Kelly's Playing this Week! [Archive] - hailRedskins.com Fan Board

AliBabba

11-20-2008, 06:11 AM

Best new's I've read in weeks. I'm excited to see what he can do now that he may actually be healthy.

Wide receiver Malcolm Kelly looked very good in practice today, Zorn said, and he, too, is slated to play Sunday. Zorn praised Kelly's ability to get to passes just within his vicinity and make catches look easy. Kelly has missed most of the season with knee injuries.

LINK (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/11/jim_zorn_injury_update_2.html)

I've tried to tell everyone that would listen to me since draft day that this kid's going to be a stud. He has the polish, the swagger, the hands and the build to be very productive receiver right now. I believe the FO thought he'd be a contributor from the start while Thomas would likely be a bit of a project. Unfortunately while the latter is true we still have no idea what we have in Kelly.... we may find out Sunday.

I think that if he gets a decent number of snaps - and his knee holds up - he could be a real complement to Moss for the stretch run.

shane88

11-20-2008, 08:03 AM

Let's hope so. I'd really like to see the kid work out well, both for us and for him. It's gotta be frustrating to have setback after setback for him. I hope everyone is patient with the kid, as well as Thomas and Davis, as we all realize it generally takes a season or 2 for receivers to "get it".

shally

11-20-2008, 08:05 AM

'bout time..... just saying....

Lavar703

11-20-2008, 08:38 AM

Great, now we have another big body to catch screen passes

shally

11-20-2008, 09:11 AM

Great, now we have another big body to catch screen passes

slants.. if ever there was a redskin receiver with the body for this type of route it is Kelly

LATrueRedskin

11-20-2008, 09:26 AM

Have to be able to give Jason Campbell time to throw, or it doesn't matter who is out there running routes. Good news, though, I'm excited to see what he can do.

Keino

11-20-2008, 09:34 AM

I will be thrilled if he knows how to line-up properly, nevermind complimenting Moss.

JsMaViSd

11-20-2008, 09:38 AM

im so excited to see the big guy line up in the red zone :)

BurgundyNGold

11-20-2008, 09:52 AM

Kelley has the best chance of any of the 3 second rounders to make an impact this year. Hopefully he comes in and catches on quickly a la DeSean Jackson, Eddie Royal, et al.

Moe

11-20-2008, 10:16 AM

This is good news if for no reason other than to get a glimpse of what the kid brings to the table. Obviously, he should give them some options in the red zone but if they can establish him inside on slants and crosses then we should see a lot more room for Moss and the other receivers to use, not to mention what it'll do for the run game. Worst case he gives Seattle something else to consider this week during prep.

SkinsfaninNJ

11-20-2008, 10:20 AM

I will be thrilled if he knows how to line-up properly, nevermind complimenting Moss.

Yeah. My expectations are not very high, especially for this week.

NCskinsfanatic

11-20-2008, 10:35 AM

'bout time..... just saying....

well he didnt miss much more action than Springs and his excuses are more plauseable lol...

ChiefPowhatan17

11-20-2008, 11:05 AM

I hope it was worth it, him taking up a roster spot for 11 weeks. I really hope he can produce, since we only have 181 points on the year, we rank near the bottom of the NFC in scoring.
Put him in the slot and run slants all day, then at the goal line, it's time for the jump ball. We have needed a big body for years.

BIGREDSKINSFAN1963

11-20-2008, 11:07 AM

BurgundyNGold

11-20-2008, 11:16 AM

i'd let thrash play before i would this young man.i question his heart.he came into camp out of shape and injured did'nt he?i hope he is'nt just here for a paycheck.he was great in college,but his 7 months as a pro has been non encouraging.
I don't know that there is ample reason to question his heart. You have to remember, these young men are but barely adults. At every level of football, they have been head and shoulders above their peers. It is not unreasonable to assume that, as they have in the past, they thought they could merely show up and play ball. To me, that's more a matter of youth and inexperience than heart.

As for Thrash, there is no doubt that he has the heart. He just doesn't have the legs anymore. He is clearly overmatched as the 3rd WR in this offense week in and week out. In fact, it's been this way for 2 or 3 years now. The sooner we get Kelley out there so that we can judge him, the better. If that makes an overmatched Thrash sit, so be it. We don't lose much in the passing game with him out.

chicago_skinz_fan

11-20-2008, 11:43 AM

cal_junior

11-20-2008, 12:09 PM

Kelley has the best chance of any of the 3 second rounders to make an impact this year. Hopefully he comes in and catches on quickly a la DeSean Jackson, Eddie Royal, et al.

I totally agree with this. I'm not sure if it was comments made by Skins players or just my overall inference, but I've always had the sense Kelly was more of a polished product while Thomas and Davis were talented guys who might need a year or more to figure the NFL game out.

This could be a great thing for a team desparately in need of another offensive play-maker.

saviour

11-20-2008, 12:51 PM

Good news that is knee is OK. Am I thrilled? Not really... He probably won't catch a pass Sunday. I mean Thomas has been playing for a while, and has been wide open at times and Campbell isn't seeing them.

Hopefully he starts looking at the rookies more.

Campbell has not had the time in the pocket to see anyone recently. No fault of his or the receivers at this point.

I honestly think that the only way either Thomas or Kelly makes any sort of impact is when Zorn calls plays for them as the line is not blocking well enough for JC to get through his progressions to hit the 3rd and 4th receivers.

Biggie

11-20-2008, 01:30 PM

Death_Venom

11-20-2008, 02:05 PM

Is it too much to hope that Kelley will verify his supposed "stud" status on Sunday and make some great catches and possibly even a few TDs????

Seriously our WR Corps just plain sucks in my opinion.....I just want a glimmer of hope for the future.

nicefellow31

11-20-2008, 03:16 PM

Best new's I've read in weeks. I'm excited to see what he can do now that he may actually be healthy.

LINK (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/11/jim_zorn_injury_update_2.html)

I've tried to tell everyone that would listen to me since draft day that this kid's going to be a stud. He has the polish, the swagger, the hands and the build to be very productive receiver right now. I believe the FO thought he'd be a contributor from the start while Thomas would likely be a bit of a project. Unfortunately while the latter is true we still have no idea what we have in Kelly.... we may find out Sunday.

I think that if he gets a decent number of snaps - and his knee holds up - he could be a real complement to Moss for the stretch run.

I hope he does, but this is a show and prove league. Not interested in potential, want to see some results.

BurgundyNGold

11-20-2008, 03:18 PM

I'm sold. I'll be starting Kelly in my fantasy league this week.

jaylen

11-20-2008, 04:07 PM

Based on what our corners said playing against him in Camp, corners know who can play, I think there's legit reason to be hopeful right away.

Getting a legit 3rd down/Redzone threat could explode our offense. Would be nice if he became our Plaxico.

Looks like the knee woes may be over for right now.

LATrueRedskin

11-20-2008, 04:52 PM

This is great news. 95% of our passing yards have been coming from four people, and we need someone else to step up in the passing game if we want it to get better. Hopefully he can help out in the red/end zone.

This is where I hope he can make a contribution. Any contribution. We can't score in the redzone to save our lives. Maybe putting Kelly in there will pull some guys off Cooley and give him some touches.

Swirvi

11-20-2008, 05:29 PM

The way our OL is pass protecting, I don't care if we have Jerry Rice in his prime. I am not expecting anything more than 1 or 2 completions to him, if any at all. Big body, red zone threat, height, whatever. If JC can't get the ball off, none of this matters.

To be completely honest, I'd love to see whichever receivers are the best run blockers out on the field. Someone who can keep their body on a DB while CP busts into the open would be nice. Who cares about receiving ability when JC has exactly 2.5 seconds to get rid of the ball?

wide_awake

11-20-2008, 05:32 PM

CNYSkinFan

11-20-2008, 05:44 PM

Did this thread really need an exclamation point after it? Seriously I have no excitement for this move at all. I would have put a "." or maybe a "?" or perhaps a ";" as if to suggest there may be more, but probably nothing good.

shane88

11-20-2008, 05:51 PM

Even if he does play i'm sure Campbell won't look at him.

Is anyone else frustrated with that BS excuse of Campbell not throwing to wide open rookies because he doesn't "trust" them?

What the hell does that mean? I see McNabb throwing to Jackson, Cutler to Royal, Eli to WHOEVER IS PLAYING WR that day... I don't wanna hear that crap, you either suck at going through progressions or you're playing too conservative if you give me that lack of "trust" crap.

It means those QB's trust that their recievers will be in the right place when they throw the ball. If the QB is reading a coverage, he needs to sense that the receiver is reading the same coverage and will be exactly where he can throw the ball. If the QB is reading inside coverage and the receiver does the opposite, he's gonna learn not to trust that receiver until he starts making the right adjustments to his routes. Makes sense to me.

silverspring

11-20-2008, 06:11 PM

JoeJacksonTaylor28

11-20-2008, 06:33 PM

I'm done (at least for this season) getting excited every time somebody says any of our pass catchers has looked good in practice. Until I see it in gameday, I won't believe it.

Skins7ny

11-20-2008, 07:17 PM

.... As for Thrash, there is no doubt that he has the heart. He just doesn't have the legs anymore. He is clearly overmatched as the 3rd WR in this offense week in and week out. In fact, it's been this way for 2 or 3 years now. The sooner we get Kelley out there so that we can judge him, the better. If that makes an overmatched Thrash sit, so be it. We don't lose much in the passing game with him out.
Thrash is a great Redskins, but the bottom line is that he is not productive. You could put a cardboard cutout in his place as the #3 WR this year and he would be almost as productive. Anything we get out of Kelly in that position, short of him running wrong routes resulting in interceptions, will be an improvement over what we have had in that position this year. And it pains me to write that, becuase Thrash is a pro's pro.
I totally agree with this. I'm not sure if it was comments made by Skins players or just my overall inference, but I've always had the sense Kelly was more of a polished product while Thomas and Davis were talented guys who might need a year or more to figure the NFL game out.
This could be a great thing for a team desparately in need of another offensive play-maker.
That is the sense I have had also. It seems that the players (Campbell, Springs, etc. have been quoted) as saying that Kelly has the ability to help this year, he just hasn't been able to get on the field. I am very excited to finally see Kelly get significant playing time. It would not surprise me if he has a big day. But of course, we all have gotten sick of getting teased by great practice player like Taylor Jacobs who never produce on Sundays (see post below).

This team has been crying out for a #2 WR to seize the position since Albert Connell, for heaven's sake. And he only lasted in that position one year. I have high hopes that Kelly will end our search.
I'm done (at least for this season) getting excited every time somebody says any of our pass catchers has looked good in practice. Until I see it in gameday, I won't believe it. So you are literally Doubting Thomas?

Sonoma

11-20-2008, 07:48 PM

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/11/will_malcolm_kelly_and_shaun_a.html?nav=rss_blog

This is total bs if they don't activate Kelly this week. Jim Zorn and his distrust in these rookies. It's just ridiculous; he might Keebler activated over someone that might contribute. I realize our RBs are banged up but I doubt Portis and Betts will both go down. I don't mind Rock getting some carries. I would much rather have another WR since Randle El is hurting, Thrash is Thrash, and Devin Thomas is not the brightest.

ugh...

sinskin

11-21-2008, 08:07 AM

The rookies cant run 5 maybe 6 plays a piece. Its only been 6 months with a playbook? 6 plays is more then Tip Toe gets. I'm sorry I need more explanation from Zorn then hes not ready... thats getting rather hard to believe.

redskin_rich

11-21-2008, 08:14 AM

firehawk157

11-21-2008, 08:52 AM

I, for one, am excited. I saw this guy play in training camp and he's the most fluid receiver I've ever seen play. Not annoiting him or anything, just remarking on the physical talents of the guy. He obviously can play, it's just getting him out there and on the same page as JC.

AliBabba

11-21-2008, 02:31 PM

AliBabba

11-21-2008, 02:35 PM

Rookie wide receiver Malcolm Kelly completed practice this week without experiencing knee problems and said he hopes to play against the Seahawks.

"We'll just have to see," Kelly said. "I got in some formations just for me, some little plays here and there just for me, so we'll just have to see.

"Coach [Jim] Zorn talks about the plays and then he says, 'If you're activated, then we're going to do this and do this.' It is a pretty good sign, but you never know."
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/11/jason_reid_reports_rookie_wide.html

Drafted from Oklahoma with one of Washington's three second-round picks, Kelly (6 feet 4, 227 pounds) is the biggest wide receiver on the roster, and the receiving corps could use a boost. "I anticipate getting him involved if he's active," Zorn said. "But how much?

"He's going to be a part of the group if he's active, and then we'll see how much he can actually go. We have some veteran receivers and he hasn't been out doing a whole lot [this season], so I'm just trying to get him involved."

SkinsfaninNJ

11-21-2008, 03:19 PM

How about... Zorn isn't going to tip his hand one way or the other until game time.
:thinker:

I could believe that if Zorn was devious or clever. Zorn has not showed himself to be either since the first Dallas game.

redskin_rich

11-21-2008, 03:27 PM

I could believe that if Zorn was devious or clever. Zorn has not showed himself to be either since the first Dallas game.
There was a lot of speculation about Portis not playing last week and I think a good deal of folks bought into it.

I'll give you something to believe, Kelly will play this week, bank it. They can use the extra roster spot that Marcus Washington won't be wasting this week.

CNYSkinFan

11-21-2008, 04:03 PM

zanax...look into it

BurgundyNGold

11-21-2008, 04:21 PM

zanax...look into it

This is all I could find...

http://www.drugs.com/misspellings/zanax.html

:D

redskin_rich

11-21-2008, 04:39 PM

zanax...look into it

Aren't you kind of young to be suffering from ED?

LATrueRedskin

11-21-2008, 04:47 PM

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/11/jason_reid_reports_rookie_wide.html

Uh-oh. Now it's, "he hopes to play on Sunday." I won't be shocked if he is inactive, or if he's only in for about 4 or 5 plays.

skinsfan36

11-21-2008, 10:59 PM

awesome hope he plays sunday and makes an impact

shally

11-22-2008, 12:22 AM

Uh-oh. Now it's, "he hopes to play on Sunday." I won't be shocked if he is inactive, or if he's only in for about 4 or 5 plays.

problem will be keebler.. i think that zorn really wants to play SA this weekend.. if he ever is to have a good game, this is the one.
but zorn has said having 4 rb's is a luxury. means that if keebler is active then either davis or kelly wont be
also, if springs is playing then tryon becomes a luxury, except we need him on coverage units.. same with thrash
some tough calls for zorn but still getting both kelly and thomas would help--especially if ARE is limping around.. then WHO returns punts ? Hall ?? Moss??? (hope not-- he really hasnt been the same since his last punt return)

SimplyZ

11-22-2008, 12:19 PM

Hopefully he has a suprise great game. A game winning TD or something. Horton got a starting gig by showing he is supposed to be out there. Maybe thats what the coaching staff needs to see before they trust a rookie.

silverspring

11-22-2008, 12:56 PM

problem will be keebler.. i think that zorn really wants to play SA this weekend.. if he ever is to have a good game, this is the one.
but zorn has said having 4 rb's is a luxury. means that if keebler is active then either davis or kelly wont be
also, if springs is playing then tryon becomes a luxury, except we need him on coverage units.. same with thrash
some tough calls for zorn but still getting both kelly and thomas would help--especially if ARE is limping around.. then WHO returns punts ? Hall ?? Moss??? (hope not-- he really hasnt been the same since his last punt return)

A very important question. If ARE is hurting you would think they would at least limit him and the best way to do that is finally give someone else a shot at his punt return job. I could see moss running one but not all. Tryon? Hall? Thomas? Thrash? I would love to see hall get a tryout. Someone needs to step up at punt returner.

shally

11-22-2008, 05:32 PM

A very important question. If ARE is hurting you would think they would at least limit him and the best way to do that is finally give someone else a shot at his punt return job. I could see moss running one but not all. Tryon? Hall? Thomas? Thrash? I would love to see hall get a tryout. Someone needs to step up at punt returner.

i can live with someone faircatching every one of the punts.. i cant live with someone putting a couple on the turf while trying for a big return

JasonCampbell

11-23-2008, 07:56 PM

Well, I've never seen so encouraged by a 2 rec. 12 yds performance :)

guess88

11-23-2008, 09:35 PM

Well, I've never seen so encouraged by a 2 rec. 12 yds performance :)

Seems like he took over DT and Thrash's spot. Hope he comes with a vengence next game!

JsMaViSd

11-23-2008, 09:41 PM

yea i saw him lined up SEVERAL times opposite Moss.

hope this becomes a habit. didnt see much of Thrash out there

Dolla Bill

11-23-2008, 09:53 PM

I saw way too much of Thrash out there on offense for my taste.

skinsfan36

11-23-2008, 10:32 PM

glad to see him get alot of snaps wish that fade was a better pass

shally

11-23-2008, 10:32 PM

I saw way too much of Thrash out there on offense for my taste.

i agree.. if he is out there for blocking, it is a definite tip off to the defense

AliBabba

11-23-2008, 11:31 PM

Just finished watching the game on DVR. Very solid performance for Kelly imo. He messed up that fade route other than that seemed to know where to be all the time. Found the soft spot in the zone nicely in the red zone on that 2nd catch. Didn't hurt the team at all as a rookie. Didn't do a whole lot himself, directly, but maybe his biggest contribution was allowing El to line up in the slot and be the productive receiver he can be there.

I am very encouraged ..... I'll go take my xanax now and put myself down Dustin

SkinsfaninNJ

11-23-2008, 11:34 PM

I think this is an indictment of Thomas. Kelly played an important role today. The only time I can say that about Thomas was last week. Thomas should be way ahead of Kelly and he isn't.

AliBabba

11-23-2008, 11:41 PM

I think this is an indictment of Thomas. Kelly played an important role today. The only time I can say that about Thomas was last week. Thomas should be way ahead of Kelly and he isn't.
From everything that's come from the coaches, the beat writers, and the players this year Kelly is well ahead of Thomas in terms of preparation. This shouldn't be surprising when you consider Thomas really only has one season of experience prior to this year as a WR. Even pre- and post draft it was discussed that his learning curve would likely prohibit him from making much of a contribution his first year.

Kelly's inability to get healthy is the primary reason that Thomas has gotten the reps he has. He should be backing Moss learning that position while Kelly establishes himself across the field and El plays, as he should, out of the slot.

shally

11-23-2008, 11:41 PM

SkinsfaninNJ

11-23-2008, 11:50 PM

From everything that's come from the coaches, the beat writers, and the players this year Kelly is well ahead of Thomas in terms of preparation. This shouldn't be surprising when you consider Thomas really only has one season of experience prior to this year as a WR. Even pre- and post draft it was discussed that his learning curve would likely prohibit him from making much of a contribution his first year.

Kelly's inability to get healthy is the primary reason that Thomas has gotten the reps he has. He should be backing Moss learning that position while Kelly establishes himself across the field and El plays, as he should, out of the slot.

I guess, but I'm still disappointed by Thomas.

AliBabba

11-23-2008, 11:59 PM

Rookie wide receiver Malcolm Kelly was active for the first time since Oct. 19 against Cleveland and played his largest role yet. Though he only caught two passes for 12 yards -- doubling his production for the season to this point -- Coach Jim Zorn called one deep ball intended for Kelly, who couldn't make a catch as he fell out of the end zone.

"That's what I'm here for: to play, not to sit there wondering when I'm going to play," Kelly said. "It was fun. It was exciting."

With his problematic knee now healthy, Kelly expects an increased role over the final five games. He was used more than veteran James Thrash or fellow rookie Devin Thomas.

"There was a lot of plays that were supposed to be called for me that they didn't call," Kelly said. "That tells you, down the stretch, there's stuff coming my way. ... Even with the progress I made today, I know I'm leaps and bounds away from where I really know I can be."
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/11/kelly_it_was_fun_exciting.html

SkinsfaninNJ

11-24-2008, 12:14 AM

I am saying my prayers for his health. He can be a real player for this team.

OCSKINSFAN

11-24-2008, 03:31 AM

Well, I've never seen so encouraged by a 2 rec. 12 yds performance :)

I agree. Other than the fact Kelly was out there, what did he do? That said, I still prefer he or DT be the #3 WR rather than Thrash who should only be the #5 WR. Why Kelly would be ahead of DT is open to debate. He certainly does not have the speed of DT, who has been open in prior games for a number of td's if JC would have passed it to him (and had a td called back due to a holding call on a lineman). I would like to see MK and DT playing as the #3 and #4 wr's.

Patrick

11-24-2008, 08:18 AM

Was not impressed.

MONK_in_HOF

11-24-2008, 08:30 AM

I know it was only 1 game, but I wasn't that impressed either. He gave himself no chance to make a play on that fade route by basically running out of bounds before the ball was even thrown. I am just glad he was able to get out there.

Redskinmayhem

11-24-2008, 10:28 AM

The only thing I was encouraged by was the fact that we actually threw the ball up to him a few times. The fade was nice, although a bit long but you can see in that play what his potential is.

GibbsFan

11-24-2008, 10:37 AM

I was impressed that we finally got ARE into the slot :sun:

LATrueRedskin

11-24-2008, 10:39 AM

He did OK. Couple gimme plays from Zorn to get him some confidence, but he kind of ran himself out of that touchdown try. I'm excited to see him out there, though. In my mind he can only get better.

BurgundyNGold

11-24-2008, 10:45 AM

He did OK. Couple gimme plays from Zorn to get him some confidence, but he kind of ran himself out of that touchdown try. I'm excited to see him out there, though. In my mind he can only get better.
Yeah, he ran a really bad route but JC is also starting to develop a bad habit of not properly leading his receivers.

Keino

11-24-2008, 11:09 AM

Yeah, he ran a really bad route but JC is also starting to develop a bad habit of not properly leading his receivers.

On that play, the idea is not to lead the WR, but to throw it in a spot where only his WR can make a play on the ball.

Is that what you mean? A bad habit of leading the WR when the situation doesn't call for it?

LATrueRedskin

11-24-2008, 11:17 AM

Yeah, he ran a really bad route but JC is also starting to develop a bad habit of not properly leading his receivers.

Yeah, not a good throw by Campbell either, but Kelly didn't really give him anything to work with.

BurgundyNGold

11-24-2008, 11:21 AM

On that play, the idea is not to lead the WR, but to throw it in a spot where only his WR can make a play on the ball.

Is that what you mean? A bad habit of leading the WR when the situation doesn't call for it?
Yes and no. Sometimes, JC just seems to lead the WR on the line of the route the WR is running. If that takes him OOB, so be it, it seems. The best QB will throw behind the coverage or will lead the WR back in bounds with the pass, if possible. Kelly's line was taking him 5 yards OOB; I'm sure JC must have known that when throwing the ball. If you cannot hit the receiver in bounds with the pass, there's no point in throwing the ball to that receiver.

That said, Kelly ran a bad route. He started that route at the numbers and then slid OOB. Bad awareness by Kelly.

AliBabba

11-24-2008, 11:23 AM

Yes and no. Sometimes, JC just seems to lead the WR on the line of the route the WR is running. If that takes him OOB, so be it, it seems. The best QB will throw behind the coverage or will lead the WR back in bounds with the pass, if possible. Kelly's line was taking him 5 yards OOB; I'm sure JC must have known that when throwing the ball. If you cannot hit the receiver in bounds with the pass, there's no point in throwing the ball to that receiver.

That said, Kelly ran a bad route. He started that route at the numbers and then slid OOB. Bad awareness by Kelly.
That fade was all on Kelly. JC threw the ball to a spot and Malcolm didn't establish position, he was forced OOB as a result.

AliBabba

11-24-2008, 11:29 AM

Was not impressed.

He should have probably scored a three times in his 2nd NFL start ;)

I was impressed that we finally got ARE into the slot :sun:

That was key. He is not a suitable no. 2/split out but a great option out of the slot.

Moe

11-24-2008, 11:33 AM

AliBabba

11-24-2008, 11:38 AM

If nothing else, the kids size really comes through. In limited action he does seem to effortlessly catch the ball, something this crop of WR's doesn't always do. The fade was a big miss but he'll get more opportunities and having him out there, along with it allowing ARE to operate in his more natural spot, will be good for the offense.
I guess nobody else noticed the catch he made in the red zone in the 2nd half. Didn't look like a big deal but he did an excellent job of recognizing the zone coverage and settling in the soft spot. Easy throw for JC, easy yards in a part of the field that nothing has been easy for the skins so far this year.

BurgundyNGold

11-24-2008, 11:41 AM

That fade was all on Kelly. JC threw the ball to a spot and Malcolm didn't establish position, he was forced OOB as a result.
That pass was OOB too. It was improperly executed on both ends.

guess88

11-24-2008, 11:41 AM

For the lack of any particular big stats, you gotta remember it's his what.. 2nd game? I don't even know how limited he was in practice either, so the chemistry between him and JC should only get better and better. If we can establish him opposite Moss as a solid possession receiver, and shift ARE to the slot, I'll be singing angels.

AliBabba

11-24-2008, 11:47 AM

That pass was OOB too. It was improperly executed on both ends.
I'll watch it again but I'm pretty sure he could have caught it if he'd established the sideline earlier. The throw wasn't perfect as I think he should have thrown more to the inside shoulder but with Kelly's size and jumping ability I'm pretty sure that still should have been six.

Keino

11-24-2008, 11:48 AM

O/T - Why is it Moss never knows where his feet are in relation to the sideline.....that should have been 6 pts as well.

AliBabba

11-24-2008, 11:52 AM

O/T - Why is it Moss never knows where his feet are in relation to the sideline.....that should have been 6 pts as well.
He plays too close to the sideline for sure. I think it has something to do with his size and trying to eke out every bit of separation he can but whatever it is Zorn should develop a drill or some type of prescription eyewear that makes Tanaman think the sidelines a foot closer than it really is

BurgundyNGold

11-24-2008, 12:15 PM

I'll watch it again but I'm pretty sure he could have caught it if he'd established the sideline earlier. The throw wasn't perfect as I think he should have thrown more to the inside shoulder but with Kelly's size and jumping ability I'm pretty sure that still should have been six.
Kelly did not position himself properly (a problem he had in college too) but that throw was off too. Then again, I'd rather have them try these plays and fail as opposed to not trying them at all. At least then they can get better at it and spread the field a bit in the interim.

BurgundyNGold

11-24-2008, 12:18 PM

O/T - Why is it Moss never knows where his feet are in relation to the sideline.....that should have been 6 pts as well.
Agreed. He was too close to the sideline but on those WR screen routes, every split second matters. That was another throw where JC was about a yard off (Moss had to fully extend to bring down the pass). If that throw was lower, maybe Moss could get through the crease quicker and might have had more room out there.

Still, it was good to see an exciting play like that in the passing game.

MONK_in_HOF

11-24-2008, 12:18 PM

Kelly did not position himself properly (a problem he had in college too) but that throw was off too. Then again, I'd rather have them try these plays and fail as opposed to not trying them at all. At least then they can get better at it and spread the field a bit in the interim.

I agree on all accounts, but especially the emboldened bit. It was really nice to see us get a PI call on a shot downfield.

skinsfan36

11-24-2008, 12:20 PM

i think we see this fade this week and it works this time. they tryed it it just needs corrected

skinsfan36

11-24-2008, 01:10 PM

zorn just praide kelly for his blocking(physical),said he had a good game. no mental errors,the fade was on zorn he said and he wants a play back in the red zone i think he meant to kelly.wants to keep getting him involved as he is a big target

dj_stouty

11-24-2008, 01:30 PM

It was encouraging to see Jason try and hook up with Kelly a few times with the fade. I could see that becoming a staple for future years to come; assuming Kelly gets over his injury bug.

And I agree with those who thought Jason threw the pass a tad out of bounds. It was a hair off, but I think the toss and the catch will get better with time as they get to know each other better.

JsMaViSd

11-24-2008, 01:38 PM

yea it looked like it was bad positioning by Kelly and a bad pass on Campbell. the ball sailed a little too far out.

OCSKINSFAN

11-24-2008, 02:26 PM

Is D Thomas the forgotten man? I still like his speed and YAC potential. He also is a big target.

Keino

11-24-2008, 02:29 PM

Is D Thomas the forgotten man? I still like his speed and YAC potential. He also is a big target.

I am so waiting for a 4 WR set that excludes James Thrash.

Speaking of which......Before the half we take a Hail Mary styled shot at the endzone. Can someone explain to me how we decided to take that shot with our least explosive WR? Did we think we were going to fool the 3 guys lined up on the Goal line at the start of the play?

JsMaViSd

11-24-2008, 02:35 PM

I am so waiting for a 4 WR set that excludes James Thrash.

Speaking of which......Before the half we take a Hail Mary styled shot at the endzone. Can someone explain to me how we decided to take that shot with our least explosive WR? Did we think we were going to fool the 3 guys lined up on the Goal line at the start of the play?

no idea, but Thrash was very close to catching that ball

Keino

11-24-2008, 02:36 PM

no idea, but Thrash was very close to catching that ball

Yea, imagine if we had put someone there capable of {A} Getting to the ball and {B} Who can catch in traffic....

skinsfan36

11-25-2008, 12:30 AM

Yea, imagine if we had put someone there capable of {A} Getting to the ball and {B} Who can catch in traffic....

thomas or kelly would of been ideal for that pass

shane88

11-25-2008, 08:09 AM

Yea, imagine if we had put someone there capable of {A} Getting to the ball and {B} Who can catch in traffic....

OMG!! Personally, I don't wanna see Thrash on the field unless it's ST or due to an injury. Love his heart, but he's just simply not a viable option anymore. Whenever I hear the announcers say "Thrash lined up wide left...", my stomach contents begin to gurgle up into the back of my throat. It's just not a good thing!

There's certainly a lot of potential there with Kelly, and Thomas as well, but Kelly seems to have a certain swagger to him....can't explain it, just seems to have that "it" factor. If he can rid himself of the injury bug, he could turn out to be very special.