What Size Contract should the Redskins offer JC?

[Ibleedburgundy]

Currently, JC is in year 4 of his 5 year $20 million contract. Seems to me the question at this point is not if the Redskins will choose to sign him to an extension, but rather when and for how much. He's really starting to show his upside so I'm wondering if the Redskins get the itch to buy relatively low. Of course this is something that will depend heavily on how JC plays for the remainder of the year.

So my question is this, what do you anricipate the Redskins doing about this? Do they go all the way into the 2009 season before we lock him up, or do we take care of this during this season or offseason?

I would hope the Redskins get something done before the start of the 2009 season and I would anticipate Garrard-type money. That is to say, 6 years, $60 million. Seems to me JC has a better upside than Garrard or Romo, but I think Romo is overpaid, and Garrard had a 103.5 passer rating last year which will be a tough act to follow.

What do you think they will do?

[BurgundyNGold]

He's been a top 10 guy this year (currently 4th highest rated passer). I've give him top 10 QB dollars.

[dj_stouty]

It is still too early to make this decision. He is progressing nicely and the Skins will need to see consistancy first before pony'ing up the big bucks.

[Skinz4lyfe]

IF he keeps this up we must re-sign him this off-season. I say dump Marcus Washington (he's getting paid a chunk) and use some of that money to lock up the future of our franchise.

[Death_Venom]

IF he keeps this up we must re-sign him this off-season. I say dump Marcus Washington (he's getting paid a chunk) and use some of that money to lock up the future of our franchise.

MW is/has been done even the announcers were noticing it.

It is still too early to make this decision. He is progressing nicely and the Skins will need to see consistancy first before pony'ing up the big bucks.

I agree w/DJ here-if Campbell ends the season on a high note then we should consider locking him a nice deal............

[RoanokeSkin]

Definitely an off season decision. Provided he continues to grow, then we lock him up during the offseason with a very nice payday.

[BraveHeartFan]

If he continues through this whole season, playing as well as he is now, then he'll be getting a huge deal at some point. I figure somewhere in the same range, if not higher, than the deals that Bulger and Romo signed which were in the 60's. So he's going to wind up due that kind of pay day if he continues playing like he is now through out the course of the year.

[greatest2]

they sign him now, and we are paying for a relative unknown. i know JC is playing out of his mind, but its alot of money and resources and time you put in when you make that commitment. i rather pay a little extra and make sure then save like 10-12 mil. (not my money right:))


I think if he is playing great into the bye week, then its time to do a deal, and hopefully have it sign and delivered by week 12 or 13.

I expect, like you said, Romo type of deal. But i also think it will be a longer deal. think like 6 or 7 year deal around 70mil. that way when they renegotiate and restructure (those wonderful things we do) we can add even more years to that and hopefully JC retires here.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

It is still too early to make this decision. He is progressing nicely and the Skins will need to see consistancy first before pony'ing up the big bucks.

I wholeheartedly agree. Sure, we could potentially get JC cheaper if we signed him to an extension soon, but if he didnt continue to show improvement or backtracked, then we would have alot of salary tied into a QB who couldnt get the job done. On the flip side, if JC ends up being a top3-5QB and we have him signed to a contract making top 10-15 money, JC could get disgruntled, hold out, and ask for more money later on.

If I'm JC or his agent, I wouldnt negotiate an extension now anyways. I would give it AT LEAST until the offseason and perhaps wait mid-way through. JC appears to only be getting better and he will want to maximize his value.

I'd much rather see us extend Rogers ASAP. He's definitely one of the top 10CBs in the league right now.

[guess88]

Should wait a few more games to decide whether to pay him as a top 10 qb first. I'm a believer in him, and I love the relationship him and Zorn are having, but I want to see more consistency. Last night was the first game he didn't seem to flounder at all... a few more games of that and I'm sold. But I agree that it'd be fantastic to lock something up soon. Hate to have this become a pressing issue in the later end or off season.

[jaylen]

I've always been sold on JC, his work ethic and raw talent made me a believer early on. Now that he's getting legit qb coaching from Zorn his technique has cleaned up and the results are showing up on the field.

We can wait though I don't see the contract as a big issue with as long as we've waited for a quality qb here.

[Redskinmayhem]

It is still too early to make this decision. He is progressing nicely and the Skins will need to see consistancy first before pony'ing up the big bucks.

exactly.

[VegasSkinsFan]

$700B......maybe he can learn the economy as quick as the wco.

[Redskin4Life]

Everyone,

I have only one question for you all: Where's the cap space for a new contract?

There's probably going to be talk in during the bye week but Campbell's not going to get a new contract until the offseason.

[shally]

He's been a top 10 guy this year (currently 4th highest rated passer). I've give him top 10 QB dollars.


agree. sounds reasonable

[shally]

Definitely an off season decision. Provided he continues to grow, then we lock him up during the offseason with a very nice payday.


if they wait until the offseason, they may not get him signed so easily because he will be going into his final year without an extension.. it will cost a whole lot more to do it this way (think chris samuels)..

get it done during the year !!!

[greatest2]

Everyone,

I have only one question for you all: Where's the cap space for a new contract?

There's probably going to be talk in during the bye week but Campbell's not going to get a new contract until the offseason.

you extend him. keeping his 2008 salary as it is and increasing 2009 and from there on. JC and agent would go for an extension, thats usually how teams do it. they don't just rip up the contract or inflate the money the current year.

[Ibleedburgundy]

Should wait a few more games to decide whether to pay him as a top 10 qb first. I'm a believer in him, and I love the relationship him and Zorn are having, but I want to see more consistency. Last night was the first game he didn't seem to flounder at all... a few more games of that and I'm sold. But I agree that it'd be fantastic to lock something up soon. Hate to have this become a pressing issue in the later end or off season.

This is reasonable. But the way I see it, JC has taken a huge step forward and it is not a fluke. I know it's only been 3 solid games but I don't see how JC's elevated level of play will not continue. I can't point to any single attribute that tells me he's arrived. Maybe it's his pocket presence, maybe it's him going through his progressions properly, maybe it's him designating blocking assignments like a veteran, maybe it's the audibles. More than likely, it's a culmination of all of the above.

Regardless, I just have this gut feeling that the guy is the real deal and if I were the GM, I'd feel comfortable making a commitment to JC at this point.

[akhhorus]

Everyone,

I have only one question for you all: Where's the cap space for a new contract?

There's probably going to be talk in during the bye week but Campbell's not going to get a new contract until the offseason.

Even if they give him a Romo deal, he won't cost that much in the first couple years. Washington and Griff will be off the books after this year, and that frees up a ton of space.

If you wanted to commit to him now, I would give him a 3 year extension for 20ish million. If you want until after the season, and he keeps it up, it will cost about 7 years-55 mil.

[guess88]

This is reasonable. But the way I see it, JC has taken a huge step forward and it is not a fluke. I know it's only been 3 solid games but I don't see how JC's elevated level of play will not continue. I can't point to any single attribute that tells me he's arrived. Maybe it's his pocket presence, maybe it's him going through his progressions properly, maybe it's him designating blocking assignments like a veteran, maybe it's the audibles. More than likely, it's a culmination of all of the above.

Regardless, I just have this gut feeling that the guy is the real deal and if I were the GM, I'd feel comfortable making a commitment to JC at this point.

Understandable, I just want to see more. Like my relationship with women, bad things happen that I just don't comprehend. All he has to do is keep up what he's been doing and he'll be golden... dude's growing as each game goes by, it's fantastic. And we have no cupcake schedule either...

[Sweepea436]

Well if he does as good as he needs to, to get this extention -- that means that we're winning games, and, more than likely means Zorn will be back too..... with the same offense. I can' t see JC bailing to learn yet another offense.

But that being said - the best way to get players on the cheap(er) seems to be by getting that extention, not wait until the end of the contract.

I'm all about saving as much money as we can to get/keep as many quality players as we can.

[Redskin4Life]

Even if they give him a Romo deal, he won't cost that much in the first couple years. Washington and Griff will be off the books after this year, and that frees up a ton of space.

If you wanted to commit to him now, I would give him a 3 year extension for 20ish million. If you want until after the season, and he keeps it up, it will cost about 7 years-55 mil.
Sorry, my post wasn't clear enough... I meant to say, "where's the money THIS YEAR for an extension?"

We're up against the cap and no room for a signing bonus... unless we do it the same way that Cooley got his (as a roster bonus for next year that gets converted into a signing bonus).

I'm not arguing that there isn't money available... especially from this FO. I mean, if they want to make cap space, they can somehow... they always do. I was just thinking that there's really no way to get any money for a deal this year. But again, I forgot about the Cooley deal and how that was "worked out".... so begin the talks at the bye.

[skinsfan36]

we have plenty of cash to do this contract like akh said griff and mw off the books will free some space. im sure eric shaffer will mastermind whatever they want to do. they need to get rogers talks going to

[akhhorus]

Sorry, my post wasn't clear enough... I meant to say, "where's the money THIS YEAR for an extension?"

We're up against the cap and no room for a signing bonus... unless we do it the same way that Cooley got his (as a roster bonus for next year that gets converted into a signing bonus).

I'm not arguing that there isn't money available... especially from this FO. I mean, if they want to make cap space, they can somehow... they always do. I was just thinking that there's really no way to get any money for a deal this year. But again, I forgot about the Cooley deal and how that was "worked out".... so begin the talks at the bye.

Well, basically the same answer. Campbell's cap hit won't jump up significantly this year, even with a Romo-esque new deal. Since JC isn't a FA after this season, there's just no reason to give him that extension during this season. Campbell has a smart agent, so you're probably not going to get a major discount now rather than in January.

[Redskin4Life]

Even if they give him a Romo deal, he won't cost that much in the first couple years. Washington and Griff will be off the books after this year, and that frees up a ton of space.

If you wanted to commit to him now, I would give him a 3 year extension for 20ish million. If you want until after the season, and he keeps it up, it will cost about 7 years-55 mil.
Akh,
Not so sure about this... I'm pretty sure Washington will be off the books but Griff? I think he and Springs will have to work out extensions at lower salaries (I'm thinking 2-3 yr deals at around 10-15M).

This offseason will be the same as the last -- sign a FA or two and draft some quality guys. I see us signing a LB and drafting a DT or CB in the first round (or second after a trade down). The only difference being that we resign a lot of our own guys to extensions.

[Redskin4Life]

Well, basically the same answer. Campbell's cap hit won't jump up significantly this year, even with a Romo-esque new deal. Since JC isn't a FA after this season, there's just no reason to give him that extension during this season. Campbell has a smart agent, so you're probably not going to get a major discount now rather than in January.
True, so why not get the deal done at the bye since you know what you're going to have to pay either way? I guess it'll just be a matter of if JC has shown that he can be the man (we'll have played all the NFC East opponents by then as well as Pitt along with 3 games we'll be favored heavily to win). If JC still looks as good as he has these last three weeks, I say give him the extension now. If we wait til the offseason, JC will probably get the same offer he's getting now... maybe less if he struggles down the stretch?

I'm 50-50 on this one... as long as we sign him, I'm happy.

[akhhorus]

Akh,
Not so sure about this... I'm pretty sure Washington will be off the books but Griff? I think he and Springs will have to work out extensions at lower salaries (I'm thinking 2-3 yr deals at around 10-15M).

This offseason will be the same as the last -- sign a FA or two and draft some quality guys. I see us signing a LB and drafting a DT or CB in the first round (or second after a trade down). The only difference being that we resign a lot of our own guys to extensions.

Griff is a free agent, unless he takes a major pay cut down from the roughly 7 mil he's making this year, he's gone. Either way, cap space is being freed up. And, I would bet either Springs or Smoot will be gone this offseason also. I would not give either Griff or Springs 5 mil a year over multiple years. Springs might be worth 3-4 year to year, maybe. Griff, maybe 1-2 over 3 years.

True, so why not get the deal done at the bye since you know what you're going to have to pay either way? I guess it'll just be a matter of if JC has shown that he can be the man (we'll have played all the NFC East opponents by then as well as Pitt along with 3 games we'll be favored heavily to win). If JC still looks as good as he has these last three weeks, I say give him the extension now. If we wait til the offseason, JC will probably get the same offer he's getting now... maybe less if he struggles down the stretch?

I'm 50-50 on this one... as long as we sign him, I'm happy.

I love how he's playing, I've been a backer of his for years, I wouldn't give him a deal now.

[GeneralDisorder]

A4...

[InsomniaKiller]

We should offer him $9,000 dollars!!!!!!!!!

Sorry. I have nothing worthwhile to offer to this thread.

I'm restricting my posting privileges. :(

[joethefan]

i say wait and see where he ends up at the end of the season...but IMO Zorn should vouch for Jason to get a new deal after this year...it'll take Zorn more time to get another QB this ready IMO.....get him the new deal before the end of the season...esp knowing this uncapped year is coming up twp seasons from now....

[Patrick]

Not worth discussing until this season is over.

[shally]

Not worth discussing until this season is over.

no, i think they need to get it done before the end of the season. that is the way these things are usually handled best..

[Patrick]

no, i think they need to get it done before the end of the season. that is the way these things are usually handled best..
Sorry but I disagree. IF Jason had a full season of taking snaps or put the team in position to make the playoffs - I'd possible be on board but he hasn't (regardless of the reason). He's looking good now and very possible, even better by the EOS. I'd take that chance and if he's EARN the big bucks then he should paid. BUT I still would like to see if he can last a full season or enough of a season that he's got us to the playoffs. That's just my opinion.

[shally]

Sorry but I disagree. IF Jason had a full season of taking snaps or put the team in position to make the playoffs - I'd possible be on board but he hasn't (regardless of the reason). He's looking good now and very possible, even better by the EOS. I'd take that chance and if he's EARN the big bucks then he should paid. BUT I still would like to see if he can last a full season or enough of a season that he's got us to the playoffs. That's just my opinion.

i understand your position and see the logic in it.. i am just saying that is NOT the way most pro active teams handle this kind of issue in the nfl.. it is always cheaper to sign young players earlier, and in the middle of the season, rather than letting the issue drag on towards his final contract year.. if that happens, then most agents delay things in the negotiating process steering things towards putting the player closer to hitting the open market.

we did that with chris samuels and because we waited until the off season, it cost substantially more to get the deal done. samuels himself said exactly that.

you take a substantial risk either way. if JC reverts to poorer play, the team is stuck with someone maybe it overpaid badly for ? but the upside is it is cheaper and there is no distraction or tension generated by the possibility that JC walks, or bad blood is incurred. the eagles did that even earlier with mcnabb and it paid off for them. the larger question is whether JC is the right guy. if that is settled- once that is settled, the earlier it happens the better it is for all..

i see no reason to not offer him david garrard type numbers in a contract.. get it done..

[Oregonian]

the larger question is whether JC is the right guy. if that is settled- once that is settled, the earlier it happens the better it is for all..



Campbell has played well in the past 3 games, especially the last one.

But before we give him a long term contract and tie our fortunes to him for many more years to come, I would like to see him show that he can sustain this level of performance over the course of the season and continue to improve in things like reading defenses, managing the clock, getting the ball out more quickly, etc.

[greatest2]

Campbell has played well in the past 3 games, especially the last one.

But before we give him a long term contract and tie our fortunes to him for many more years to come, I would like to see him show that he can sustain this level of performance over the course of the season and continue to improve in things like reading defenses, managing the clock, getting the ball out more quickly, etc.

what i think shally and I are saying is that the longer we wait, the more we want to see him grow, the more it will cost us.

so its a question of where does saving some cap room and money come into play and where does we want to make sure he is the guy come in.

Personally, i think JC is the guy. but i have believed that the whole time. A guy with so much potential, AND so much character and work ethic can't fail. i mean the reason ryan leaf failed was his character not ability. Campbell got both, and has poise. to me there was no question.

if they signed him this week i wouldn't be upset. but i could see if they wait till near the end of the season. if they wait til the offseason i think it is far to long to wait.

[shally]

what i think shally and I are saying is that the longer we wait, the more we want to see him grow, the more it will cost us.

so its a question of where does saving some cap room and money come into play and where does we want to make sure he is the guy come in.

Personally, i think JC is the guy. but i have believed that the whole time. A guy with so much potential, AND so much character and work ethic can't fail. i mean the reason ryan leaf failed was his character not ability. Campbell got both, and has poise. to me there was no question.

if they signed him this week i wouldn't be upset. but i could see if they wait till near the end of the season. if they wait til the offseason i think it is far to long to wait.


if you truly believe that JC is THE guy, then there is no reason to wait any further. start the negotiations now and proceed at a reasonable pace but get him signed by the time the bye rolls around. not only will it be cheaper in both the short and long run, but it will signal to the players that the issues have been settled and JC is the franchise qb for essentially the duration of his nfl career..

[smoak]

10 year $250MM if we beat Phlly and get to 7-1

[Ibleedburgundy]

Does JLC read HR?

Will JC Get Paid? Or ... When Will JC Get Paid?
As we've noted several times, if Jason Campbell keeps this up, he's going to get paid. He's signed through 2009, and depending on the collective bargaining agreement between the NFL and NFLPA, he'd be either a restricted free agent (if there's an uncapped year) or an unrestricted free agent (if there's no uncapped year).

I say you get this thing done way before then, and give the guy some security. Wait until the bye week if you want, let him keep it up a half-season, but if you go into 2009 with this guy essentially in limbo, I think you end up costing yourself a lot of money, and some good will. You could try to do it in the offseason, and, again, assuming you are on the same page you have time to hammer it out before training camp. ... But if this kid manages to keep up anything close to what he's done these past three weeks, you're talking mega-bucks.



http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/10/will_jc_get_paid_or_when_will.html

[dj_stouty]

Why the big desire to get a stud QB "on the cheap"? If he continues to play like a stud, then we will gladly pay him like one; and Snyder will smile ear to ear everytime he signs JC's paycheck.

Its too early and too much risk to pull the trigger right now. Things change in the NFL overnight and who is to say JC doesn't have his worst career game this Sunday? And if he does, I'm sure several of you will start combing over the 2009 mock drafts to see who could be his potential replacement. ;)

Premature...way too premature.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

Why the big desire to get a stud QB "on the cheap"? If he continues to play like a stud, then we will gladly pay him like one; and Snyder will smile ear to ear everytime he signs JC's paycheck.

Its too early and too much risk to pull the trigger right now. Things change in the NFL overnight and who is to say JC doesn't have his worst career game this Sunday? And if he does, I'm sure several of you will start combing over the 2009 mock drafts to see who could be his potential replacement. ;)

Premature...way too premature.

Well you can see what's happening to the Colts now when you have too much money tied up in a few players.

[BraveHeartFan]

10 year $250MM if we beat Phlly and get to 7-1

I'm sure this is a joke (At the very least I hope it is) but i'd absolutely LOVE IT if you guys signed him to that huge a deal. Even if he turned out to be very good/great that's a lot of money tied up in one guy. I'd love that. :P

[dj_stouty]

Well you can see what's happening to the Colts now when you have too much money tied up in a few players.

Yeah...they make the playoffs every year and have a Superbowl Ring to show for it. ;)

But seriously...I have no problem with the Redskins paying a stud quarterback stud-money. For whaterver reason, there is this sentiment that we need to strike a deal on Jason. When we extended Samuels, and Jansen and Cooley...etc we knew exactly what we were getting; and we paid fair value for it. Jason, despite playing fantastic the last three games, still has plenty of time to prove his stud-worth. Patience!

This reminds me of the Cleveland Browns situation. Last season, Derek Anderson came out of nowhere, blewup, won over the fanbase and was rewarded to a nice 3 year contract worth 24 million. Rumor had it that they may even trade Brady Quinn in the offseason since Anderson was playing so well. Well...now the Browns are getting pressure to bench the newly signed Anderson for Quinn. My how things can change quickly in such little time...

My point is...the act of making a deal, or getting 12 million dollars of performance out of a QB you are paying 6 million a year sounds appetizing, but it just isn't logical. Especially with a QB who is just in the process of finding his nitch in this league. I love Campbell just as much as the next guy but we couldnt' put a pricetag on him right now if we tried. There isn't enough to go on...

This is week 4...and if anyone had even dreamed of broaching this subject after week 1 they would have been laughed off the message board. That was only 4 weeks ago, folks...

[skinsfan36]

I'm sure this is a joke (At the very least I hope it is) but i'd absolutely LOVE IT if you guys signed him to that huge a deal. Even if he turned out to be very good/great that's a lot of money tied up in one guy. I'd love that. :P

like all your money tied up into romo,who plays like he is barely paid in dec/jan

[guess88]

Paying players is something i never worry about with this organization. Even when it doesn't seem like we have cap room, Snyder & Co finds a way to work the numbers. Really just an afterthought to me.

[smoak]

I'm sure this is a joke (At the very least I hope it is) but i'd absolutely LOVE IT if you guys signed him to that huge a deal. Even if he turned out to be very good/great that's a lot of money tied up in one guy. I'd love that. :P

It was... I frankly had to quit caring about the $$$ b/c the numbers are insane compared to the average working person/family.

[RedskinRyan]

Not worth discussing until this season is over.

Fo'sheezy, that's when the team will know how much they should give him. Campbell keeps this up, I don't see the team trying to screw him over. We've been waiting for a franchise QB for a long time.

[Patrick]

It was... I frankly had to quit caring about the $$$ b/c the numbers are insane compared to the average working person/family.

OH such truth in a few words. And yet we continued to support the madness - doesn't say much for US. :(

[skinsfan36]

i think if he can play like he has and show improvement in philly then you extend him in the next 2 weeks

[akhhorus]

Not to bring up an old thread, but Aaron Rodgers just got a 6 years, 65 million dollar extension(with 20 million guaranteed). I'm guessing Campbell will ask for about the same.

[greatest2]

Not to bring up an old thread, but Aaron Rodgers just got a 6 years, 65 million dollar extension(with 20 million guaranteed). I'm guessing Campbell will ask for about the same.

i think he asks and gets more then that.

[akhhorus]

i think he asks and gets more then that.

JLC has a post up on this:
Link (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/10/campbell_may_end_up_in_roethli.html)

The Redskins have been uninterested in negotiating with Campbell to this point, with Vinny Cerrato saying on his radio show that the Skins had no plans to talk about a deal until after the season at the earliest.

Wonder how many other QB chips will fall. Regardless, it's hard for me to see Campbell's deal not ending somewhere between Romo's and Roethlisberger's, and I would not be surprised at all if it's closer to Big Ben.

[csquared]

That seems like an a lot of cash. Are we going to have that kind of cap room?

[akhhorus]

That seems like an a lot of cash. Are we going to have that kind of cap room?

If the skins give him a Big Ben-esque deal, then Snyder is expecting the cap to disappear after 2009.

[Fergie829]

no, i think they need to get it done before the end of the season. that is the way these things are usually handled best..

Vinny was on Redskins Nation yesterday and asked this very same question. His answer was "he has '2' years on his contract, there's no hurry right now." I don't look for anything to happen on this until sometime off-season.

[shally]

Not to bring up an old thread, but Aaron Rodgers just got a 6 years, 65 million dollar extension(with 20 million guaranteed). I'm guessing Campbell will ask for about the same.

without question it will be in that range, at the least.. could end up being in the Big Ben range

the longer the boneheads in the front office wait, the more it will cost them.

[shally]

Vinny was on Redskins Nation yesterday and asked this very same question. His answer was "he has '2' years on his contract, there's no hurry right now." I don't look for anything to happen on this until sometime off-season.

that kind of attitude does not surprise me in the least...

it is almost as though they were factoring in some kind of slump or injury this season that would allow them to drop the offer..

of course, that was the way they approached the samuels negotiations and even chris said, he would have signed for less during the season than he eventually signed for afterwards..

[joethefan]

The better not play with this if they are hoping for something to happen to jason, thats a fire i wouldn't play with. The more games he doesn't throw a pick and wins, the more money danny will have to shell out. If I were them, i'd try to make a move soon....

[WarEagle]

without question it will be in that range, at the least.. could end up being in the Big Ben range

the longer the boneheads in the front office wait, the more it will cost them.

I agree with those words. Jason said that one of his goals was to be a top 5 QB in the NFL. I don't think he's ever failed to achieve a goal in his life, so the org. better make a deal now.

[nicefellow31]

Vinny was on Redskins Nation yesterday and asked this very same question. His answer was "he has '2' years on his contract, there's no hurry right now." I don't look for anything to happen on this until sometime off-season.

I think I saw that Eli and Phillip Rivers are coming up on new contracts in the near future. Maybe Romo (not sure). If Campbell continues to improve and these other QBs get new contracts the Skins will only have to pay more. Why let someone else set the market on what you are going to pay your QB?

[SkinsfaninNJ]

I guess the market is now set by Rodgers at least.

[Red Bear]

rodgers got very little gauranteed money with his deal. getting that deal after only 7 starts he was probably smart to sign it though. The thing is, as mentioned by Florio of PFT, is the Packers had to do a deal with someone. They were 4 million below the salary floor and the deadline to be above it is monday. Greg Jennings refused to do a deal during the season, so i guess Rodgers was their next obvious candidate. Rodgers deal is also the kind that screams holdout in 2-3 years if he out-performs it

[colkurtz]

I think you wait until after the season and pay the extra if he continues at this level.

QB is the most important position on the team - you live or die with that guy. An expensive and long deal says we are committing to him for the franchises future.
BL is whether he can win games for the team. Can he win in the playoffs?

Jason is coming into his own and getting better and better. However, we've got to make sure he is the one. Do it in the off season.

[skinsfan36]

why did the packers give him that much cash when hes looked fair through his whole 7 starts

[shally]

why did the packers give him that much cash when hes looked fair through his whole 7 starts

same reason that the eagles did much the same with mcnabb

if you are sure, AR is the guy, better to tie him up as soon as you can.. it is always cheaper that way..

besides, we dont see what is happening in practice

[Red Bear]

same reason that the eagles did much the same with mcnabb

if you are sure, AR is the guy, better to tie him up as soon as you can.. it is always cheaper that way..

besides, we dont see what is happening in practice

everyones missing the bigger picture in this. and thats if the packers didnt spend 4 million in cap space by monday they would have been in violation of the cap for not reaching the salary floor minimum. and the only two young guys worth locking up for them were jennings and rodgers. and jennings refused to do a deal during the season calling it a distraction.