years with two playoff wins. Scary thought huh? I just see no hope for us if we hire a coach other than Mooch or Fassel b/c to me, it will prove you are right. I am hoping that Mooch has been helping orchestrate this in the background.

We won't be seeing many multiple formations and we definitely won't be seeing the Jumbo package anymore (which will probably make a lot of people here happy). The passing game will feature a lot more quick 3 step drops and there will seldom be mass protection blocking schemes. Probably see a lot of roll-outs too. There are some things that I think will help JC but he really needs to work on his touch, accuracy and be able to make quick reads.

That's about all I can speculate on, as we really have no idea how Zorn will run this offense.

Agree... As I am a fan of using a jumbo package a small % of the time, I will be bummed. I guess for me it is all about matchups. If I am playing a Philly, a team with a smaller DL that loves to blitz, I would pound those censored by spences until they started rotating in backup offensive linemen to help out. I'd literally tell my O-line that they would have all day to just beat the hell out of them. That might be an exaggeration, but not much...

Re: Campbell, my guess is that the reads will be a lot easier in this offense than Al's as I assume most of the heavy lifting on that front will be done pre-snap in this offense. I think JC's biggest challenge will be to get a feel for consistently how to throw. Brady is a master at knowing when to add a little mustard and when to take something off. While I would label Cambell as an accurate QB, he tends to get out of rhythm at times and it isn't uncommon to see him uncork a fastball behind a guy when the route called for him to lead the WR. But all that said, we need WRs that will catch a ball that hits their hands.

Does anyone know of a trustworthy website that reports statistics on drops? Something similar to what DJ used to do but for the entire league...

[Redskin4Life]

Honestly, I see us going back to the WCO stylized JG offense of '05. That offense fits our personnel and coaching staff to a T. We would then be promoting continuity. The retained coaching staff wouldn't have to teach new schemes. The O-Linemen wouldn't have to learn a new style of blocking. The RBs and WRs wouldn't have to learn many new plays. And most importantly, JCampbell wouldn't have to learn a new naming convention for plays.

IMO, that offense just plays up to our strengths for the offensive side of the ball (spread the field vertically, more 3-4 WR sets, pound the ball with our RBs, allow Campbell to throw to a receiver instead of a spot). Zorn should tweak the offense for our personnel and put more aspects of offenses he's more familiar with. But all in all, that would be the offense that would get the offense going quickly.

I mean it's not like Zorn's a veteran coordinator or deeply invested in the WCO. This is just his first year as OC. He's been a QB in the league before and has been exposed to different offenses so I can see him taking that offense and tweaking it to his liking (and hopefully to Campbell's strengths).

[Hrabanmaur]

Since we hired Zorn specifically for Campbell, I would imagine he will make the system as digestible to JC's development as possible. Saunders system, I believe, does work, but his success came with veteran QB's who already mastered the mechanics and strategy of the position. He never adjusted to Campbell's level. Zorn, I doubt, will make the same mistake, and I am guessing he was grilled on this aspect in his interviews. I have just enough faith in Snyder and Cerrato that they will have evaluated why Saunders offense didn't work and sought an OC that will not make the same mistake.

[MONK_in_HOF]

We won't be seeing many multiple formations and we definitely won't be seeing the Jumbo package anymore (which will probably make a lot of people here happy). The passing game will feature a lot more quick 3 step drops and there will seldom be mass protection blocking schemes. Probably see a lot of roll-outs too. There are some things that I think will help JC but he really needs to work on his touch, accuracy and be able to make quick reads.

That's about all I can speculate on, as we really have no idea how Zorn will run this offense.

Lo Alexander won't be happy about that.

[Hrabanmaur]

Lo Alexander won't be happy about that.

Actually, he might be happy about that. Now, they'll have to make up their minds as to whether he'll be offensive or defensive line.

[Redskin4Life]

Actually, he might be happy about that. Now, they'll have to make up their minds as to whether he'll be offensive or defensive line.
I'm pretty sure they've already told him... I read an interview with him after the playoffs about how he's told the coaches he wants to know what side of the ball he should devote his time, effort and training into. I'm guessing he'll be an OG for us next season.

[Meatsnack]

That's quite a post Meatsnack, thanks for the info.

In your opinion do you think that Campbell is more suited to the Coryell style or the Walsh style?

When Zorn played for Patera resorted to a spread offense that was centered around a passing game using lots of gadget plays.

Campbell can do either. He is not as athletic as, lets say, Steve Young but he can more than do the job rolling out and he is accurate as hell inside 15 yards where he can just gun the ball. Jason's weaknesses are than his release needs to be tightened up a little more, his three step drop is a little inconsistent, and his deep ball is accurate but needs more air under it. These are all fixable, although the last one typically takes few years. It took Doug Williams almost 10 years to learn that one. Jason will pick it up faster. HIs release and footwork I expect to be top notch by kickoff 08.