Muhammed released....

[csquared]

I think he is worth a look. Check his price. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3252098

[BigCountry]

Maybe under the prior regime but if you look at the receivers Seattle has, Muhammad is the exact opposite of what we should be looking for. Wether Vinny has the sense to bring in players that fit the system is another story.

[skinfanjon]

Maybe under the prior regime but if you look at the receivers Seattle has, Muhammad is the exact opposite of what we should be looking for. Wether Vinny has the sense to bring in players that fit the system is another story.

Agreed. The sad news here is Alex Brwn was given an extension, so much for hoping he'd be a Skin in 09.

[csquared]

Maybe under the prior regime but if you look at the receivers Seattle has, Muhammad is the exact opposite of what we should be looking for. Wether Vinny has the sense to bring in players that fit the system is another story.

Seattle's receivers havent exactly blown it up the last few years either. He is 6'2 bigger than any threat we have. If he isnt looking for much id sign him quick. Seems to have great hands.

[PyroGenic]

Maybe under the prior regime but if you look at the receivers Seattle has, Muhammad is the exact opposite of what we should be looking for. Wether Vinny has the sense to bring in players that fit the system is another story.

Really? Last regime was a bunch of short "burners" running around the field. We never once had a tall receiver that was worth mentioning. And now for the past month, everybody is talking about how we need bigger and taller receivers for the WCO to work around here.

[RedskinRyan]

Really? Last regime was a bunch of short "burners" running around the field. We never once had a tall receiver that was worth mentioning. And now for the past month, everybody is talking about how we need bigger and taller receivers for the WCO to work around here.

That talk has been going on around here for awhiiiiiiile.

[shally]

he has been productive for a long time.. i just wonder how much he has left inthe tank.. for certain, he would be a 1 year fix.. but it would be great to find someone who can produce for us for 7 years..

if we go with MM, then it means the end for mccardell, caldwell, thrash... all 3 of them gone because we have enough age on the receiver corps

[shally]

I think he is worth a look. Check his price. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3252098

what the signing of brown tells me is that maybe the bears have re assessed how good anderson is.. anderson was appointed starter before the last year and wasnt the same player he was the year before.. i think the bears feel they were lucky no one took brown off their hands last year.. since anderson is still working on his rookie contract, he will be cheap to keep as a reserve, and if either ogonleye or brown get hurt..

they overpaid for walker...

[BigCountry]

Seattle's receivers havent exactly blown it up the last few years either. He is 6'2 bigger than any threat we have. If he isnt looking for much id sign him quick. Seems to have great hands.

There wasn't a superstar in their ranks really but they were all solid players. What they had in common was that they were quick and good after the catch. Muhammad is neither of those.

[BigCountry]

Really? Last regime was a bunch of short "burners" running around the field. We never once had a tall receiver that was worth mentioning. And now for the past month, everybody is talking about how we need bigger and taller receivers for the WCO to work around here.

Muhammad would have fit better in the prior offense. Once again, look at the receivers Zorn had in Seattle. Muhammed has non of their traits.

[csquared]

There wasn't a superstar in their ranks really but they were all solid players. What they had in common was that they were quick and good after the catch. Muhammad is neither of those.

We dont need quick and good after the catch. We have that in Moss and ARE. Muhammed adds a dimension we havent had in a long time. A big target.

[BigCountry]

We dont need quick and good after the catch. We have that in Moss and ARE. Muhammed adds a dimension we havent had in a long time. A big target.

That's true, but we have to think in terms of what can be better utilized in the offense we're running.

[PyroGenic]

That talk has been going on around here for awhiiiiiiile.

in regards to the WCO? I know everybody's been saying that, but it wasn't necessarily crucial to success like people are making it seem to be now.

[PyroGenic]

Muhammad would have fit better in the prior offense. Once again, look at the receivers Zorn had in Seattle. Muhammed has non of their traits.

well yeah, he definitely doesn't have the agility those guys have but he's still a big target.

Don't confuse that for me wanting to sign the guy. I'm tired of getting over the hill guys that don't bring anything to the table long-term, or even potentially in the short term.

[skinfanjon]

That's true, but we have to think in terms of what can be better utilized in the offense we're running.

What we really need is a WR with some size AND athletic ability. Guys who have both those traits usually are true #1 WR's. We have Moss, lol.

I don't think there is a place for Mushin here, and I don't really want him anyway. He is clearly deteriorating. This draft is loaded with WR prospects, I say we throw our dart at one of them and hope we get a winner. It doesn't have to be in the first round, but sometime on the first day.

[give_portis_the_rock]

he has been productive for a long time.. i just wonder how much he has left inthe tank.. for certain, he would be a 1 year fix.. but it would be great to find someone who can produce for us for 7 years..

if we go with MM, then it means the end for mccardell, caldwell, thrash... all 3 of them gone because we have enough age on the receiver corps

I actually look forward to that trio. Old guys who have experience and smarts -- great for Jason's development. Look at Cris Carter's impact on Culpepper, or how about Jerry Rice's impact on Steve Young.

[BigCountry]

What we really need is a WR with some size AND athletic ability. Guys who have both those traits usually are true #1 WR's. We have Moss, lol.

I don't think there is a place for Mushin here, and I don't really want him anyway. He is clearly deteriorating. This draft is loaded with WR prospects, I say we throw our dart at one of them and hope we get a winner. It doesn't have to be in the first round, but sometime on the first day.

Torry Holt, Reggie Wayne, Marvin Harrison, Isaac Bruce, (in his day) Rod Smith, Steve Smith, Joey Galloway, Joe Horn. Plus, when you have a strong running game and we very well may, you can have three solid receivers who make catches when it counts and can make big plays. Teams have been successful without the revered "big receiver". In fact, it has been teams with solid all around receiving corps that have won the Superbowl. You can argue for Plex with the Giants, but in both the divisional round and the NFC title game, they had big contributions from other wideouts, the Pats had the vilified "big receiver" and lost. We don't need a "number one receiver" and I hate that term, we just need someone solid who knows how to get open and completes the trio. If we add D.J Hackett to Moss and Randle El, we have the makings of a great receiving corps. There's no reason to pay a "number one receiver" all that money when Moss and El hardly have modest contracts and we just paid Cooley. "Number one receiver"=overrated and not needed.

[shally]

I actually look forward to that trio. Old guys who have experience and smarts -- great for Jason's development. Look at Cris Carter's impact on Culpepper, or how about Jerry Rice's impact on Steve Young.

sorry, but moss cant stay healthy.. thrash cant stay healthy. ARE had trouble staying healthy.. you think we can count on mccardell for 16 games ?

we need some younger receivers and some bigger bodies. for what it is worth MM shows up year in and year out.. plaxico played a whole season hurt, but was a factor in nearly every game..i still think we need guys who can go over the middle and take a lick.. i like hackett, but he has been hurt a lot

i am just worried about an entire WR corps being nicked all year...

[skinsfan36]

hes to old resign caldwell and get a new big under 31 reciever

[joethefan]

In looking at the NFL Network's take on recievers, It looks like the draft is stacked throughout the 3rd-4th round. That kid from James Hardy from Indiana Univ. is a big reciever and looks good. if we don't get one in FA go after one of those kids.

[RoanokeSkin]

Muhammad would have fit better in the prior offense. Once again, look at the receivers Zorn had in Seattle. Muhammed has non of their traits.

Zorn didn't have any receivers in Seattle. He wasn't calling the plays or running his system. He was coaching quarterbacks in somebody elses system. How do we know what traits he is looking for?

[skinfanjon]

Torry Holt, Reggie Wayne, Marvin Harrison, Isaac Bruce, (in his day) Rod Smith, Steve Smith, Joey Galloway, Joe Horn. Plus, when you have a strong running game and we very well may, you can have three solid receivers who make catches when it counts and can make big plays. Teams have been successful without the revered "big receiver". In fact, it has been teams with solid all around receiving corps that have won the Superbowl. You can argue for Plex with the Giants, but in both the divisional round and the NFC title game, they had big contributions from other wideouts, the Pats had the vilified "big receiver" and lost. We don't need a "number one receiver" and I hate that term, we just need someone solid who knows how to get open and completes the trio. If we add D.J Hackett to Moss and Randle El, we have the makings of a great receiving corps. There's no reason to pay a "number one receiver" all that money when Moss and El hardly have modest contracts and we just paid Cooley. "Number one receiver"=overrated and not needed.

All the guys you listed have what I consider "size" aside from Steve Smith, Harrison, and Galloway, and Steve and Galloway are both very tough and play bigger than they are. Its really not about how tall a receiver is to me. Moss and Randel El are short and they both play as small as they are.

I know where you stand on the issue of a "big receiver" and I actually agree with you. Possesion receivers come in all shapes and sizes, unfortunately, neither Moss nor ARE fit the bill. I agree, Hackett would add quite a bit to this team. I'd still like to see us spend one of our first three picks on a receiver, though.

[BigCountry]

All the guys you listed have what I consider "size" aside from Steve Smith, Harrison, and Galloway, and Steve and Galloway are both very tough and play bigger than they are. Its really not about how tall a receiver is to me. Moss and Randel El are short and they both play as small as they are.

I know where you stand on the issue of a "big receiver" and I actually agree with you. Possesion receivers come in all shapes and sizes, unfortunately, neither Moss nor ARE fit the bill. I agree, Hackett would add quite a bit to this team. I'd still like to see us spend one of our first three picks on a receiver, though.

I don't think any of the receivers I listed are over 6'0, which according to many on this board is inadequate.

[BigCountry]

Zorn didn't have any receivers in Seattle. He wasn't calling the plays or running his system. He was coaching quarterbacks in somebody elses system. How do we know what traits he is looking for?

If the head coach has an offensive background, his staff will run a similar system. Zorn didn't call plays but that's the system he comes from and he's not going to come here and run something completely different.

[skinfanjon]

I don't think any of the receivers I listed are over 6'0, which according to many on this board is inadequate.

Joe Horn is listed at 6'1 and the rest are 6'0 and shorter, but size is a relative term. I just want someone who blends speed and athleticsm with a body strong enough to take a pounding. Everyone you listed meets those qualifications for me except for Harrison, and he's just a freak.

[HAWGZHEAD]

What we really need is a WR with some size AND athletic ability. Guys who have both those traits usually are true #1 WR's. We have Moss, lol.

Anquan Boldin

[skinfan43]

Anquan Boldin
That's been my choice through all the discussions...man, he'd look perfect wearing a different shade of red. We'll have to see what the Cards do with Fitz first.

[skinfanjon]

Anquan Boldin

I'd be beside myself if we could get him without giving up the farm, but I'm not counting on it. I'm not sure if there's a receiver in the league that would be a better fit here.

[PyroGenic]

I'd be beside myself if we could get him without giving up the farm, but I'm not counting on it. I'm not sure if there's a receiver in the league that would be a better fit here.

wow... that is pretty nice...

as long as that line up stays healthy (fingers crossed), we'd probably have the best potential (hate that word) tandem of receivers in the league... assuming we don't give up moss to acquire boldin... which could happen.

[JsMaViSd]

wow... that is pretty nice...

as long as that line up stays healthy (fingers crossed), we'd probably have the best potential (hate that word) tandem of receivers in the league... assuming we don't give up moss to acquire boldin... which could happen.

i would not have a problem if this did happen

[Moe]

The Panthers GM, Hurney, mentioned Moose (along with Crumpler) as two guys that they will definitely be talking to. Moose has, at a minimum, business ties to Charlotte, so barring a disproportionate offer elsewhere it seems that he might return to the Panthers. Personally, I'd prefer the Skins look elsewhere for some younger blood to fill such a role.