Not a good start Davis

[firehawk157]

Link (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/)

Unexcused absence from your third practice? Bad form Fred.

[WinnpegSkinsFan]

I hope this is a minor, isolated incident. If not I think Davis will find his NFL fantasy will be over pretty quick.

[JasonCampbell]

moron

[Hr fan]

Immaturity shown early in the game. He will have ground to make up and relations to mend. I hope he is man enough to do it.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

I particularly enjoyed this quote from his brother:
And like I said, I haven't talked to him yet, but I know him. And knowing Frederick the way I do, he was probably just out late and he overslept, he probably just didn't hear the alarm.

[NCskinsfanatic]

He'll be fine...he should probably fear Zorns' scorn though lol. I bet you it wont happen again or his Redskin career will be short lived IMO.

[Slobberknocker]

He overslept. Calm down, citizens. At least he wasn't out boating with a certain Chigagoan.

[WarEagle]

He'll be fine...he should probably fear Zorns' scorn though lol. I bet you it wont happen again or his Redskin career will be short lived IMO.

Agreed. This could just be a youthful blunder. I'm not upset until it happens again, I guess.

[redwolf1218]

i have always hated "the alarm" excuse. dont stay out too late if you cant get up in the morning. that's unbelievable, with what he has at stake.

[greatest2]

lets hope he gets it under control. I mean if he was out late last night before the summer and before the season starts, whats he going to do when we crush the cowgirls:)?

im just kidding, i hope this is a simple 1 time incident where a rookie made a mistake and he learns from it. THese guys are just learning what it takes to be a PRo football player. THe details, the approach, the preperation, etc. Hopefully he learned his lesson and there is no real harm.

[chrisbcbu]

Perhaps he isnt used to the time change yet?

[skinfan43]

i have always hated "the alarm" excuse. dont stay out too late if you cant get up in the morning. that's unbelievable, with what he has at stake.
With all due respect RW, what does he have at stake exactly? Skins will be hard-pressed to cut a 3rd rounder because he missed a practice...he knows he's getting paid and was out partying it up most likely. A dumb move, but unless he does something negative that's far more newsworthy, he ain't going anywhere IMO.
And thus begins the LOOOOOOONG wait for training camp, where we will be scrounging for anything, however minor, to read about the Skins:rolleyes:

[redwolf1218]

i'm sure it's just a simple mistake, but if i just started a new job, i would not want to skip my third day because i "stayed out too late".

[redwolf1218]

With all due respect RW, what does he have at stake exactly? Skins will be hard-pressed to cut a 3rd rounder because he missed a practice...he knows he's getting paid and was out partying it up most likely. A dumb move, but unless he does something negative that's far more newsworthy, he ain't going anywhere IMO.
And thus begins the LOOOOOOONG wait for training camp, where we will be scrounging for anything, however minor, to read about the Skins:rolleyes:

he was a 2nd rounder, but i get your point. what he has at stake is his NFL career, and lots of money, and his reputation. right or wrong, perception is often 90% of reality.

[chrisbcbu]

With all due respect RW, what does he have at stake exactly? Skins will be hard-pressed to cut a 3rd rounder because he missed a practice...he knows he's getting paid and was out partying it up most likely. A dumb move, but unless he does something negative that's far more newsworthy, he ain't going anywhere IMO.
And thus begins the LOOOOOOONG wait for training camp, where we will be scrounging for anything, however minor, to read about the Skins:rolleyes:

Do not forget that he has not signed a contract yet. So this could affect his money.

I doubt it will if this is an isolated incident but if its a pattern it definately will affect it.

[skinfanjon]

He gets no free pass from me if it was an oversleeping problem. We all know the implication of being out too late, he needs to shape up. This is inexcusable and he will be in the doghouse for awhile.

On the other hand, this is an early opportunity for Zorn to crack the whip a little bit. He has to be concious of the precedent this could set.

[CNYSkinFan]

makes me ever so glad we ignored DE to draft a 2nd te who might have 20-30 touches this season....maybe

[akhhorus]

makes me ever so glad we ignored DE to draft a 2nd te who might have 20-30 touches this season....maybe

I'd rather have someone who plays on the field, but disappears off of it(Davis) than players who disappear on the field(Groves/Campbell). Davis doesn't have any history of this that I can find, so I'm not going to read too much into this unless he does it again.

[skinfan43]

I'd rather have someone who plays on the field, but disappears off of it(Davis) than players who disappear on the field(Groves/Campbell). Davis doesn't have any history of this that I can find, so I'm not going to read too much into this unless he does it again.
Unfortunately my friend, he does:
When he returned to USC late after going home during a school break, Coach Pete Carroll suspended Davis for the 2005 Orange Bowl, which the Trojans won, 55-19, completing their run to an undefeated season and the national championship.

Davis considered leaving USC, but his mother, Margo, told him USC wasn't the problem.

"He had some growing up to do, and he had to learn that on his own," she said. "Mama couldn't teach him and daddy couldn't teach him. The homesickness, going out to California and having to acclimate to a big city as opposed to Toledo, a small town, and not knowing anybody out there . . . it was hard for him and it was hard for me, too.

"But he finally grasped it. He finally said, 'Hey, this is my life. This is my future.'
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/28/AR2008042802616_pf.html

Looks like he takes a bit to deal with changes, especially because he's been "the man" his entire football career thusfar...this recent fiasco is no surprise after reading this piece. But he'd better buck up pretty quick, we aint got no time for no rookie slackers:sfight:

[JasonCampbell]

Unfortunately my friend, he does:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/28/AR2008042802616_pf.html

Looks like he takes a bit to deal with changes, especially because he's been "the man" his entire football career thusfar...this recent fiasco is no surprise after reading this piece. But he'd better buck up pretty quick, we aint got no time for no rookie slackers:sfight:

Couple that with what his brother said:

"And like I said, I haven't talked to him yet, but I know him. And knowing Frederick the way I do, he was probably just out late and he overslept, he probably just didn't hear the alarm. And I know he wasn't feeling too good the other day."

[guess88]

meh, he's a kid. we'll all forget about it when he scores his first td in the 2nd game.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Agreed. This could just be a youthful blunder. I'm not upset until it happens again, I guess.

Exactly, I've heard no reports of him being overly lazy or egotistical so i have to assume a 22 year old kid made a mistake...been there, done that.

[ihatedallas]

He's a 22 year old kid who thought 7 o'clock was really 4 o'clock a week ago..(time change)

It's not like he choked a striper.

[skinfan43]

He's a 22 year old kid who thought 7 o'clock was really 4 o'clock a week ago..(time change)

It's not like he choked a striper.
Yes, I prefer a fishing pole and live bait when attempting to get stripers myself

[ryflan47]

I can't wake up earlier than noon either. (Probably because I'm on here at 4 am posting)

[smoak]

no excuse. davis has an opportunity that a lot of people can only dream about. i'd put him on 100% special teams duty and bury him on the depth chart. its players like fred davis why the redskins haven't won in years.

[firehawk157]

no excuse. davis has an opportunity that a lot of people can only dream about. i'd put him on 100% special teams duty and bury him on the depth chart. its players like fred davis why the redskins haven't won in years.
Now cmon there smoak, that's taking it a bit far... A player oversleeping during mini-camp is the reason we haven't won in years (despite having two winning seasons in the last 3 years).

Regardless, he'll get the third degree from Zorn, as he should, and probably shape up. Not a huge deal, but he needs to think it is.

[smoak]

Now cmon there smoak, that's taking it a bit far... A player oversleeping during mini-camp is the reason we haven't won in years (despite having two winning seasons in the last 3 years).

Regardless, he'll get the third degree from Zorn, as he should, and probably shape up. Not a huge deal, but he needs to think it is.

its about attitude not the fact that he overslept. this team has been rife with players who put everything ahead of football. music careers, social life, etc.

until i hear much better news coming out of camp re davis, i couldn't care less about him. i truly hope he gets buried on the depth chart and someone takes his spot.

[redwolf1218]

i hope Zorn does something about this. this is where you make a choice to either send a message, or you let it slide. this kid basically skipped work on his 3rd day at a new job. i cannot imagine doing that.

and you know what? i dont buy this "didnt hear the alarm" crap either. if you dont hear the alarm, how long can you stay in bed? all day? you cant just be a little late, but rather you miss an entire day? you wake up an hour late and you just say screw it, i'll stay home all day, the Redskins will let it slide?

[redskin_rich]

i hope Zorn does something about this. this is where you make a choice to either send a message, or you let it slide. this kid basically skipped work on his 3rd day at a new job. i cannot imagine doing that.

and you know what? i dont buy this "didnt hear the alarm" crap either. if you dont hear the alarm, how long can you stay in bed? all day? you cant just be a little late, but rather you miss an entire day? you wake up an hour late and you just say screw it, i'll stay home all day, the Redskins will let it slide?

Yeah, in the "real" world, you would probably be looking for another job already. Not so with these pampered athletes though.

Strike one for Davis.

[Warpath23]

I promise these kids are just mentally weak nowdays. He better wake up fast if he wants to stay around for a long time in the NFL. No ones going to baby him anymore, hes a grown azz man playing in the big league... Hopefully coach Tommy Carcetti (Zorn) can get him in order....lol

[MONK_in_HOF]

its about attitude not the fact that he overslept. this team has been rife with players who put everything ahead of football. music careers, social life, etc.

until i hear much better news coming out of camp re davis, i couldn't care less about him. i truly hope he gets buried on the depth chart and someone takes his spot.

I agree. It is all about attitude and priorities in this case and his actions show an above the law mentality to me. To me it is clear that priorities are out of order when someone misses their 3rd day of work on a new job b/c they overslept due to partying or something along those lines. Hopefully this is a one time thing, but even so I think the Skins should take action to set a precedent and send Davis a bit of a reality check.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

I agree. It is all about attitude and priorities in this case and his actions show an above the law mentality to me. To me it is clear that priorities are out of order when someone misses their 3rd day of work on a new job b/c they overslept due to partying or something along those lines. Hopefully this is a one time thing, but even so I think the Skins should take action to set a precedent and send Davis a bit of a reality check.

I absolutely agree with you, smoak, and Rich.

Besides, even if you do decide to go to sleep late (which is really retarded the night before your third practice ever), then either have someone physically wake you up on time, or put like 5 different alarms or something.
There are ways of being on time in places even if you don't get a whole lotta sleep....

[SkinsfaninNJ]

Yeah, in the "real" world, you would probably be looking for another job already. Not so with these pampered athletes though.

Strike one for Davis.

I agree. Plus, if he really wants to do this and be good at it, then he should want to be there. As corny as it sounds, he should be excited about showing what he can do. Its not like he's a 10 year vet with very little left to prove. Bottom line is this would not have happened to me, so I can't give him a pass.

I'm not ready to punish him, but if I'm Zorn I'm keeping a very close eye on him.

[dj_stouty]

*Red Flag*

While mistakes do happen...some people have a habit of making them over and over.

I didn't like this pick to begin with...and this doesn't make me feel that much better. I have nothing against Davis, personally...other than the fact that he doesn't play defense with his hand in the dirt.

[linzman|skinsfan]

Does anyone really know if he slept in because he was out partying?

I would say it is probably youth too... the article from redskins.com made it sound like he thought someone might wake him up. Sounds like imaturity. I am sure he will learn soon enough.

http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=35683

[linzman|skinsfan]

I agree. Plus, if he really wants to do this and be good at it, then he should want to be there. As corny as it sounds, he should be excited about showing what he can do. Its not like he's a 10 year vet with very little left to prove. Bottom line is this would not have happened to me, so I can't give him a pass.

I'm not ready to punish him, but if I'm Zorn I'm keeping a very close eye on him.

*Red Flag*

While mistakes do happen...some people have a habit of making them over and over.

I didn't like this pick to begin with...and this doesn't make me feel that much better. I have nothing against Davis, personally...other than the fact that he doesn't play defense with his hand in the dirt.


Yeah, I understand both of these points of view... I would hope he would want to be there and that would be his motivation. You don't want to see it over and over because then you probably aren't getting the most out of the guy.

Hard to tell.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

Does anyone really know if he slept in because he was out partying?

I would say it is probably youth too... the article from redskins.com made it sound like he thought someone might wake him up. Sounds like imaturity. I am sure he will learn soon enough.

http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=35683

Welcome aboard.

[warpaint]

some things in the sports world i am sick of hearing (1) i want to put this behind me and move on. (2) i am resigning so can spend more time with my family. (3) sorry didnt make it on time i over slept. seems to me no one can just tell the truth anymore just come up with some lame excuse as to why they did or didnt do something, wouldnt surprise me if reason he was a no show was something other than being a sleepy head , wouldnt he have had a room mate or something there ?? not sure how they work the mini camps,but thought had read that thomas and kelly were room mates .

[linzman|skinsfan]

Welcome aboard.

Thanks! I have been a long time reader but after realizing I am reading every day, figured it was time to add some feedback.

[NamVet4]

Thanks! I have been a long time reader but after realizing I am reading every day, figured it was time to add some feedback.

Glad to see you are contributing:)... Enjoy the "mayhem" and the doldrums as we wait for the season to begin. Welcome Aboard! :)

[SkinsfaninNJ]

Glad to see you are contributing:)... Enjoy the "mayhem" and the doldrums as we wait for the season to begin. Welcome Aboard! :)

Speaking of waiting for the season to begin, I read the blogs on the weekend practices this morning and actually had butterflies. I am ridiculous.

[firehawk157]

Glad to see you are contributing:)... Enjoy the "mayhem" and the doldrums as we wait for the season to begin. Welcome Aboard! :)
Preseason will begin earlier for us though, so things aren't that bad this year!

[Aurej]

What you folks never overslept for work?
I actually thought it was hilarious that it got its own article. I mean for the love of god talk about insignificant minutia.

[WackyJacky]

What you folks never overslept for work?
Actually, no, I have not. I know when I'm supposed to be at work, and, being a responsible adult, I make sure that I get there on time. No excuses.

[silverspring]

What you folks never overslept for work?
I actually thought it was hilarious that it got its own article. I mean for the love of god talk about insignificant minutia.

Sure, but it wasn't like he was just a little late.

Not the end of the world but there is no excuse, strike 1.

[Hrabanmaur]

Link (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=3382195)

Then there was second-round pick Fred Davis. He couldn't sleep Saturday night because his roommate wouldn't shut up. So he went to the desk of the hotel and asked for a different room. He slept until 11 a.m., and the team couldn't find him because he wasn't in the right room. Zorn wants his players alert -- but Fred, tell the roommate to shut up and don't forget the wakeup call.

For those concerned that Davis was up partying late at night and acting flagrantly immature, perhaps its time to extinguish the torches and put the pitchforks back in the shed.

Sounds like he was actually trying to do the responsible thing and get some sleep for practice, just forgot to put in the wake-up call. A mistake? Absolutely. Still his responsibility? Absolutely. Forgivable offense? Absolutely.

[akhhorus]

Link (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=3382195)


For those concerned that Davis was up partying late at night and acting flagrantly immature, perhaps its time to extinguish the torches and put the pitchforks back in the shed.

Sounds like he was actually trying to do the responsible thing and get some sleep for practice, just forgot to put in the wake-up call. A mistake? Absolutely. Still his responsibility? Absolutely. Forgivable offense? Absolutely.

Agreed. If he does this again, I'll be worried. But for now, mountain out of a molehill imo.

[CNYSkinFan]

Link (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=3382195)



For those concerned that Davis was up partying late at night and acting flagrantly immature, perhaps its time to extinguish the torches and put the pitchforks back in the shed.

Sounds like he was actually trying to do the responsible thing and get some sleep for practice, just forgot to put in the wake-up call. A mistake? Absolutely. Still his responsibility? Absolutely. Forgivable offense? Absolutely.
Fred is complaining someone ELSE would not shut up....

Damn that guy must talk a million miles an hour fro Fred to complain

[CNYSkinFan]

Fred is complaining someone ELSE would not shut up....

Damn that guy must talk a million miles an hour fro Fred to complain
nevermind the mad cow got me thinking of Fred Smoot and not Fred Davis

[SkinsfaninNJ]

What you folks never overslept for work?
I actually thought it was hilarious that it got its own article. I mean for the love of god talk about insignificant minutia.

Not on the third day. It is about equity. If you work hard and establish yourself and then screw up, everyone says boy that's not like him and I'm sure he won't let that happen again. In this case, people are saying if I know him he overslept. You don't see that as a problem?

[Keino]

What you folks never overslept for work?
I actually thought it was hilarious that it got its own article. I mean for the love of god talk about insignificant minutia.

Actually I have. You know what I did? I picked up the phone and called and explained what happened and why I would be late.

I don't think asking a guy who you invested a high draft pick on and will invest Millions of Dollars in to show up for work as "insignificant minutia". Certainly not the dire situation some are making it out to be, but it is not as insignificant as you think.

[CNYSkinFan]

Actually I have. You know what I did? I picked up the phone and called and explained what happened and why I would be late.

I don't think asking a guy who you invested a high draft pick on and will invest Millions of Dollars in to show up for work as "insignificant minutia". Certainly not the dire situation some are making it out to be, but it is not as insignificant as you think.
not to mention sleeping int till 11 am...seriously that is not an accident. 11 Am? you ell me he did not wake up once and look at the clock after say 6am?

crazy

[Hrabanmaur]

not to mention sleeping int till 11 am...seriously that is not an accident. 11 Am? you ell me he did not wake up once and look at the clock after say 6am?

crazy

How long has it been since you were in college? On the weekends, the cafeteria doesn't even open until 11:00 a.m. on most campuses because not a creature is stirring on campus.

[Keino]

not to mention sleeping int till 11 am...seriously that is not an accident. 11 Am? you ell me he did not wake up once and look at the clock after say 6am?

crazy

Well most people who don't have kids, have no problems sleeping until 11am. I know I didn't at 22....

[NamVet4]

O.K. ! The rookie made at the least a "bonehead" move.... Significant in that he will almost certainly be hazed about that! But of more interest to me is the response from Coach Zorn, if it ever becomes public and can be verified.
New Coach, new player, new response???? Will the level of the response be in proportion to the perceived severity of the situation???
Or, will a precedent be set.... stay tuned Boys and Girls:smash:

[CNYSkinFan]

Well most people who don't have kids, have no problems sleeping until 11am. I know I didn't at 22....
Well there are days I get to sleep till 11 am but I KNOW it, usually the sun peeks in and wakes me up I grumble something and roll over, but I know it is way after 9am.

but we are beating this horse to death, it is funny the dude's brother called it that he probably overslept.

[Keino]

Well there are days I get to sleep till 11 am but I KNOW it, usually the sun peeks in and wakes me up I grumble something and roll over, but I know it is way after 9am.

but we are beating this horse to death, it is funny the dude's brother called it that he probably overslept.

If it weren't for my early rising children, I could sleep until Noon on Saturdays and Sundays....

[redskin_rich]

not to mention sleeping int till 11 am...seriously that is not an accident. 11 Am? you ell me he did not wake up once and look at the clock after say 6am?

crazyNot sure how many days he has been on the east coast but 11 am EST is the same as 8 am PST. Just saying...
And I personally have not slept until 11 anytime I was sober the night before and got to bed sometime before 2 AM but that's me, I don't sleep a lot.

Like I said earlier, strike one. Hopefully there will be no more strikes.

[dj_stouty]

When I'm traveling for work I setup a wakeup call, I set the alarm clock, and I set the alarm on my cell phone. I'm not oversleeping for ANY reason. And I've been doing this since I started with my current company when I was 23 and I haven't overslept yet. Its all about personal responsibility in my book.

Hopefully Fred learned a valuable lesson.

[smoak]

If it weren't for my early rising children, I could sleep until Noon on Saturdays and Sundays....

Wow. I couldn't sleep that long if I split a half a bottle of Patron with someone...

[skinfan43]

Wow. I couldn't sleep that long if I split a half a bottle of Patron with someone...
Hmmm, shall we give it the ol' college try amigo?;)
(Happy cinco de mayo btw, lol)

[Patrick]

Stupid and hopefully a mistake ..........
That being said - IF I were an owner who had BILLIONS of dollars and I've had a major investment called the Redskins ..... Dern IF I wouldnt have a dorm complex built ON or NEXT to my "Facility" for all those my players that need a place to stay for off season training. Specially ROOKIES!

[Skaggsrules]

I'm just throwing this out there, but I went to bed last night around 12:30, and woke up at 11:30 (didn't drink last night either), no waking up and seeing the clock and rolling back over, but first waking up at 11 am, granted I haven't had a lot of sleep with finals this past week, and friend's graduation, but people can sleep for a while.

[chrisbcbu]

not to mention sleeping int till 11 am...seriously that is not an accident. 11 Am? you ell me he did not wake up once and look at the clock after say 6am?

crazy

Lets not forget that he hasnt been on the east coast very long. It could be very likely he is not used to the time change. 11am est time is 8am PST, so its not out of the realm of possibility that he overslept until 11 am.

[warpaint]

not to mention sleeping int till 11 am...seriously that is not an accident. 11 Am? you ell me he did not wake up once and look at the clock after say 6am?

crazy

all i can say is this guy must have a bladder that is super sized not to have waken up i am certain now he hadnt been having the cold ones.

[redskin_rich]

Stupid and hopefully a mistake ..........
That being said - IF I were an owner who had BILLIONS of dollars and I've had a major investment called the Redskins ..... Dern IF I wouldnt have a dorm complex built ON or NEXT to my "Facility" for all those my players that need a place to stay for off season training. Specially ROOKIES!
The dorm complex is only about 5 minutes away from Redskins Park. Probably about a mile and a half away as the crow flies.

Lets not forget that he hasnt been on the east coast very long. It could be very likely he is not used to the time change. 11am est time is 8am PST, so its not out of the realm of possibility that he overslept until 11 am.Is there an echo in here?

[Aurej]

Only consequence I hope comes of this is his teammates consistently leaving alarms in his locker.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

Only consequence I hope comes of this is his teammates consistently leaving alarms in his locker.

Now that would be funny.

[native skin]

all i can say is this guy must have a bladder that is super sized not to have waken up i am certain now he hadnt been having the cold ones.LOL

[jaylen]

what are the possibilites here

-he got drunk and weeded out therfore he overslept

- he just overslept

- He doesn't wanna be a skin and is protesting

- he has an actual bird in the cuckoo clock and the bird forgot

I wouldn't think its a big deal.

[smoak]

all i can say is this guy must have a bladder that is super sized not to have waken up i am certain now he hadnt been having the cold ones.

you're assuming he didn't have an accident...

[warpaint]

you're assuming he didn't have an accident...

lol yeah you do have a point there,but before did the post gave thought to maybe he did the same thing as the female astronaut who drove from Houston to somewhere in fla. to attempt to do harm to her x boyfriend, for the long drive and to save time she wore one of those astronaut diapers ,maybe Davis did the same thing smoak .

[warpaint]

what are the possibilites here

-he got drunk and weeded out therfore he overslept

- he just overslept

- He doesn't wanna be a skin and is protesting

- he has an actual bird in the cuckoo clock and the bird forgot

I wouldn't think its a big deal.

i wonder if vince lombardi would have thought the same as you "i wouldnt think it was a big deal"???

[oldskinfan]

"He [Davis] couldn't sleep Saturday night because his roommate wouldn't shut up. So he went to the desk of the hotel and asked for a different room. He slept until 11 a.m., and the team couldn't find him because he wasn't in the right room."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=3382195

[ChiefPowhatan17]

Well think God, we didn't draft Calias Campbell at #48, oh wait, my bad. This is so ridiculous, does he think he is above the team. This is professional football, not a college party. I hope he really thinks about his actions. If he wants to party and not play, then I don't want him. He is just lucky Gibbs isn't here this year. I hope the team hazes him bad. Tape him to the goal posts for at least a day. Why did we draft an immature child, we could have gotten one of the better DE's in the draft, but we couldn't deviate from the board.

[redskin_rich]

In the wake of the "Where in the World is Fred Davis" scandal, the Skins have fired their director of security.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/05/redskins_release_director_of_s.html

[akhhorus]

Well think God, we didn't draft Calias Campbell at #48, oh wait, my bad. This is so ridiculous, does he think he is above the team. This is professional football, not a college party. I hope he really thinks about his actions. If he wants to party and not play, then I don't want him. He is just lucky Gibbs isn't here this year. I hope the team hazes him bad. Tape him to the goal posts for at least a day. Why did we draft an immature child, we could have gotten one of the better DE's in the draft, but we couldn't deviate from the board.

1-Calais Campbell's laziness makes Fred Davis look like a Marine Drill Instructor.
2-Do you have any proof that Davis was out partying?
3-Campbell wasn't one of the best DEs in the draft.

[warpaint]

Well think God, we didn't draft Calias Campbell at #48, oh wait, my bad. This is so ridiculous, does he think he is above the team. This is professional football, not a college party. I hope he really thinks about his actions. If he wants to party and not play, then I don't want him. He is just lucky Gibbs isn't here this year. I hope the team hazes him bad. Tape him to the goal posts for at least a day. Why did we draft an immature child, we could have gotten one of the better DE's in the draft, but we couldn't deviate from the board.

come on now chief what would gibbs have done in the same situation ? call two times out ?

[redwolf1218]

In the wake of the "Where in the World is Fred Davis" scandal, the Skins have fired their director of security.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/05/redskins_release_director_of_s.html

i am not surprised at all. Davis could have died of a heart attack, or had some incident like Lefotu last year. it should have taken about 5 minutes to get him. i dont care if he switched rooms, the front desk had to have his name and room number.

[redskin_rich]

i am not surprised at all. Davis could have died of a heart attack, or had some incident like Lefotu last year. it should have taken about 5 minutes to get him. i dont care if he switched rooms, the front desk had to have his name and room number.

That's under the assumption that Davis' story was the truth. I don't buy it, I think he was out all night and probably snuck into another room, under a different name that morning. That would explain why he was unable to be found, a lot better than his story.

Regardless, the security guy needs to know who enters and leaves the building and when.

[redwolf1218]

That's under the assumption that Davis' story was the truth. I don't buy it, I think he was out all night and probably snuck into another room, under a different name that morning. That would explain why he was unable to be found, a lot better than his story.

Regardless, the security guy needs to know who enters and leaves the building and when.

now that you mention it, i agree, there has to be more to this story. it is simply unfathomable to not know where your 2nd round pick is until 11:00 AM.

[skinsfan36]

calais campbell has some upside but if it was that high we would of drafted him at 48(having palmerno)