Clinton Portis Restructures [Archive] - hailRedskins.com Fan Board

AliBabba

03-03-2008, 09:20 PM

I wonder if this was why we have been so quiet in FA
with the fact we are restructuring so many contracts I wish we hadn't designated Blowyd a post June 1 cut and taken the whole hit this yr and been done with it. $8m is not a ton when u have 3 first day picks but if that turns into $10+ I will start to get nervous about some bak-busting trade we're cooking up

greatest2

03-03-2008, 09:53 PM

if they continue with this quiet free spending, why restructure guys anyway. isn't 3.5 enough for your rookies?

With this extra space i expect a 5 year deal for who ever we sign...

shally

03-03-2008, 10:18 PM

makes little sense to do this now unless we have someone or a couple of FA's in mind

something should happen soon, i think

JoeJacksonTaylor28

03-03-2008, 11:21 PM

makes little sense to do this now unless we have someone or a couple of FA's in mind

something should happen soon, i think
... I hope

hogs86

03-03-2008, 11:35 PM

Now we have the money for Bryant Johnson. :)

tyrone_rush_fan

03-03-2008, 11:45 PM

if they continue with this quiet free spending, why restructure guys anyway. isn't 3.5 enough for your rookies?

Infact, we'll have an additional 2.4 million for the rookies, post June 1st.

colkurtz

03-04-2008, 12:02 AM

skinsfan36

03-04-2008, 12:25 AM

we are defineatly getting ready to do something finally

GeneralDisorder

03-04-2008, 03:41 AM

From 20million over to 8 million under...?

Our Capologist is the dog's bollocks. And no messing...

:)

Can we put him in charge of the Tailgate Weekend...?

BRAVEONAWARPATH

03-04-2008, 07:32 AM

I suspect we are going after Chad Johnson.

CNYSkinFan

03-04-2008, 07:43 AM

We are 8 million under right now, enough to sign 2 quality FA. Also we will get another 2.5 million June 1 from the Lloyd release, which will be enough to do our rookies.

I think we make a play for Hackett when he comes to town...Possibly a safety and a LBer out there too.

firehawk157

03-04-2008, 07:56 AM

Any names for the S/LB you could think of???

Hr fan

03-04-2008, 08:05 AM

Wait for it. The prices will drop and all the mad money will be sent to over-priced players by other teams.

We'll get a few good FA, but you're going to have a wait for the bargains. Something later this week is my guess.

This is the NE scenario, but with Moss, Bruschi and a high 1swt they probably won't be players this year.

Skinz4lyfe

03-04-2008, 08:13 AM

Any names for the S/LB you could think of???

I hear Warrick Holdman is available.........j/k! How about Roosevelt Colvin or even bring back Lamar Marshall? Both could be solid contributors and provide good depth behind Rocky.

coffdogg

03-04-2008, 09:18 AM

I suspect we are going after Chad Johnson.I agree.I think everything has quieted down about CJ and they are going to give our #1 and another pick(maybe next year)since the positions we will be looking for aren't star studded at 21.

skinsfan36

03-04-2008, 11:13 AM

I hear Warrick Holdman is available.........j/k! How about Roosevelt Colvin or even bring back Lamar Marshall? Both could be solid contributors and provide good depth behind Rocky.

i would say bring marshall back but i think he tore his acl

smoak

03-04-2008, 11:21 AM

Wait for it. The prices will drop and all the mad money will be sent to over-priced players by other teams.

We'll get a few good FA, but you're going to have a wait for the bargains. Something later this week is my guess.

Agree, but not unlike Retail, the bargains are going to be drastically "picked over". It'll be weird styles and sizes out there...

But that said, I like the strategy. I am SICK of rewarding players who have never even put on a Redskins jersey.

Red Bear

03-04-2008, 12:00 PM

i would say bring marshall back but i think he tore his acl

i cant recall what his injury was exactly, but he did tear something up. which is exactly why the redskins said they got rid of him. that they thought he was breaking down and prone to injury.

JsMaViSd

03-04-2008, 12:31 PM

good for clinton to take the hit for the team

firehawk157

03-04-2008, 12:38 PM

good for clinton to take the hit for the team
He didn't take any hit. The difference for him was getting a check now, in March, or getting one in September. The only reason he wouldn't do it is if he wanted to be stubborn for the mere sake of it.

shally

03-04-2008, 12:41 PM

He didn't take any hit. The difference for him was getting a check now, in March, or getting one in September. The only reason he wouldn't do it is if he wanted to be stubborn for the mere sake of it.

or make it more likely that he would be traded or somehow gotten rid of...

Redskin4Life

03-04-2008, 12:43 PM

good for clinton to take the hit for the team
I'm sure Clinton didn't take a hit in the pocket for this restructure. It was probably more of the usual (the salary upfront to be spread out throughout the contract length) but also an extension in years to make the numbers work.

What I'm worried about is what do we need all of this cap space for if not for Hackett AND Johnson (maybe Colvin, Utecht/Troupe and Demps as backups)? But to me, these guys should come at fair deals (no more than 2M in cap space each). If we signed ALL of them, I can see the need for that much space but I don't think we're getting them all.... so what do we need the space for?

firehawk157

03-04-2008, 12:47 PM

I'm sure Clinton didn't take a hit in the pocket for this restructure. It was probably more of the usual (the salary upfront to be spread out throughout the contract length) but also an extension in years to make the numbers work.

What I'm worried about is what do we need all of this cap space for if not for Hackett AND Johnson (maybe Colvin, Utecht/Troupe and Demps as backups)? But to me, these guys should come at fair deals (no more than 2M in cap space each). If we signed ALL of them, I can see the need for that much space but I don't think we're getting them all.... so what do we need the space for?
We may make a big move here in a bit.

Moe

03-04-2008, 01:51 PM

What I'm worried about is what do we need all of this cap space for if not for Hackett AND Johnson (maybe Colvin, Utecht/Troupe and Demps as backups)? But to me, these guys should come at fair deals (no more than 2M in cap space each). If we signed ALL of them, I can see the need for that much space but I don't think we're getting them all.... so what do we need the space for?

Having the cash in hand can't hurt anything and aside from this round of FA's there'll be plenty of cuts where talent might be made available and having this extra scratch might be useful.

The Skinsinator

03-04-2008, 01:52 PM

Having the cash in hand can't hurt anything and aside from this round of FA's there'll be plenty of cuts where talent might be made available and having this extra scratch might be useful.Wow what a novel concept PERHAPS our front office catching on to.

AliBabba

03-04-2008, 04:10 PM

Having the cash in hand can't hurt anything and aside from this round of FA's there'll be plenty of cuts where talent might be made available and having this extra scratch might be useful.

Tell that to the Daniel Snyder Redskins of 1999-2007

thehogs11

03-04-2008, 07:00 PM

I agree.I think everything has quieted down about CJ and they are going to give our #1 and another pick(maybe next year)since the positions we will be looking for aren't star studded at 21.

If they do that I would rather them go after Larry fitzgerald. He is a stud and only 24

Red Bear

03-04-2008, 07:10 PM

If they do that I would rather them go after Larry fitzgerald. He is a stud and only 24

larry fitzgerald has a contract i wouldnt touch

thehogs11

03-04-2008, 07:59 PM

Larry Fitzgerald has a contract i would touch

They would have to redo the deal first. Then possibly extend. It is his rookie contract so it is possible. Plus the Eagles are looking at him. And if that cheap team can do it....

skinfanjon

03-04-2008, 08:13 PM

They would have to redo the deal first. Then possibly extend. It is his rookie contract so it is possible. Plus the Eagles are looking at him. And if that cheap team can do it....

Fitz's contract is impossible, he's due $31 mil in guaranteed cash over the next two years. There's no way we can make a move for him. If the Eagles want to deal with what he'll command in a restructure, more power to them.

Moe

03-05-2008, 06:36 AM

Tell that to the Daniel Snyder Redskins of 1999-2007

Zing!

Pass the bottle, drink it down...pass it around.

RedskinRyan

03-05-2008, 10:02 AM

From 20million over to 8 million under...?

Our Capologist is the dog's bollocks. And no messing...

:)

Can we put him in charge of the Tailgate Weekend...?

Put him in charge of ordering food and alcohol

Red Bear

03-05-2008, 10:20 AM

They would have to redo the deal first. Then possibly extend. It is his rookie contract so it is possible. Plus the Eagles are looking at him. And if that cheap team can do it....

fitz is due 31 million over the next two years, and thats primarily in base salary. the cardinals options are to trade him(what team would want that contract?), extend him for a contract with more than 31 million in gaurantees(more because hes essentially due to make that much without a new deal), or cut him(not gonna happen).

Fitz's contract is impossible, he's due $31 mil in guaranteed cash over the next two years. There's no way we can make a move for him. If the Eagles want to deal with what he'll command in a restructure, more power to them.

i dont think its gauranteed, its 31 million he will cost against the cap the next two years tho. next season would be the season for the cards to trade him or extend him, where you can give him a contract thats fair to him and the team.

Lacquer Head

03-05-2008, 02:36 PM

Brit'Skin

03-05-2008, 02:45 PM

I bet we wouldn't have all these restructures if not for Sean. These guys are still going to be playing for him for a long time, maybe for the rest of their careers.

I get the feeling there's an "unfinished business" mindset around the FO and locker room. I want to see it.

Why not? Its not as if they are losing money. They just convert salary to bonuses of something (i don't know exactly how it works) to lower the cap hit and the player still ends up making the same money.

We and many other teams do it every year.