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warpaint
02-08-2008, 09:32 AM
maybe this has already been discussed if so moderators can just delete this. I am not saying for or against Russ Grimm being our head coach, but with his back ground one would have thought that we would at least have brought him in for an interview. at the very least this would have shown our appreciation for him helping us get the super bowl rings and maybe helped him get more money just like some of the others did who came in for an interview. from all I have read Grimm is a very smart man , so was wondering if maybe he did something here before he left for Pittsburgh or could it be that maybe at one time he used some snuff, thinking maybe Danny didn't want him at the guest house spitting the snuff . with Grimm being nominated for the hall of fame and with his years as a redskins one would think he was as qualified for an interview as the rest of the people brought in. would like for others here to share with me any thoughts they may have as to why not an interview.

CNYSkinFan
02-08-2008, 09:35 AM
we are retarded


really that is my entire answer

nothing further

AliBabba
02-08-2008, 09:39 AM
we are retarded


really that is my entire answer

nothing further
beat me to it

SkinsfaninNJ
02-08-2008, 09:42 AM
The only thing that makes sense is he wouldn't be a strongly considered candidate, and Snyder wouldn't want to get our hopes up just to be let down again.

Of course, he's already done that a few times this month so what's one more.

wewantdallas
02-08-2008, 10:02 AM
This has been my main question from Day 1. I just don't get it. Is there something wrong with the guy? I don't want a coach based solely out of nostalgia, but ... come on... why not even an INTERVIEW? The fans would've gone nuts to have Grimm here. It would've been another Snyder marketing coup and maintained ties to Gibbs. I have to assume there's some issue that they have with him and his abilities to be a HC. Or maybe HE wants no part of the organization. Who knows....to me, this is the biggest mystery of the whole search.

redskin_rich
02-08-2008, 10:05 AM
Snyder is probably afraid of Grimm and for good reason. Russ might pound the little man into the ground like a tent spike if he pissed him off.

dj_stouty
02-08-2008, 10:10 AM
This has been my main question from Day 1. I just don't get it. Is there something wrong with the guy?

The same could be said of a lot of other talented coordinators around the league. Instead of spending 50+ hours a piece on Jim and Mooch, why not interview the Grimms of the NFL? They did a good job identifying Meeks, Ryan and Spags...why not dig a little deeper?

shally
02-08-2008, 10:28 AM
we are retarded


really that is my entire answer

nothing further

but nobody else has either

Snyder is probably afraid of Grimm and for good reason. Russ might pound the little man into the ground like a tent spike if he pissed him off.

now, you might be onto something

but it is strange that nobody has even hinted at interviewing grimm

skinsfan36
02-08-2008, 10:33 AM
doesnt make sense to me either

smoak
02-08-2008, 10:33 AM
Snyder is probably afraid of Grimm and for good reason. Russ might pound the little man into the ground like a tent spike if he pissed him off.

If fear is the reason, I hope Danny never goes out in the "general public" anywhere except in NY, Philly, and dallass... I'm sure they love him there. :rolleyes:

Farmer Ted
02-08-2008, 10:35 AM
Well, didn't Snyder pretty much fire Grimm once already? It's perfectly possible that there's bad blood between the two, and that as a result Russ is not even remotely a candidate. For all I know, Russ may not even want to come back here. I'm not convinced he's a great HC candidate myself, anyway. If he'd been a former Giant or Eagle great, I'm pretty sure that no one would be clamoring for him to be the next head coach in DC.

dj_stouty
02-08-2008, 10:38 AM
If fear is the reason, I hope Danny never goes out in the "general public" anywhere except in NY, Philly, and dallass... I'm sure they love him there. :rolleyes:


Actually...I'm pretty sure the fanbases of Dallas, Philly and New York actually DO love the guy. They are watching him single handedly pull this franchise into the gutter. That means more NFCE wins for them over the next 35 or so years...

techskinsfan
02-08-2008, 10:39 AM
with all the time we have spent I cant believe we havent at least talked to him...but who knows maybe we have...and maybe since snyder fired him grimm thinks screw danny boy

CNYSkinFan
02-08-2008, 10:40 AM
but nobody else has either



now, you might be onto something

but it is strange that nobody has even hinted at interviewing grimm
nobody else has a month long opening at HC to fill either

RedskinsDave
02-08-2008, 10:45 AM
He can't hire Grimm. Grimm would be a fan favorite and make it impossible for Snyderrato to push around and fire if they fail, as expected.

Shubacca
02-08-2008, 10:57 AM
Snyder is probably afraid of Grimm and for good reason. Russ might pound the little man into the ground like a tent spike if he pissed him off.

Thats my feeling entirely. He can't browbeat a HOF player and a Super Bowl winning coach.
Coach Gibbs would get along with just about everybody. Even though he's in the Hall and has won Super Bowls, his ego remains in check.
Perfect hire for Snyder. He got credibility, and a man whose ego wouldn't get in the way of his own.
Grimm doesn't seem egotistical, but he does seem like he wouldn't take a lot of crap either. He's not the yesman that Snyder inevitably needs to keep control of the team.
I'd love to get all the coaches and assistants that worked under Snyder to do a compilation tell-all on what its like to work for the third century Napolean.
Kudos to him for his handling of the Sean Taylor tragedy, but lets be honest, Gibbs was the rudder on that ship.
All I continually hear about is how bad that Snyder treats his people.
Where theres smoke, theres fire.

Redskin006
02-08-2008, 11:05 AM
I don't know if that has already been brought up, but maybe the plane that reportedly came out to Arizona is Snyder coming to interview Grimm? Just a thought. Maybe Snyder is finally going to give the guy a chance.

redskin_rich
02-08-2008, 11:08 AM
Well, didn't Snyder pretty much fire Grimm once already? It's perfectly possible that there's bad blood between the two, and that as a result Russ is not even remotely a candidate. For all I know, Russ may not even want to come back here. I'm not convinced he's a great HC candidate myself, anyway. If he'd been a former Giant or Eagle great, I'm pretty sure that no one would be clamoring for him to be the next head coach in DC.
It was Marty that let Grimm go, not Snyder. And Russ wasn't fired, he was told by Marty that he would have to re-interview for his job and Russ said "see ya!"

James F. Quinn
02-08-2008, 11:15 AM
maybe this has already been discussed if so moderators can just delete this. I am not saying for or against Russ Grimm being our head coach, but with his back ground one would have thought that we would at least have brought him in for an interview. at the very least this would have shown our appreciation for him helping us get the super bowl rings and maybe helped him get more money just like some of the others did who came in for an interview. from all I have read Grimm is a very smart man , so was wondering if maybe he did something here before he left for Pittsburgh or could it be that maybe at one time he used some snuff, thinking maybe Danny didn't want him at the guest house spitting the snuff . with Grimm being nominated for the hall of fame and with his years as a redskins one would think he was as qualified for an interview as the rest of the people brought in. would like for others here to share with me any thoughts they may have as to why not an interview.


He was passed over at Pitts, in favor of new blood. It may be that those who know him best simply do not think he has it in him to be a head coach. I THINK that he has had a few interviews in the past with other teams but nothing came of them.

It is possible that he simply does not interview well. Some people do not. It has nothing to do with their ability to do the job, but it is a hindrance to getting it.

As for the Redskins, It is possible that he was contacted and he declined the honor of interviewing. There are some who think that every candidate should be willing to take any HC job, no matter how bad the situation.

But a smart man might balk at the Redskins, thinking that it is institutionally stacked against success. Did Russ look at Washington and think that he could succeed where Joe Gibbs failed?

Just my opinion.

syphy
02-08-2008, 11:18 AM
nobody else has a month long opening at HC to fill either

Atlanta did.

SkinsfaninNJ
02-08-2008, 11:21 AM
but nobody else has either



now, you might be onto something

but it is strange that nobody has even hinted at interviewing grimm

Grimm was interviewed and got close in Pitt. Its not unheard of for an assistant to get interviews one year and not the next. Seems to have happened to Rivera and Singletary. I wonder if Spags is paying attention.

CNYSkinFan
02-08-2008, 11:22 AM
Atlanta did.
And Atlanta moved quicker then us.....And they had a coach quit on them midseason after his first year and their top player locked up and lost for the foreseeable future.

Yet someone wanted that job and no one wants ours.......

skinsfan36
02-08-2008, 11:22 AM
maybe now the answer to this question is we have zorn who is wco and grimm whos smashmouth

Farmer Ted
02-08-2008, 11:23 AM
It was Marty that let Grimm go, not Snyder. And Russ wasn't fired, he was told by Marty that he would have to re-interview for his job and Russ said "see ya!"

Even so, that doesn't lead me to think he'd be a serious candidate for the Skins HC. I'm sure that the Skins have let go many assistant coaches in the past, and that none of them were later re-hired as the HC. It just seems like a fans' pipe-dream to me.

warpaint
02-08-2008, 11:23 AM
just a little something i read about grimm recently
He was probably one of the smartest players I ever played with," said Boures, who also played for the Steelers in the 1980s. "That's saying a lot because I played with a lot of great guys. He was probably the smartest player as far as recognizing film work and the whole bit."

Said Sherrill: "He was very intelligent as a player and very aware because he's played all those positions. The game came easy to him. He moved to offensive line and it was easy for him."

His former teammates and coaches believe his training as a quarterback and linebacker in high school probably helped develop that awareness. When the Redskins once were down to two healthy quarterbacks, Gibbs was asked who his emergency No. 3 would be and he pointed to Grimm.

"Everything he ever tried, he was successful at," said John Bacha, his football coach at Southmoreland, where they named the field after Grimm last year. "He was my best athlete and he was a good quarterback. He was good on rollouts, he'd get on the corner with that 210 pounds and had the option to run or throw."

redskin_rich
02-08-2008, 11:25 AM
Even so, that doesn't lead me to think he'd be a serious candidate for the Skins HC. I'm sure that the Skins have let go many assistant coaches in the past, and that none of them were later re-hired as the HC. It just seems like a fans' pipe-dream to me.

Supposedly, Snyder tried to hire Ray Rhodes twice.

warpaint
02-08-2008, 11:32 AM
was just wondering how uneasy snyder would have been if grimm had made the h.of. this year and was there with monk and green for the press conference?

sinskin
02-08-2008, 11:34 AM
I don't know if that has already been brought up, but maybe the plane that reportedly came out to Arizona is Snyder coming to interview Grimm? Just a thought. Maybe Snyder is finally going to give the guy a chance.


Tell him what hes won Bob....

ChiefPowhatan17
02-08-2008, 02:11 PM
Grimm would solve all of Danny's woes. If he hired Grimm, people would be surprised, the fanbase would be happy, and he would get someone who is hungry to win as a HC. It would be the best move he could make right now. Since the media already think that he is stupid for having such long interviews, he needs to make the right move or else he will be blasted by everyone. Russ could basically save Danny's reputation. Hopefully the long interviews were just a way for Danny to pick the brain of our enemy (Spags). This will be helpful in the future when we continue to beat the giants each year.

Farmer Ted
02-08-2008, 02:49 PM
Grimm would solve all of Danny's woes. If he hired Grimm, people would be surprised, the fanbase would be happy, and he would get someone who is hungry to win as a HC. It would be the best move he could make right now. Since the media already think that he is stupid for having such long interviews, he needs to make the right move or else he will be blasted by everyone. Russ could basically save Danny's reputation. Hopefully the long interviews were just a way for Danny to pick the brain of our enemy (Spags). This will be helpful in the future when we continue to beat the giants each year.

This is the sentiment I don't understand at all. If his name was Jumbo Elliott, would you feel the same way? Why is the best thing in the world for the Skins right now to hire a one year assistant coach from Arizona? Lord, I hope we can do better than that. That's a move that the 49'ers make (like hiring the OC from Detroit). I guess if we're going the assistant route, I'd rather look at the teams that are consistently in the top half of the standings, not some bottom-feeder like Arizona (or Detroit, Oakland or San Fran).

bergiemoore
02-08-2008, 03:13 PM
This is the sentiment I don't understand at all. If his name was Jumbo Elliott, would you feel the same way? Why is the best thing in the world for the Skins right now to hire a one year assistant coach from Arizona? Lord, I hope we can do better than that. That's a move that the 49'ers make (like hiring the OC from Detroit). I guess if we're going the assistant route, I'd rather look at the teams that are consistently in the top half of the standings, not some bottom-feeder like Arizona (or Detroit, Oakland or San Fran).

You do realize that Grimm has been coaching in the NFL since 1992, include 8 years with the Redskins, right? He has held the title of Assistant Head Coach, first with the Steelers and now with Arizona, since 2004.

warpaint
02-08-2008, 03:23 PM
You do realize that Grimm has been coaching in the NFL since 1992, include 8 years with the Redskins, right? He has held the title of Assistant Head Coach, first with the Steelers and now with Arizona, since 2004.


After hanging up his player's cleats, Grimm returned to the Redskins as a tight end coach (from 1992 through 1996, and offensive line coach from 1997 through 2000, during which he was instrumental in the development of tackles Chris Samuels and Jon Jansen. After his coaching stint with the Redskins, Grimm joined the Pittsburgh Steelers as offensive line coach in September of 2000. In 2004 he was promoted to Assistant Head Coach/Offensive Line.

In 2004, after the Chicago Bears fired Dick Jauron, Bears management considered Grimm as a top candidate for the job. The job eventually went to then St. Louis Rams defensive coordinator Lovie Smith.

In 2005, Grimm added another Super Bowl ring (totalling 4) to his resumé as part of the Pittsburgh Steelers' coaching staff (Offensive Line Coach).

On January 5, 2007, Bill Cowher resigned as head coach of the Steelers. In the press conference that followed, Steeler's President Art Rooney II announced Russ Grimm as one of the candidates for the job. On January 15th, 2007, he was named as a finalist for the job along with Ron Rivera and Mike Tomlin. The Steelers would end up hiring Tomlin as their head coach. Shortly thereafter, Grimm was hired by the Arizona Cardinals to serve as their assistant head coach/offensive line coach. In Arizona, he will serve under head coach Ken Whisenhunt who Grimm worked with under Bill Cowher in Pittsburgh.

bergiemoore
02-08-2008, 03:24 PM
After hanging up his player's cleats, Grimm returned to the Redskins as a tight end coach (from 1992 through 1996, and offensive line coach from 1997 through 2000, during which he was instrumental in the development of tackles Chris Samuels and Jon Jansen. After his coaching stint with the Redskins, Grimm joined the Pittsburgh Steelers as offensive line coach in September of 2000. In 2004 he was promoted to Assistant Head Coach/Offensive Line.

In 2004, after the Chicago Bears fired Dick Jauron, Bears management considered Grimm as a top candidate for the job. The job eventually went to then St. Louis Rams defensive coordinator Lovie Smith.

In 2005, Grimm added another Super Bowl ring (totalling 4) to his resumé as part of the Pittsburgh Steelers' coaching staff (Offensive Line Coach).

On January 5, 2007, Bill Cowher resigned as head coach of the Steelers. In the press conference that followed, Steeler's President Art Rooney II announced Russ Grimm as one of the candidates for the job. On January 15th, 2007, he was named as a finalist for the job along with Ron Rivera and Mike Tomlin. The Steelers would end up hiring Tomlin as their head coach. Shortly thereafter, Grimm was hired by the Arizona Cardinals to serve as their assistant head coach/offensive line coach. In Arizona, he will serve under head coach Ken Whisenhunt who Grimm worked with under Bill Cowher in Pittsburgh.

All Hail Wiki!

Farmer Ted
02-08-2008, 03:25 PM
You do realize that Grimm has been coaching in the NFL since 1992, include 8 years with the Redskins, right? He has held the title of Assistant Head Coach, first with the Steelers and now with Arizona, since 2004.

So? And he was O-line coach in Pittsburgh (not the assistant head coach-edit: call it what you want, but it amounts to the same thing). There are plenty of guys out there who've been an assistant for 10 years or more. I just don't know what makes Russ so qualified for this job. Arizona had the 18th ranked offense (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamoff.php) last year. Why would we want to hire the architect of that offense (and does he even call the plays, or does Whisenhunt do it)? And we just hired a coordinator who's going to run a west coast offense. Is this really something that's going to work with Grimm? I seriously doubt it. I'd like to see Russ get a HC job sometime, but I don't really see him as a savior of this organization. He'd probably fail, and be fired in 2-3 years, which would be a huge bummer to witness.

warpaint
02-08-2008, 03:27 PM
All Hail Wiki!

never thought of pittsburgh as being a bottom feeder as farmer ted does lol

bigcmr
02-08-2008, 03:29 PM
maybe now the answer to this question is we have zorn who is wco and grimm whos smashmouth

Thats it no way Grimm would make it here. Trying to run an offence thats not his.

Why Grimm was never interviewed in the first place tells me that for some reason Snyder and Vinny are obsessed with the west cost offence.

Farmer Ted
02-08-2008, 03:33 PM
never thought of pittsburgh as being a bottom feeder as farmer ted does lol

Uh, I'm pretty sure I said Arizona.

OCSkinzFan
02-08-2008, 03:48 PM
We may have a "Grimm" season next year whether he's here or not.


Okay, I'll stop now....

redskin_rich
02-08-2008, 03:54 PM
So? And he was O-line coach in Pittsburgh (not the assistant head coach-edit: call it what you want, but it amounts to the same thing). There are plenty of guys out there who've been an assistant for 10 years or more. I just don't know what makes Russ so qualified for this job. Arizona had the 18th ranked offense (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamoff.php) last year. Why would we want to hire the architect of that offense (and does he even call the plays, or does Whisenhunt do it)? And we just hired a coordinator who's going to run a west coast offense. Is this really something that's going to work with Grimm? I seriously doubt it. I'd like to see Russ get a HC job sometime, but I don't really see him as a savior of this organization. He'd probably fail, and be fired in 2-3 years, which would be a huge bummer to witness.
Grimm and Whisenhunt have only been in 'zona one year but they did almost beat us in our house, if not for a missed FG. Grimm is not a mastermind playcaller, he is just a good coach and his units have reflected that. I think he has gained a lot of respect everywhere he has been. Why he isn't considered a hot candidate anymore is beyond me but in this copycat league, where everyone keeps recycling retreads, I don't have a lot of faith in a lot of the decision makers.

Anyhow, this may not be the best time for Grimm here. More and more, I'm feeling our next head coach is going to be a puppet.

Farmer Ted
02-08-2008, 04:01 PM
Anyhow, this may not be the best time for Grimm here. More and more, I'm feeling our next head coach is going to be a puppet.

I'm pretty sure you're right about that.

OCSkinzFan
02-08-2008, 04:07 PM
Anyhow, this may not be the best time for Grimm here. More and more, I'm feeling our next head coach is going to be a puppet.

Ditto: Link (http://www.hailredskins.com/vbforum/showthread.php?p=1081428#post1081428)

warpaint
02-08-2008, 04:46 PM
Grimm and Whisenhunt have only been in 'zona one year but they did almost beat us in our house, if not for a missed FG. Grimm is not a mastermind playcaller, he is just a good coach and his units have reflected that. I think he has gained a lot of respect everywhere he has been. Why he isn't considered a hot candidate anymore is beyond me but in this copycat league, where everyone keeps recycling retreads, I don't have a lot of faith in a lot of the decision makers.

Anyhow, this may not be the best time for Grimm here. More and more, I'm feeling our next head coach is going to be a puppet.

thanks redskin_rich after you made the point that our next coach is going to be a puppet i at last understand why so many well qualified people wont/wouldnt take the job or even be offered the job , thing is most real men wouldnt keep their noses buried up the owners rear end and be yes men.

syphy
02-08-2008, 04:51 PM
Anyhow, this may not be the best time for Grimm here. More and more, I'm feeling our next head coach is going to be a puppet.


Hell if that's the criteria, I officially announce my candidacy for the Head Coaching position, and to be fair to Mr Snyder I will only ask for 1.1 million/yr with incentives (like a $200k bonus for even winning a game) for 2 years.

GWBlitzST
02-08-2008, 05:29 PM
Why didn't any other teams that needed a head coach this offseason or last offseason for that matter? Just because the guy played for the Skins doesn't mean he should get an automatic interview. Maybe he's not a good candidate, anyone ever think of that? Plus he'd be above Bugel in the hierarchy and that would just be weird.

warpaint
02-08-2008, 06:36 PM
Why didn't any other teams that needed a head coach this offseason or last offseason for that matter? Just because the guy played for the Skins doesn't mean he should get an automatic interview. Maybe he's not a good candidate, anyone ever think of that? Plus he'd be above Bugel in the hierarchy and that would just be weird.

a player who was with the redskins for over 10 years,a player who led the team to 4 super bowl appearences with 3 of those being wins, a coach of the offense line who won the super bowl in 2005 (pittsburgh) person with 4 super bowl rings , in my mind this isnt your regular redskin player , dont think that bugel would have a problem with grimm being there.

ChiefPowhatan17
02-08-2008, 06:51 PM
Maybe nobody wants this job, because they know it's a one year deal, till Danny goes to get Cowher for 2009. All I know is everything looks really bad for next year right now. Danny blew it up anyway.

silverspring
02-08-2008, 07:25 PM
Maybe nobody wants this job, because they know it's a one year deal, till Danny goes to get Cowher for 2009. All I know is everything looks really bad for next year right now. Danny blew it up anyway.

I really agree with this theory. I think snyder wanted cowher all along. It explains why he really wanted gibbs to stay another year. When gibbs wouldn't stay and he realized cowher wasn't going to happen i think snyder wanted to make GW the man and tried to make it work but decided he just couldn't work with him. Then he pretty much was trying to find another solution but none of his options compared to his original man-love for cowher. At this point i think he is just looking for a stop gap until cowher.

After it became clear cowher was out and gw was out I really can't understand why he hasn't interviewed grimm.

hogs86
02-08-2008, 08:20 PM
I will be nice about this. Because i like Grimm and he is my favorite hog. Lets just say he likes his beer maybe more then football.

Farmer Ted
02-08-2008, 08:42 PM
a player who was with the redskins for over 10 years,a player who led the team to 4 super bowl appearences with 3 of those being wins, a coach of the offense line who won the super bowl in 2005 (pittsburgh) person with 4 super bowl rings , in my mind this isnt your regular redskin player , dont think that bugel would have a problem with grimm being there.

Speaking of Bugel, he was a coach during 4 super bowls, and 3 wins. How did his career as a head coach pan out? He was far more qualified to be a head coach than Grimm. I'd be ok with Grimm in a few years, if Arizona had a top 10 offense during that time. But he hasn't proven anything yet, as far as I can tell.

redskin_rich
02-08-2008, 09:26 PM
Speaking of Bugel, he was a coach during 4 super bowls, and 3 wins. How did his career as a head coach pan out? He was far more qualified to be a head coach than Grimm. I'd be ok with Grimm in a few years, if Arizona had a top 10 offense during that time. But he hasn't proven anything yet, as far as I can tell.
First off, Bugel was not here for all of our Super Bowls. He left in '89 to coach Phoenix, even after Gibbs strongly advised him not to work for Bidwell. Jim Hanifan coached our line into the 90's.
Bugel coached in Phoenix and Oakland and did poorly but those are two bad places to launch a career.
That was Bugel though and that has nothing to do with Grimm. I don't see how you can say Grimm hasn't proved anything yet. There are head coaches in the league right now that have done less. There are plenty of candidates that have done less.

WarEagle
02-08-2008, 09:35 PM
I will be nice about this. Because i like Grimm and he is my favorite hog. Lets just say he likes his beer maybe more then football.

Makes me like him even more! lol.

Does Dan get these guys in the guest house and hook them up to an E-Meter?

redskin_rich
02-08-2008, 09:50 PM
I will be nice about this. Because i like Grimm and he is my favorite hog. Lets just say he likes his beer maybe more then football.

That is just silly. Can you point out any instance that Grimm failed to do his job because of what he did on his personal time?

hogs86
02-08-2008, 10:06 PM
That is just silly. Can you point out any instance that Grimm failed to do his job because of what he did on his personal time?


I do not know for fact if he drinks anymore maybe, maybe not. I hope not. But i do know when he was with the redskins coaching staff he did more then his share of drinking. It is well know between players he self medicated himself for years.

redskin_rich
02-08-2008, 10:11 PM
I do not know for fact if he drinks anymore maybe, maybe not.I hpe not. But i do know when he was with the redskins coaching staff he did more then his share of drinking. It is well know between players he self medicated himself for yeares.

So what, lots of people drink. Has it ever interfered with his professional or personal life? I can name some coaches that have had DWI's but Grimm isn't one of them.

csquared
02-08-2008, 10:12 PM
I do not know for fact if he drinks anymore maybe, maybe not. I hope not. But i do know when he was with the redskins coaching staff he did more then his share of drinking. It is well know between players he self medicated himself for years.

Sure man sure. Are you self medicating tonight?

hogs86
02-08-2008, 10:16 PM
I am not going into Russ Grimm personal life. But i have been told by other players he has had some real issues from drinking. I will leave it at that.

hogs86
02-08-2008, 10:17 PM
Sure man sure. Are you self medicating tonight?


No are you?

redskin_rich
02-08-2008, 10:26 PM
I am not going into Russ Grimm personal life. But i have been told by other players he has had some real issues from drinking. I will leave it at that.

I don't doubt it but I can't see where his professional career has been hurt by it, if it's true. Perhaps he has had a problem and overcome it or maybe he just likes to party hard sometimes. He is human, like all of us. Without any evidence of it hurting his career, you can't say he likes his beer more than football.

BTW, I have shared a few beverages with him.

hogs86
02-08-2008, 10:35 PM
I don't doubt it but I can't see where his professional career has been hurt by it, if it's true. Perhaps he has had a problem and overcome it or maybe he just likes to party hard sometimes. He is human, like all of us. Without any evidence of it hurting his career, you can't say he likes his beer more than football.

BTW, I have shared a few beverages with him.

Like i said Russ is my favorite HOG. And i wish him well. If you have seen what i have seen at shows etc. I would say half of the players are heavy drinkers or take large amounts of pain killers (Vicodin) just to get over the pain. The last time i saw Earl Campbell he could not even walk. Football has cripple so many of these guys i really feel for them. Most should be on disability.

RedskinRyan
02-08-2008, 10:36 PM
Perhaps Snyder wants to get away from Gibbs style football?

WarEagle
02-08-2008, 10:40 PM
Bear Bryant was a notorious boozehound. Wouldn't surprise me if lots of coaches kept a bottle in their office.

redskin_rich
02-08-2008, 10:45 PM
Like i said Russ is my favorite HOG. And i wish him well. If you have seen what i have seen at shows etc. I would say half of the players are heavy drinkers or take large amounts of pain killers (Vicodin) just to get over the pain. The last time i saw Earl Campbell he cold not even walk. Football has cripple so many of these guys i really feel for them. Most should be on disability.
While I have no idea what kinds of aches and pains Grimm has, I can tell you that he was still strong as an ox when I met him. I arm-wrestled him and nearly got my arm ripped off, lol.

'Nuff said on this. There are plenty of stories to tell on plenty of people but the bottom line is, if they have carried on in their professional careers without any noted problems, then there is nothing to talk about on that front.

redskin_rich
02-08-2008, 10:50 PM
Bear Bryant was a notorious boozehound. Wouldn't surprise me if lots of coaches kept a bottle in their office.

If I knew what brand of whiskey he [General Grant] drinks,
I would send a barrel or so to some other generals.
--Abraham Lincoln

warpaint
02-09-2008, 08:06 AM
If I knew what brand of whiskey he [General Grant] drinks,
I would send a barrel or so to some other generals.
--Abraham Lincoln

redskin_rich since you seem pro grimm like i am , and i see you have been here for a long time with many posts,how about answer this question. if dan snyder has been a lifetime redskins fan like he said when he bought the team,how could you at least not interview one of the people that you would have loved way back then,and one of the people that helped make the redskins one of the most valued franchises in all of the sports world. point here to me is not whether grimm should be the coach rather he is as qualified if not more so than many of the others brought in for an interview. as has been suggested snyder is just retarded and more of a $$$$ fan than a redskins fan