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Spence
09-23-2003, 02:14 PM
hR Power Poll: Week Three
by Spence

Is the top spot in the hR Power Poll cursed? First Tampa Bay and now Buffalo has been unable to defend its week-to-week title. No one said domination of the best power poll on the Internet was going to be easy. The King is dead. Hail to the King.

01. Kansas City Chiefs [3-0]: QB Trent Green, TB Priest Holmes, and RS Dante Hall are not just defeating opponents, they are embarrassing them. The Chiefs look a lot better than anyone else does right now. Dick Vermeil's three-year plan is right on schedule. [+1]

02. Tampa Bay Buccaneers [2-1]: Throttled Atlanta last Sunday, holding Falcons QB Doug Johnson to less than 100 yards passing and expensive WR Peerless Price to less than 50 yards receiving. The Buc Bullies are back. [+1]

03. Seattle Seahawks [3-0]: Scoring 14 points in the fourth quarter to win a last-second division victory over the Rams shows this team has got guts, as well as talent. [+1]

04. Indianapolis Colts [3-0]: Now WR Reggie Wayne is Peyton Manning's go-to guy? If this offense develops another weapon, it might just be unstoppable. [+1]

05. Denver Broncos [3-0]: I'm still not sure Denver has beaten any good teams, but it's hard to argue with an undefeated record and a 21-point victory over the Raiders. [+1]

06. Miami Dolphins [2-1]: That Dolphin defense everyone expected to see was on display Sunday night, as the 'fins squashed the previously unsquashable Buffalo offense. Miami is still inconsistent, but appears to be improving. Appears to be. [+10]

07. Buffalo Bills [2-1]: If anyone else can handle the Bills offense as well as Miami did, Buffalo might be in a spot of trouble. Fortunately for them, I don't think too many teams have the talent on defense that Miami does. [-6]

08. Tennessee Titans [2-1]: Steve McNair, the world's toughest quarterback, rallied his team and the Titans crushed the Saints. McNair is now only the fifth quarterback to throw for over 20,000 yards and rush for more than 3000 yards. What a soldier. [+1]

09. New England [2-1]: Tough win over the Jets leads to still more injuries for Head Coach Bill Belichick's banged-up crew. Depth on defense is almost gone. [-2]

10. Minnesota Vikings [3-0]: The Vikes have won their last six games, but QB Daunte Culpepper and WR Randy Moss are injured. With them, the Vikes are as mighty as their namesakes. Without them, they are Poland, circa 1939. [+2]

11. Carolina Panthers [2-0]: Bye week allowed defensive linemen to build up their appetite for their next opponent/victim. [No change]

12. Pittsburgh Steelers [2-1]: Barely beat the Bengals. No points for that. [-2]

13. New York Giants [2-1]: The G-man can play a lot better than they did in the second half against the Redskins. Want proof? Check out the first half against the Redskins. Dallas this Sunday is a must-win game. [+5]

14. Oakland Raiders [1-2]: This is your last chance, Oakland. Get your act in gear or prepare to share the hR Power Poll cellar with the likes of San Diego and Detroit. [-6]

15. Baltimore Ravens [2-1]: Brutal defense and a terrific running back is a winning combination. Big challenge coming up, though: Priest Holmes and the Chiefs. [+7]

16. Washington Redskins [2-1]: I've taken some criticism for not ranking the Skins higher, but I was right about these guys. They're talented, but not ready for prime time. A brain transplant might help. [+1]

17. St. Louis Rams [1-2]: Now Marshall Faulk out for at least a month? Uh-oh. [-4]

18. San Francisco 49ers [1-2]: Couldn't even get in the end zone against a team that gave up almost 300 yards rushing to one guy the week before. [-4]

19. Green Bay Packers [1-2]: Okay, losing to the Vikings does not look so bad anymore, but losing to the Cardinals? What the hell was that? Shut down TB Ahman Green and you should beat the Packers. [-4]

20. Philadelphia Eagles [0-2]: At least no one else got injured during the bye week. Next up: Buffalo Bills in Buffalo. Better hope they're not angry after the Miami loss. [-1]

21. Dallas Cowboys [1-1]: Used bye week to rest up for the Giants. Can the Tuna do it twice to his old team? [+2]

22. Cleveland Browns [1-2]: Defense and QB Kelly Holcombe finally show signs of life. The heat is off…for one more week. [+5]

23. New Orleans Saints [1-2]: No team gets less from more than the Saints. This team just sucks right now and Head Coach Jim Haslett should be polishing up his resume. Probably a good idea not to mention the last two or three years, though. [-3]

24. Atlanta Falcons [1-2]: Boy, do these guys need Mike Vick back or what? [-3]

25. Houston Texans [1-2]: Have looked more like a second-year team the last two weeks. [-1]

26. Arizona Cardinals [1-2]: I'm not sure beating Green Bay is as impressive as it used to be, but any win is a sign of progress. [+5]

27. New York Jets [0-3]: Testaverde showing some sign of life, but there is just no running game and no offensive playmakers. They really miss Pennington and Coles. [-1]

28. Detroit Lions [1-2]: Only missing a running game and a defense. [No change]

29. Jacksonville Jaguars [0-3]: QB Mark Brunell and TB Fred Taylor are still playing like pros, but they're the only ones. [No change]

30. Cincinnati Bengals [0-3]: Continuing to lose close games, but at least they're close, which is more than can be said for the last two teams. [No change.]

31. San Diego Chargers [0-3]: Marty Schottenheimer's crew of has lost eight of their last ten games. They're not even competitive right now. Prediction: This will be Marty's last year as a NFL head coach. [-5]

32. Chicago Bears [0-2]: Found out how not to lose: Don't play. [No change]

CarMike
09-23-2003, 02:22 PM
Spence, as usual, great job. I'd change one thing. I think the Raiders should be a lot lower than you have them. The only team they have beaten are the Bengals. And that was on a last second FG by Mr. Drunk himself, Sebastien Janokowski. They don't belong in the top 20. JMOO...

Spence
09-23-2003, 02:22 PM
Let me start the comments.

Wow, Spence, what a great job. I've never seen such insight distilled into a single post. You must be a very handsome man!

Spence
09-23-2003, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by CarMike
Spence, as usual, great job. I'd change one thing. I think the Raiders should be a lot lower than you have them. The only team they have beaten are the Bengals. And that was on a last second FG by Mr. Drunk himself, Sebastien Janokowski. They don't belong in the top 20. JMOO... I think you've got a good point, Mike. I'm itching to drop them big time. They need a good win next week or I'll pull the lever on that trap door Rich Gannon is standing on.

hail2skins
09-23-2003, 02:24 PM
Yeah, right now I'd put them below us. They're having problems.

Spence
09-23-2003, 02:32 PM
I knew I'd take heat for the Raiders placement. I don't like it either, but had a hard time placing them elsewhere. Also, I thought I'd give them the benefit of the doubt, considering their past achievements. They've lost to two very good teams: Denver and Tennessee. Both losses were on the road.

dj_stouty
09-23-2003, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by hail2skins
Yeah, right now I'd put them below us. They're having problems.

I agree...last night's performance reminded me of Jeff George's stint with the Skins.

1st down: [pass incomplete]
2nd down: [sack]
3rd down: [pass out of bounds]
4th down: [punt]

(Rinse and repeat)

CarMike
09-23-2003, 02:43 PM
Thats cool Spence.

Patrick
09-24-2003, 06:28 AM
Spence - no heat about the Skins this week being ranked high, but among the 2-1 teams, I feel they are ahead of Baltimore and Raiders(?) and NE.

Raiders???? - well I think you already feel your frustrations about that placement. No difference between them and Philly!

The only one that rasies an eyebrow to me is Denver at #5. They are ranked 3rd-O and 4th-D while everyone you ranked above them is alot lower in (at least) one of those two areas and in Tampa's case and has a loss too.

Anyway GOOD JOB! Enjoy you PR every week!

Seebs
09-24-2003, 07:20 AM
Yep, raiders but also steelers or NE make me have some interrogations. But you know nobody can't ever agree completely to this kind of poll.

Spence
09-24-2003, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by Patrick
The only one that rasies an eyebrow to me is Denver at #5. They are ranked 3rd-O and 4th-D while everyone you ranked above them is alot lower in (at least) one of those two areas and in Tampa's case and has a loss too. Denver has looked good so far, but I didn't rank them higher for two reasons. Firstly, I'm not convinced QB Jake Plummer can be consistent. He'll have to prove it to me. He was absolutely horrid in week one. Secondly, the Broncos have yet to beat a good team. They've defeated Cincinnati, San Diego, and Oakland. Combined record: 1-8. Cincy and San Diego are #30 and #31 in the hR Power Poll.

BigCountry
09-24-2003, 12:22 PM
Trust me, 5 is extremely high for the Broncos in Spence's rankings but this time I'm actually gonna say that they've yet to proove themselves to me before I start making a case for them. Last year I thought they were the best team in the league at this point.

Spence
09-24-2003, 12:27 PM
Uri and I agree on Denver. Let's have a two-minute silence! :D

Texas Skin
09-24-2003, 01:31 PM
"13. New York Giants [2-1]: The G-man can play a lot better than they did in the second half against the Redskins. Want proof? Check out the first half against the Redskins. Dallas this Sunday is a must-win game. [+5]"

FYI : the games this weekend

Dallas at Jets

Giants have a Bye then next week play Miami


Also I don't agree with your comments about the Giants first half play. It's easy to score 3 touchdowns against our Skins defense when we hand them 9 penalites in the first half to keep all their drives going all the way to our endzone.

Spence
09-24-2003, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by Texas Skin
FYI : the games this weekend

Dallas at Jets

Giants have a Bye then next week play Miami


Also I don't agree with your comments about the Giants first half play. It's easy to score 3 touchdowns against our Skins defense when we hand them 9 penalites in the first half to keep all their drives going all the way to our endzone. Thanks for the heads-up about the Cowboys game this week. I saw New York and made the wrong assumption. I'm not with you about the Giants offense in the first half, though. The Skins were terrible, but the Giants were very opportunistic and efficient. It was impressive.

Texas Skin
09-24-2003, 02:11 PM
Okay Spence I understand your point, but I just don't agree. If the Redskins didn't keep screwing themselves and giving the Giants 1st downs their drives would of been over or they would had to work alot harder to get those scores. I'm not impressed with the Giants, and personnal think they still have to prove themselves. I don't think they have a solid Win yet. Their only other Win was also a self-destruction game by the half-effort Rams, a team lead by a Brainless Kurt Warner (at least in that game). And Kurt was BAD in the that game and the Giants still let him through for 342 yards. Other stats against the Giants: Q. Carter 321 Yards, and our boy P. Ramsey 348 Yards. My point? I guess alot people rank or have ranked the Giants higher than us, but I think we are the better team still, even after a stupid loss. We will only improve our own mental errors, these are things that can be fixed.

Death_Venom
09-24-2003, 10:31 PM
What is so impressive about having made something out of penalities? The G-Men are HIGHLY overrated (as are: NE, Raiders, Falcons).......Sure these teams have some spectacular moments, but as a whole? Not much of a team.......Sorry Spence!!!!!