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SkinsfaninNJ
07-23-2008, 01:44 PM
So says Michael Silver of Yahoo sports. I really can't disagree with him. I think he has generally conducted himself since Gibbs arrival as I would want any owner of my team to conduct himself.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ms-ownersrankingsparttwo072308&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

LadyNRedskinsfan
07-23-2008, 01:51 PM
Is it wrong that this :imshock: was my immediate reaction when ready this article? Lol.

greatest2
07-23-2008, 01:55 PM
i don't see how rooney can only be in the teens, thats ridiculous and makes me look at this list with skepticism even with synder near the top. i can see jones being high, but not higher then rooney kraft or snyder. Jones will do anything to win, but he doesn't do everything for his players like snyder does, and rooney has more rings/wins, kraft has a existing dynasty only getting better.

I think snyder should be 2 or three behind only rooney/kraft. Jones should be just behind snyder.

I have always said Snyder is the Best owner in the NFL but the worst GM in the NFL. as soon as he stops getting in the way of the GM and stuff, then he will move from 3 to 1 in my opinion

chrisbcbu
07-23-2008, 02:18 PM
Dont clean your glasses, rub your eyes or clean you computer screen. This is what they are really saying!

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Ak6cg8ssYxAwT_hfV3mpMGI5nYcB?slug=ms-ownersrankingsparttwo072308&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
3. Washington Redskins – Daniel Snyder: When most fans hear Snyder’s name, they blurt out words to describe him that might not be suitable for network television. Here’s the first one that comes to my mind: Awesome. Snyder generates revenue like a money-printing machine (his team ranks first in the NFL, at a reported $312 million, and is also atop the league in sponsorship dollars), happily spends it to improve his franchise and makes his players – you know, the ones who destroy their bodies on Sundays for the pleasure of the masses – feel pampered and appreciated. He is the closest thing to former 49ers boss Eddie DeBartolo, and eventually he’ll get the rings to prove it.


What went down Sunday at Redskins Park tells you all you need to know about Snyder’s ownership style. While attending the Skins’ first practice of training camp, Snyder and executive vice president Vinny Cerrato winced as veteran defensive Phillip Daniels went down with a knee injury. On their way to lunch in the cafeteria, they learned that Daniels had suffered a season-ending torn ACL. After sitting down with coach Jim Zorn and defensive coordinator Greg Blache, they began discussing their options. “I want to win,” Snyder told the group. “Let’s do what we have to do to win.” Concluding that disgruntled Dolphins defensive end Jason Taylor was by far the best player they’d have a chance to acquire, Snyder gave the go-ahead to make a trade. Before finishing his meal Cerrato was on the phone with Parcells, Miami’s executive vice president of football operations, discussing a trade for the 2006 NFL defensive player of the year. By that evening the deal was done, with Washington giving up second- and sixth-round draft picks, and Snyder agreeing to shell out $16 million over two years, the remaining money on Taylor’s contract. Because of Snyder’s aggressive approach, the ‘Skins were able to acquire Taylor before their NFC East rivals, the Giants, could work out a three-way trade with the Dolphins and Saints that would have sent Taylor to New Orleans for second- and fifth-round picks, followed by a swap of Taylor for tight end Jeremy Shockey.


Upon the trade’s completion, Snyder sent his private jet to pick up Taylor’s wife and children in the Dallas area; it then flew to South Florida to collect the newest Redskins player and transport him to training camp. That’s the same jet that, last December, whisked quarterback Todd Collins up to Boston in time to join his wife (who’d been induced into emergency labor) before she gave birth to the couple’s son. After Hurricane Katrina Snyder flew tight end Robert Royal to New Orleans to collect his family, who hopped aboard the jet and returned to Northern Virginia. And last December he chartered a 747 to fly the entire team to slain safety Sean Taylor’s funeral in Miami. That move wasn’t about winning; it was about doing the right thing. When Snyder finally hoists the Lombardi Trophy one of these years, it might be worth biting your tongue – at least in front of the kids.

LadyNRedskinsfan
07-23-2008, 02:24 PM
Threads Merged.

InsomniaKiller
07-23-2008, 08:55 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ms-ownersrankingsparttwo072308&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

When most fans hear Snyder’s name, they blurt out words to describe him that might not be suitable for network television. Here’s the first one that comes to my mind: Awesome.

Just a hunch that some regulars here will strongly disagree. No denying that the guy really wants to win, though.

Chief Redskin
07-23-2008, 09:20 PM
Whenever I think of Snyder's performance as the owner of the Redskins, I compare him to Jack Kent Cooke. Unfortunately, Snyder is no comparison to Cooke.

Like Snyder, Jack Kent Cooke was willing to spend money to win. However, Jack hired competent people to manage the Redskins and did his best not to interfere.

In contrast, Snyder gets personally involved with the operations of the team. Allegedly, Snyder has bullied his coaches, players, Redskins staff, and even his nanny.

Not to mention, the ultimate "yes-man", Vinny Cerrato who serves as a fake General Manager. Cooke had Bobby Bethard and Charley Casserly.

Jack Kent Cooke had more important things going on in his business life than to meddle in the Redskins everyday operations. For example, he owned the Chrysler Building, cable TV stations, newspapers, the Lakers, and chased Bolivian coke dealers.

I have to admit Snyder has shown restraint since hiring Joe Gibbs. Moreover, I would much rather have an owner who is willing to spend money to win, than have an owner who was cheap and content with losing. However, I think it’s a stretch to say Snyder is the third best owner in the NFL. More importantly, he doesn't come close to reaching the expectations left by Jack Kent Cooke.

InsomniaKiller
07-23-2008, 09:24 PM
I apologize, I somehow missed the other thread!

Please merge.

(sorry.)

dj_stouty
07-23-2008, 09:34 PM
I apologize, I somehow missed the other thread!

Please merge.

(sorry.)

No worries.

Merged.

redskin_rich
07-23-2008, 10:16 PM
i don't see how rooney can only be in the teens, thats ridiculous and makes me look at this list with skepticism even with synder near the top. i can see jones being high, but not higher then rooney kraft or snyder. Jones will do anything to win, but he doesn't do everything for his players like snyder does, and rooney has more rings/wins, kraft has a existing dynasty only getting better.

I think snyder should be 2 or three behind only rooney/kraft. Jones should be just behind snyder.

I have always said Snyder is the Best owner in the NFL but the worst GM in the NFL. as soon as he stops getting in the way of the GM and stuff, then he will move from 3 to 1 in my opinion
Kraft threatened to move his team to Connecticut before he got his new stadium. Rooney has always been a cheapskate and is now selling his share of the Steelers. Snyder and Jones are both meddlers but even Snyder doesn't have the ego of Jones.

That whole list is a joke, best owner in the NFL is like a tallest pygmy contest.

smoak
07-24-2008, 07:06 AM
I agree there is a TON to like about lil Dan...

But here is why I have no hope that we'll ever with with him:

“I want to win,” Snyder told the group. “Let’s do what we have to do to win.” Concluding that disgruntled Dolphins defensive end Jason Taylor was by far the best player they’d have a chance to acquire, Snyder gave the go-ahead to make a trade.

Patrick
07-24-2008, 07:50 AM
I agree there is a TON to like about lil Dan...

But here is why I have no hope that we'll ever with with him:

I seen a change over his ownership (football operations side) approach the last few seasons. Probably the Gibbs influence no doubt. Maybe he's growing and learning. It still remains to be see if this last move was a step in the right direction or not.
Totally understand your view point though ...........

Patrick
07-24-2008, 07:54 AM
OH ......... and one follow up.
He probably move up a knotch if he could do something about FedEx, stadium infrastructure, and staying away from the "Hollywood" connection.

redskin_rich
07-24-2008, 08:29 AM
I agree there is a TON to like about lil Dan...

But here is why I have no hope that we'll ever with with him:

I don't think there is much to like about him but I don't see anything wrong with that quote.

smoak
07-24-2008, 10:09 AM
I seen a change over his ownership (football operations side) approach the last few seasons. Probably the Gibbs influence no doubt. Maybe he's growing and learning. It still remains to be see if this last move was a step in the right direction or not.
Totally understand your view point though ...........

100% agree! There has been significant change, but I am just so frustrated that I can't bring myself to be optimistic... I just wish that article had said that Vinnie & Zorn made the call b/c it feels like Danny is still the Puppet Master. Pure and simple he is not a football guy. He has a lot of admirable qualities, but I don't put football knowledge up there.

smoak
07-24-2008, 10:14 AM
I don't think there is much to like about him but I don't see anything wrong with that quote.


I don't want my owner making the "day to day" calls on the team. I wish he'd trust Vinnie/Zorn and step away.

redskin_rich
07-24-2008, 10:28 AM
I don't want my owner making the "day to day" calls on the team. I wish he'd trust Vinnie/Zorn and step away.

You don't expect any owner in the league to be privy to such a big move, bringing in an $8Mil per year player? And the quote doesn't at all give me the presumption that Snyder called Vinny and Zorn into his office and said "Go get Jason Taylor, now!"

skin4ever
07-24-2008, 10:30 AM
I agree there is a TON to like about lil Dan...

But here is why I have no hope that we'll ever with with him:

Quote:
“I want to win,” Snyder told the group. “Let’s do what we have to do to win.” Concluding that disgruntled Dolphins defensive end Jason Taylor was by far the best player they’d have a chance to acquire, Snyder gave the go-ahead to make a trade.


While i agree i wouldnt like an owner who is a day to day meddler, I am pretty sure, Zorn and Cerrato were in on this trade, Dan is the man who signs the paychecks and JT salary is a whopper, I would think most owners give the final go ahead on something like this. I actually like the fact that Dan wants to win, and i think more than not, Skins fans like the move for taylor given the bind we were in. A lot of owners wouldnt ahve done it, like the bills owner.

I also think he has come a long way since he became the owner and he is learning who a good owner is and what is the owners role with a franchise. Thats not to say, he wont mess it all up, on a whim, but i think he knows the fans have been tormented long enough with his fantasy football tactics and want a team that has continued successs rather than a one hit wonder. Afterall, winning sells tickets and merchandise more than anything else.

AliBabba
07-24-2008, 10:34 AM
You don't expect any owner in the league to be privy to such a big move, bringing in an $8Mil per year player? And the quote doesn't at all give me the presumption that Snyder called Vinny and Zorn into his office and said "Go get Jason Taylor, now!"
i agree Rich, I read it as they went to him to present what they thought was the best deal and his attitude was if its gonna help us win do it. That's one of the few good things a/b the Danny

BandWagon
07-24-2008, 10:01 PM
There's two surveys I'd love to see to put this into full perspective One would be the stadium/fan experience survey that was run earlier this year. I'd love to see how our fan experience rates versus how the other fans rate theirs. Second, I'd like to see an employee satisfaction survey from each of the owners. I'd bet my second born we're not third in either one of those...

superskin
07-24-2008, 10:35 PM
My favorite part:

He is the closest thing to former 49ers boss Eddie DeBartolo, and eventually he’ll get the rings to prove it.


From his pen to God's ears.

Nomad
07-24-2008, 11:22 PM
Let's see, owned the team roughly a decade, 1 division title shortly after purchasing it basically with the players from the previous regime, no division titles since, no SB rings, no deep playoff runs, Skins perennial leader in dead cap money, more dumb trades than any team in football, GM no other team would hire in a parallel position, a new coaching regime basically every year except the Gibbs era.

Yep, definitely a top-3 owner.

I'll give him marketing saavy, but I hardly call it genius. You pack the stadium like the fans are sardines, pimp everything out with advertising until the stadium is a heartless, soulless husk of its former self, and price every beer and snack like crude oil, charge parking rates appropriate for a helicopter landing pad, then go after anyone like local parking establishments who try to keep people from paying these prices. That's the way its done, fine, but this is hardly "genius"--shameless gouging in the mold of gilded age Robber Barons might be a more accurate term.

In some ways, the huge profit is testament to his incompetence. He has an insanely loyal fanbase that will & does pay anything he charges, that is much more affluent than other fanatical fan bases like Green Bay, he has more money to spend than any owner, and we still fail year after year.

Until he does hoist the Lombardi, or at least win the division once, what is he doing in the top 10? I'm glad he's trying, and I believe he wants to win, but how can anyone look at our record, and on-field performance since he bought the team, and goat rodeo of a front office, and even put us in the top 10?

Is A+ for effort all it takes?

WarEagle
07-25-2008, 12:09 AM
I think that the writer must have been impressed with the way Dan conducted himself after Sean was killed. He was on the national stage during that time and made me proud. He really rose in my estimation, although I still have issues with his outside businesses and the way fans are subject to highway robbery at FedEx.

When the Rooneys get out of the gambling racket then they'll rise in the ratings. That just ain't kosher.