a ramsey believer

[jsarno]

I've got to say...Ramsey is looking impressive. Amazing courage in the pocket! He is making me a believer!!!!!
He looked like a seasoned vet...including learning his lesson from the 4 fumbles from the first two games. When the pressure got there he protected the ball. VERY IMPRESSIVE. It's a shame we had 9 dropped balls.

[PennSkinsFan]

and 17 penalties

[Patrick]

9 dropped passes - UFB. There has to be a reason why - does Patrick throw with too much zip?

[rskinsfan10]

As already stated by Patrick, UFB!!!!

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

its funny because before the season, other fans and some football analysts were saying well what good is getting laveranues coles if he has no one to throw to him.......now after week 3, we have the #1 ranked offense in the league and our qb and wr lead the league in yards.....

[skinswin'emALL]

I know from playing myself, that a team can get a case of "the droppsies" It's awful and you can't seem to shake it. Even your best player can help but come down with it.

the only thing you can do is try to play through it and hope you have built up an amunity to it, so it doesn't happen to you (and hopefully happens to the other team next time it "drops" by.:)

[Skinsfan4dad]

I have also been very impressed with Patrick this year he has shown alot of maturity and has seemed very cool in the pocket. I was amazed at how he handled a bad snap late in the game yesterday and never missed a beat. And how about that run up the middle.

[Spence]

Originally posted by Patrick
9 dropped passes - UFB. There has to be a reason why - does Patrick throw with too much zip? Hard to understand. Ramsey whips the ball in there, but they do catch most of them. I'd blame lack of concentration by the receivers, if I had to guess. A few seem to spend as much time jawing at cornerbacks as they do looking for a catch. We've got a very talented receiving corps. They need to do their talking with their play. I notice Laveranues Coles, who has dropped a few, does manage to play without taunting the other team. If he can do it, why can't Gardner and McCants do the same?

[lakewinola]

Ramsey has been impressive this season, remember it is very early in his career, Gus as you recall started with the same cool and confidence in the pocket. Hopefully Ramsey is the real deal.

[hail2skins]

Coles dropped one that he had. When he bought it down, it hit his knee. Gardner dropped one that was in his chest.

[jsarno]

Not only am I very impressed with Ramsey, McCants is showing me a thing or two as well.
I just thought of McCants more of an after thought...but did you see some of his catches? And that one handed grab? Amazing.

[hail2skins]

Yes, it's his size and they were creating some mismatches with him. I believe it was DJ who said he would be used in goalline stances and he was correct.

[PennSkinsFan]

Was not Prisco a Ramsey doubter????

Here is his latest Ramsey comment;

"Washington lost a game, but Patrick Ramsey showed for the second consecutive week he is going to be tough to defend. Ramsey showed a lot of poise in rallying the Redskins to tie the Giants before losing in overtime. Ramsey finished with 348 yards passing with two touchdowns. He will put up big numbers this season. "

[CarMike]

Originally posted by lakewinola
Ramsey has been impressive this season, remember it is very early in his career, Gus as you recall started with the same cool and confidence in the pocket. Hopefully Ramsey is the real deal.

Lake, there is a big difference between Ramsey and Frerrote. Frerrote was a after thought since we drafted Shuler in the first round. Gus came in without any pressure on himself. He was a fan favorite after Heath held out during preseason.

Patrick on the other hand held out of preseason like Shuler did. But....Ramsey has proved to be the real deal so far. And he has a ton of pressure on his shoulders. Still, he has shown that he'll be our QB for a long time....

[hail2skins]

People are calling Ramsey a 2nd year QB. In my mind he's still a first year QB.

[jsarno]

he's 100% a second year QB...let's not forget the VALUABLE experience he got watching Wuerffel and Matthews. Say what you want about their talent, but both are smart and know the Spurrier system. I'm sure that is the reason that Ramsey is flourishing thus far.

[hail2skins]

There's nothing like game experience. You can sit on the sideline and learn alot. Applying what you learned is the tough part. You don't get the feel and speed of the game on the sideline. You don't read the defense and audible on the sidelines. Yes, it's good to learn it first but that's only half of it.

I think the reason he's flourishing is due to all the time and hard work he put in in the offseason. All those meetings and coaching sessions.

[jsarno]

AND all those times he was thrusted into the line up last year!

[hail2skins]

What six out of sixteen games. Coming in to throw hailmary's because those other smart QB's didn't have arms.

[jsarno]

He started a few, and got valuable NFL experience...come on...you know that.

[hail2skins]

Yes a few doesn't equate to a full season to me which is why I say in my mind, he's still a 1st year QB.

[jsarno]

hahahaha....only in your mind I guess. To me...he got time on the field, and had lots of time to learn by watching. (which truely is the best way to learn the NFL system)
He's had an advantage others don't get!

[hail2skins]

and your point is with the "hahahahaha...only in your mind I guess" comment? I said in my mind which means my opinion. I'm entitled to my opinion just like you're entitled to yours. Do you have a problem with people not agreeing with everything you type on this board because it seems like you do.

Oh, I forgot that you can see things that others on this board can't. That's all fine and dandy but don't get bent out of shape because people don't agree with you.

[Minnesota Mike]

Originally posted by hail2skins
People are calling Ramsey a 2nd year QB. In my mind he's still a first year QB.

If he keeps getting knocked around back there, he might be a retired QB before the end of his 2nd year.

Sometimes I wonder how much better he would be if he got to play more last year. Other times I wonder if he could walk if he got to play more last year. I'm glad he got some experience and he escaped unbroken. Hopefully the same can be said at the end of this season.

[jsarno]

Originally posted by hail2skins
and your point is with the "hahahahaha...only in your mind I guess" comment? I said in my mind which means my opinion. I'm entitled to my opinion just like you're entitled to yours. Do you have a problem with people not agreeing with everything you type on this board because it seems like you do.

Oh, I forgot that you can see things that others on this board can't. That's all fine and dandy but don't get bent out of shape because people don't agree with you.

Take it easy killer. What does hahaha mean to you? It pretty much means that I'm not in a serious mood...it's a joking like comment. Why else would it be there? If I thought you were a moron for thinking so, I would have already said it.

[skinswin'emALL]

Originally posted by jsarno
he's 100% a second year QB...let's not forget the VALUABLE experience he got watching Wuerffel and Matthews. Say what you want about their talent, but both are smart and know the Spurrier system. I'm sure that is the reason that Ramsey is flourishing thus far.

I'll weigh in middle on this 1st vs 2nd year QB. He did get to learn last year and in the off season which would make him more than a first year QB;

But I would have liked to see him get more game experince last year (at least 4-5 games more) then i would call him 100% 2nd year. My thought (which won't mater to some) - 50/50.

One of the most impressive things about Ram, is the impressive comments he generates from opposing coaches and players. Defenive players don't like to give out a lot of praise unless it's genuine.

[dj_stouty]

Originally posted by hail2skins
Yes, it's his size and they were creating some mismatches with him. I believe it was DJ who said he would be used in goalline stances and he was correct.

I believe you are correct! :D

[skinswin'emALL]

Originally posted by hail2skins
Yes, it's his size and they were creating some mismatches with him. I believe it was DJ who said he would be used in goalline stances and he was correct.

McCants has has size and talent. i just wish he wouldnt act like he's the next coming of TO -- He is not.

Speaking of goal line -- I wish they would not ues trap plays on the goal line. while i beleave the Skins are/will be one of the best trap blocking teams since the 99 Rams I don't like them on the goal line. Just block straight ahead. they have the size and talent.

[Spence]

Well, it isn't just in Mike's mind, it is my mind, too. Ram has started eight games and he's had only one full training camp. To me, that makes him a lot like a rookie. Spurrier didn't pay any attention to Ramsey during the offseason last year because he was so certain his Florida boys would win games for him. The Ol' Ballcoach only realized his mistake when it was too late to salvage the season.

[hail2skins]

Originally posted by jsarno
Take it easy killer. What does hahaha mean to you? It pretty much means that I'm not in a serious mood...it's a joking like comment. Why else would it be there? If I thought you were a moron for thinking so, I would have already said it.

I found it sarcastic, no problem though. As for the name calling (moron as you mentioned), that won't be happening and definately not accepted here.

[Skaggsboy]

A lot of people consider Ramsey a first year player...but in reality a lot of rookies dont even play...ramsey got to start 5 games not to mention play in others plus get a year of watching under his belt...hes way ahead of a rookie player

[rskinsfan10]

Originally posted by PennSkinsFan
Was not Prisco a Ramsey doubter????

Here is his latest Ramsey comment;

"Washington lost a game, but Patrick Ramsey showed for the second consecutive week he is going to be tough to defend. Ramsey showed a lot of poise in rallying the Redskins to tie the Giants before losing in overtime. Ramsey finished with 348 yards passing with two touchdowns. He will put up big numbers this season. "

Well, well well...

[JoeDaSchmoe]

I'll just settle this and declare Ramsey a 1 1/2 year player.

He's looking great out there, so I don't care if he's on social security or in my grade.

[Spearfeather]

Originally posted by JoeDaSchmoe
I'll just settle this and declare Ramsey a 1 1/2 year player.

He's looking great out there, so I don't care if he's on social security or in my grade.

I agree, he's not exactly a first year Quarterback.

It doesn't really matter what you call Ramsey, ... he's just good.

[Spence]

There is no doubt that Ramsey is easily the story of the year, so far, for the Redskins. Nobody should be shocked by Coles. He was a stud last year. He's a stud this year. Ramsey, though---that cat is like a different player. He looks very comfortable during plays. It's before plays, getting them called, when he looks shaky at times. Must be nerve-rattling to have Spurrier barking in your helmet all the time.

[rskinsfan10]

Jets fans are shocked that Coles is putting up numbers without their Pharoah throwing the ball to him.

[skinswin'emALL]

Originally posted by Spence
He looks very comfortable during plays. It's before plays, getting them called, when he looks shaky at times. Must be nerve-rattling to have Spurrier barking in your helmet all the time.

Agreed, maybe they need to change the rule about the speaker in the helmet for Ramsey. The rule is that it's on until 15 sec left on play clock -- because of SS maybe it should be more like 20 or 25 sec.

[Skinsfan1906]

Well, over the years, GARDNER has dropped many balls (no matter WHO was throwing it to him). Yet, he has also made some unbelievable catches also. Go figure. Anyway, I still like Gardner as our #2 WR and believe that Coles/Gardner will be (or at least, should be) better than the Westbrook/Connell combination we had a few years ago, when both WR's had over 1,000 yds. Now if we can get a THIRD WR to step up and get 1,000 yds., THEN we can start the MONK/CLARK/SANDERS comparisons, huh? Well, I dunno.

[Hailyeah]

I'm not going to get into the labeling battle over Ramsey's experience. I did chuckle at the 'easy killer' comment. That was interesting.

Spence, I don't know if Ram is really a different quarterback than last year, just more well versed in the offense and more experienced. His mental toughness, poise, and big play potential were displayed last year during his time on the field. That's why PSF, myself and others had proclaimed him the 2nd coming during the offseason. He's simply tightened up his game, as has Spurrier, and been paired with the remarkable Coles.

[Spence]

Well, I guess that's sort of what I meant, HY. Ramsey makes decisions much quicker and those decisions are better. He's MUCH more mobile than last year and more comfortable moving with the football in his hand. He's more patient with his receivers. All these things are, I suspect, a result of his own natural talent and having a year of Steve Spurrier's uninterrupted attention. The intangibles Ramsey displayed last year are still around, of course. Those things a player has or does not have. Now, though, we get to enjoy those intangibles while watching him throw 20-yard TD passes. Not as much of that last year.

[hail2skins]

Originally posted by Hailyeah
I'm not going to get into the labeling battle over Ramsey's experience. I did chuckle at the 'easy killer' comment. That was interesting.

Spence, I don't know if Ram is really a different quarterback than last year, just more well versed in the offense and more experienced. His mental toughness, poise, and big play potential were displayed last year during his time on the field. That's why PSF, myself and others had proclaimed him the 2nd coming during the offseason. He's simply tightened up his game, as has Spurrier, and been paired with the remarkable Coles.

Well, I wouldn't consider it a battle per se. LOL. Anyway, I'm done with it.

Ramsey will develop into an awesome qb IMHO and if people (Prissco) want to jump on the Ramsey wagon, then so be it. Most of us have been on it already. I've always liked the potential he had and now we're seeing what he's capable of doing.

[Patrick]

OK - my turn. Bottomline, this is Ramsey's second year. Gain some experience last year both as a backup and a starter. Was declared the "The #1 QB" twice last year, the second time finishing the year out with three straight starts. The first time as the #1 starter had a good game against the Titians and was manhandle by the Saints in his second game.
THAT was the best thing to have happen for him. Got a chance to go back, watch, learn, AND evaluate his performance. When he got his chance the second time as the #1 starter, he has been a solid QB that has been improving ever since.
AND hopefully this is ONLY THE BEGINNING of the story!!!!!!

[hail2skins]

Boy if the software handled quotes like the old software did, this would be sweet looking thread. boxes in boxes in boxes.