WT- Training Camp Countdown

[S.Taylor36]

Zorn already has said Portis won't have the freedom to take himself out of games, which means No. 26 will have to be a workhorse and the offense will run based on how he performs. He will be 27 by opening night but already has 1,710 career carries. He's armed with a pay raise and didn't have any offseason surgeries. It's time to for him to become more of a big-play performer.

I like this.

http://www.washtimes.com/news/2008/jul/15/training-camp-countdown-47583304/

[The Skinsinator]

I like hearing this also. I really like how hard CP has been working out in the offseason. I agree give him plenty of opportunities but I would sprinkle Betts in there at times also. I like 20 carries for Portis around 5-10 for Betts. Don't forget about Mason either.

[JsMaViSd]

I like hearing this also. I really like how hard CP has been working out in the offseason. I agree give him plenty of opportunities but I would sprinkle Betts in there at times also. I like 20 carries for Portis around 5-10 for Betts. Don't forget about Mason either.

no, id rather see Rock or Sellers carry more than Mason

[Cutter]

Here's a quote of his from yesterday

How much will the pass rush scheme change with Greg Blache? The former defensive line coach certainly wants to get a better rush up front, but a couple of variables will force his hand. In Chicago, his reputation wasn't as a mad blitzer. If Carlos Rogers isn't ready for the season Blache will have to play more coverage. If Rogers is back and effective, he can leave his three corners in man coverage and use his safeties in a variety of blitzes.

Very interesting that he was known as a "mad blizter" and not a "Cover-2" guy. This gives me hope we'll keep with the 46 and the cover 1.

[akhhorus]

Here's a quote of his from yesterday


Very interesting that he was known as a "mad blizter" and not a "Cover-2" guy. This gives me hope we'll keep with the 46 and the cover 1.

Re-read what it says:

In Chicago, his reputation wasn't as a mad blitzer.

[The Skinsinator]

no, id rather see Rock or Sellers carry more than MasonSellers had possibly one to two good carries all of last year and I can't recall any for Rock. In all likelihood, none of these 3 will get any important serious durations at rb but you never know. However I do believe Mason has untapped potential and the coaching staff needs to explore that thoroughly. I like the idea of a new coach how that creates excellent competition at all spots.

[Red Bear]

Zorn said that about portis months ago. And if portis is really as in shape as the reports say he is, then he shouldnt have to pull himself out anyways.

and its true that blache isnt known as a mad blitzer, but prefers to get pressure with the dline, which kind of plays into the cover-2. if anything maybe we will see more 4 man rushes from the line this year...

[Cutter]

The times said, "mad blizter". Do we have another source that says "boring cover-2"?

[akhhorus]

The times said, "mad blizter". Do we have another source that says "boring cover-2"?

The times said this:

The former defensive line coach certainly wants to get a better rush up front, but a couple of variables will force his hand. In Chicago, his reputation wasn't as a mad blitzer. If Carlos Rogers isn't ready for......

You obviously read what you wanted to read and not what it actually said. I'm going to assume you know what putting "n't" after a word means.

As for the source for Blache playing the cover-2, as I've tried to tell you before, is all those years in chicago where he ran the cover-2. But if you need some written words to satisfy you:

Link (http://www.kffl.com/article.php/85533/74)

Blache is a proponent of the Cover 2 defense. For the Cover 2 to be effective the front four defenders must put pressure on the quarterback. The Cover 2 also relies on smaller, faster linebackers and aggressive strong safety play.

and:

Link (http://sports.espn.go.com/fantasy/football/ffl/story?page=nfldk2k8dstpreview)

That the Washington Redskins defense held up well amid the Sean Taylor tragedy speaks to its character, but I don't think it's a draftable unit in '08. It was nice to see the 'Skins bounce back from a 19-sack season in '06 with a 33-sack effort last year, but outside of Andre Carter, there really aren't any elite pass-rushers here. New defensive coordinator Greg Blache brings a Cover-2 reputation with him, but it's hard to believe that this secondary can execute such a scheme effectively.

[jaylen]

Blache is on the hot seat to me, the cover 2 with our tepid pass rush equals getting ripped for big yards in a bend don't break situation.

I think we have man up players and need to be playing man defense more than anything. Smoot imparticular excels better in man to man siutations. Towards the end of last season we had success manning teams. Springs has slipped but plays man well enough still and I think the Tryon kid would be an asset playing man as well.

[IMALILTEAPOT]

this defense is giving me a deja vu of a couple of years ago when we let go of marvin lewis and let george edwards run the show. that was the worst defense ive ever seen, hopefully blache wont be a duplicate

[csquared]

Re-read what it says:

DOH!
I swear it must be nice being Cutter. I mean who else gets to be drunk 24-7 and come here and post.....

[akhhorus]

DOH!
I swear it must be nice being Cutter. I mean who else gets to be drunk 24-7 and come here and post.....

Its one thing reading something fast and missing the context or wording, everyone does that. Its quite another to insist that your mistake is still correct, even after the context/exact wording(which says the opposite of what you say it says) is pointed out to you lol.

[Cutter]

Anything productive to add CS? Or do you get off on being on everyone's ignore list?

[akhhorus]

Anything productive to add CS? Or do you get off on being on everyone's ignore list?

So, since you're in opposite land: this means you like c2's post?



And if he was on your ignore list, you wouldn't have seen his response, no?

[Red Bear]

So, since you're in opposite land: this means you like c2's post?



And if he was on your ignore list, you wouldn't have seen his response, no?

theres an option to show the posts of people on your ignore list above everyone of their posts without having to remove them from the ignore list

[akhhorus]

theres an option to show the posts of people on your ignore list above everyone of their posts without having to remove them from the ignore list

Oh, I know, but it totally defeats the purpose of the ignore list lol.

[Red Bear]

Oh, I know, but it totally defeats the purpose of the ignore list lol.

in most instances yeah haha, but ive had to use that option a couple of times.

[Cutter]

CS is not on my ignore list yet. He broke straight to a personal attack and added absolutely nothing of value to the thread. So far on any board I've only ever put one person on "ignore". I bet he's stilly wondering why I never reply. Anyway, I've seen how a lot of threads here turn into noise. Ignoring people filters it out. I hope I'm not motivated to ignore more people.

[akhhorus]

CS is not on my ignore list yet. He broke straight to a personal attack and added absolutely nothing of value to the thread. So far on any board I've only ever put one person on "ignore". I bet he's stilly wondering why I never reply. Anyway, I've seen how a lot of threads here turn into noise. Ignoring people filters it out. I hope I'm not motivated to ignore more people.

Oh no, Cutter will ignore list you if you dare to criticize him lol. Did that work for you with those "stuck up DC women" who kept shooting you down? lmao.


So, back on topic: are you still clinging to your mistaken notion that Blache is a mad blitzer when the article says the total opposite? Or are you not going to attempt a coherent answer and try to play the victim...again. C2 at least was humorous in lampooning you in your stubbornness to deal with reality lol.

[csquared]

CS is not on my ignore list yet. He broke straight to a personal attack and added absolutely nothing of value to the thread. So far on any board I've only ever put one person on "ignore". I bet he's stilly wondering why I never reply. Anyway, I've seen how a lot of threads here turn into noise. Ignoring people filters it out. I hope I'm not motivated to ignore more people.

I could care less if you ignore me. I wont ignore you because i know when i come in here every day if i need a laugh to read your posts. Nothing constructive to add to the thread because i READ the link and UNDERSTAND what it said.

[Cutter]

Are you saying "mad blitzer" implies "cover 2"?

[fent]

Are you saying "mad blitzer" implies "cover 2"?

i think what he's saying is he would hate to have your SAT reading comprehension scores.

[akhhorus]

Are you saying "mad blitzer" implies "cover 2"?

Why don't you understand what putting "n't" after a word means? The article says he wasn't a mad blitzer. That means blache is not a mad blitzer. I don't know how to make this any simpler for you.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

Why don't you understand what putting "n't" after a word means? The article says he wasn't a mad blitzer. That means blache is not a mad blitzer. I don't know how to make this any simpler for you.

I can't believe we are still here a day and a half later.

[joethefan]

Sellers had possibly one to two good carries all of last year and I can't recall any for Rock. In all likelihood, none of these 3 will get any important serious durations at rb but you never know. However I do believe Mason has untapped potential and the coaching staff needs to explore that thoroughly. I like the idea of a new coach how that creates excellent competition at all spots.

I would love to see mason get more of a serious look this year....I think he could be a serious diamond....

[Cutter]

Okay... I'm a douchebag on this one. How'd I miss those two letters? I must have seen what I wanted to see.

Back to not having any confidence in what manifestation our defense will take.

[Cutter]

Moving on! Yesterday they did WR/TE:
http://www.washtimes.com/news/2008/jul/16/training-camp-countdown-87599942/

He sees the WR roster as:
Moss
ARE
Kelly
Thomas
Mix or Thrash

And he says Expect Jim Zorn to use Moss and Cooley extensively early in the season. Campbell trusts both players

Anyone think that's an inaccurate statement?

[Red Bear]

Moving on! Yesterday they did WR/TE:
http://www.washtimes.com/news/2008/jul/16/training-camp-countdown-87599942/

He sees the WR roster as:
Moss
ARE
Kelly
Thomas
Mix or Thrash

And he says

Anyone think that's an inaccurate statement?

to be honest, if i was campbell, i dont think i would have much trust in moss after last season, there is no chemistry there it appears. him and campbell never really seemed to be on the same page. either moss would drop the pass or campbell would overthrow santana on the deep routes. now maybe an offseason of both guys being healthy and working together can improve their chemistry, im hoping so. Its different with cooley though, he has had chemistry with every QB he has worked with, even patrick ramsey...

[Redskin4Life]

Moving on! Yesterday they did WR/TE:
http://www.washtimes.com/news/2008/jul/16/training-camp-countdown-87599942/

He sees the WR roster as:
Moss
ARE
Kelly
Thomas
Mix or Thrash

And he says

Anyone think that's an inaccurate statement?
If the Times said:
Expect Jim Zorn to use Randle-El and Cooley extensively early in the season. Campbell trusts both players
... I would believe them whole-heartedly. It seemed like Campbell and ARE were on the same page right out of the gate.