UPDATED: Spags out and Who Knows if Anyone Wants This Job

[AliBabba]

For those of you who prefer Spags to Fassel, a glimmer of light:

Redskins owner Daniel Snyder began courting New York Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo last night, league sources said, when the men engaged in a phone conversation. By Wednesday morning they will become much better acquainted.


Spagnuolo is set to fly to Dulles in a few hours, after the Giants parade concludes, and he will begin formally interviewing for the head coaching position tonight after Snyder completes a press conference at Redskins Park with Art Monk and Darrell Green. Spagnuolo's session is scheduled to continue into Wednesday, league sources said, and he is very excited about this opportunity.


As I pointed out in today's story, the staff issues that come with hiring a head coach last are not the end of the world in this case and they could work around much of that. If the Redskins decide that Spagnuolo is their man, then I think there would be ample mutual attraction to get a deal done. Jim Fassel has been their front runner, but this plot has changed several times already and they've left Fassel by the side of the road before. That's part of the deal when you're doing business with these guys.


I hear that the initial communication between the sides was very positive. We'll see how it goes when they get down to hashing out issues of football, strategy, personnel and staff.


EDIT: Sorry adding the link (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/02/spags_and_snyder_already_commu.html)... although if you don't know where to find JLC's blog by now ...

[VegasSkinsFan]

So far so good. GO SKINS !!!!!!

[SkinsfaninNJ]

I have to say, and I may live to regret this, but I was always luke warm about Fassel and a little less about Mooch. I focussed on the positives rather than the negatives. But thinking about this guy coaching the team next year especially with his young, fiery approach has butterflies in my stomach.

[Taylor21TheUndertaker]

I have to say, and I may live to regret this, but I was always luke warm about Fassel and a little less about Mooch. I focussed on the positives rather than the negatives. But thinking about this guy coaching the team next year especially with his young, fiery approach has butterflies in my stomach.

Me too, but I'm gonna have to prepare to be Fasselized.

[JsMaViSd]

i dunno im kinda iffy bout this still

[smoak]

EDIT: Sorry adding the link (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/02/spags_and_snyder_already_commu.html)... although if you don't know where to find JLC's blog by now ...

LOL! I actually only read JLC when someone posts it here. :D

I was 99% sure the coach was Fassel/Mooch until the Giants fif what they did in the playoffs/Super Bowl.

[AliBabba]

LOL! I actually only read JLC when someone posts it here. :D

I was 99% sure the coach was Fassel/Mooch until the Giants fif what they did in the playoffs/Super Bowl.
fair enough ... the linkage shall continue then

But you know this does leave the door open to some PM shenanigans don't you

"hey smoak, i can't start a thread but maybe you can post this on my behalf ... link coming but JLC's blog says the skins just made Katie Holmes Cruise the new chaplain and we are officially gonna be the first team that practices Scientology in the lockerroom before games!!"

[SkinsfaninNJ]

i dunno im kinda iffy bout this still

I was always in favor of giving a young guy with something to prove a chance, which is why my first choice was Grimm. That's something Spags brings. Also, like Grimm, I think he knows the importance of building from both sides of the line.

[Lavar703]

I dont know whats going to happen, John Clayton just said that its Jim Fassels job and Spags is just there to interview, and he wont get the job. I know Clayton has been pretty clueless lately and is pretty much a talking head now but why would we have all our assistants set and then hire spags, just doesnt make sense.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

I dont know whats going to happen, John Clayton just said that its Jim Fassels job and Spags is just there to interview, and he wont get the job. I know Clayton has been pretty clueless lately and is pretty much a talking head now but why would we have all our assistants set and then hire spags, just doesnt make sense.

I truly believe no one but Snyder knows what's going to happen and that includes Vinny. I like to think Vinny will find out when the rest of us do.:)

[Skins-R-Us]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3232394

ESPN Link

[AliBabba]

I was always in favor of giving a young guy with something to prove a chance, which is why my first choice was Grimm. That's something Spags brings. Also, like Grimm, I think he knows the importance of building from both sides of the line.
Um Spagnuolo does not qualify as a "young guy" today in the NFL. He is 48 and there quite a few sub-40 HCs running around these days.

Something to prove, yes, but everyone does ... young guy, no, i don't think so at least

[bergiemoore]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3232394

ESPN Link

When did Mariucci go from a viable candidate to "no longer under consideration"?

[redskin_rich]

When did Mariucci go from a viable candidate to "no longer under consideration"?
After his interviews?

Fine by me, I didn't want Mooch anyway.

[shally]

For those of you who prefer Spags to Fassel, a glimmer of light:



EDIT: Sorry adding the link (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/02/spags_and_snyder_already_commu.html)... although if you don't know where to find JLC's blog by now ...

more than a glimmer, i think..... ahhhhhhhh... dont blow it now, snyderrato...

[SkinsfaninNJ]

Um Spagnuolo does not qualify as a "young guy" today in the NFL. He is 48 and there quite a few sub-40 HCs running around these days.

Something to prove, yes, but everyone does ... young guy, no, i don't think so at least

As compared to Fassel?

[shally]

I dont know whats going to happen, John Clayton just said that its Jim Fassels job and Spags is just there to interview, and he wont get the job. I know Clayton has been pretty clueless lately and is pretty much a talking head now but why would we have all our assistants set and then hire spags, just doesnt make sense.

it makes sense in the context of, just who do you think spags could get as his coaches at this late date ?

and, if you want to be a HC, this is your only shot this year

and, money talks for certain

and, if it was fassel's job, he would have had it by now. mooch i can see waiting for, but not fassel....

[akhhorus]

What's the point of hiring Vinny as the de facto GM if Snyder is the point man?

[shally]

What's the point of hiring Vinny as the de facto GM if Snyder is the point man?

twisted man love ????.........lol

who the heck actually knows what the real dynamic is between those two ??

[akhhorus]

twisted man love ????.........lol

who the heck actually knows what the real dynamic is between those two ??

*shudders* I just went to a bad mental place.

[AliBabba]

As compared to Fassel?
In that comparison yes, league-wide, not so much anymore. 48 is still def on the younger side but I was just making the point that with the likes of Mangini and Lane Kiffin (at least temporarily) holding HC positions and people like Jason McDaniel being mentioned, the term "young guy" means something else in today's NFL

[AliBabba]

What's the point of hiring Vinny as the de facto GM if Snyder is the point man?
Accountability (lol)

[shally]

In that comparison yes, league-wide, not so much anymore. 48 is still def on the younger side but I was just making the point that with the likes of Mangini and Lane Kiffin (at least temporarily) holding HC positions and people like Jason McDaniel being mentioned, the term "young guy" means something else in today's NFL

even chuckie is still younger than spags.. as are del rio, the new guy at miami
and tomlin...

[Jon Creveling]

As per the report does anyone find it strange that they don't wait a few days and let the guy enjoy the parade? Not anti-Spags at all, but I' d think you'd meet up maybe over the weekend in maybe a more relaxed meeting. Any one in N.J. live up near Teterboro to keep an eye out?:)

[SkinsfaninNJ]

even chuckie is still younger than spags.. as are del rio, the new guy at miami
and tomlin...

I think you guys are failing to see Snyder's interview pattern. For the duration of his ownership, he has not shown a desire to pay an unknown as HC. Having a one year coordinator who is not close to approaching 60 is very young in Redskins years even if not so young as measured by NFL years.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

As per the report does anyone find it strange that they don't wait a few days and let the guy enjoy the parade? Not anti-Spags at all, but I' d think you'd meet up maybe over the weekend in maybe a more relaxed meeting. Any one in N.J. live up near Teterboro to keep an eye out?:)

I'm starting to read this as Spags being VERY interested in this job. I didn't think that was the case, but my mind is changing on that now.

By the way, I could be completely wrong on this, but its the slant I am getting from the reports and his interviews over the last few days.

[shally]

I think you guys are failing to see Snyder's interview pattern. For the duration of his ownership, he has not shown a desire to pay an unknown as HC. Having a one year coordinator who is not close to approaching 60 is very young in Redskins years even if not so young as measured by NFL years.

snyder has tried different pathways each time...

marty-- older retread coach

spurrier-- hot college coach

gibbs-- return of the legend

why not go with the hot coordinator ? nothing else has really worked for him

I'm starting to read this as Spags being VERY interested in this job. I didn't think that was the case, but my mind is changing on that now.

By the way, I could be completely wrong on this, but its the slant I am getting from the reports and his interviews over the last few days.


and why wouldnt spags be totally interested in the job ? take away the media bashing and this is still one of the best coaching jobs you could possibly imagine..less media pressure than NY and yet, where else do you have senators and supreme court judges fawning over you. it pays royally and you have a grand stage--- as long as you win...

despite snyderrato, he would be a total fool not to take the job. and as both marty and norv have found, there is life as an nfl coach after the redskins if you want it..

he will take it, if offered...

[SkinsfaninNJ]

snyder has tried different pathways each time...

marty-- older retread coach

spurrier-- hot college coach

gibbs-- return of the legend

why not go with the hot coordinator ? nothing else has really worked for him




and why wouldnt spags be totally interested in the job ? take away the media bashing and this is still one of the best coaching jobs you could possibly imagine..less media pressure than NY and yet, where else do you have senators and supreme court judges fawning over you. it pays royally and you have a grand stage--- as long as you win...

despite snyderrato, he would be a total fool not to take the job. and as both marty and norv have found, there is life as an nfl coach after the redskins if you want it..

he will take it, if offered...

I agree that it is a great job. For all of Snyder's faults, he's bound to get it right one of these times. You can't care as much as he does and try as hard as he does and not get the tail on the donkey one time, can you?

[bergiemoore]

snyder has tried different pathways each time...

marty-- older retread coach

spurrier-- hot college coach

gibbs-- return of the legend

why not go with the hot coordinator ? nothing else has really worked for him




and why wouldnt spags be totally interested in the job ? take away the media bashing and this is still one of the best coaching jobs you could possibly imagine..less media pressure than NY and yet, where else do you have senators and supreme court judges fawning over you. it pays royally and you have a grand stage--- as long as you win...

despite snyderrato, he would be a total fool not to take the job. and as both marty and norv have found, there is life as an nfl coach after the redskins if you want it..

he will take it, if offered...

I agree, but does this mean that if Spagnuolo takes the job with Washington, then he'll be the next HC for San Diego?

[Jon Creveling]

I'm starting to read this as Spags being VERY interested in this job. I didn't think that was the case, but my mind is changing on that now.

I have to wonder if Dan makes the offer, do the Giants make an counter offer to retain him at all costs? This may sound far fetched to some on site but being in N.J. man you only know too well what a hero the guy is.

[WRSK1NS]

Here is a link to the AP write up on this, I think it is pretty intersting.

Mortenson, said having the coordinators in place isn't a bad thing because they are all very respectable coordinators and Spags or whomever can change them out next year. He and Mike Trico also brought up the fact that a similar thing happed with Chucky when he took over the TB job and he survived it. Some of the coordinators he inheirited are still there...

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-redskins-coachingsearch&prov=ap&type=lgns

[AliBabba]

I have to wonder if Dan makes the offer, do the Giants make an counter offer to retain him at all costs? This may sound far fetched to some on site but being in N.J. man you only know too well what a hero the guy is.
They should offer him to become the next head coach after Coughlin leaves or else $1M cash

Seriously, no, the Giants just like all other teams recognize that coordinators want to be HCs and if they don't have the position to offer him now they shoudnt stand in his way of going somewhere else

[akhhorus]

They should offer him to become the next head coach after Coughlin leaves or else $1M cash

Seriously, no, the Giants just like all other teams recognize that coordinators want to be HCs and if they don't have the position to offer him now they shoudnt stand in his way of going somewhere else

And a million is tip money for an NFL owner. Also, they don't know if they can negotiate an extension with Coughlin and promise the job to Spags before that is completed.

[AliBabba]

And a million is tip money for an NFL owner. Also, they don't know if they can negotiate an extension with Coughlin and promise the job to Spags before that is completed.
I was only kidding of course, cuz I remember a story similar to that about some other high-profile DC and his hopes of being a HC.

The Gints would obviously ask Spags if there is something they can do that would make him want to stay in NJC but ultimately they would let him walk b/c regardless of contractual clauses I don't remember anyone ever preventing an assistant from leaving to take a HC job elsewhere

[akhhorus]

I was only kidding of course, cuz I remember a story similar to that about some other high-profile DC and his hopes of being a HC.

Williams actually never had that clause. I was very certain that he wouldn't get the job since that was mysteriously leaked on the same day as Gibbs' presser.

[Moe]

And a million is tip money for an NFL owner. Also, they don't know if they can negotiate an extension with Coughlin and promise the job to Spags before that is completed.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought in all the spin and innuendo about GW having a similar 'promise' clause, that such a practice was not allowed by the league.

[CNYSkinFan]

I am glad Dan Snyder reads my blog :)

[AliBabba]

Williams actually never had that clause. I was very certain that he wouldn't get the job since that was mysteriously leaked on the same day as Gibbs' presser.
right, there-in lies the humor, oh forget it ...

[RedskinRyan]

I dont know whats going to happen, John Clayton just said that its Jim Fassels job and Spags is just there to interview, and he wont get the job. I know Clayton has been pretty clueless lately and is pretty much a talking head now but why would we have all our assistants set and then hire spags, just doesnt make sense.

My theory is that Spags has already determined who he wanted as his staff, and Snyder went out and got them for him.

[AliBabba]

My theory is that Spags has already determined who he wanted as his staff, and Snyder went out and got them for him.
NO WAY! That kind of cheating doesn't occur outside of New England

I disagree, the coordinator issue is moot with Spags b/c honestly who else is available to sign as a coordinator now anyhow? He gets experienced guys to help ease his transition and if he hates em, he can change em out next year. I highly doubt DS "tampered"

[SkinsfaninNJ]

They should offer him to become the next head coach after Coughlin leaves or else $1M cash

Seriously, no, the Giants just like all other teams recognize that coordinators want to be HCs and if they don't have the position to offer him now they shoudnt stand in his way of going somewhere else

The Spags situation is not similar to Garrett. It seems to be clear that Wade Phillips is a dead man walking at this point. So while Jones can offer Garrett money to stay as an assistant, what is more appealing is the chance to be the HC in the very near future. The Giants can't offer that to Spags, becuase Coughlin doesn't look to be going anywhere anytime soon.

[WarEagle]

As per the report does anyone find it strange that they don't wait a few days and let the guy enjoy the parade? Not anti-Spags at all, but I' d think you'd meet up maybe over the weekend in maybe a more relaxed meeting. Any one in N.J. live up near Teterboro to keep an eye out?:)

Flecks of tickertape on Snyder's carpet? What a powerful psychological advantage for Spags.

[shally]

My theory is that Spags has already determined who he wanted as his staff, and Snyder went out and got them for him.

blache ? i dont really think so.. i think there might have been back channel communications over whether anyone was UNACCEPTABLE, but that is a far as it went

[shally]

NO WAY! That kind of cheating doesn't occur outside of New England

I disagree, the coordinator issue is moot with Spags b/c honestly who else is available to sign as a coordinator now anyhow? He gets experienced guys to help ease his transition and if he hates em, he can change em out next year. I highly doubt DS "tampered"

that is exactly how i see it.. he could not have gotten whom he wanted as of this point anyway

[WarEagle]

When did Mariucci go from a viable candidate to "no longer under consideration"?

I hope this is true. I dread hearing or uttering the word "Mooch" for the next 4years or so. Sounds like the dim-witted member of a street gang.

[smoak]

fair enough ... the linkage shall continue then

But you know this does leave the door open to some PM shenanigans don't you

"hey smoak, i can't start a thread but maybe you can post this on my behalf ... link coming but JLC's blog says the skins just made Katie Holmes Cruise the new chaplain and we are officially gonna be the first team that practices Scientology in the lockerroom before games!!"

LMAO! The only reason I didn't fall for that is b/c JLC has been so offbase this offeseason. With Snyder in place, it wouldn't surprise me though...

[shally]

I have to wonder if Dan makes the offer, do the Giants make an counter offer to retain him at all costs? This may sound far fetched to some on site but being in N.J. man you only know too well what a hero the guy is.

they cant, and keep coughlin at the same time.. coughlin is reportedly going to be offered up to a 4 year extension. there is simply no way that spags can sit and wait for that long to be giant coach

he could sign his own extension allowing him to opt out for a HC job in the future. but that is still pie in the sky. he will never be more attractive than he is now and if the giants fall back, he could lose some of his luster

the only way he waits is if he is totally turned off by the snyder interview. but HC jobs in the nfl are so coveted he would be a fool to do so

[syphy]

snyder has tried different pathways each time...

marty-- older retread coach

spurrier-- hot college coach

gibbs-- return of the legend

why not go with the hot coordinator ? nothing else has really worked for him



The hot coordinator didn't turn out to be so hot in Norv's case.....

[shally]

The hot coordinator didn't turn out to be so hot in Norv's case.....

true... but that wasnt snyder's fault... all those dallas coordinators under jimmy johnson were chumps (norv, wannstedt, gailey,campo)--- losers all

that was a one man organization when JJ was in charge.. i dont know if there was ever a better evaluator of talent over a short period of time

[syphy]

true... but that wasnt snyder's fault... all those dallas coordinators under jimmy johnson were chumps (norv, wannstedt, gailey,campo)--- losers all

that was a one man organization when JJ was in charge.. i dont know if there was ever a better evaluator of talent over a short period of time


I agree completely.

I wish Snyder would try to emulate him instead of Jones' meddlesome antics. It hasn't worked for Jerry why does Snyder think he can make it work.

[GloryHog]

I agree that it is a great job. For all of Snyder's faults, he's bound to get it right one of these times. You can't care as much as he does and try as hard as he does and not get the tail on the donkey one time, can you?

DING, DING, DING...You hit the nail on the head. Snyder did not get where he is today without having failed on multiple occasions. The thing that separates him from the average man (other than the facts that he's exceptionally smart, cunning and posesses some very large cojones) is that he won't quit until he does succeed.

"A man can fail many times, but he isn’t a failure
until he begins to blame somebody else."
John Burroughs

"Failure is the condiment that gives success its flavor."
Truman Capote

"Failure is instructive. The person who really thinks
learns quite as much from his failures as from his successes."
John Dewey

"Failure is success if we learn from it."
Malcolm Forbes

"There is the greatest practical benefit
in making a few failures early in life."
T. H. Huxley

"Failure is, in a sense, the highway to success,
inasmuch as every discovery of what is false
leads us to seek earnestly after what is true."
John Keats

"Failures, repeated failures, are finger posts
on the road to achievement.
One fails forward to success."
Charles F. Kettering

If anybody thinks that Snyder hasn't learned anything over the last several years, I believe you underestimate him. I for one would not bet against the Skins once again winning the Superbowl with Snyder at the controls.

[smoak]

John Burroughs
Truman Capote
John Dewey
Malcolm Forbes
T. H. Huxley
John Keats
Charles F. Kettering


And which one of these guys has a Super Bowl ring??? :D

Love the optimism, and I am hoping I can find it again soon.

[RedskinRyan]

The hot coordinator didn't turn out to be so hot in Norv's case.....

Snyder didn't hire Turner

[NCskinsfanatic]

Nope he didnt hire Norv nor did he trade for Brad Johnson...lol

[Jon Creveling]

they cant, and keep coughlin at the same time.. coughlin is reportedly going to be offered up to a 4 year extension. there is simply no way that spags can sit and wait for that long to be giant coach


Are Tisch and Mara cheap? No far from it. The guy is 48 years old so he has time. A thing that may be being overlooked is the guys own feelings. Just say he himself doesn't feel confident enough with his own experience to take the leap to H.C.. Does he feel now at home with the Giants after they gave him a shot? Can he or better yet is there a will on his part to bide his time behind Coughlin? Do not underestimate what this guy means to this team and fanbase, until Tyree's catch the other day they were still talking up Bavarro!:) like I said earlier it does sound far fetched but I could see it happening if Dan makes a legit offer. Not that Jints ownership or Coughlin would ever think about holding the man back, but I would expect an counter offer by the Giants in some form.

[KidBroSweets]

Im actually getting nervous about this. I want Spags bad! Someone posted a youtube video a couple days ago of him coaching LBs in Philly. The guy is just a coach! He knows his stuff and it seems like players love him. He's aggressive and a big time motivator. I think we need that. Ive said all along I really wouldnt mind Fassel, but Im changing that now. If Spags is not offered the job then I will be upset....very upset. But he prolly will.........cause we're the Redskins.

[shally]

Are Tisch and Mara cheap? No far from it. The guy is 48 years old so he has time. A thing that may be being overlooked is the guys own feelings. Just say he himself doesn't feel confident enough with his own experience to take the leap to H.C.. Does he feel now at home with the Giants after they gave him a shot? Can he or better yet is there a will on his part to bide his time behind Coughlin? Do not underestimate what this guy means to this team and fanbase, until Tyree's catch the other day they were still talking up Bavarro!:) like I said earlier it does sound far fetched but I could see it happening if Dan makes a legit offer. Not that Jints ownership or Coughlin would ever think about holding the man back, but I would expect an counter offer by the Giants in some form.

not a chance in hell of that happening if spags really wants to be a HC

only 32 spots available. no one but a fool passes on one. guys like monte kiffin and jim johnson dont want to be a HC.. if spags does, he will jump at the offer

[redskin_rich]

Im actually getting nervous about this. I want Spags bad! Someone posted a youtube video a couple days ago of him coaching LBs in Philly. The guy is just a coach! He knows his stuff and it seems like players love him. He's aggressive and a big time motivator. I think we need that. Ive said all along I really wouldnt mind Fassel, but Im changing that now. If Spags is not offered the job then I will be upset....very upset. But he prolly will.........cause we're the Redskins.
I think it is a 3 horse race now between Spags, Meeks and Fassel, in that order. I'm definitely rooting for Spags and I have been high on him for some time now, even before we needed a coach.

[skinfanjon]

I think it is a 3 horse race now between Spags, Meeks and Fassel, in that order. I'm definitely rooting for Spags and I have been high on him for some time now, even before we needed a coach.

I really, really hope Snyder ses it your way.

[KidBroSweets]

I really, really hope Snyder ses it your way.

I mean how could he not?? Just look at the two guys. Watch them coach. Spags has gotta be the guy............COME ON DAN!!!

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

If Snyder doesn't hire Spagnuolo now, then the negative effect on the fanbase will be ridiculously bigger than it would have been if he had just hired Fassel a few weeks ago.

And to be honest, I have no idea of what will happen. Either Snyder doesn't have a clue about what he's doing, or he has done a superb job fooling everyone.

[MadDog97]

If Snyder doesn't hire Spagnuolo now, then the negative effect on the fanbase will be ridiculously bigger than it would have been if he had just hired Fassel a few weeks ago.

And to be honest, I have no idea of what will happen. Either Snyder doesn't have a clue about what he's doing, or he has done a superb job fooling everyone.

It is the former. Danny has no clue what he is doing, and neither do any of us. I think he will hire Spags but if he takes Fassell then I will not be too happy.

[shally]

If Snyder doesn't hire Spagnuolo now, then the negative effect on the fanbase will be ridiculously bigger than it would have been if he had just hired Fassel a few weeks ago.

And to be honest, I have no idea of what will happen. Either Snyder doesn't have a clue about what he's doing, or he has done a superb job fooling everyone.

i think that snyder could make a case for hiring mooch by saying that spags just wasnt ready.. that might fly, although the negative reaction would be huge.

if he did that and hired fassel i dont know that the eruption would settle down for months...

[redskin_rich]

i think that snyder could make a case for hiring mooch by saying that spags just wasnt ready.. that might fly, although the negative reaction would be huge.

if he did that and hired fassel i dont know that the eruption would settle down for months...

I think Mooch is out of the picture. I think Meeks is the 3rd candidate.

[shally]

I think Mooch is out of the picture. I think Meeks is the 3rd candidate.

i have heard reports both ways.. that mooch is in and mooch is out.. i think there was a report by shefter on the nfl network earlier tonight in which he said that snyder and mooch had spoken again and snyder gave him the "you're still in the running" pat on the back

also saw somewhere that meeks was incredibly prepared and had a comment on what to do with every single player onthe roster, but he was not felt to be forcefull enough to be a HC (i think that one was on espn.com.. sorry so many of them today, my head is spinning.. and that was from one of his (meeks) older mentors-- unattributed so who knows ??)

edit... i think if snyder hires meeks, there will be some disappointment because of the buzz that spagnuolo has generated. BUT people will accept meeks and give him a chance to prove himself.
if he hires fassel at this point, all the hounds are going to be released upon snyder.. it will be a circus, as when the eagles drafted mcnabb. booing and hostility fromthe beginning

[skinsfan36]

its spags or meeks in my opinion

[greatest2]

if snyder hire's fassel after this superbowl, no matter how logical it is or whatever, the fan base will go absolutly crazy.

If he goes mooch, the reaction will be ok, same with meeks.

Everyone wants Spags but would understand if he went mooch or meeks cause spags has only been a coordinator one year, and had a great dline in new york (he said they only blitz 30-35 percent of the time against new england, and that his players just made plays. now some of that is modesty, but there is some truth in there). so the fans would understand not hiring him for either meeks or mooch, but fassel. you think it was bad when the story broke about him probably being the guy, hell, snyder better get the secret service to protect him cause it wont be pretty.

personally i don't see mooch as a canidate anymore. i see fassel as the frontrunner, spags, then meeks.

I don't know what i want. Spags could be great or a byproduct of a great dline. i don't know. Mooch i don't want, he is a players coach which is great, but i don't see him as a coach to go all the way. Fassel is my very last pick, i really don't want him. There isnt much out there to pick from this year. Im rooting for either meeks or spags. Meeks has the pedagree but runs that zone alot and learned from dungy (tampa 2), so little aggression in strategy defensively, while spags is aggressive but who knows if his ideas and stratigies work because had had 3 great DE (tuck is a beast and they got him signed long term)

[AliBabba]

I think Mooch is out of the picture. I think Meeks is the 3rd candidate.
I see it this way as well. The decision will prob be made by early afternoon and then negotiation should began and end before we hear anything. At this point I can't imagine anyone is more impatient than Danny so I doubt the negotiations take too long.... I really hope we hear tonight

[smoak]

I just like that Spags' photo in the Post lookes like a mug shot.

[AliBabba]

From JLC in today's Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/02/06/ST2008020600091.html?sid=ST2008020600091)

A lot of good stuff, nothing new, if you like Spags and think he's the best candidate.

Snyder scheduled a session with Spagnuolo for last night, with talks to resume at Snyder's Potomac home today. Spagnuolo was to spend the evening in a guest house on the Snyder property, as have several other candidates for the Redskins coaching job.

Spagnuolo is extremely interested in the Redskins job, league sources said, despite Washington's unusual decision to hire its new offensive and defensive coordinators and fill most of its coaching staff before picking a head coach.

Spagnuolo does not have any ties to Blache, but would be comfortable working with a new staff, sources said, pointing out he had little previous contact with most of New York's defensive staff before joining the Giants from the Eagles a year ago.

[smoak]

I am setting myself up for the inevitable fall...

"And the Oscar for best performance in the role of second lap dog to Dan Snyder goes to... Jim Fassel"

[JsMaViSd]

im excited, is anyone else? :sun:

[dj_stouty]

if snyder hire's fassel after this superbowl, no matter how logical it is or whatever, the fan base will go absolutly crazy.

No kidding. A Jim Fassell hire could have happened 2 weeks ago.

Makes you wonder if Spags would have even received an interview had they lost the SB. I know the rumor all along was that they were waiting to interview him, but they could have been waiting on Mooch to finish his television contract. It would be pretty amazing if everything shuffled out and Spags became our HC in large part because Eli Manning exectued a last minute TD drive to win the Super Bowl against great odds.

Right now, I think this is a 2-horse race; Jim and Spags. I wonder if Spags has even had the time or energy to prepare for this interview. When HCs interview, it isn't usually an informal process. Many times they prepare charts and plans for the future and historical case studies over their career...etc. When has Spags had any time to do that?

[AliBabba]

im excited, is anyone else? :sun:
trying oh so hard not to be, doing a terrible job at it

[fent]

No kidding. A Jim Fassell hire could have happened 2 weeks ago.

Makes you wonder if Spags would have even received an interview had they lost the SB. I know the rumor all along was that they were waiting to interview him, but they could have been waiting on Mooch to finish his television contract. It would be pretty amazing if everything shuffled out and Spags became our HC in large part because Eli Manning exectued a last minute TD drive to win the Super Bowl against great odds.

Right now, I think this is a 2-horse race; Jim and Spags. I wonder if Spags has even had the time or energy to prepare for this interview. When HCs interview, it isn't usually an informal process. Many times they prepare charts and plans for the future and historical case studies over their career...etc. When has Spags had any time to do that?

i wouldn't be surprised if he either started working on some of that as soon as rumor started flowing that he was the reason we were waiting or his agent told him that we might be interested...whichever actually happened. he wouldn't be in too much of a hole because he already has prep work from two matchups against us this year and all his years in Philly.

[AliBabba]

i wouldn't be surprised if he either started working on some of that as soon as rumor started flowing that he was the reason we were waiting or his agent told him that we might be interested...whichever actually happened. he wouldn't be in too much of a hole because he already has prep work from two matchups against us this year and all his years in Philly.
I just got a a mental image and I think it would have been great if Coughlin walked into Spags' room Saturday night to discuss something (ie sausage links v patties) and found Spags walls and bed covered with diagrams and charts outlining the Skins and his interview with Danny ... from what I know about Coughlin he would have defintely grabbed a cup of tea and helped Spags' out to best of his ability

[AliBabba]

Spags Still In Town

As of 2:15, in real time, as I write this, league sources say that Giants DC Steve Spagnuolo is still in town interviewing for the Redskins head coaching job at owner Daniel Snyder's mansion. The sides began talking face-to-face last evening and Spagnuolo spent the night in a guest house on Snyder's property, as expected. The interview could continue for a while if necessary, as neither side has a pressing need to do anything else at this point.

Things are moving well and harmonious, sources said, and several sources close to the candidates believe that Snyder could make a decision tonight and begin the negotiating process, with a press conference possible Thursday or Friday. A source close to Steve Mariucci said today that the coach remains in the mix, and was given a courtesy phone call, while sources close to Jim Fassel, Spagnuolo and Ron Meeks said they do not believe Mariucci to be as much of a threat as the other candidates.
Until Snyder makes up his mind, no one will know for sure.

LINK (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/02/spags_still_in_town.html)

[JsMaViSd]

oh lord here we go!

[dj_stouty]

Spags Still In Town



LINK (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/02/spags_still_in_town.html)

I'll bet Spags is offered the job late tonight...with rumors leaking sometime tomorrow and a Press conference on Friday.

[fent]

I'll bet Spags is offered the job late tonight...with rumors leaking sometime tomorrow and a Press conference on Friday.

that's my thought as well. we'll hear from Coach Spags by the end of the week.

[KidBroSweets]

that's my thought as well. we'll hear from Coach Spags by the end of the week.

::sigh::....man i hope you guys are right. This is nerve-racking. There's too much stress for me today lol. Ive got the Redskins coaching search and Carolina-Dook tonite.

[shally]

I'll bet Spags is offered the job late tonight...with rumors leaking sometime tomorrow and a Press conference on Friday.

i hope you are right... fingers crossed

[Biggie]

SPAGS SPAGS SPAGS SPAGS SPAGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is exciting news. Since Grimm is getting no consideration whatsoever, I'll take me some Spagnuolo.

[Hrabanmaur]

The length of the interview is definitely a good sign.

[shally]

The length of the interview is definitely a good sign.


agree.. it at shows mutual interest.. and that they are likely exploring different aspects of the position in depth

if it was a quick interview and fly out, i would think it favors one of the other candidates.. the longer it goes, the more it favors spags....

[JsMaViSd]

heard on radio that Giants are now offering Spags new contract offers as well

dont know if its true or not

[Redskinmayhem]

heard on radio that Giants are now offering Spags new contract offers as well

dont know if its true or not
the one good thing about Danny is that if it comes down to the Almighty Dollar, we know we'll win that battle lol.

[AliBabba]

heard on radio that Giants are now offering Spags new contract offers as well

dont know if its true or not
Confirmed by the Times.

The Giants are formulating a contract offer that would include a substantial pay raise to keep Spagnuolo.

LINK (http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080206/SPORTS/931833152/1023/SPORTS01)

IMO, if Danny offers him the job, he'll take it.

[Keino]

Confirmed by the Times.



LINK (http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080206/SPORTS/931833152/1023/SPORTS01)

IMO, if Danny offers him the job, he'll take it.

Okay Omar. You callin' Marlo to the Streets?

[akhhorus]

Okay Omar. You callin' Marlo to the Streets?

Beat me to it lol. I'll tell him myself *BLAM*

[AliBabba]

Okay Omar. You callin' Marlo to the Streets?
Yo Butchie didn't deserve to go down like that, *cbs* yeh I'm calling him into the streets

[akhhorus]

Yo Butchie didn't deserve to go down like that, *cbs* yeh I'm calling him into the streets

Snyder: You won't need that Gregg..
Gregg Williams: You're not here to see me off?
Snyder: Afraid not...
Gregg Williams: My defensive coordinator, he's been a constant disappointment to me. But I treated you like a General Manager.
Snyder: I wasn't meant to play a General Manager. Close your eyes Gregg.
(Vinny walks up behind Williams)

[AliBabba]

Snyder: You won't need that Gregg..
Gregg Williams: You're not here to see me off?
Snyder: Afraid not...
Gregg Williams: My defensive coordinator, he's been a constant disappointment to me. But I treated you like a General Manager.
Snyder: I wasn't meant to play a General Manager. Close your eyes Gregg.
(Vinny walks up behind Williams)
LMAO

... didn't know a stupid avatar change could derail discussion of our new coach so badly ...

[SkinsfaninNJ]

Let's play a game for a minute on Spags. Assume Snyder wants him as much as most of the fans do. Assume Spags says the only sticking point for me is Blanche, and he would take the job if he could bring the Giants LB coach to be the DC.

Would you want Snyder to let Blanche go?

[akhhorus]

Let's play a game for a minute on Spags. Assume Snyder wants him as much as most of the fans do. Assume Spags says the only sticking point for me is Blanche, and he would take the job if he could bring the Giants LB coach to be the DC.

Would you want Snyder to let Blanche go?

You don't do that, you make them "co-defensive coordinators" and find a new job for blache elsewhere next year. Or don't put up any fight if Williams wants him in Jax.

[AliBabba]

Let's play a game for a minute on Spags. Assume Snyder wants him as much as most of the fans do. Assume Spags says the only sticking point for me is Blanche, and he would take the job if he could bring the Giants LB coach to be the DC.

Would you want Snyder to let Blanche go?
I've read in several places today that Spags is cool with Zorn/Blache and that leads me to believe that if the job is offered he will take it. The only contradicting story I've heard about SS' take on our current assistant coaches is from Mortensen and he doesn't seem to be right about much these days, certainly not around DS and the 'skins at least.

[KidBroSweets]

Let's play a game for a minute on Spags. Assume Snyder wants him as much as most of the fans do. Assume Spags says the only sticking point for me is Blanche, and he would take the job if he could bring the Giants LB coach to be the DC.

Would you want Snyder to let Blanche go?


.........YES


Seriously...I dont have anything against the guy.....but whats the big deal with Blache? He's coached a struggling defensive line for 4 years now.

[shally]

You don't do that, you make them "co-defensive coordinators" and find a new job for blache elsewhere next year. Or don't put up any fight if Williams wants him in Jax.

right.. you give blache a title with about 5 words in it ending with "--head coach"
i think blache would be relieved to assume this role because i believe his stated goal was to save the jobs of his assistants and as many of the defensive players as he can. mission accomplished for him..
i doubt he would have any more problems coexisting with spags then he did with GW....

[coffdogg]

i hope you are right... fingers crossedI for one am not sold on SS,having been a DC for only 1 year doesn't sell me that he is the guy. My question.... with the outcrying of support on this board for Spags if he is hired and fails who on here fully admits it. I am along the lines of a former HC like Mooch since he is a west coast guy for life and maybe he could speed along Jason's learning.That being said I am intrigued by Spags but could not pull the trigger if I was in charge.

[shally]

I for one am not sold on SS,having been a DC for only 1 year doesn't sell me that he is the guy. My question.... with the outcrying of support on this board for Spags if he is hired and fails who on here fully admits it. I am along the lines of a former HC like Mooch since he is a west coast guy for life and maybe he could speed along Jason's learning.That being said I am intrigued by Spags but could not pull the trigger if I was in charge.

it is all about risk/reward. there is clearly more risk in the hire of spagnuolo-- as there was in the first hiring of gibbs.. but if he turns out to be the real deal, we have a long term solution

the nfl has proven that you can go to the superbowl with a re-tread coach. in fact, now, 9 out of the last 11 superbowl winning coaches are on their second job. you can make a case for mooch, but he just seems to be a bit too smooth for me. too much of a persona. and too much of a product of the team he inherits.. he got a tremendous team in the niners and had above average success. he got a terrible team in the lions and was a flop.. in the skins he would be likely getting a middle of the road team. history would tend to suggest he would have middling success as HC...

if we cannot land spags, i would be okay with mooch or meeks. if we end up with fassel i would feel that the process was a sham because we could have had him as HC weeks ago....

[coffdogg]

it is all about risk/reward. there is clearly more risk in the hire of spagnuolo-- as there was in the first hiring of gibbs.. but if he turns out to be the real deal, we have a long term solution

the nfl has proven that you can go to the superbowl with a re-tread coach. in fact, now, 9 out of the last 11 superbowl winning coaches are on their second job. you can make a case for mooch, but he just seems to be a bit too smooth for me. too much of a persona. and too much of a product of the team he inherits.. he got a tremendous team in the niners and had above average success. he got a terrible team in the lions and was a flop.. in the skins he would be likely getting a middle of the road team. history would tend to suggest he would have middling success as HC...

if we cannot land spags, i would be okay with mooch or meeks. if we end up with fassel i would feel that the process was a sham because we could have had him as HC weeks ago....I agree with what you said but in todays NFL of win now or else(especially with Snyder)who says he would give any coach even a first time coach a chance to develop.Most teams that are consistently good have a good amount of retention and continuity.If they lose a coach they replace him in house or someone who believes in the same style.

[KidBroSweets]

it is all about risk/reward. there is clearly more risk in the hire of spagnuolo-- as there was in the first hiring of gibbs.. but if he turns out to be the real deal, we have a long term solution

the nfl has proven that you can go to the superbowl with a re-tread coach. in fact, now, 9 out of the last 11 superbowl winning coaches are on their second job. you can make a case for mooch, but he just seems to be a bit too smooth for me. too much of a persona. and too much of a product of the team he inherits.. he got a tremendous team in the niners and had above average success. he got a terrible team in the lions and was a flop.. in the skins he would be likely getting a middle of the road team. history would tend to suggest he would have middling success as HC...

if we cannot land spags, i would be okay with mooch or meeks. if we end up with fassel i would feel that the process was a sham because we could have had him as HC weeks ago....

Why is there so much risk in hiring Spags? If Spags doesnt work out there will be much less griping in DC as if Fassel doesnt work out.

Spags makes much more sense than Fassel. Also, to me there's almost no risk in hiring anyone. I mean we havent won consistently in 16 years, so if we continue to be inconsistent over the next 4 years then to be honest, I wont be surprised one bit.

[coffdogg]

Why is there so much risk in hiring Spags? If Spags doesnt work out there will be much less griping in DC as if Fassel doesnt work out.

Spags makes much more sense than Fassel. Also, to me there's almost no risk in hiring anyone. I mean we havent won consistently in 16 years, so if we continue to be inconsistent over the next 4 years then to be honest, I wont be surprised one bit.That is why the hire is so important.We have to change our persona of a mediocre team back to a consistent threat to win it all.I grew up in the 80's and every year we had a chance. And when Gibbs came back I thought we had a chance.It didn't work out but 2 playoff years out of 4 compared to 1 playoff in 12.We have talent so now we need someone to lead them

[RedskinsDave]

I still don't see what is so great about Spags. I would rather have a guy who has been a head coach with a winning record over a guy who made his name coaching the best line in football.

[KidBroSweets]

I still don't see what is so great about Spags. I would rather have a guy who has been a head coach with a winning record over a guy who made his name coaching the best line in football.

Yeah but just cause hes done it in the past doesnt mean he'll do it in the future. McCarthy and Tomlin have adapted very well. Joe had an unbelievable resume but he came back and was mediocre. We could go back and forth all day with resumes. I just watch videos and hear interviews and watch his demeanor on the sidelines and I feel like he'd make some coach.

[thehogs11]

I for one am not sold on SS,having been a DC for only 1 year doesn't sell me that he is the guy. My question.... with the outcrying of support on this board for Spags if he is hired and fails who on here fully admits it. I am along the lines of a former HC like Mooch since he is a west coast guy for life and maybe he could speed along Jason's learning.That being said I am intrigued by Spags but could not pull the trigger if I was in charge.

Joe Gibbs was only a OC for 2 years

[Keino]

Snyder: You won't need that Gregg..
Gregg Williams: You're not here to see me off?
Snyder: Afraid not...
Gregg Williams: My defensive coordinator, he's been a constant disappointment to me. But I treated you like a General Manager.
Snyder: I wasn't meant to play a General Manager. Close your eyes Gregg.
(Vinny walks up behind Williams)

HAAAAAAAAA. Beautifully played. Dustin as Vinny?

[akhhorus]

HAAAAAAAAA. Beautifully played. Dustin as Vinny?

http://www.lossimpsonsonline.com.ar/personajes/martin-prince-jr/martin-prince.png

Dustin as Cheese.

[CNYSkinFan]

ugh not again

[NCskinsfanatic]

ugh not again

LMAO...

[Keino]

ugh not again

You only have one line..."wheres my cheese?"

[Farmer Ted]

Let's play a game for a minute on Spags. Assume Snyder wants him as much as most of the fans do. Assume Spags says the only sticking point for me is Blanche, and he would take the job if he could bring the Giants LB coach to be the DC.


I think too much has been made of the coordinators that we've hired/promoted. I agree it was sort of a weird thing to do (hiring them before the HC), but look at the Steelers, for example. They had Dick LeBeau as their DC, a premier 3-4 guy. Then they went out and hired Tomlin as their head coach, a 4-3 guy. Tomlin didn't seem to object; I suspect he was damn glad to get a job. I don't see why it would be a problem for Spags to have to work with Blache. I suspect he'll collect his millions and be a happy man.

[hail2skins]

According to JLC, Spags is still in meetings with Snyder at this hour.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/02/spags_and_williams.html

[WarEagle]

JLC just said they're still meeting. When does it go from a job interview to a hostage-taking situation?

(Oops- beat me to it, H2S.)

[CNYSkinFan]

According to JLC, Spags is still in meetings with Snyder at this hour.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/02/spags_and_williams.html
you know what that means....ca-ching for Spags!!!!!

[RedskinsDave]

you know what that means....ca-ching for Spags!!!!!

No, it means they're almost half way done. Snyder knows SO much about football that his interviews last 4 days.

[colkurtz]

Spags is in a very long interview - which is very good.

Spag's friends say that he excels in his interviews.

The Giants will offer an improved salary but it will be 25-40% of HC pay at the Redskins. If Snyder wants him he will not be outbid. No issue here.

I completely agree with Shally - opportunities for HC jobs don't come around very often. Look at GW - he has a great 2004 season with lots of HC interest. Then it all fell apart with him even considering a Linebacker coach job for the Cowgirls before getting the DC at Jacksonville.

The Redskins are a good team, 9-8, with all their draft picks, some $$ for FA. The owner will spend whatever it takes to win. He has an OC and DC approved by both Fassel and Meeks. If he doesn't like them he can dump them in a year.

His pay will be raised by $3-4 million per season and he'll be the Head Coach.

Yeah, he'll gladly take this job and I have high hopes for our defense and our future.

spags, fassel (why?), meeks is probably Snyderrato's order.

[CNYSkinFan]

No, it means they're almost half way done. Snyder knows SO much about football that his interviews last 4 days.
how dare you question the moves of Snyderrato.!!!!!

[hogs86]

Just IMO i think we are about 12 hours from naming Steve Spagnuolo the new redskins coach. He is the only coach to make it to redskins park.

[colkurtz]

Just IMO i think we are about 12 hours from naming Steve Spagnuolo the new redskins coach.

I agree with that. Due to Snyderrato's "unique" hiring style - we were lucky enough to be the only team that could offer him a job.

"Blind squirrel gets the acorn".

[hogs86]

I agree with that. Due to Snyderrato's "unique" hiring style - we were lucky enough to be the only team that could offer him a job.

"Blind squirrel gets the acorn".

Even people who don't know what they are doing can be successful sometimes. :)

[AliBabba]

Even people who don't know what they are doing can be successful sometimes. :)
I'm wondering, what if they really were interested in him all along, just never expected the Gints to make (and win?!?!) the Superbowl. And what if they hired Zorn because they knew they wanted to move a different direction and couldn't let all the decent OC prospects get locked up?

[CNYSkinFan]

I seriously wonder what goes on in Football interviews...seriously? Do they talk about philosophy, game planning, what to do with current personnel....I am mildly curious why Snyder's interviews seem to last as long as a ken burns documentary.

[colkurtz]

Even people who don't know what they are doing can be successful sometimes. :)

Yes, although Snyderrato's coaching search sometimes bordered on the bizarre, it appears that the Dallas - Giants game [Spag's controlled Romo] convinced Danny to hold up the process and wait to talk to spag's.

If either romo or brady had torched the Giants bad, Jim Fassel would be the HC right now.

[colkurtz]

I seriously wonder what goes on in Football interviews...seriously? Do they talk about philosophy, game planning, what to do with current personnel....I am mildly curious why Snyder's interviews seem to last as long as a ken burns documentary.

It's because Snyder talks in Entish in his own house. It takes him a long time to form words.

[akhhorus]

It's because Snyder talks in Entish in his own house. It takes him a long time to form words.

http://www.willisms.com/archives/treebeard.jpg

"How do you feel about sycophantic Executive VPs?"

[colkurtz]

http://www.willisms.com/archives/treebeard.jpg

"How do you feel about sycophantic Executive VPs?"

Vinny = sycophant = a self-seeking, servile flatterer; fawning parasite.

I'll take a toady as the VP of football IF he can draft well

[greatest2]

this interview is going on mad long now...

maybe they really really hit it off???

[AliBabba]

According to JLC, Spags is still in meetings with Snyder at this hour.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/02/spags_and_williams.html
Just read this, GW says some really classy stuff. Is very gracious to DS and the skins as a whole.

I always thought he was a good coach, and also think that he matured in terms of how to relate to the players, and possibly the media as well, during his time here - much like Coughlin supposedly has in NY

[colkurtz]

this interview is going on mad long now...

maybe they really really hit it off???

In Snyder land - longer interviews bode better for the candidate.

Besides, Snyder won't make the announcement until tomorrow or Friday anyway.

[WarEagle]

I seriously wonder what goes on in Football interviews...seriously? Do they talk about philosophy, game planning, what to do with current personnel....I am mildly curious why Snyder's interviews seem to last as long as a ken burns documentary.

Snyder might've told Spags to sleep late today. Afterall, he had a busy, possibly exhausting 48 hours.

[shally]

this interview is going on mad long now...

maybe they really really hit it off???

7 figure contracts have a lot of fine print

or

spags has the ny giant GM on his cell phone and they are going back and forth

(seriously, everything i have read indicates that the giants are offering to make him "one of the highest paid coordinators ever".. that might translate into about 2 mil per year to just run the defense.. no other promises included, so it means he will be DC and nothing more with the giants because coughlin is not stepping down any time soon.

al davis is supposedly paying kiffin about 2 mil per year as HC. you think if he dumps kiffin next year and makes spags an offer he is going to be paying that much more ?? i doubt that jauron is making much more. i doubt that lovie smith is making too much more. i doubt that tomlin is making that much more

my point is that snyder is likely already talking far more than any of those guys are making. he is going to have to pay mooch in the range of 5 mil per year, so why not pay spags 3-4 mil to get the guy he really wants ?
snyder is not cheap and spags has to realize that if he is successful, in short order he is going to be royally rich. how much do you need to be comfortable ? this is a guy who has bumped along as a lower level coach for quite some time now. you think he is going to pass on a chance to set himself up for life with one deal ? he is a fool to even consider anything else. and if the giants return to mediocrity next year due to injuries or bad luck, just how hot will spags be ? ask GW how many people called him to be a head coach in the past couple of year...

[AliBabba]

According to broadcast reports, Dan Snyder’s interview with Steve Spagnuolo has moved to Redskins Park.
That would seem to be a good indicator for those who are in favor of the hiring of the Super Bowl champs’ defensive coordinator, but, as has been the case throughout the process, we really don’t know. Perhaps Spagnuolo is not sold and Snyder wants to show him the facilities in Ashburn before taking him to Dulles for the flight back to New York. Or, back to the first possibility, maybe the team headquarters will serve as a meeting place for the team’s lawyers, Spagnuolo, and his agent to draw up a contract.


LINK (http://redskinsgames.com/blog2/2008/02/07/spagnuolo-at-redskins-park/)

[shally]

LINK (http://redskinsgames.com/blog2/2008/02/07/spagnuolo-at-redskins-park/)

that is where snyder has his deepest dungeon into which spags will be cast until he agrees to sign...lol

i think it has nothing to do with the facilities.. it likely has a number of private rooms where spags and his agent can discuss things or it is a good place for the entire staff to gather to meet and talk... or maybe just something as hokey as showing him his new office with his name already on the door (i wouldnt put it past snyder to do something like that)

[AliBabba]

7 figure contracts have a lot of fine print

or

spags has the ny giant GM on his cell phone and they are going back and forth

(seriously, everything i have read indicates that the giants are offering to make him "one of the highest paid coordinators ever".. that might translate into about 2 mil per year to just run the defense.. no other promises included, so it means he will be DC and nothing more with the giants because coughlin is not stepping down any time soon.

al davis is supposedly paying kiffin about 2 mil per year as HC. you think if he dumps kiffin next year and makes spags an offer he is going to be paying that much more ?? i doubt that jauron is making much more. i doubt that lovie smith is making too much more. i doubt that tomlin is making that much more

my point is that snyder is likely already talking far more than any of those guys are making. he is going to have to pay mooch in the range of 5 mil per year, so why not pay spags 3-4 mil to get the guy he really wants ?
snyder is not cheap and spags has to realize that if he is successful, in short order he is going to be royally rich. how much do you need to be comfortable ? this is a guy who has bumped along as a lower level coach for quite some time now. you think he is going to pass on a chance to set himself up for life with one deal ? he is a fool to even consider anything else. and if the giants return to mediocrity next year due to injuries or bad luck, just how hot will spags be ? ask GW how many people called him to be a head coach in the past couple of year...
I don't think there's anyway Spags turns the job down IF its offered, the news that they are at Redskins Park bodes well, very well

[colkurtz]

Longer is better if you want spags.

Snyder is taking him to asburn to show him his new haunts.

Most teams go downhill after the SB - the HC offers might only come from truly poor teams or perpetual losers.

Spags will take this offer and run with it.

[shally]

I don't think there's anyway Spags turns the job down IF its offered, the news that they are at Redskins Park bodes well, very well

totally agree. you dont need to spend that kind of time if things are not very close to set

plus, i cannot see snyder spending that kind of time or effort if he is not truly interested in spags.. you dont do that if you are ambivalent about a candidate. or if you think that fassel is the better hire...

where is the white smoke ????

[shally]

Longer is better if you want spags.

Snyder is taking him to asburn to show him his new haunts.

Most teams go downhill after the SB - the HC offers might only come from truly poor teams or perpetual losers.

Spags will take this offer and run with it.

spags 1040 is about to add at least one ZERO

[AliBabba]

totally agree. you dont need to spend that kind of time if things are not very close to set

plus, i cannot see snyder spending that kind of time or effort if he is not truly interested in spags.. you dont do that if you are ambivalent about a candidate. or if you think that fassel is the better hire...

where is the white smoke ????
Maybe Fassel has found out by now that DS took Spags to the Park and is defaming yet another picture of him

After all of this, say Spags doesn't get the job, wouldn't some of the Gints and their coaches look at him a little differently, at least at first for having literally spent the night with the enemy and had an all day play date?

[akhhorus]

that is where snyder has his deepest dungeon into which spags will be cast until he agrees to sign...lol


"Why am I surround by such Fricking Idiots?!?!?!"

(pushes button sending Saunders into the volcano)

[shally]

"Why am I surround by such Fricking Idiots?!?!?!"

(pushes button sending Saunders into the volcano)

they are who we thought they were.....

[shally]

Maybe Fassel has found out by now that DS took Spags to the Park and is defaming yet another picture of him

After all of this, say Spags doesn't get the job, wouldn't some of the Gints and their coaches look at him a little differently, at least at first for having literally spent the night with the enemy and had an all day play date?

if they felt that way they wouldnt have prepared an offer to bump his salary as DC

they would love to keep him, but you can only have one HC

still, if pierce has any more reason to be p****d at the skins front office his head might explode

[ryflan47]

Let's be honest - who's going to be the guy who grows the Spags goatee if we hire him?

[shally]

Let's be honest - who's going to be the guy who grows the Spags goatee if we hire him?

maybe we can get sellers to give him some grooming tips for his goatee ???

[skin4ever]

Let's be honest - who's going to be the guy who grows the Spags goatee if we hire him?

B. Lloyd if he wants to be on this team next year. LOL.

[The Skinsinator]

maybe we can get sellers to give him some grooming tips for his goatee ???LOL I think the opposite would actually apply although Seller's long twisted goatee is pretty sweet. :D

[colkurtz]

if they felt that way they wouldnt have prepared an offer to bump his salary as DC

they would love to keep him, but you can only have one HC

still, if pierce has any more reason to be p****d at the skins front office his head might explode

I wonder if any of the G-men will come here and follow spags. We might even get an Eagle or two for the same reason. FINALLY the river will flow TOWARD us in the NFC East.

Spags will attract defensive players who want to be with a top unit. Yeah!

[shally]

I wonder if any of the G-men will come here and follow spags. We might even get an Eagle or two for the same reason. FINALLY the river will flow TOWARD us in the NFC East.

Spags will attract defensive players who want to be with a top unit. Yeah!

i can easily see gibril wilson coming. he is an UFA this offseason and would fill a nice spot in the secondary for safety depth

[AliBabba]

i can easily see gibril wilson coming. he is an UFA this offseason and would fill a nice spot in the secondary for safety depth
ugh, maybe somebody other than Gibril, I'd have to eat a lot of crow for things I've said about him over the years to a friend ....

don't they have a decent middle linebacker? maybe he's available

[LATrueRedskin]

I'm liking Spags more by the minute. If Snyder ends up taking Fassel, I swear to God.....

[Biggie]

i can easily see gibril wilson coming. he is an UFA this offseason and would fill a nice spot in the secondary for safety depth
I hear Jeremiah Trotter is available.

[colkurtz]

I'm liking Spags more by the minute. If Snyder ends up taking Fassel, I swear to God.....

If Snyder takes Fassel this site and others will melt down with venom and disgust.

Hiring spag's will go a long way toward getting ppl down the road from this last 31 days. People will start getting excited about the draft and FA period.

[Sean36]

[QUOTE=colkurtz;1080526]If Snyder takes Fassel this site and others will melt down with venom and disgust.

Hiring spag's will go a long way toward getting ppl down the road from this last 31 days. People will start getting excited about the draft and FA period.

When we get spags, our team won't go easy on our opponents if we are up by 21. We will be violent on defense & LL will be feared & respected. Portis in the WCO is going to get 1700 yrds and get his respect to.:sun: HTTR!!!!!!!

[SkinsfaninNJ]

JLC says sources close to the candidates think a decision could come as early as tonight. I'll be on the look out tomorrow for sure.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/

As of this moment - 8 pm. - Giants DC Steve Spagnuolo remains in meetings with owner Daniel Snyder about Washington's head coaching vacancy. Things continue to move along and sources close to several candidates believe Snyder will make a decision tonight, with Spagnuolo and Jim Fassel the most likely choices.

[hogs86]

Fours years ago Gibbs was hired after midnight. I think we should prepare for a press conference tomorrow. Dan Snyder likes to work late nights.

[skinsfan36]

Fours years ago Gibbs was hired after midnight. I think we should prepare for a press conference tomorrow. Dan Snyder likes to work late nights.

hope that is the case this time

[AliBabba]

JLCs most recent blog states that as of 1am no offer has been made according to league sorces but that Spags is very enthused about the job

[shally]

JLCs most recent blog states that as of 1am no offer has been made according to league sorces but that Spags is very enthused about the job

my reading of the blog was that no decision had been made.. i did not interpret it as saying that no offers had been made... and that fassel and spags were thought to be in the lead, but that meeks and mooch had not been informed as of 1 AM that they were out of the running

sounds like we should know by morning

[silverspring]

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/02/late_nite_update.html

Tomorrow will probably be the day. Spags makes me nervous because of his inexperience and because he is such an unknown. Not too mention who will help zorn. But i am starting to think that i agree with shally that the risk reward might be worth it....compared to fassel anyways.

[colkurtz]

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/02/late_nite_update.html

Tomorrow will probably be the day. Spags makes me nervous because of his inexperience and because he is such an unknown. Not too mention who will help zorn. But i am starting to think that i agree with shally that the risk reward might be worth it....compared to fassel anyways.

Fassel is a two time loser and has been out of the game for 4 years. A 'solid' choice but I doubt a long-term one.

Spags is more risk but brings more recent experience and SUCESS with him. This defense will improve. The offense - we we'll have to see. If Spags and ZORN pan out we could have them for years to come. Take the chance.

[fent]

i don't think i'll really be able to work all that much until this announcement is made. c'mon danny...pull the trigger!

[JsMaViSd]

i don't think i'll really be able to work all that much until this announcement is made. c'mon danny...pull the trigger!

yeeeea

[skins111111]

hope we hear today that Spags is our new coach, the longer he is with Dan the better and its been a while now....................I wish Fassel was out of the picture, that way this wouldn't be so stressfull....aaahhhhhhhhhhhh

[SkinsfaninNJ]

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/02/late_nite_update.html

Tomorrow will probably be the day. Spags makes me nervous because of his inexperience and because he is such an unknown. Not too mention who will help zorn. But i am starting to think that i agree with shally that the risk reward might be worth it....compared to fassel anyways.

Why is there this idea that Zorn needs help? The man has been around football his whole life. Why exactly does he need help with? Not picking on you, because I have seen other posters have similar sentiments.

[fent]

Why is there this idea that Zorn needs help? The man has been around football his whole life. Why exactly does he need help with? Not picking on you, because I have seen other posters have similar sentiments.

many think that Zorn needs help because he's never been a coordinator before, so we should have an offensive-minded coach in the event that Zorn doesn't pan out.

[WarEagle]

OT: What D.C. sports radio should I be live streaming now? TripleX is playing Mike and Mike until 10AM eastern. That's unfortunate and something a small market would do.

[AliBabba]

I just heard that Spags left with no offer ... here's a link (http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/football/giants/blog/2008/02/spags_departed_late_last_night.html)

Steve Spagnuolo left Redskins owner Daniel Snyder's home late on Wednesday night without a contract offer, according to two people familiar with the discussions, and it appears he is leaning towards returning to the Giants for at least another season as defensive coordinator.

[AliBabba]

Steve Spagnuolo spent Wednesday interviewing with Redskins owner Daniel Snyder, but the Giants defensive coordinator has yet to be won over.

A person familiar with Spagnuolo's thinking told Newsday it was 50-50 he would take the Redskins head coaching job.

LINK (http://www.courant.com/sports/football/hc-nflup0207.artfeb07,0,7624230.story)

[JsMaViSd]

LINK (http://www.courant.com/sports/football/hc-nflup0207.artfeb07,0,7624230.story)

uggghh

just sign!!!

[CNYSkinFan]

this is bad news because a thread on ES is claiming to track Danny's plane to Phoenix....

Which either means he is going to bring in grimm for an interview (unlikely) or it is the dreaded Fassel move...ugh

[shally]

who has the cold feet in this dance ???

[AliBabba]

who has the cold feet in this dance ???
Everything I have read points to Spags being "undecided"

[CNYSkinFan]

i guess i should link to that thread in Es...yuck

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=232757&page=79&pp=15

[shally]

Everything I have read points to Spags being "undecided"

then he should stay in new york.. if he isnt totally excited about being the HC of the redskins, we dont want him

[CNYSkinFan]

now they are saying Redskins one was sent to pick up Spags family and is coming back from Tetersboro, NJ


My head hurts

[NCskinsfanatic]

uggghh

just sign!!!

About how I thought it would play out. He's a Defensive guy, Blache has a lot of power as the new DC and Spags would probably have to be ok with that. Along with Vinny and Dan running the GM portion of the franchise, a brand new O to install, massive contract restructuring, etc.

If he came I could only see him doing so for the $, I mean the G-mens D should still be respectable next season and therer sould be a lot of less restrictive places to coach in 09. The way the FO structure is set up IMO we're only going to attract money hungry coaches, Yes man coaches or desperate head coaches. I dont know that spags falls specifically in any one of those categories but fassel sure as heck does.

[AliBabba]

then he should stay in new york.. if he isnt totally excited about being the HC of the redskins, we dont want him
don't we have enough impulsive personalities in upper-mgmt already (the hiring process, not included)? If he is really thinking it over and discussing with his family I am totally cool with it.

[shally]

now they are saying Redskins one was sent to pick up Spags family and is coming back from Tetersboro, NJ


My head hurts

i will say this much, snyder does know how to keep a lid on things...

[shally]

don't we have enough impulsive personalities in upper-mgmt already (the hiring process, not included)? If he is really thinking it over and discussing with his family I am totally cool with it.

yes and no.. this is such an all consuming job that if you are not 100 % into it, you should walk away

yes, it is correct to decide carefully, but in the end you have to be all in or all out

[CNYSkinFan]

or I guess the plane could have been just to drop spags off too...

Now Washington times is reporting that the decision could be extended into next week:

http://video1.washingtontimes.com/redskins/

[AliBabba]

yes and no.. this is such an all consuming job that if you are not 100 % into it, you should walk away

yes, it is correct to decide carefully, but in the end you have to be all in or all out
now i am hearing they (Redskins One) is stopped in NJ/Philly area waiting to pick up Spags' wife and bring her here ... nothing with DS is EVER short on drama, ever

[shally]

About how I thought it would play out. He's a Defensive guy, Blache has a lot of power as the new DC and Spags would probably have to be ok with that. Along with Vinny and Dan running the GM portion of the franchise, a brand new O to install, massive contract restructuring, etc.

If he came I could only see him doing so for the $, I mean the G-mens D should still be respectable next season and therer sould be a lot of less restrictive places to coach in 09. The way the FO structure is set up IMO we're only going to attract money hungry coaches, Yes man coaches or desperate head coaches. I dont know that spags falls specifically in any one of those categories but fassel sure as heck does.

ask GW how many offers he got to be HC after the wheels fell off his defense ?

or I guess the plane could have been just to drop spags off too...

Now Washington times is reporting that the decision could be extended into next week:

http://video1.washingtontimes.com/redskins/

if it extends into next week, cross fassel off the list.. no way that will fly

[CNYSkinFan]

Seriously at this point Danny and Vinny should do a Heisman like ceremony and invite Mooch, Spags, Fassel, & Meeks to Redskins Park on monday. Tom Cruise can be master of ceremonies and Katie Holmes can be the letter model. They can read off who the next HC will be and get reaction shots of all those who are disappointed. Imagine the publicity!!!!

[NCskinsfanatic]

ask GW how many offers he got to be HC after the wheels fell off his defense ?


True shally and in essense that's exactly why I'm not 100% for Spags, I think the current set up of our team works with a guy like Mooch or Fassel, someone thats been there and done that you know. Not saying they're better coaches but it's being rumoured on ES that Spags is concerned about having so little power in the decision making process. I really think the way they've set up the FO and coordinators they've backed themselves into a corner in regards to whos willing to work under these restrictions.

[shally]

Seriously at this point Danny and Vinny should do a Heisman like ceremony and invite Mooch, Spags, Fassel, & Meeks to Redskins Park on monday. Tom Cruise can be master of ceremonies and Katie Holmes can be the letter model. They can read off who the next HC will be and get reaction shots of all those who are disappointed. Imagine the publicity!!!!

or have a call in show where you can text message your choice..for spags
1-900- COLDFEET
for fassel 1-900-LEFTOVER
for mooch 1-900-GLADHAND
for meeks 1-900-NEGATIVESPACE
for none of the above 1-900-FSNYDER
remember usual charges apply...

i have had enough.. wake me up when this is over...

[AliBabba]

Still waiting on final confirmation on some things, but I heard that Steve Spagnuolo left town late last night - around 1 am - without a contract. One source said he was not offered the job and is talking to the Giants about a new deal there after guiding that defense to a stunning defeat of New England.

Again, I do not have this confirmed yet, but sources who have been spot-on through this entire process are telling me this.

Indications are pointing to Jim Fassel at this point but Dan Snyder has not begun telling the candidates of any decision yet. They all - Ron Meeks, Fassel, Mooch (if you want to throw him in there) - know nothing as of this moment, but that could be changing. And just because Spagnuolo left without a deal - if what I am hearing is true - it would not preclude Snyder from still striking one with him.

But if you held me down right now and made he guess - again, I'm guessing here and not reporting - I'd say Fassel right now.


LINK (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/02/am_update.html)

[CNYSkinFan]

LINK (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/02/am_update.html)
bring on the torches and the pitchforks boys

[AliBabba]

LINK (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/02/am_update.html)
Def looking like Fassel from what JLC and various other sources are saying...

[AliBabba]

bring on the torches and the pitchforks boys
I got mine sharpened last week in anticipation of this

[WRSK1NS]

True shally and in essense that's exactly why I'm not 100% for Spags, I think the current set up of our team works with a guy like Mooch or Fassel, someone thats been there and done that you know. Not saying they're better coaches but it's being rumoured on ES that Spags is concerned about having so little power in the decision making process. I really think the way they've set up the FO and coordinators they've backed themselves into a corner in regards to whos willing to work under these restrictions.


I think a new Head Coach needs some restrictions, they will already have tons more responsibility than they normally had as a coordinator. I am not saying that Vinny should be making the personell decisions but that is one less thing that he as a coach has to worry about. I guess what I am trying to say is a new HC should be eased into the job and then given a little more power once they prove themselves.... again just my opinion

[NCskinsfanatic]

LINK (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/02/am_update.html)

I think he's probably right...just get on with it already fassel's probably the only guy willing to take the job with the current set up , hope I'm wrong but if Fassel is the guy it could be Norv part Duex....mediocrity at its finest.

[shally]

bring on the torches and the pitchforks boys

or as bette davis once said, "fasten your seatbelts, boys, it's going to be a bumpy ride..."

[AliBabba]

I'm gonna go bash my head against a wall for about 45 minutes and sign back on then, later gents

[smoak]

i guess i should link to that thread in Es...yuck

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=232757&page=79&pp=15

You're cheating one us. :D

[coffdogg]

they are who we thought they were.....Awesome Dennis Green,thanks

[PennSkinsFan]

Time to line up behind Jim Fassel. Everything points to Fassel, period. I have faced that fact and am ready to support Fassel.

[smoak]

I think he's probably right...just get on with it already fassel's probably the only guy willing to take the job with the current set up , hope I'm wrong but if Fassel is the guy it could be Norv part Duex....mediocrity at its finest.

Nobody could every repeat that miserable period of my life.

[dj_stouty]

http://www.seattleyachtclub.org/newsletter/images/public-newsletter-images/100907pics/3-ring-circus_sm.jpg

[smoak]

Time to line up behind Jim Fassel. Everything points to Fassel, period. I have faced that fact and am ready to support Fassel.

Yeah, I'll support him alright... With both cheeks and my best morning breath. :moon2:

:D

[WarEagle]

now i am hearing they (Redskins One) is stopped in NJ/Philly area waiting to pick up Spags' wife and bring her here ... nothing with DS is EVER short on drama, ever

Where did you hear this?

[NCskinsfanatic]

Nobody could every repeat that miserable period of my life.

Yeah Norv did rob me of my early to mid 20's, Fassel cant do that but he could make the rest of my 30's miserable if he's as consistently mediocre as Norval.

[akhhorus]

a bit early, but...

*takes a long belt from the flask*

Anyone else?

[Keino]

Time to line up behind Jim Fassel. Everything points to Fassel, period. I have faced that fact and am ready to support Fassel.

I thought it was Williams?

LMAO. Sorry Mark, I have to raz ya a bit.

[CNYSkinFan]

You're cheating one us. :D
hr was down for an hour...i went lookign for news...

seriously i was just looking...I swear...

No she is not as hot as you I swear...

Sure she has a bigger poster size but not all guys like that....

[dj_stouty]

a bit early, but...

*takes a long belt from the flask*

Anyone else?

*raises hand*

And I don't care what's inside the flask. Hopefully a liquid form of arsenic.

[NCskinsfanatic]

a bit early, but...

*takes a long belt from the flask*

Anyone else?

Pass the flask akh, pass the flask....

[SkinsfaninNJ]

Spags lovers can take heart in this. When we interviewed Zorn, he returned to Seattle with no deal in place and all indications where he was returning to Seattle for good. We all know how that worked out.

Snyder may have said I want you to come here with a clear concsious. Go and get your offer from the Giants and then make your decision.

[fent]

Pass the flask akh, pass the flask....

i'm in line, too. this is retarded. i just lost the joy of my day.

[fent]

Spags lovers can take heart in this. When we interviewed Zorn, he returned to Seattle with no deal in place and all indications where he was returning to Seattle for good. We all know how that worked out.

Snyder may have said I want you to come here with a clear concsious. Go and get your offer from the Giants and then make your decision.

zorn was also more or less told that he wouldn't be the OC after Holmgren left. there's still a chance, but it looks slim right now, especially if RS1 is headed to Arizona.

[dj_stouty]

Snyder may have said I want you to come here with a clear concsious. Go and get your offer from the Giants and then make your decision.

I hope so. Reports did come out that said the Giants were preparing a counter offer. Spags probably believes he owes the Giants the opportunity to counter, out of respect. If so, I dig this Spags guy a lot more.

[CNYSkinFan]

i'm in line, too. this is retarded. i just lost the joy of my day.
I don't drink and I am in line

[smoak]

What is Snyder's Plan #??? There are conflicting reports on ES and one of us should look it up rathher than chase our tails.

[dj_stouty]

I don't drink and I am in line

LMAO...i was literally 2 seconds away from typing; "Hey Dustin...now is a better time than any to take up drinking".

[smoak]

a bit early, but...

*takes a long belt from the flask*

Anyone else?

The fact that I would ask shows the depths of my despair, but...

May I?

[akhhorus]

Hands out the full bottle to everyone.

And I would like to point out a salient point:

If Snyder went through these charades with Mooch, Spags, Meeks, etc just to get the fanbase quelled on the idea of Fassell, he royally ***CENSORED BY SPENCE***ed it up, now Fassell-if he is the coach-will have to get this team to at least a couple division titles or we'll be complaining that he didn't hire x,y,z.

[NCskinsfanatic]

I don't drink and I am in line

LOL...cue the simpsons pic...j/k Dustin ;)

[akhhorus]

The fact that I would ask shows the depths of my despair, but...

May I?

Knock yourself out man. I have a flask of absinthe somewhere....

[ChiefPowhatan17]

Knock yourself out man. I have a flask of absinthe somewhere....
Sweet, I haven't drank in a month, but this could be the way, thanks. I will try to not cut my ear off.

[smoak]

Knock yourself out man. I have a flask of absinthe somewhere....

You were always one of may favorites... (gets spoon, sugar, and candle)

[SkinsfaninNJ]

Hands out the full bottle to everyone.

And I would like to point out a salient point:

If Snyder went through these charades with Mooch, Spags, Meeks, etc just to get the fanbase quelled on the idea of Fassell, he royally ***CENSORED BY SPENCE***ed it up, now Fassell-if he is the coach-will have to get this team to at least a couple division titles or we'll be complaining that he didn't hire x,y,z.

Totally agree with this. Snyder is really putting Fassel behind the 8 ball if Fassel gets the job.

[shally]

a bit early, but...

*takes a long belt from the flask*

Anyone else?

this is not worthy of blanton's.... pass that Old Crow

[fent]

What is Snyder's Plan #??? There are conflicting reports on ES and one of us should look it up rathher than chase our tails.

wow...just looked at the ES thread and WOW...could it be anymore convoluted conjecture on their part. i can't tell if the plane went to Philly, NY/NJ, Arizona, if there were 1 or 2 planes, or if Danny's actually riding a helicopter. i think i'll ignore anything coming from ES right now, especially since it appears that Danny is keeping his tailnumber blocked to make it even more difficult to know if it's him or not.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

The Giants board is saying ESPN radio here in NY is saying Spags agreed to a new 3 yr deal with the Giants. I have no way of confirming the radio report as I am not near a radio.

Anyone in NY area online that can confirm?

http://boards.giants.com/forums/thread/710531.aspx

[shally]

Totally agree with this. Snyder is really putting Fassel behind the 8 ball if Fassel gets the job.

the silent prejudice of low expectations....

the worst part is that fassel is going to know that from the start and will do things like playing his starters all preseason to go 4-0.(like one infamous predecessor) because the pressure will be excruciating if the team starts slowly..

ugly ugly ugly

[fent]

The Giants board is saying ESPN radio here in NY is saying Spags agreed to a new 3 yr deal with the Giants. I have no way of confirming the radio report as I am not near a radio.

Anyone in NY area online that can confirm?

http://boards.giants.com/forums/thread/710531.aspx

if that's true, i'm drinking REAL heavy tonight...and tomorrow...this was a crap-tastic almost birthday present...

[shally]

wow...just looked at the ES thread and WOW...could it be anymore convoluted conjecture on their part. i can't tell if the plane went to Philly, NY/NJ, Arizona, if there were 1 or 2 planes, or if Danny's actually riding a helicopter. i think i'll ignore anything coming from ES right now, especially since it appears that Danny is keeping his tailnumber blocked to make it even more difficult to know if it's him or not.

yeh, i would keep my tailend blocked right about now if i were snyder also..:moon2:

not exactly our franchise's proudest moment

[CNYSkinFan]

wow...just looked at the ES thread and WOW...could it be anymore convoluted conjecture on their part. i can't tell if the plane went to Philly, NY/NJ, Arizona, if there were 1 or 2 planes, or if Danny's actually riding a helicopter. i think i'll ignore anything coming from ES right now, especially since it appears that Danny is keeping his tailnumber blocked to make it even more difficult to know if it's him or not.
I personally think Xenu is transporting him in a spaceship that looks like a DC-8.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Xenu_space_plane.jpg

turn left vinny...no your other left

[akhhorus]

if that's true, i'm drinking REAL heavy tonight...and tomorrow...this was a crap-tastic almost birthday present...

Im right there with you buddy.


*sarcastic slow clapping* way to ***CENSORED BY SPENCE*** this one up Snyder. Brava.

[dj_stouty]

Anyone know if the clothes rod in a closet can hold 218 pounds?

[fent]

JLC confirms


Spags To Stay With the Giants
Steve Spagnuolo will remain with the New York Giants and is not a candidate for the Redskins job according to a source with knowledge of the situation. A formal announcement is likely to come later today, with a new three-year deal from the Giants on its way, too.

Spagnuolo returned to the New York area this morning. Jim Fassel was seen by many as the frontrunner to get this job, with Spagnuolo emerging late. It would appear to be headed that way now.

edit: Linky (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/)

[WarEagle]

There has to be a point where a 35 hour job interview becomes creepy. Especially when you're kept in the back house.

[WarEagle]

Anyone know if the clothes rod in a closet can hold 218 pounds?

lol!!! A classic post, that.

I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue!

[shally]

second choice then, go with meeks

[SkinsfaninNJ]

JLC confirms




edit: Linky (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/)

I actually saw reports (no link yet) that Fassel has agreed to stay on as special consultant to the local pop warner team and Mooch is staying on as Deon's chauffer. I don't know where we go from there.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

There has to be a point where a 35 hour job interview becomes creepy. Especially when you're kept in the back house.

LOL. "How many different ways can I say I promise not to run a cover-2."

[HAWGZHEAD]

I don't un........... I.......... :doh: Forget it.

[coffdogg]

if that's true, i'm drinking REAL heavy tonight...and tomorrow...this was a crap-tastic almost birthday present...Redskins Radio is confirming that Spags is out and staying in NY

[shally]

I actually saw reports (no link yet) that Fassel has agreed to stay on as special consultant to the local pop warner team and Mooch is staying on as Deon's chauffer. I don't know where we go from there.

meeks

he would be immensely popular with the players
the fan base would give him some time to grow into the position
he produced for indy while losing players every year

[Biggie]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Way to $#@% this up, Snyder.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

We'll find out as details come out over the next few days, but I truly hope he wasn't offered the job and then refused. There was a time (and I like to think it still exists) that almost no one would turn down the HC of the Washington Redskins.

If he did turn it down, the perception of our franchise is worse than I thought.

[redskin_rich]

I actually saw reports (no link yet) that Fassel has agreed to stay on as special consultant to the local pop warner team and Mooch is staying on as Deon's chauffer. I don't know where we go from there.
I'm throwing my hat in the ring! I have no football coaching experience but I have volunteered to coach O-line and D-line on a local little league football team this Fall. I have also coached girls soccer.

[shally]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Way to $#@% this up, Snyder.

somebody deliver a horse's head to jenkins bedroom tomorrow morning

[wide_awake]

Spagnuolo was worth getting excited about...

I feel extreme disappointment (again).

[bergiemoore]

Looks like Fassel as per JLC:

One of owner Dan Snyder's planes is en route to Phoenix, according to flight tracking software, which may or may not be related to the fact that Jim Fassel lives in Scottsdale.

[RoanokeSkin]

Wow... where do we go from here. I think its time we start pushing for player-coach London Fletcher.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

So uh...is there ANYBODY that wants to coach this team (and has not worked the night shift at the local McDonalds for the last 2 years)?

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Looks like Fassel as per JLC:

So, after interviewing anybody and everybody associated with the game of football in the last 10 years, it seems like Fassel was the only guy desperate anough to coach this team...


Good lord.



(I'm still hoping for Meeks. Or Santa Claus)

[Keino]

Here's hoping for Meeks, or Santa.

[JsMaViSd]

Maybe its Russ Grimm?

or i hope lol

[CNYSkinFan]

Dear god...please let Russ Grimm get on the plane in Phoenix...please...I beg you