The Coordinators

[Canuck]

JLC's latest...

Link (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/02/the_coordinators.html)

The interesting part is how much control Blache has been given over the D. Taking that into consideration that I'd be shocked if our next HC was from a defensive background.

[redskin_rich]

Yeah, I read that a little while ago. I found it reassuring what JLC had to say about Blache. We know we can hold him accountable and the players won't walk all over him like the George Edwards fiasco in '03.

Edit- My worst fears of Mora being coach were confirmed as well, as he wants to bring his spineless buddy Knapp along with him.

[RoanokeSkin]

Again... all signs point to Mooch.

[CNYSkinFan]

If mooch is hired and all this was done with his blessing, then i am fine with this. I wanted Blache all along to be DC so I am happy there. I just think he will actually be more aggressive instead of pretending to be and then running soft cover 2s and linging up the saeftieds in the stands.

I am wondering about Zorn. I do not want a pure WC offense but would like to see an adaptation using the talents of Cooley, JC, Portis, and Moss. If he can adapt his system to the players and produce on the field, then I am happy.

The only reason for optimism in my mind is that all reports are showing that the OC and HC candidates are being told JC is the guy and they are being chosen with that in mind. We need to sink or swim with JC over the next 2-3 years. If it does not work out, blow up the team and start over...again

[Meatsnack]

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I am wondering about Zorn. I do not want a pure WC offense but would like to see an adaptation using the talents of Cooley, JC, Portis, and Moss. If he can adapt his system to the players and produce on the field, then I am happy.
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Wel, we know that Zorn didn't pay in a WCO as a QB. We also know that Holmgren called his own plays in Seattle. So, what Zorn runs on Sunday's when left to his own recognizance is a totally open question.

If we were to hire Mooch, it would probably be a more strict WCO attack. If we got the McDaniels kid, it would probably be a more pro-set, multiple formations offense. Under Meeks or Spagnuolo he owuld probably be left to his own devices a lot. So, we could get anything from Ground Chuck (Noll), a spread formation passing offense (both of which he QBed in Seattle), a WCO, A holmgren run-heavy WCO, or a ixture of all of the above. Add a dash of Buges periodically sending in 50-Gut and it becomes a real fruit salad.

[bergiemoore]

Wel, we know that Zorn didn't pay in a WCO as a QB. We also know that Holmgren called his own plays in Seattle. So, what Zorn runs on Sunday's when left to his own recognizance is a totally open question.

If we were to hire Mooch, it would probably be a more strict WCO attack. If we got the McDaniels kid, it would probably be a more pro-set, multiple formations offense. Under Meeks or Spagnuolo he owuld probably be left to his own devices a lot. So, we could get anything from Ground Chuck (Noll), a spread formation passing offense (both of which he QBed in Seattle), a WCO, A holmgren run-heavy WCO, or a ixture of all of the above. Add a dash of Buges periodically sending in 50-Gut and it becomes a real fruit salad.

So long as they score early and often, I don't care what he runs.

[shally]

JLC's latest...

Link (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/02/the_coordinators.html)

The interesting part is how much control Blache has been given over the D. Taking that into consideration that I'd be shocked if our next HC was from a defensive background.

unless, spagnuolo has already given approval to blache as DC, i would think this is a strike against him..

Yeah, I read that a little while ago. I found it reassuring what JLC had to say about Blache. We know we can hold him accountable and the players won't walk all over him like the George Edwards fiasco in '03.

Edit- My worst fears of Mora being coach were confirmed as well, as he wants to bring his spineless buddy Knapp along with him.

thank goodness mora was never a consideration to any serious degree

Again... all signs point to Mooch.

i agree, this makes mooch more likely, but it could also work with mcdaniel who would not have to worry about the defensive side of the ball

If mooch is hired and all this was done with his blessing, then i am fine with this. I wanted Blache all along to be DC so I am happy there. I just think he will actually be more aggressive instead of pretending to be and then running soft cover 2s and linging up the saeftieds in the stands.

I am wondering about Zorn. I do not want a pure WC offense but would like to see an adaptation using the talents of Cooley, JC, Portis, and Moss. If he can adapt his system to the players and produce on the field, then I am happy.

The only reason for optimism in my mind is that all reports are showing that the OC and HC candidates are being told JC is the guy and they are being chosen with that in mind. We need to sink or swim with JC over the next 2-3 years. If it does not work out, blow up the team and start over...again

you might think we have to sink or swim with JC, but it is no guarantee that the new HC feels the same way... yes, i am certain that the new HC will give lip service to snyder of saying he wants to develop JC, but once he gets here it will be totally based upon JC's continuing progress... in fact, i will go on record as saying, that if it is mooch, he wont allow his regime to ever get sucked down again by an underproducing qb.. having gone through the misery that was joey harrington, he wont go down that pathway again.

expect if mooch is selected for him to bring on an experienced WCO qb immediately as back up to JC, and we will draft another qb this year as well.

JC is not going to be the personal selection of either the OC or HC. no matter how much gibbs paid to get him, that is a check that has already been cashed. he will start as long as her deserves to start

[openallnight]

Again... all signs point to Mooch.

or McDaniels.

[shally]

Wel, we know that Zorn didn't pay in a WCO as a QB. We also know that Holmgren called his own plays in Seattle. So, what Zorn runs on Sunday's when left to his own recognizance is a totally open question.

If we were to hire Mooch, it would probably be a more strict WCO attack. If we got the McDaniels kid, it would probably be a more pro-set, multiple formations offense. Under Meeks or Spagnuolo he owuld probably be left to his own devices a lot. So, we could get anything from Ground Chuck (Noll), a spread formation passing offense (both of which he QBed in Seattle), a WCO, A holmgren run-heavy WCO, or a ixture of all of the above. Add a dash of Buges periodically sending in 50-Gut and it becomes a real fruit salad.

no big deal, but "ground chuck" refers to chuck knox, ex coach of the rams and bills ?, and most certainly not to chuck noll

[Meatsnack]

no big deal, but "ground chuck" refers to chuck knox, ex coach of the rams and bills ?, and most certainly not to chuck noll

That's twice in two days I have had cranial flatulence on this board. Or more often depending on who is keeping score. ;) Maybe this sleep thing isn't as over-rated as I thought...

Chuck Knox coached the Seahawks from '83 to '91. Zorn was the QB starter for a half-season in '83 and the back-up to Dave Kreig through the '84 season. Zorn then departed for Green Bay, Winnipeg, and ended his playing career in Tampa Bay in '87. In any case, he played in the Ground Chuck offense.

[hail2skins]

If mooch is hired and all this was done with his blessing, then i am fine with this. I wanted Blache all along to be DC so I am happy there. I just think he will actually be more aggressive instead of pretending to be and then running soft cover 2s and linging up the saeftieds in the stands.

According to the video interview of him on Redskins.com, that's not necessarily the case. He believes in CB's as opposed to the DL; that's a strike against him. He mentioned how he played complete cover-2 when he didn't have good CB's. He was ready to retire but the Skins made him an offer he couldn't refuse. Hmmm, I'm a bit concerned right now.

[hail2skins]

unless, spagnuolo has already given approval to blache as DC, i would think this is a strike against him..

Hmmm, are you insinuating that we tampered?

[SkinsfaninNJ]

Hmmm, are you insinuating that we tampered?

If we hire Spags, there will people who think that for sure.

[shally]

Hmmm, are you insinuating that we tampered?

i think there are ways back channel talks could have already happened BUT assuming they havent, it makes the hire of spagnuolo less likely

If we hire Spags, there will people who think that for sure.

there is tampering and there is TAMPERING.. at this point it appears were have certainly abided by the letter of the law

[akhhorus]

If we hire Spags, there will people who think that for sure.

If we hire Spags, either we totally tampered, or Spags is little more than a puppet.

[shally]

If we hire Spags, either we totally tampered, or Spags is little more than a puppet.

ugh... giving me heartburn..

i think the strength of blache's attitude towards the DC position would tend to move the possibilities more to selecting an offensive minded HC

still, if spagnuolo can contain the patriot offense, i can see snyder making him an offer that is mighty hard to walk away from

i dont see blache remaining this active for that long. the big worry for me were the comments by canfora that what blache wants regarding players and coaches, blache gets.. for him to abandon the importance of the DL as GW did is another heartburn producing thought..

[greatest2]

ugh... giving me heartburn..

i think the strength of blache's attitude towards the DC position would tend to move the possibilities more to selecting an offensive minded HC

still, if spagnuolo can contain the patriot offense, i can see snyder making him an offer that is mighty hard to walk away from

i dont see blache remaining this active for that long. the big worry for me were the comments by canfora that what blache wants regarding players and coaches, blache gets.. for him to abandon the importance of the DL as GW did is another heartburn producing thought..

dare i say, he might negletic them more then GW. here is how i see it, he was dline coach right? so maybe he believes in his guys, doesn't want to see them get the ax, believes they can produce, and he keeps them. uh oh, no dline now. he also loves him some corners, so expect to see a corner in early rounds AND free agency. all well and good, but it lends me to thinking that we will be a bend but don't break team instead of an aggressive team. i hope i am wrong

[SimplyZ]

Though everyone seems worried about the Dline thing...you have to assume blatche had a bit say in the drafting and continued success of montgomery/golston whom we didn't really expect to have the impact they have had

I'm in total disagreement with blatche if he retains and doesnt upgrade daniels at the end position, but i think people should keep a little faith in his eye or defensive line talent. If he can pull a 4th rounder into a starting gig in a year and a half, i'll cross my fingers that he can use a 1st or 2nd rounder this year to bring in someone that can share or takeover opposite carter

but maybe i've just got my burgundy and gold sunglasses on...

[wewantdallas]

He was ready to retire but the Skins made him an offer he couldn't refuse. Hmmm, I'm a bit concerned right now.

That's exactly how I feel. The guy wanted to retire. That bothers me as far as him having the energy/drive to do what it takes to give the defense every possible advantage. Don't get me wrong - I'm behind him. But definitely a "bit concerned" too.

[shally]

That's exactly how I feel. The guy wanted to retire. That bothers me as far as him having the energy/drive to do what it takes to give the defense every possible advantage. Don't get me wrong - I'm behind him. But definitely a "bit concerned" too.

then maybe he can co exist with spagnuolo if he sees himself as having done his part by keeping the defensive team together, and letting spagnulo remake the schemes in his image.. ????

yeh, i know that sounds thin to me as well..

i take consolation in the fact that he was a superior DC with the bears.. hopefully he hasnt forgotten what got them there...

[NCskinsfanatic]

That's exactly how I feel. The guy wanted to retire. That bothers me as far as him having the energy/drive to do what it takes to give the defense every possible advantage. Don't get me wrong - I'm behind him. But definitely a "bit concerned" too.

Maybe he was ready to retire because of GW likely being named the new HC, maybe he didnt forsee the opportunity to be a DC again, atleast not here...not with as much control. That and more $ may have rekindled his desire to be that guy. Either way I don't think he'll produce any worse than Gdub...

[shally]

Maybe he was ready to retire because of GW likely being named the new HC, maybe he didnt forsee the opportunity to be a DC again, atleast not here...not with as much control. That and more $ may have rekindled his desire to be that guy. Either way I don't think he'll produce any worse than Gdub...

we need better, not more of the same...

we need this to be over and get on with the business of moving this team forward via free agency and the draft

[skinsfan36]

we need better, not more of the same...

we need this to be over and get on with the business of moving this team forward via free agency and the draft

amen free agency is only 4 wks away

[Hr fan]

JLC's latest...

Link (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/02/the_coordinators.html)

The interesting part is how much control Blache has been given over the D. Taking that into consideration that I'd be shocked if our next HC was from a defensive background.

Concur. Also applies to OC. I would be surprised if the new HC has a football background at all.