View Full Version : Colt....The Legend continues....
Dolla Bill
08-16-2008, 10:07 PM
I just want to give a small shout out to Colt. Thanks for the win, but I must say you need to take Goode out to dinner for that catch.
FunBunch5
08-16-2008, 10:13 PM
I just want to give a small shout out to Colt. Thanks for the win, but I must say you need to take Goode out to dinner for that catch.
Goode was making up for that drive stopping drop he had earlier in the game. :inkston:
bergiemoore
08-16-2008, 10:15 PM
Great recognition of the hot read on that play by Brennan. The throw wasn't the prettiest, but it worked.
colkurtz
08-16-2008, 10:19 PM
Colt made a dangerous throw - which went for a TD. I think he will be that sort of gunslinger who will generate TDs or INTs depending on how he is doing. I'd like to see him earlier in the game with a better OL and some real WR who can catch.
I can already see him mechanics getting better - he is sitting lower behind the center. A year under Zorn and holding as clipboard will improve him for next season.
Slobberknocker
08-16-2008, 10:22 PM
Colt made a dangerous throw - which went for a TD. I think he will be that sort of gunslinger who will generate TDs or INTs depending on how he is doing. I'd like to see him earlier in the game with a better OL and some real WR who can catch.
I can already see him mechanics getting better - he is sitting lower behind the center. A year under Zorn and holding as clipboard will improve him for next season.
Screw dangerous. He got it done -- again. Collins plays conservative and I'm sick to death of watching that. Fire away, Colt!
shally
08-16-2008, 10:53 PM
he throws with an ugly motion and he takes chances.. BUT he has guts and is fearless and he just makes things happen
with 2 to 3 years of zorn teaching him i think we might just have something
there is zero reason to keep devine.. after next year, there may be zero reason to keep collins
Dolla Bill
08-16-2008, 10:56 PM
he throws with an ugly motion and he takes chances.. BUT he has guts and is fearless and he just makes things happen
with 2 to 3 years of zorn teaching him i think we might just have something
there is zero reason to keep devine.. after next year, there may be zero reason to keep collins
Eh, after this preseason there might not be a reason to keep Collins. I have no faith that we will have a pass over 5 yards this season if he comes in.
colkurtz
08-16-2008, 10:59 PM
Screw dangerous. He got it done -- again. Collins plays conservative and I'm sick to death of watching that. Fire away, Colt!
Hey, I agree. I like watching Colt play and he makes things happen. I'd rather give him play time to him this pre-season because he has a big upside. He plays to score TDs.
Collins is just here for this season and then will be gone. He's looked just like a space-filler so far this PS. He plays not to be intercepted -that's the difference.
shally
08-16-2008, 11:05 PM
Eh, after this preseason there might not be a reason to keep Collins. I have no faith that we will have a pass over 5 yards this season if he comes in.
uh, no... if you want to make the case that we could pickup someone like mccown or another potential number 2 who has league experience, then i am okay with that..
but there is no way i feel okay about going with JC and colt and devine..
JC is not favre or peyton, who have proved they can go a season taking every snap. we need a vet number 2 for this year, at least...
shally
08-16-2008, 11:06 PM
Hey, I agree. I like watching Colt play and he makes things happen. I'd rather give him play time to him this pre-season because he has a big upside. He plays to score TDs.
Collins is just here for this season and then will be gone. He's looked just like a space-filler so far this PS. He plays not to be intercepted -that's the difference.
exactly.. he is a one year insurance policy-- off of his relief performance last year...
Slobberknocker
08-16-2008, 11:10 PM
If Jason goes down at any time this year, I'd still rather have Colt come in -- esp. if it's long term. He might as well get better sooner than later. Either way, our year would be done.
Collins needs Saunders and Saunder needs Collins. He ain't no West Coast QB.
Dolla Bill
08-16-2008, 11:34 PM
uh, no... if you want to make the case that we could pickup someone like mccown or another potential number 2 who has league experience, then i am okay with that..
but there is no way i feel okay about going with JC and colt and devine..
JC is not favre or peyton, who have proved they can go a season taking every snap. we need a vet number 2 for this year, at least...
I'm not drinking from the Colt Kool-Aid (TM), but I just have no faith in TC at all. I do say that it was a mistake to sign him long term, and we should of gone another route. I know it would be a mistake to go with Colt and Devine. Both whom have zero games starting experience.
TC should of gone with Saunders with STL, but we're stuck with him. Colt solidified himself as the 3rd QB, and Devine? Well, from here on out, he's showcasing for some other team.
skinsfan36
08-16-2008, 11:34 PM
colt making another play. im really liking his confidence to thread the needle
Red Bear
08-16-2008, 11:56 PM
colt was fortunate goode bailed him out with an athletic catch. the ball was thrown right at the defensive player and goode reached out and snatched from in front of him. im not convinced it was a bad decision to throw that ball, but it was definately a bad throw as far as accuracy. zorn got to see colt in exactly the situation he wanted to though. losing late in the game and needing a TD to win. i think we should go ahead and cut devine now. he has been anything but impressive. he probably wont see the field at carolina as the starters will play longer than normal and the first round of roster cuts are in about 10 days or so anyways
Farmer Ted
08-17-2008, 12:06 AM
he throws with an ugly motion and he takes chances.. BUT he has guts and is fearless and he just makes things happen
with 2 to 3 years of zorn teaching him i think we might just have something
It makes me want to hurl to say it, but he could be another romo in 2-3 years (minus the Gomer Pyle under-bite).
shally
08-17-2008, 12:21 AM
It makes me want to hurl to say it, but he could be another romo in 2-3 years (minus the Gomer Pyle under-bite).
not unless he has an arm transplant.. romo has light years a better arm .. but the comparison might otherwise be apt in 3 years.. nobody thought squat about romo being anything more than a 3rd stringer for years...
Skins-fo-life
08-17-2008, 01:09 AM
The most important thing about Colt to me is that he seems to have a natural feel for the game, which enables him to make plays. His mechanics are horrible and his throwing motion is just different, but he makes it works. I would like to see him play in a big game and play with the 1st team Offense, but that won't happen for a while. If anyone thinks Devine would have taken the team down the field in 4 plays let me know. I would like to have some of what your smoking. LOL
redskin_rich
08-17-2008, 01:19 AM
I was no fan of drafting Colt and I still think he is a couple years from being starting material but that is better than I originally thought. He is our 3rd stringer, no question and not another pre-season play should be wasted on Devine.
And no doubt, Goode made a great play on a poorly placed pass but I like the confidence Colt has and it has to be remembered that he is playing with the scrubs.
shally
08-17-2008, 01:20 AM
The most important thing about Colt to me is that he seems to have a natural feel for the game, which enables him to make plays. His mechanics are horrible and his throwing motion is just different, but he makes it works. I would like to see him play in a big game and play with the 1st team Offense, but that won't happen for a while. If anyone thinks Devine would have taken the team down the field in 4 plays let me know. I would like to have some of what your smoking. LOL
and he is ACCURATE... the throw to goode was right on the money, even in the face of a blitz.. i think that is one of the most important qualities for a qb to have-- especially in a WCO... the ball has to be exactly where it needs to be, on time when it has to be there.. you dont have to have the strongest arm, but if you are not accurate, you arent going to be productive
and i dont think the ball to goode was poorly placed.. it was just out of reach of the defender and goode had the only shot at it..
the reason colt played last was that zorn wanted to see what he could do with a 2 minute offense.. not much more to say other than he converted as well as anyone could have hoped... devine gets 4th place work from here on out... the last game should be half and half with colt and collins ( JC gets a series and that is about it.. next week JC gets a half).. collins really looks like he needs the work right now
Skins-fo-life
08-17-2008, 01:27 AM
and he is ACCURATE... the throw to goode was right on the money, even in the face of a blitz.. i think that is one of the most important qualities for a qb to have-- especially in a WCO... the ball has to be exactly where it needs to be, on time when it has to be there.. you dont have to have the strongest arm, but if you are not accurate, you arent going to be productive
and i dont think the ball to goode was poorly placed.. it was just out of reach of the defender and goode had the only shot at it..
Yes he is Accurate as well. I know its still so early to tell but is there the possibility that Colt may have been the steal of the draft. I love JC, but this kid has impressed from day 1. Way it looks right now is that if JC goes down i hope Colt comes in. Collins just isn't getting it done right now.
akhhorus
08-17-2008, 01:27 AM
The skins should play him....whenever we face 3rd stringers.
redskin_rich
08-17-2008, 01:37 AM
The skins should play him....whenever we face 3rd stringers.
Exactly. He has won that and only that. That is all there is for him right now and I didn't think he could do that. I was wrong.
After a year of practice running the scout offense, against our 1st team defense, he may very well contend for the 2nd string spot. Heck, I'd bet he gets it in '09 right now.
This was a good draft pick. One way or another, it will provide value that we haven't seen in a long time.
Patrick
08-17-2008, 07:52 AM
Exactly. He has won thats and only that. That is all there is for him right now and I didn't think he could do that. I was wrong.
After a year of practice running the scout offense, against our 1st team defense, he may very well contend for the 2nd string spot. Heck, I'd bet he gets it in '09 right now.
This was a good draft pick. One way or another, it will provide value that we haven't seen in a long time.
AND at this point thats all the Skins can ask for. There's a chance that the entire draft class makes this team (including practice squad) and to me that's impressive. Colt was a GREAT pickup in the 6th round as a project QB.
There have been QBs in the past that the Skins have drafted that COULDN'T even play against 3rd stringers.
CarMike
08-17-2008, 09:36 AM
The skins should play him....whenever we face 3rd stringers.
akh, I understand what you're saying but the one thing you have to say about Colt is that he puts the ball in a place for it to be caught. Regardless of what string of players he's playing. His TD pass last night wasn't a good pass, I'll admit. But for the most part he's been pretty accurate.
And he's better tan Devine at this point in time.
Hr fan
08-17-2008, 10:44 AM
Colt has intangibles, and he picks up the team on the field, 3rd string or not. His accuracy has generally been good, and Madden praised him more than once for NFL level throws. Zorn wanted him for his accuracy.
Get rid of Collins? Only if a seasoned QB is available, preferably with WCO experience. Colt is a project, and no more than that at this point. But he is showing a winner's attitude that is becoming infectious to his teammates. Looking at Brohm, etc. IMO at this point we have better winner if not a better QB.
akhhorus
08-17-2008, 01:12 PM
akh, I understand what you're saying but the one thing you have to say about Colt is that he puts the ball in a place for it to be caught. Regardless of what string of players he's playing. His TD pass last night wasn't a good pass, I'll admit. But for the most part he's been pretty accurate.
And he's better tan Devine at this point in time.
Thats not saying much.
He's very accurate, but he's a gunslinger without the arm to pull it off. He's still a long term development project, he has to either change how he throws so that he generates more power or he has to stop thinking he can beat safeties with his seam throws.
Homer07
08-17-2008, 03:35 PM
If it's so easy to beat 3rd stringers, why isn't Flacco doing it? You beat whom you're up against. Can't do anything more.
We won't know what Brennan can do against starters until he starts.
jtovb2005
08-17-2008, 04:01 PM
This is what I look forward to preseason for, finding the young guys that make things happen when they are in there. We seem to have a few of those this preseason.
I don't think we make Colt number 2 here at all but we seem to have a potential long term keeper.
LASkin
08-17-2008, 05:55 PM
ex-Cleveland Browns Pro Bowl QB, one of the best of his era. Nobody could figure out how he did it with a similar awful throwing motion, yet he was one of the most accurate QBs of his era. One summer in the '90s Sports Illustrated did a story on some meeting of the great QBs of the day, which were together for some reason or other. They hung a tire from a tree, swung it, and asked QBs to throw the ball through the hole. The only one who could make the throw was Kosar - not Elway (although he probably blew up the tire), nor anyone else.
On the other hand, Kosar stopped being effective when his OL faltered and teams started blitzing like crazy. He just couldn't get the ball over the DL because of the sidearm motion unless he had good protection.
WarEagle
08-17-2008, 07:12 PM
Colt has intangibles, and he picks up the team on the field, 3rd string or not. His accuracy has generally been good, and Madden praised him more than once for NFL level throws. Zorn wanted him for his accuracy.
Get rid of Collins? Only if a seasoned QB is available, preferably with WCO experience. Colt is a project, and no more than that at this point. But he is showing a winner's attitude that is becoming infectious to his teammates. Looking at Brohm, etc. IMO at this point we have better winner if not a better QB.
I hope Colt is a Redskin for a long time. Will be fun to watch Zorn tame and refine him. This is the same feeling that fans had for Flutie. A low bubbling of man love.
I'd like to see the Redskins play a preseason game in Hawaii next season. The place would sell out.
CarMike
08-17-2008, 07:27 PM
Thats not saying much.
He's very accurate, but he's a gunslinger without the arm to pull it off. He's still a long term development project, he has to either change how he throws so that he generates more power or he has to stop thinking he can beat safeties with his seam throws.
I can agree with that. His mechanics are horrible. But if he can keep making plays, I'd be happy for him to be our #3 QB.
Death_Venom
08-17-2008, 10:01 PM
This infatuation with Brennan is starting to echo the sentiments of Tim Hasselback.........LOL
Brennana needs time to adjust and time to work his throwing mechanics. He does seem to have a very energetic vibe to him tho'.........
Red Bear
08-17-2008, 10:53 PM
and i dont think the ball to goode was poorly placed.. it was just out of reach of the defender and goode had the only shot at it..
sorry but i totally disagree, the ball was off the mark and would of been intercepted hadnt goode made a great play on the ball. the ball was thrown right at the defender and had the defender broke on it instead of squatting and waiting for it he gets a pick. colt is known to have good accuracy but saying that throw was on the money is taking it a bit too far
higgybaby
08-17-2008, 11:25 PM
Colt has had 2 throws that I can remember this pre-season, that absolutely should not had been thrown and should have been interceptions. But I like the guy, he is where he needs to be as a 3rd stringer. Get some seasoning work on his base and develop some more arm strength either through mechanics or whatever. I do think that if you change him too much though, you won't see the same kind of confidence that is making him successful right now. Hope i'm wrong and he turns out to be the next Montana.:)
colkurtz
08-18-2008, 08:46 AM
Colt is a project player. That's what you get with a round six draft pick.
His mechanics are whack - but I saw some improvement in his stance. If there's one guy who can work with Brennan then it's Zorn.
I find him fun to watch with and against the players who may only make the practice squad. He's just one of those QB's who finds a way to score. He may never start or be anything but a journeyman QB in the NFL but at least he's interesting.
I'd rather watch him than Collins any day.......
AGibbsGirl
08-18-2008, 08:59 AM
I found it interesting that Theisman was comparing him to Farve with that weird throwing technique, his poise and "When you got it, you got it" quote
I also find it terribly amusing that for every accolade that the fans/media give Colt, Zorn comes back with the complete shut down. Zorn is always quick to point out the problems with Colt. I suppose it's to keep the kid's ego in check.
I enjoyed watching the drive. Aloha Joe did say that that was what he had trained for all week, so I was happy to hear that he was executing the game plan.
warpaint
08-18-2008, 09:08 AM
sorry but i totally disagree, the ball was off the mark and would of been intercepted hadnt goode made a great play on the ball. the ball was thrown right at the defender and had the defender broke on it instead of squatting and waiting for it he gets a pick. colt is known to have good accuracy but saying that throw was on the money is taking it a bit too far
maybe "the colt" has a horse shoe on his arm reason for all the luck, have always heard better to be lucky than "goode"
redwolf1218
08-28-2008, 11:11 PM
maybe "the colt" has a horse shoe on his arm reason for all the luck, have always heard better to be lucky than "goode"
how many drops did yall count tonight? i counted at least 3. he makes things happen. i know it's against the 3rd and 4th stringers, but i really think he will be good in this offense in the near future.
Charlz
08-28-2008, 11:25 PM
Can you say Babe Laufenberg?
redwolf1218
08-28-2008, 11:26 PM
Can you say Babe Laufenberg?
ahhhh the basis for the movie "The Replacements".
Senators
08-28-2008, 11:29 PM
How about Heath Shuler?
redwolf1218
08-28-2008, 11:31 PM
How about Heath Shuler?
Welcome.
what does Heath Shuler have to do with anything?
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