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skin4ever
04-23-2008, 11:01 AM
seems like the skins are the preverbial girl who cant get a date to the prom.

Cards reject our offer for boldin, would be interesting to see how it compares to CJ.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3363170

ZClake
04-23-2008, 11:37 AM
Now Roy Williams?

ChiefPowhatan17
04-23-2008, 11:38 AM
This all could change come Saturday.

Battle Cat
04-23-2008, 11:48 AM
Well the guys at Cincy need to be drugged tested for not taking a 1st and conditional 3rd when guys like Randy Moss don't go for nearly that much. I guess all of the focusing on the draft and building through the draft talk is out the window. A first rounder will get the Anquan Boldin deal done eventually. I totally disagree with it but a 1st will get it done.

PennSkinsFan
04-23-2008, 11:55 AM
Let's hope it stays this way

Taylor21TheUndertaker
04-23-2008, 11:55 AM
They will probably all be moved draft day.

greatest2
04-23-2008, 12:19 PM
if we are going to do a trade for a wide reciever, i rather it be boldin then Chad or roy, for reasons everyone pretty much know.


a first and a 3rd that could escalte to a 1st is a bit much. i mean i thought a 1st and 3rd period is about at the breaking point. There price tag has to come down right? if not how can we justify that price (2 1st or at best a 1sst and 2nd) with so many holes and age with our players?

i tell you what tho, it would be fun to see boldin in the BG because that man is a man child, has everything you want in a receiver, and does all of it at a very high level. plus with Tana in the 2 and el to 3, cooley and portis, and a proper trigger man this time, we could be dangerous baring injury. anyway who knows what they do, lets jus enjoy the ride

shally
04-23-2008, 12:26 PM
if we are going to do a trade for a wide reciever, i rather it be boldin then Chad or roy, for reasons everyone pretty much know.


a first and a 3rd that could escalte to a 1st is a bit much. i mean i thought a 1st and 3rd period is about at the breaking point. There price tag has to come down right? if not how can we justify that price (2 1st or at best a 1sst and 2nd) with so many holes and age with our players?

i tell you what tho, it would be fun to see boldin in the BG because that man is a man child, has everything you want in a receiver, and does all of it at a very high level. plus with Tana in the 2 and el to 3, cooley and portis, and a proper trigger man this time, we could be dangerous baring injury. anyway who knows what they do, lets jus enjoy the ride


come this weekend, i agree, there could be a lot of movement

right now i think we will end up trading the pick(s) somehow...

chrisbcbu
04-23-2008, 12:40 PM
Well the guys at Cincy need to be drugged tested for not taking a 1st and conditional 3rd when guys like Randy Moss don't go for nearly that much. I guess all of the focusing on the draft and building through the draft talk is out the window. A first rounder will get the Anquan Boldin deal done eventually. I totally disagree with it but a 1st will get it done.

I dont know what is so tough to understand that Moss was an exception. Everyone thought he was on the downside of his career. His work ethic, his motivation and his production were all in question. The Raiders were trying to give him away as he was a headache to management. That is why he only went for a 4th rounder.

He is an exception and he did not set the value of WRs.

Redskin4Life
04-23-2008, 01:11 PM
I dont know what is so tough to understand that Moss was an exception. Everyone thought he was on the downside of his career. His work ethic, his motivation and his production were all in question. The Raiders were trying to give him away as he was a headache to management. That is why he only went for a 4th rounder.

He is an exception and he did not set the value of WRs.

Exactly... funny how everyone's forgot that he got traded to the Raiders for a 1st (the #7 overall), a 7th and a player.

skinsfan36
04-23-2008, 01:16 PM
i really dont see boldin,cj,or wiliams getting traded i mean how can you pass us the offer we made. phillys offer is pretty appealing to them to with lito included. it should be interesting

Lavar703
04-23-2008, 03:26 PM
i really dont see boldin,cj,or wiliams getting traded i mean how can you pass us the offer we made. phillys offer is pretty appealing to them to with lito included. it should be interesting

If cinci or arizona likes a player thats available when we pick in the first round than come saturday when the skins are on the clock Chad Johnson or Anquan Boldin will be a Redskin.

BraveHeartFan
04-23-2008, 03:33 PM
Or he'll be an Eagle or any other team that might have something sitting there in the first that Cincy or Arizona really wants.

The Arizona one seems even less likely because they don't pick much before the Redskins do, so I can't see how a player they 'covet' is sitting there at 21 after they just let him pass by.


I do agree one, or all three, of these guys could be moved on draft day but I'll put each ones chances of being moved at about 8% right now.

AliBabba
04-23-2008, 03:43 PM
I do agree one, or all three, of these guys could be moved on draft day but I'll put each ones chances of being moved at about 8% right now.

question, why not 9% or 7.25%?

:rolleyes:

JsMaViSd
04-23-2008, 03:52 PM
i would love to see Boldin come to BG

skinsfan36
04-23-2008, 04:17 PM
Or he'll be an Eagle or any other team that might have something sitting there in the first that Cincy or Arizona really wants.

The Arizona one seems even less likely because they don't pick much before the Redskins do, so I can't see how a player they 'covet' is sitting there at 21 after they just let him pass by.


I do agree one, or all three, of these guys could be moved on draft day but I'll put each ones chances of being moved at about 8% right now.

they could like multiple players alot and the one they dont take could be available

HanburgerBum
04-23-2008, 05:00 PM
I dont know what is so tough to understand that Moss was an exception. Everyone thought he was on the downside of his career. His work ethic, his motivation and his production were all in question. The Raiders were trying to give him away as he was a headache to management. That is why he only went for a 4th rounder.

He is an exception and he did not set the value of WRs.


Randy Moss is a headache, but Chad Johnson is not? How did you arrive at that?

Battle Cat
04-23-2008, 05:05 PM
I dont know what is so tough to understand that Moss was an exception. Everyone thought he was on the downside of his career. His work ethic, his motivation and his production were all in question. The Raiders were trying to give him away as he was a headache to management. That is why he only went for a 4th rounder.

He is an exception and he did not set the value of WRs.
You don't think Chad is a headache and has questions about what he will do to your locker room. But we offer possibly two first. I think Chad has several questions as well. He is basicly holding the team hostage and he is going to want one of the top contracts once he is traded that is a whole overhead compartment full of baggage and his age.

akhhorus
04-23-2008, 05:28 PM
You don't think Chad is a headache and has questions about what he will do to your locker room. But we offer possibly two first. I think Chad has several questions as well. He is basicly holding the team hostage and he is going to want one of the top contracts once he is traded that is a whole overhead compartment full of baggage and his age.

Chad is still an extremely productive WR. Randy Moss, a year ago, was seen as washed up and old. And it was the moronic raiders trying to get rid of him anyway they could. That trade doesn't set the market.

InsomniaKiller
04-23-2008, 07:10 PM
Oh c'mon, Cards! Give 'im!

I really want this guy. He is totally worth what we offered Chad.

Hr fan
04-24-2008, 09:04 AM
come this weekend, i agree, there could be a lot of movement

right now i think we will end up trading the pick(s) somehow...

There will be movement this weekend, and the teams can thank Parcells for setting the contract bar much lower than, for instance, typical QB money. I makes later 1st round picks more desirable because the contracts by slotting will be more affordable. As far as Snyderatto goes, I think Chad isn't worth one 1st, let alone 2. We are not 1 player away, and by the time we are a 30 yr old won't be a factor. Maybe Bouldin will. But I think turning down these offers is more a way of recognizing the Snyderatto can always be fooled into upping the ante to far more than a player is worth. Besides, based on Archuletta and Lloyd, a new contract that far overpays the player and causes future cap problems can be expected.

smoak
04-24-2008, 09:21 AM
Let's hope it stays this way

Agreed. I am beginning to hate the post-Gibbs regime already... If we deal away multiple first round picks or even day one picks, I might be done.

Here is a novel idea... LEARN TO DEVELOP TALENT YOU MORONS.

redwolf1218
04-24-2008, 10:13 AM
Now Roy Williams?

that's who i'm hoping for. bigger, taller, faster.

csquared
04-24-2008, 10:16 AM
Agreed. I am beginning to hate the post-Gibbs regime already... If we deal away multiple first round picks or even day one picks, I might be done.

Here is a novel idea... LEARN TO DEVELOP TALENT YOU MORONS.

And the Gibbs regime was any better? I dont need to remind you of the boneheaded moves that were made during his 2nd tour do i?

smoak
04-24-2008, 12:28 PM
And the Gibbs regime was any better? I dont need to remind you of the boneheaded moves that were made during his 2nd tour do i?

Please. Nice hit & run.

All I did was describe the current regime and made ZERO reference to Gibbs or the pre-Gibbs comparisons... Ask anyone who attends the annual draft party and they'll tell you what my reaction to the McIntosh trade was so lets not pretend I'm saying anything other than the rumors coming out lately scare me. Gibbs 2.0 never crapped away two first rounders on an existing player, and if he did, I'd have the same reaction.

Battle Cat
04-24-2008, 05:04 PM
Chad is still an extremely productive WR. Randy Moss, a year ago, was seen as washed up and old. And it was the moronic raiders trying to get rid of him anyway they could. That trade doesn't set the market.
Well who ever thought that he was washed up was a moron in my opinion if you put Chad Johnson Jerry Rice and Randy Moss in their primes on a team with Andrew Walter and Tuiassosopo at quarterback and Robert Gallery at left tackle they will look washed up.

I think the Randy Moss trade is the market to most teams just not the Redskins. Plus there are several questions about Chad Johnson in my opinon. I rather take a chance on a guy like Randy Moss that just wants out or off a team over a guy that wants to get paid. The guys that just want to get paid are very dangerous guys to sign especially when they are near or over 30 and are just as scary as the Corey Dillons and Randy Moss's who are willing to take pay cuts to go to better situations. I don't know who the wide receiver who set the market at a t 1st rounder and a conditional 3rd is?

I think the Randy Moss, Javon Walker, Keyshawn Johnson and TO situations are the closest thing to the Chad Johnson situation and I don't think any brought a 1st and another possible 1st the next year. I don't know of any player ever traded that brought that much at least not recently and Chad is good but not the best player in the NFL by far.

skinsfan36
04-24-2008, 05:09 PM
chads production has been way too high to get him for a 4th some thought randy was done before being traded to the pats