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hail2skins
09-16-2003, 09:35 AM
I've been reading how our linebackers are enjoying the freedom that Edwards gives them. He doesn't give them total control but they can adjust if they see something. That's what happened with Armstead's sack for a safety. It wasn't a designed blitz. He was supposed to stick with Dunn but recognized the play from earlier and acted on it. Edwards tells them that if you going to do it then you had better make the play. These guys really love playing for this guy and that'll only benefit us.

Green-Is-Good
09-16-2003, 09:41 AM
I think that our LBs can contend with Pittsburgh and Baltimore's LBs.

Spence
09-16-2003, 09:42 AM
They can right now, GiG.

skinswin'emALL
09-16-2003, 09:43 AM
Originally posted by hail2skins
I've been reading how our linebackers are enjoying the freedom that Edwards gives them. He doesn't give them total control but they can adjust if they see something. That's what happened with Armstead's sack for a safety. It wasn't a designed blitz. He was supposed to stick with Dunn but recognized the play from earlier and acted on it. Edwards tells them that if you going to do it then you had better make the play. These guys really love playing for this guy and that'll only benefit us.

i was just ssaying the exact same thing to my Giant's friend this morning and made ref to the same 2 plays. You really get the feeling the Def and especially the LBs love this twist in Edwards System.

I noticed that on 1 of Price's 2 rec that he lined up in the slot and the skins didn't swith to let Bailey cover him. After that Bailey was on him no matter what -- I love that.

Let your play makers make plays.

PennSkinsFan
09-16-2003, 09:53 AM
That is the beauty of the system Edwards has in plac ehere and the reason for Lavar's positive comments all throughout the off-season. Arrington was excited as heck when Edwards was named DC and reason being is what we are seeing now. Guys like Arrington and Trotter are at their best when they are not in a strict struture. They have a sense for the ball, they have a sense for the plays. Soemtimes they will miss or mis-read and it may cost us, but the benefits of this freedom far outweight the prospect of having them stay in place.

Patrick
09-16-2003, 10:13 AM
Originally posted by hail2skins
I've been reading how our linebackers are enjoying the freedom that Edwards gives them. He doesn't give them total control but they can adjust if they see something. That's what happened with Armstead's sack for a safety. It wasn't a designed blitz. He was supposed to stick with Dunn but recognized the play from earlier and acted on it. Edwards tells them that if you going to do it then you had better make the play. These guys really love playing for this guy and that'll only benefit us.

Read the same article ................
Yesterday on the John Thompson show (AM980) - they had Lavar on and were basicly going over the same thing as it applied to him. The way it sounded to me is that he feels more confortable in his current roll and UNDERSTANDS what Edwards wants him to do. Last year he DIDN'T know what his roll was. .... I really found that interesting.

REDMAN
09-16-2003, 11:11 AM
Our backers are beasts.........and getting better each week. I think Armstead is gonna have a monster year.

jsarno
09-16-2003, 11:47 AM
I honestly feel that no team's LB's are better than ours. NONE! We are playing nearly flawless ball from the LB spot. Edwards was wise to let them roam.
We are 2-0 mainly because the LB's are outstanding. We rely on them, and will rely on them throuhgout the season.

Spence
09-16-2003, 11:49 AM
Arrington had 11 sacks last season in a system he didn't understand. Let's see how many he gets this year in a system he does understand.

Ummm, none so far.

dj_stouty
09-16-2003, 11:57 AM
Originally posted by Spence
Arrington had 11 sacks last season in a system he didn't understand. Let's see how many he gets this year in a system he does understand.

Ummm, none so far.

I'll bet he has less than half this year. His role is not that of a sole pass rusher anymore. His success will not be determined in how many sacks he records.

skinswin'emALL
09-16-2003, 12:27 PM
Originally posted by dj_stouty
I'll bet he has less than half this year. His role is not that of a sole pass rusher anymore. His success will not be determined in how many sacks he records.

Ditto...I sometimes get frustrated when LBs are solely judged for the number of sacks they have.

LBs who get a high number of sacks are usually just glorified DEs.

Arrington may have gotten more sacks getting down in the 3 pt stance on passing plays, but he didn't feel comfortable with it.

My bet is that he make more PLAYS this year.

Patrick
09-16-2003, 12:32 PM
Originally posted by Spence
Arrington had 11 sacks last season in a system he didn't understand. Let's see how many he gets this year in a system he does understand.

Ummm, none so far.


Understand but don't think his role IS to be the sack leader of the team either ALTHOUGH even though he has none now, I still feel he will exceed his total from last year.

Spence
09-16-2003, 12:37 PM
I think you are all correct. Arrington's role has changed this year. That's one of the things that concerns me. If Arrington is not going to sack the quarterback, who is? If we've got a better pass-rusher on this team than Lavar Arrington I'd like to know who it is.

Skinzaholic
09-16-2003, 01:38 PM
If I say Bruce Smith... do I get smacked?

Spence
09-16-2003, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by Skinzaholic
If I say Bruce Smith... do I get smacked?
No, but it sure says something that our best pass rusher on the defensive line is 40 years old.

skinswin'emALL
09-16-2003, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by Skinzaholic
If I say Bruce Smith... do I get smacked?

:smash: :smash: :smash:

My guess is that the sacks will come different players when needed. Remember that the sack stat doesn't always tell the whole story about TEAM defense
-- Through 2 weeks the Skins are tied for first in 3rd down conv % allowed, Avg yards per play and least penalized yards on def -- that's awesome. (NFL.com)

If we get presure or disrupt a play or have great coverage -- a "sack" is not needed.

Patrick
09-17-2003, 09:04 AM
Originally posted by Spence
I think you are all correct. Arrington's role has changed this year. That's one of the things that concerns me. If Arrington is not going to sack the quarterback, who is? If we've got a better pass-rusher on this team than Lavar Arrington I'd like to know who it is.

Spence - I think they printed part of your answer in today's WashPost/RedskinsNotebook/RushProvingEffective.

IowaSkinsFan
09-17-2003, 09:11 AM
Originally posted by Spence
I think you are all correct. Arrington's role has changed this year. That's one of the things that concerns me. If Arrington is not going to sack the quarterback, who is? If we've got a better pass-rusher on this team than Lavar Arrington I'd like to know who it is.

If you are talking a pure pash rusher, then I would say LaDairis Jackson. Problem is that he is so one dimensional right now it is hard to get him on the field. That combined with the fact that Zellner is playing well.

hail2skins
09-17-2003, 10:28 AM
I find it interesting that all we heard in the offseason was that Bruce would be 3rd down pass rusher. Well, he's been an everydown players since the season started. Are our DE's that bad that a 40 yr old guy can beat them out?

Patrick
09-17-2003, 01:21 PM
hey, Hey, HEY - watch it now - that is Mr. Bruce Smith we are talking about and even at 40 he's better than 3/4 of the DE's in the league. .... HELL, I'd love to see him play at his All-Pro level one more time - wouldn't you?

hail2skins
09-17-2003, 01:24 PM
Yes Patrick I would but I don't think he can do it at 40 playing everydown.

TexSkin
09-17-2003, 02:19 PM
I want to see Bowen used in blitz packages the way Lynch in TB is used. I see him coming from the same mold as Lynch but still is too raw to be put in the same league as him.

hail2skins
09-17-2003, 02:21 PM
Damn Tex, I was about to ask about you.

rskinsfan10
09-17-2003, 02:24 PM
We can't automatically dismiss Smith's abilities due to his age alone. So far I have noticed that he has applied good pressure from his position. The sacks will come IMO.

skinswin'emALL
09-17-2003, 02:25 PM
I think we will see more new twist to our D each and every week. As they master what they are doing, Edwards will put mre packages in.

hail2skins
09-17-2003, 02:25 PM
I hope you're right.