Sue Al Gore?

[RedskinsDave]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,337710,00.html

Awesome.

[CNYSkinFan]

I hope he does sue.....

but he won't because it is a big empty threat. This is the pseudo news that FOx is famous for, have a conservative on, have them state a half truth or empty promise, and report it as real news. Shouldn't we wait until this douchebag actually fileds suit and not just openly ponders the question of whether or not he should?

Of course this is playing on the ignorance of the public. They continue to use the term global warming in the winter in the hopes that people will look outside at the snow and say "don't look like it to me"/ I am not a scientist and wish I understood the process more, however there is a reason why most climatologists are using the term Climate Change over Global Warming. The theory of climate change has evolved and is still evolving.

If you want anecdotal evidence of real changes happning in the environment we can look at the mass melt off in antartica and greenland over the last few years. Something is happening out there and more then liklely Man is the cause. If we want to debate how we can best minimize the effect, fine, but the debate of whether something is happening and we are th root cause has been pretty much settled in my mind and the minds of most scientists not employed by energy companies and conservative think tanks.

Bring on the lawsuit, I would love to see it.

[PyroGenic]

What's funny is that there was also another climate shift about a 1,000 years ago and you can't tell me that a bunch of dirty peasants produced enough CO2 and pollution to cause the earth to get warmer. I wish I remember where I read this, but I also saw that humans create a minuscule difference in the atmosphere and the "warming" compared to what is naturally occurring. It's pretty interesting to see how people can get away with exaggerating a situation as long as it's for a good cause.

[CNYSkinFan]

What's funny is that there was also another climate shift about a 1,000 years ago and you can't tell me that a bunch of dirty peasants produced enough CO2 and pollution to cause the earth to get warmer. I wish I remember where I read this, but I also saw that humans create a minuscule difference in the atmosphere and the "warming" compared to what is naturally occurring. It's pretty interesting to see how people can get away with exaggerating a situation as long as it's for a good cause.
and I have also read that the Midevil warming you are referencing is miniscule compared to the current situation.

Look I don't pretend to be a scientist, I leave that to the GOP congressmen and right wing radio hosts, I just amm going by what the overwhelming majority of scientists have said is going on.

My main point is why Fox is reporting this as news? Why not =wait until the guy bactually files suit? Because simply he won't. this is all part of the "plant the seeds of doubt" strategy that has worked so well in the past.

Again there have been few if any peer reviewed published studies that actually combat the thousands of studies that seem to support the idea of a man made escalated climate change. The only scientists that have come out against the theory have clearly been in the employ of oil companies.

[fent]

i actually saw an article a couple weeks ago by some scandinavian solar researchers that believe we're about to enter a cold spell but not because of man...because of the lack of solar activity. granted it's been a couple weeks so i may not be remembering 100% correctly, but apparently their monitoring shows the sun had a ton of surface level activity for the last couple years and has recently just gone to basically zero. the last time someone documented this kind of drop was 100+ years ago and the temperature dropped world wide pretty significantly for over a decade. i'll see if i can find it. don't know the group at all (obviously, since about the only thing i can do scientifically is make a baking soda volcano) or their reliability, but it was an interesting read.

[RedskinsDave]

I think he should win a Nobel Prize a fly all over the world leaving a gigantic carbon footprint. That and grow a big fat beard. Cool.

[RedskinsDave]

I hope he does sue.....

but he won't because it is a big empty threat. This is the pseudo news that FOx is famous for, have a conservative on, have them state a half truth or empty promise, and report it as real news. Shouldn't we wait until this douchebag actually fileds suit and not just openly ponders the question of whether or not he should?

Of course this is playing on the ignorance of the public.

Like most "documentaries" do.

They continue to use the term global warming in the winter in the hopes that people will look outside at the snow and say "don't look like it to me"/ I am not a scientist and wish I understood the process more, however there is a reason why most climatologists are using the term Climate Change over Global Warming. The theory of climate change has evolved and is still evolving.

If you want anecdotal evidence of real changes happning in the environment we can look at the mass melt off in antartica and greenland over the last few years. Something is happening out there and more then liklely Man is the cause. If we want to debate how we can best minimize the effect, fine, but the debate of whether something is happening and we are th root cause has been pretty much settled in my mind and the minds of most scientists not employed by energy companies and conservative think tanks.

Bring on the lawsuit, I would love to see it.

Not a scientist huh? You and Al Gore have much in common. I have to go give a presentation on molecular bio now. My qualifications are that I pretend to care about them.

[akhhorus]

What exactly could you sue him for? Promoting Global Warming? I think you'd have to sue every scientist who believes it in before Gore.


What's funny is that there was also another climate shift about a 1,000 years ago and you can't tell me that a bunch of dirty peasants produced enough CO2 and pollution to cause the earth to get warmer. I wish I remember where I read this, but I also saw that humans create a minuscule difference in the atmosphere and the "warming" compared to what is naturally occurring. It's pretty interesting to see how people can get away with exaggerating a situation as long as it's for a good cause.

That might have been the long term effects of Roman Mining in Spain. They've found pollution from that(linked by lead isotopes that could have only have come from Spain from that time period) in Greenland, North Russia, Alaska, etc. To give you an idea of how big the operations where, just in the Rio Tinto region(the big silver region of Spain), the Romans left 6.6 million tons of slag(pollution left over by mining). Most mines today-even the big industrial ones might produce 40 or so tons a year, the ones in Russia or where there's no environmental controls might produce 100 or so a year.

[Keino]

I would like to sue Al Gore for running a Crappy campaign in 2000 leading to the mess that has been the previous 7 years.

[CNYSkinFan]

What exactly could you sue him for? Promoting Global Warming? I think you'd have to sue every scientist who believes it in before Gore.




That might have been the long term effects of Roman Mining in Spain. They've found pollution from that(linked by lead isotopes that could have only have come from Spain from that time period) in Greenland, North Russia, Alaska, etc. To give you an idea of how big the operations where, just in the Rio Tinto region(the big silver region of Spain), the Romans left 6.6 million tons of slag(pollution left over by mining). Most mines today-even the big industrial ones might produce 40 or so tons a year, the ones in Russia or where there's no environmental controls might produce 100 or so a year.
OH GOOOD GOD!!!!!!

Akh you should change your title to "hr staff professor on everything Roman"

[Fathead]

Al Gore is an alarmist douchebag. That being said, suing to try to prove there is no global warming would be less effective than suing to prove there is no gravity.

[RedskinsDave]

Al Gore is an alarmist douchebag. That being said, suing to try to prove there is no global warming would be less effective than suing to prove there is no gravity.

Not true. We KNOW gravity exists.

[RedskinsDave]

THIS needs to be explained:

http://www.venganza.org/piratesarecool4.gif

[Keino]

THIS needs to be explained:

http://www.venganza.org/piratesarecool4.gif

LMAO.

How do you explain such nonsense?

[akhhorus]

THIS needs to be explained:

http://www.venganza.org/piratesarecool4.gif

Shiver me timbers!

[PyroGenic]

What exactly could you sue him for? Promoting Global Warming? I think you'd have to sue every scientist who believes it in before Gore.




That might have been the long term effects of Roman Mining in Spain. They've found pollution from that(linked by lead isotopes that could have only have come from Spain from that time period) in Greenland, North Russia, Alaska, etc. To give you an idea of how big the operations where, just in the Rio Tinto region(the big silver region of Spain), the Romans left 6.6 million tons of slag(pollution left over by mining). Most mines today-even the big industrial ones might produce 40 or so tons a year, the ones in Russia or where there's no environmental controls might produce 100 or so a year.

I didn't realize that slag produced by ancient miners would have such a profound impact on their climate. Are you sure it's a comparable pollutant to what's supposedly plaguing us today? If it is, well then, that article I read was full of lies... but it makes sense, especially since it was from a car magazine lol.

[akhhorus]

I didn't realize that slag produced by ancient miners would have such a profound impact on their climate. Are you sure it's a comparable pollutant to what's supposedly plaguing us today? If it is, well then, that article I read was full of lies... but it makes sense, especially since it was from a car magazine lol.

Smelting metals is worse(at least as bad) as any industrial pollution up until the modern age. The Romans did it on an industrial scale in Spain, England and Northern France(especially Spain, they turned north Spain into a strip mine). The Slag is the leftover from smelting, so they pumped millions of tons of industrial waste into the air. We have anecdotal evidence from historians of that time talking about the changing weather for a couple hundred years and we have ice core samples which shows the pollution in the air at that time.

[PyroGenic]

Smelting metals is worse(at least as bad) as any industrial pollution up until the modern age. The Romans did it on an industrial scale in Spain, England and Northern France(especially Spain, they turned north Spain into a strip mine). The Slag is the leftover from smelting, so they pumped millions of tons of industrial waste into the air. We have anecdotal evidence from historians of that time talking about the changing weather for a couple hundred years and we have ice core samples which shows the pollution in the air at that time.

Good enough evidence for me, go al gore!

[Fathead]

Not true. We KNOW gravity exists.


There is much more scientific consensus on Anthropogenic Global Warming than there is on any theory on gravity.