D-Line Coach Hired, John Palermo

[redskin_rich]

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/

Has never coached in the NFL...

[JasonCampbell]

Sounds like a real winner

Palermo was most recently retired after spending 2007 season with Tenn. Tech.

[VegasSkinsFan]

Welcome Coach Palermo, lets get that DE we need. GO SKINS !!!!!

[whitskins]

Tenn. Tech? I read that he coached at the U until last year.

[shally]

maybe he is a solid coach ? but ZERO nfl experience

but where do they come up with these guys ???

[redskin_rich]

maybe he is a solid coach ? but ZERO nfl experience

but where do they come up with these guys ???

Apparently, Vinny knows this guy. I guess from Notre Dame?

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Apparently, Vinny knows this guy. I guess from Notre Dame?

Or he met him at his last Chuck E. Cheese's party?

[joethefan]

no no no maybe he met him at a Petting Zoo..... in between the Goats and the Pigs....LOL

[smoak]

no no no maybe he met him at a Petting Zoo..... in between the Goats and the Pigs....LOL

I thought maybe Vinne used to "dance" for the guy at his other job...

So,eon e please tell me the bright side to the most horrific offseason since I used to sit around thinking, "Well this HAS to be the year that Norv gets the axe".

[LATrueRedskin]

What an obscure choice. Vinny is really going to be on the hook if we fail in the next few years.

[AliBabba]

I thought maybe Vinne used to "dance" for the guy at his other job...

So,eon e please tell me the bright side to the most horrific offseason since I used to sit around thinking, "Well this HAS to be the year that Norv gets the axe".
I'm calling bugout!

Smoak, come on man, you don't have enough crap to deal with you are gonna let this get to you? Snyderrato will find plenty for you. Trust me, as you have already hinted at, it is going to get worse before it gets better. This promises to be a very tumultuous offseason. If we let every single thing get to us, such as hiring an inexperienced position coach (e.c. who cares?), we'll all be completely burned out by August and the season.

I'm of the mindset that we should just step back, accept that these two clowns are gonna do what they want and just ... que sera sera. One thing that is positive about the continuity (read: complete upheaval) this offseason is the accountability it assigns to Vinny. He's calling shots, it's fun to call him puppet and lap dog, but he's the one "out in front" on these deals. If the *cbs* hits the fan, there is nowhere for him to hide.

Snyder as well, it can be argued how good/inept a job was done during this coach search, but one thing that cannot be argued is DS' want of Fassel. He wanted him 4 yrs ago and he's wanted him again for the last 4 weeks. Yeah he may have been willing to hire some others, Mora/Spags, but now that they are not options its back to his boy, The Fossil. The fans reaction (i bet firejimfassel.com triples its membership b/t monday and tuesday) as well as the media's will make it obvious to Snyderatto that they are alone out on the limb on this move. This isn't the popular hall of fame coach returning after all ...

I'm hoping for the best, for all I hate about Fassel, he's been to the Superbowl and he has a career winning pct, they really could do worse - I guess. However, if things don't go great in '08 and '09 ...


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[syphy]

I am very underwhelmed.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

Let's see. Recently retired. Last job was coaching at a college that didn't even know they had a football team. Oh, and strong ties to Vinny.

Sounds like a solid hire.

[chrisbcbu]

I knew i wasnt going crazy. I thought we already hired a DL coach?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3220038
Continuing to add to a staff that still doesn't have a head coach, the Washington Redskins have reached an agreement in principle to hire veteran NFL assistant Larry Brooks as their defensive line coach.



Did this guy not get the job after all?

[skinsfan36]

best part of the article

That fills out the defensive staff, which has been meeting with scouts and preparing for the draft in meetings this week led by new coordinator Greg Blache. The Redskins are expected to address defensive needs primarily in the draft, with defensive line a priority (needs at both DE and a 3-technique).

[shally]

I knew i wasnt going crazy. I thought we already hired a DL coach?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3220038




Did this guy not get the job after all?

apparently not...

[OCSkinzFan]

In 27 years at the collegiate level, Palermo has coached on 17 bowl teams, including Notre Dame's 1988 national championship squad and three Wisconsin teams that won the Big Ten and the Rose Bowl (1993, 1998 and 1999).

Palermo was the head coach at Austin Peay State in 1990. Prior to that, he was the defensive line coach at Notre Dame in 1988 and 1989. The Fighting Irish won the 1988 national championship, and his star lineman, Chris Zorich was a consensus All-American and Lombardi Award winner in 1990. Prior to that, he had stints at Minnesota (1984-87), Appalachian State (1983), Memphis State (1980-82), Austin Peay (1979) and North Carolina State (1977-78).

Link (http://hurricanesports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/palermo_john00.html)

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

These days anybody can be a Redskin, apparently.

[OCSkinzFan]

Here's a link from Tenn Tech. He seems to have coached at a whole lotta places. Makes me wonder why he bounced around so much?

http://www.ttusports.com (http://www.ttusports.com/index.php?option=com_akostaff&Itemid=1&func=fullview&staffid=589&c=1)

COACHING EXPERIENCE
1974-76: Bainbridge (Ga.) High School
Defensive line
1979: Austin Peay
Defensive line
1980-82: Memphis State
Defensive line
1983-84: Appalachian State
Assistant head coach
Defensive line, linebackers
1984-87: University of Minnesota
Defensive line
198-89: Notre Dame
Defensive line
1990: Austin Peay
Head coach
1991-05: University of Wisconsin Assistant head coach
Defensive line
2006: University of Miami
Defensive line
2007: Tennessee Tech University Defensive coordinator/linebackers

[OCSkinzFan]

These days anybody can be a Redskin, apparently.

He has a 14-4 record in college bowls as a coach. That's not just an anybody.

[shally]

He has a 14-4 record in college bowls as a coach. That's not just an anybody.
but ZERO experience in the nfl

maybe it doesnt matter for the DL ? but as we have found out, some college coaches cant make the transition..

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

He has a 14-4 record in college bowls as a coach. That's not just an anybody.
How did that college record work for Spurrier? A semi-retired guy that has never coached in the NFL being a coach of the WASHINGTON REDSKINS? Sorry, I don't like what we've become.

[OCSkinzFan]

but ZERO experience in the nfl

maybe it doesnt matter for the DL ? but as we have found out, some college coaches cant make the transition..

It's probably a lot different for a position coach. A lot of NFL coaches have coached in college too. I don't mind the hire.

[chrisbcbu]

Here's a link from Tenn Tech. He seems to have coached at a whole lotta places. Makes me wonder why he bounced around so much?

http://www.ttusports.com (http://www.ttusports.com/index.php?option=com_akostaff&Itemid=1&func=fullview&staffid=589&c=1)

2006: University of Miami
Defensive line


Hmm. Does this mean we are possibly going after Calais Campbell? That is the year Campbell exploded onto the scene isnt it?

[OCSkinzFan]

How did that college record work for Spurrier? A semi-retired guy that has never coached in the NFL being a coach of the WASHINGTON REDSKINS? Sorry, I don't like what we've become.

Blache coached at several college programs.
Notre Dame in 1968-75.
Tulane 1976-80.
Notre Dame 1981-83.
Southern University 1986
Kansas 1987.

Joe Jackson Gibbs Who you may or may not have heard of:
San Diego State 1964-66.
Florida State 1967-68.
Southern California 1969-70
Arkansas 1971-1972.

How did that college record work for Gibbs?

[OCSkinzFan]

Hmm. Does this mean we are possibly going after Calais Campbell? That is the year Campbell exploded onto the scene isnt it?

Yea he did coah Calais at the U. In '06 he had 84 tackles and 10.5 sacks.

But if we drafted him over say.... a defensive back I'm sure people on this board would be upset!



:kidding:

[AliBabba]

Hmm. Does this mean we are possibly going after Calais Campbell? That is the year Campbell exploded onto the scene isnt it?
so now he's making personnel decisions ... not a very steep learning curve I guess

[skinsfan36]

if that means we draft campbell and he works him into being a beast then ill be happy.he apparently coach montogmery if he was dline coach until 05 at wisconsin.

[LuvSkins17]

I don't see anything about it on redskins.com so it's not confirmed yet in my book....

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Blache coached at several college programs.
Notre Dame in 1968-75.
Tulane 1976-80.
Notre Dame 1981-83.
Southern University 1986
Kansas 1987.

Joe Jackson Gibbs Who you may or may not have heard of:
San Diego State 1964-66.
Florida State 1967-68.
Southern California 1969-70
Arkansas 1971-1972.

How did that college record work for Gibbs?
And did Gibbs have NFL experience prior to signing with the Skins? Does Palermo? How old was Gibbs back then? How old is Palermo?

[shally]

if that means we draft campbell and he works him into being a beast then ill be happy.he apparently coach montogmery if he was dline coach until 05 at wisconsin.

montgomery was at minnesota

he did apparently coach erasmus james, however...

[bigcmr]

If Blanch approves then its a good hire.

[skinsfan36]

montgomery was at minnesota

he did apparently coach erasmus james, however...

good call my bad

[smoak]

I'm calling bugout!

Smoak, come on man, you don't have enough crap to deal with you are gonna let this get to you? Snyderrato will find plenty for you. Trust me, as you have already hinted at, it is going to get worse before it gets better. This promises to be a very tumultuous offseason. If we let every single thing get to us, such as hiring an inexperienced position coach (e.c. who cares?), we'll all be completely burned out by August and the season.

I'm of the mindset that we should just step back, accept that these two clowns are gonna do what they want and just ... que sera sera. One thing that is positive about the continuity (read: complete upheaval) this offseason is the accountability it assigns to Vinny. He's calling shots, it's fun to call him puppet and lap dog, but he's the one "out in front" on these deals. If the *cbs* hits the fan, there is nowhere for him to hide.

Snyder as well, it can be argued how good/inept a job was done during this coach search, but one thing that cannot be argued is DS' want of Fassel. He wanted him 4 yrs ago and he's wanted him again for the last 4 weeks. Yeah he may have been willing to hire some others, Mora/Spags, but now that they are not options its back to his boy, The Fossil. The fans reaction (i bet firejimfassel.com triples its membership b/t monday and tuesday) as well as the media's will make it obvious to Snyderatto that they are alone out on the limb on this move. This isn't the popular hall of fame coach returning after all ...

I'm hoping for the best, for all I hate about Fassel, he's been to the Superbowl and he has a career winning pct, they really could do worse - I guess. However, if things don't go great in '08 and '09 ...


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Just like Zorn, I am NOT bothered by the hire... I am bothered by the idiots who are ruining the reputation of a once proud franchise.

[OCSkinzFan]

Apparently John Palermo coached at Notre Dame in 1988 and 1989 when Cerrato served as the program's recruiting coordinator.

Link Wash. Times, Elfin (http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080208/SPORTS01/979365510/1005/SPORTS&template=printart)

[OCSkinzFan]

It's interesting to note that if you go to the Redskins website
(http://www.redskins.com/team/coachingstaff.jsp)and look at the list of coaches, Zorn is listed as HC and Blanche is DC, but Palermo is not listed. In fact no D line coach is listed at all.

Maybe Zorn has to approve the new hires from here on out. Hopefully.

Of course then again, Lazor is still listed as QB coach, so it may not mean anything.

[saviour]

And did Gibbs have NFL experience prior to signing with the Skins? Does Palermo? How old was Gibbs back then? How old is Palermo?


Gibbs was part of the San Diego Chargers coaching staff before he came to the skins.

[bergiemoore]

I think it speaks volumes about the Redskin fan base that a position coach hiring gets this much scrutiny, and inspires this much vitriol.

The only thing I know about this guy is that Blache had to have signed off on it in order for this to happen. Blache insisted that he have autonomy over his staff and input in personnel decisions when he agreed to take the promotion to DC. If it's good enough for Blache, then I couldn't care less.

How this is further proof of Snyderrato's incompetence is beyond me. We're not talking about a guy that is expected to do anything but teach players how to play. There isn't a whole lot of difference in the DL position between college and the pros when it comes to technique.

[bergiemoore]

Palermo Bio (http://hurricanesports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/palermo_john00.html) from the U's website.

[Battle Cat]

I think this may be the least of our issues before this is over. I know Blache is now d coordinator but I think he will still have a large input on the d line seeing he knows these guys better than anyone.

[OCSkinzFan]

And did Gibbs have NFL experience prior to signing with the Skins? Does Palermo? How old was Gibbs back then? How old is Palermo?

Oh, so your point is that the Chargers shouldn't have hired Gibbs, not US. See now you're making sence...

[Skins7ny]

What disturbs me is that there was at least one report that Larry Brooks was Greg Blache's right-hand man in Chicago, and he was a shoo-in for the job. Then the next thing we hear is that the Skins are considering this guy who goes way back with Vinny from Notre Dame, and then he gets hired. Makes you wonder if Blache is being permitted to hire his own DL coach, or does Vinny trump him. My only hesitation on this is that I think Blache is also a Notre Dame guy, so that might explain it.

[shally]

What disturbs me is that there was at least one report that Larry Brooks was Greg Blache's right-hand man in Chicago, and he was a shoo-in for the job. Then the next thing we hear is that the Skins are considering this guy who goes way back with Vinny from Notre Dame, and then he gets hired. Makes you wonder if Blache is being permitted to hire his own DL coach, or does Vinny trump him. My only hesitation on this is that I think Blache is also a Notre Dame guy, so that might explain it.


i dont think it was that.. i just think that brooks, for whatever reason, was unimpressive in his interview..

zorn is not the issue here because he has delegated the defense to blache..
something about brooks didnt impress blache.. that is what i would believe

[skinsfan36]

i dont think it was that.. i just think that brooks, for whatever reason, was unimpressive in his interview..

zorn is not the issue here because he has delegated the defense to blache..
something about brooks didnt impress blache.. that is what i would believe

agreed blanche will hire whoever he wants for defense it seems ,lets just hope he gets us a new defensive end and a depth dt

[shally]

agreed blanche will hire whoever he wants for defense it seems ,lets just hope he gets us a new defensive end and a depth dt

i get the feeling that blache is going to surprise a lot of people and is playing possum.. what benefit would it get him if he came out and repudiated GW's schemes in public ? none.. but there will be changes for certain

i just hope that blache places more emphasis on speed and athleticism for the DL

[colkurtz]

i get the feeling that blache is going to surprise a lot of people and is playing possum.. what benefit would it get him if he came out and repudiated GW's schemes in public ? none.. but there will be changes for certain

i just hope that blache places more emphasis on speed and athleticism for the DL

Agreed. Blache now has to live by the defense he builds. It will NOT be the same as GW; and he will coach different.

Personally I'm giving Zorn and Blache some slack.

We just had four years of the most over-qualified and expensive coaching staff in the history of the NFL. Yet we were still under .500 as a team. We were out-coached on a regular basis in games. Let's see how these guys do in the draft, pre-season and for a year before we start to crucify them for their choices.